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Jack Thurner
SPECTRE Ops
Utterly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.09.19 08:18:00 -
[61]
Tried it and got bored within a week or two... |
Elena Morin'staal
Minmatar
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.19 08:23:00 -
[62]
Would like to play it, them Elves in the trailer do look fun (or maybe I'm a sucker for chicks with pointed ears) but I can't see how its different to WoW, other than in style.
Its still going to be the same old mindless grinding that has put me off every MMO bar EvE, hell, the main thing that attracted me here was the training system rather than grinding.
Which gives me an idea - We need pointed ear chicks in EvE! Now, CCP :D
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Adrielle Firewalker
Minmatar
WASTELAND MINERS Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 09:28:00 -
[63]
 Originally by: Grath Telkin
The wow clone comments are the best, cause it's got elves in it right. Idiots.
I've been playing it for about a month (pre-order closed beta access), and it is, sad to say, pretty much like WoW.
However, it has added stuff that makes it worthwhile, such as zone control through your interactions in the world - both PVP and PVE. Its also taken on board titles and achievements that I saw in LotRO (which could have come from elsewhere as well, but that's the first place I really saw it properly).
I guess rather than being a totally new experience, or even a new take on an old one, WAR is more the evolution of a formula 
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~Adrielle
Original MinmatarT |
Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.19 09:32:00 -
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First impressions (this thread belongs to OOPE really):
- the crappy WAR website doesn't work properly with Firefox
- Servers are down ;-P
- choice of usernames/nicknames is very limited (no numbers?!)
... more when I am actually able to log in.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Y Berion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:00:00 -
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I wish someone just copy basics of Eve concept and put it in good old fantasy environment. I`d like to walk through some dark, open-ended, PvP/scam encouraging and skill based fantasy MMO. I hope Darkfall online will come to light since it looks very promising to me.
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AltBier
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:06:00 -
[66]
* Checks out Warhammer screenshots *
Erm, no, far too cartoonish for my taste. 
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mankirks Wife
Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 19/09/2008 00:53:03
Originally by: Sidrat Flush
WHY OH WHY does the industry stick with the Level 1-40, Class, Roles, Secondary Profession and this is the loot and equipment you'll get to use.
Two reasons that I can think of...
First is that.. well.. all those things pretty much define (normal) RPGs. It's expected, especially from fantasy games.
No. They define RPGs based on D&D / D20.
Now, I've not really been involved in pen and paper RPGs for about a decade, but to me the skill-based ones such as WFRP, Call of Cthulhu, Traveller and Cyberpunk 2020 all had far superior advancement mechanics to the restrictive levelling of D&D and its clones.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Donkey facemoo
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: AltBier
* Checks out Warhammer screenshots *
Erm, no, far too cartoonish for my taste.
Yup I love messing around with my camera angle to take nice screenshots for my desktop background when playing Eve. Although I played WoW for over three years and had fun doing so that style of gameplay and all the problems that come with it has its appeal. Rather than play Warhammer I'll probably just give WotLK a go and reactivate my druid who's on ice in my gulid.
Probably when I've got someone on long train.
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Troezar
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:26:00 -
[69]
Personally waiting for Darkfall, the pvp sounds much more Eve like than any other game so far...
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Kazang
Gallente
Arbitrary Freedom
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Posted - 2008.09.19 11:37:00 -
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Wont be taking a break from eve, but i will be playing WAR, got it today.
I can play WAR in between shooting people in my internet spaceship. Its not like eve needs 100% attention.
Kazang
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.19 12:22:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
No. They define RPGs based on D&D / D20.
To be fair, a good amount of RPGs used class/level systems without being D&D-based (Earthdawn, Rolemaster, MERP immediately come to mind). It also appears in some hidden or odd ways in other systems — Shadowrun had a fair bit of class/levellery snuck into it, for instance.
Of course, the main problem is that RPG systems that promote actual role play tend not to translate as well into computer games as MMTG (min-max twink game) systems such as D&D, which mainly center around maths.
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Dr Lmao
TANK.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 12:35:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mankirks Wife
Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 19/09/2008 00:53:03
Originally by: Sidrat Flush
WHY OH WHY does the industry stick with the Level 1-40, Class, Roles, Secondary Profession and this is the loot and equipment you'll get to use.
Two reasons that I can think of...
First is that.. well.. all those things pretty much define (normal) RPGs. It's expected, especially from fantasy games.
No. They define RPGs based on D&D / D20.
Now, I've not really been involved in pen and paper RPGs for about a decade, but to me the skill-based ones such as WFRP, Call of Cthulhu, Traveller and Cyberpunk 2020 all had far superior advancement mechanics to the restrictive levelling of D&D and its clones.
I always remember the Runequest rules system was good. It wasn't level based but instead used skills based on 100 with a use based advancement system e.g. if you used a skill and rolled a critical, the skill was flagged for advancement. You then rolled to see if your skill had advanced.
When a skill reached 100 it basically meant that you would always score at least a basic hit (unless you fumbled), but your chance of a special/critical hit was increased.
D&D always seemed like a very limited system compared to some of the more open ended/freeform rules systems.
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blown away
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Posted - 2008.09.19 13:02:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Ahem..
What he said :)
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RayBanJockey
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Posted - 2008.09.19 13:35:00 -
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I've seen this countless times over the years - a new game comes out and people start comparing it, regardless of what it is, to EVE.
EVE is better than WOW bacause of the pvp.
EVE is better than AoC and WAR because of the community.
EVE is better than Tetris Online because of the market system.
Just because two games are multiplayer doesn't mean they can be compared. I play EVE, WOW, AoC (lol tbh, but whatever) and now I'll play WAR a bit.
If I want to delve into fanatical and religious aspects I'll give jehova's a call, until then I'll enjoy these games for what they are.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.19 13:37:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Mordekai Bloodwake on 19/09/2008 13:37:44
Originally by: Krecian
I will be, but I won't be canceling Eve either. Eve is too unique to give up easily.
But yah, got my first taste of PvP in Warhammer and it brought back fond memories of DAOC... so I'm hooked already.
Same here! PvP in WAR is allot of fun, Eve PvP as become too much of a e-peen our group is bigger than yours ISK sink and not fun!
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.09.19 13:57:00 -
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If it's a life of consequence you're after then nothing comes close to EVE. WAR looks like it could be idle fun - not too serious but enough to entertain for short periods.
I'll probably give it a try - EVE is feeling a bit stale atm, with no new dev blogs and nothing concrete to look forward too.
I can impatiently wait for some of the proposed features to come along whilst playing EVE - or patiently await those features whilst playing WAR. It'll probably be the latter.
C.
Originally by: Tarminic
Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
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Elena Morin'staal
Minmatar
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.19 14:11:00 -
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Is the leveling system the same grind fashion? I'm not a fan of killing hundreds of giant rats all day just to gain an extra level.
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Vigilant
Gallente
Vigilant's Vigilante's
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Posted - 2008.09.19 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Elena Morin'staal
Is the leveling system the same grind fashion? I'm not a fan of killing hundreds of giant rats all day just to gain an extra level.
It can be and can not be. You can quest or pvp for exp. And levels. So far I am very impressed by it compared to cartoon
WOW.
But hell I am having fun playing Tabula Rasa too.
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Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2008.09.19 14:29:00 -
[79]
Just another hack and slash. No imagination. Been there, done that. 
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Broskies La'Poosie
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Posted - 2008.09.19 14:41:00 -
[80]
WTF is Warhammer?
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Balrokenx
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.19 14:57:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Ahem..
This is the only mmo i'm quitting eve for, all the "mainstream" crap is just a pve gay fest.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:04:00 -
[82]
there are MMO's other than eve ?
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BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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Traidor Disloyal
NightCrew
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:05:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
...A supposedly pvp-centric game. I'm just hoping it won't be pay to play beta like AoC.
I certainly am.
Go right ahead big guy. I learned my lesson with AoC. If War turns out to be a flop my one hope is that its forums are like the AoC forums. Last three weeks of my sub on AoC was the most fun I had in that game and I spent em all on the forums.
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:13:00 -
[84]
does Warhammer work in the IGB?
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:18:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Banana Torres
If you are into the Warhammer universe I am sure you will enjoy it. Like I enjoy even the crappiest of Star Trek Games, cause I'm a Trekkie.
Tbh if you are into the warhammer universe you despise it since its a total lore****.
The basic rule of the warhammer universe from a tabletop PoV is that most races wont ally unless forced and then normally only for a short period of time.
And while I dont play them the small fact that the darkelfs are allied to someone for more than a single battle(where they can either backstab midfight or wipe em out once victory is assured) is laughable in my eyes.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:23:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
You CAN kill anyone anywhere, if that is your choice, they have open RVR servers, kill anyone, anywhere, any time you want. Its a simple choice you make when making an alt.
Also, loading and instancing are very limited in this, as in, there are very few instanced dungeons, and yes, you can do instanced combat, but it pales in comparison to the non instanced combat. Think your 200 guys trying to get into my castle, and my 200 guys telling you no, complete with siege weaponry, and its non instanced.
A.. choice...? lol
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Shagrath Neptune
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:23:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Balrokenx
Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Ahem..
This is the only mmo i'm quitting eve for, all the "mainstream" crap is just a pve gay fest.
This game looks interesting. I actually like the graphics. They sort of remind me of Morrowind. It appears that whatever you attack bleeds too. 
500 spells and 500 abilities sounds like a balancing nightmare though.
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.19 15:42:00 -
[88]
Originally by: blown away
Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Ahem..
What he said :)
*cough* vaporware *cough*
*hack*
*choke*
*die*
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Neamus
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Posted - 2008.09.19 16:22:00 -
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Bleh, no. I'm staying right here, AoC made sure of that.
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.09.19 16:25:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Synapse Archae
So they added a little PVP to Wow and tried to resell it. Big deal. They didn't add half as much PVP as they should have. Market competition, industrial pvp, killing in towns, and player alliance wars are all notably missing.
Even if they added ALL the PVP that eve has to WoW, that still wouldnt make it half the game Eve is, because it will never have the scale that eve has, or the players. Or the skill system, or the diversity in fittings.
No, I'm staying right here.
Easy down, Easy down...
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