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Siberys Gallente Nebula Sharks	Posted - 2008.09.19 00:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Eve costs $15 per month. Get a job. QF fraking T
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.09.19 00:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Siberys Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Eve costs $15 per month. Get a job. QF fraking T Go kill yourself. It might free up a job for someone less fortunate than you. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Panzerkom Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.09.19 00:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Eve costs $15 per month. Get a job. And about $12 per month if one gets a 6-month sub.
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 01:17:00 - [34] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Tasuk Originally by: MotherMoon I just paid 400 mil for 2months of time I don't know what the hell your talking about, don't trade on the public forum keep it who you know. You mean you just screwed your friend out of 100 million ISK? Did you show him the WTB posts on forums for 500 mil and explain to him that he can sell it for 100 mil more than selling it to you for 400 mil? no that's jsut the demand within the circle, we don't care about the buy forums were not trying to starve each other to death. you still haven't answered my question - did you show the guy the WTB posts for 500 million ISK prior to buying form him? because you know he might not have known the real going price and using his lack of knowledge to screw him out of 100 mil is just so low ...
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 01:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/09/2008 00:22:11 You can't even get properly drunk for 15$, and EvE does win out a bit on price/entertainment value depends on what country you live in, remember that not everyone among your fellow EVE players is from USA or some other well-to-do place Originally by: Cpt Branko And if you need 6 accounts to enjoy EvE, then You're telling me that if you had the ISK and opportunities to get yourself top pvper characters of each race and each specialization and top industrial characters that this would not be fun for you? Not fun is logging into EVE and playing with the same old character for years, i mean, if you had the opportunities why would you limit yourself like that? It is like flying a Taranis into every single pvp encounter and stating that owning more ships is just
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 01:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Avon The price will be that which the market can sustain. If prices for GTCs are rising it is a good indication that ISK is becomming more easily available. No, rising GTC prices can also indicate that there is lack in supply so only the very rich are capable of buying them. This would not mean that ISK comes more easily to regular joe shmoe now.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.09.19 01:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Tasuk No, rising GTC prices can also indicate that there is lack in supply so only the very rich are capable of buying them. This would not mean that ISK comes more easily to regular joe shmoe now. Could also be a demand spike caused by any number of factors. More isk farmers can cause GTC prices to rise, as can more regular players resubscribing now that summer's over and they're staying in-doors more. Remember that we're just coming out of the annual summer lull. Pillowsoft - Join the Pillowsoft Gallente Militia, get free ships and support.
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.09.19 02:03:00 - [38] Linkage
v1nipper Caldari EtE Clan	Posted - 2008.09.19 02:11:00 - [39] shocking price lol [url=http://smash-alliance.com/kb/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=41517] [/url]
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.09.19 02:21:00 - [40] Confirming that current Whine of the Week is: GTC Prices. Which is fine, I think we're all worn out after "Highsec Risk/Reward" and "Proposed Nano Nerf" ---
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.09.19 07:48:00 - [41] Originally by: Mankirks Wife Confirming that current Whine of the Week is: GTC Prices. Which is fine, I think we're all worn out after "Highsec Risk/Reward" and "Proposed Nano Nerf" Buff hi sec so we can afford GTC's
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.19 07:55:00 - [42] Time for CCP to wrap it up for the gtc -> isk trade, this farce has gone on long enough. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Ralara Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.09.19 07:59:00 - [43] Edited by: Ralara on 19/09/2008 08:01:46 Originally by: Tasuk Edited by: Tasuk on 19/09/2008 01:17:23 Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Eve costs $15 per month. Get a job. a lot of people who fund EVE with game time codes are students and they work hardcore, only they use their money on things more important than EVE like, you know, student tuition and fees, books rent, food, transportation, etc. ... i have a choice of spending $15 on a game with virtual spaceships or spending that money on buying some extra food each month, I go with food most definitely Fine. So eat. But if you don't have the isk to play Eve for FREE then don't complain about it. Sheesh, you people act like it's some sort of god-given right to be able to play this game for free. It's not a right, it's a privilidge and if you can't afford to pay in game and you can't afford to pay out of game, then here's a clue for you: stop playing. Personally, I really dislike the idea of GTC for isk - CCP may sanction it and it's their game to do with as they please but it imbalances the economy; there's people out there who've spent $6,000 on GTC so they can buy a titan. And then they lost it. and that's funny but... still. The fact that people can do that is just... :( --
Furb Killer Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.09.19 08:03:00 - [44] Quote: You're telling me that if you had the ISK and opportunities to get yourself top pvper characters of each race and each specialization and top industrial characters that this would not be fun for you? So basicly you have everything, you can use everything, you got shitload of isk, and you have no clue what to do with it. Sounds truly fascinating. I am student, i just pay 35 dollars per 2 months. I just play with my single account with 1 character. Sure for exploration i would love having an alt to dual box, but i am not willing to pay more per month and i am not willing to grind half a billion every 2 months to pay for it, so i just keep it on 1 account. And guess what, i am enjoying eve alot...
quickshot89 Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.19 08:03:00 - [45] simple, everyone will only pay up to 500 mil, then the prices will come down
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.09.19 08:08:00 - [46] Edited by: Veldya on 19/09/2008 08:10:32 $15 isn't much for a game when you only play one account but some people run a fair few accounts and it is quite expensive to pay for all of them with cash. It is something for CCP to think about. I know a few people who have started to shelve surplus accounts and consolidate accounts and running fewer accounts. CCP profits equally if someone subscribes or funds their account via GTCs, because they are still the source of the subscription. Even if you utilised RTC the source of the subscription is still CCP. How you get the isk is pretty much irrelevant. The problem with high GTC prices is it will cut down the number of accounts. CCP would rather you buy 3 GTCs for your 1bil of isk than buying 2. High GTC prices will drive up how much isk farming you have to do in order to make it feasible to maintain your surplus accounts and that is going to result in fewer active accounts which hurts CCP's bottom line. High GTC prices means GTCs will be more competitive against RTCs and those who want an isk injection do not have to delve into the real black market, however, that scenario is good for GTC sellers but poor for CCP and RTCs.
Strill	Posted - 2008.09.19 08:19:00 - [47] I just checked and there were several threads with people selling lumps of GTCs for 425k. It looks to me like the prices are going down.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.09.19 08:21:00 - [48] Originally by: simon perry have your say why you think this is happening... is the credit crunch affecting eve too :P add in an out of control farmer population, and stupid amounts of isk in the eve economy, and I wouldn't be surprised to see gtcs going for 1 billion soon. hell as soon as I saw 60d/400mil I said ** it I'm not buying gtcs for isk anymore. and I can get gtcs for cheaper, 300something mil for a 60, was a fan**ingtastic price for a 90day. heh and shit, I have more money now than in just about any point since starting eve.
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.19 09:07:00 - [49] Originally by: Tasuk Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/09/2008 00:22:11 You can't even get properly drunk for 15$, and EvE does win out a bit on price/entertainment value depends on what country you live in, remember that not everyone among your fellow EVE players is from USA or some other well-to-do place Originally by: Cpt Branko And if you need 6 accounts to enjoy EvE, then You're telling me that if you had the ISK and opportunities to get yourself top pvper characters of each race and each specialization and top industrial characters that this would not be fun for you? Not fun is logging into EVE and playing with the same old character for years, i mean, if you had the opportunities why would you limit yourself like that? It is like flying a Taranis into every single pvp encounter and stating that owning more ships is just Speak for yourself. For me, EvE = Malcanis; Malcanis = EvE. If I were to log in this evenng and find on my account Mal gone and some 60M SP character in his place, that would completely kill the game for me.
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 09:10:00 - [50] Originally by: Ralara Fine. So eat. But if you don't have the isk to play Eve for FREE then don't complain about it. Sheesh, you people act like it's some sort of god-given right to be able to play this game for free. It's not a right, it's a privilidge and if you can't afford to pay in game and you can't afford to pay out of game, then here's a clue for you: stop playing. Go mine up some free minerals about it since your time has no value to you. Mine time to me has value, which is not necessarily an money value. For example the time a student keeps playing he or she can spend studying and getting better grades. That study time is traded for time spent online earning ISK, so better grades are traded for subscription. Why people think that this is inferior form of payment to them spending 9-5 on their boring job and then paying with a credit card is beyond me. I guess they are so focused on their money that this is the only thing that has retained any value in their minds. As for privilege vs right, CCP are not bestowing it as some kind of benevolent gesture upon the playerbase that you are implying this is. They allowed GTC trade for practical reasons and as long as it is allowed it is in my right to buy GTCs with ISK. Now get your credit card, go and sell me some!
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 09:17:00 - [51] Originally by: Furb Killer So basicly you have everything, you can use everything, you got shitload of isk, and you have no clue what to do with it. Sounds truly fascinating. I am student, i just pay 35 dollars per 2 months. I just play with my single account with 1 character. Sure for exploration i would love having an alt to dual box, but i am not willing to pay more per month and i am not willing to grind half a billion every 2 months to pay for it, so i just keep it on 1 account. And guess what, i am enjoying eve alot... What gave you that idea? I always put my ISK to good use: having fun playing the game I love the way I want to play it and at the same time not spending those $35 you have to spend on it. Some people are ok sticking to a single character for 5+ years. I need constant change and have means to get it too. Someone comes to the thread judging me and implying that it is to like variety and my reaction is why not and basically just lolz.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.09.19 09:29:00 - [52] Edited by: Pan Crastus on 19/09/2008 09:29:48 Originally by: Avon The price will be that which the market can sustain. If prices for GTCs are rising it is a good indication that ISK is becomming more easily available. If I were CCP, I would buy some of these GTCs back myself (would cost me nothing) ... 5 Reasons: - It lets me control the lower bound for GTC=>ISK prices - It forces normal players who live off ISK to play more (= decline in logged in users not showing) - It hurts the ISK farmers because they need to spend a bigger part of their ISK on GTCs since prices are going up - I could claim to have sold more GTCs and thus have more accounts than I actually do ... - I'd effectively be selling (my infinite) ISK for real money, which is what I was planning all along but don't want the player base to know How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Tasuk	Posted - 2008.09.19 09:48:00 - [53] Originally by: Malcanis Speak for yourself. For me, EvE = Malcanis; Malcanis = EvE. If I were to log in this evenng and find on my account Mal gone and some 60M SP character in his place, that would completely kill the game for me. I do not associate with my characters to any significant extent. I used to, when I was raising my very first character which was my main. Those times I treated the game way too seriously, since EVE was my first MMO experience and i got addicted to it and played hardcore with my main character which was the only one I owned. I was running a pvp corporation and internet spaceships were very serious business to me. But as my addiction wore off and i got to know the MMO world better and seen all of its imperfections I could no longer treat it seriously, no longer dedicate myself to eve, and of course i stopped associating myself with my character. Eventually I found myself doing more and more role playing rather than playing as myself. I sold my first char and over time accumulated many others all of which I like for one reason or another. It is a different style of playing the same MMO game. Most people have a single character which is their main - but there is a minority of us out there who play EVE differently. As hard as it is for them to understand why variety of characters can be fun, it is equally difficult for me to understand how they can stick to same old character for years and years.
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.09.19 10:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Strill I just checked and there were several threads with people selling lumps of GTCs for 425k. It looks to me like the prices are going down. Shush you, the world is ending, ending etc.....
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.19 10:07:00 - [55] Originally by: Tasuk Originally by: Malcanis Speak for yourself. For me, EvE = Malcanis; Malcanis = EvE. If I were to log in this evenng and find on my account Mal gone and some 60M SP character in his place, that would completely kill the game for me. I do not associate with my characters to any significant extent. I used to, when I was raising my very first character which was my main. Those times I treated the game way too seriously, since EVE was my first MMO experience and i got addicted to it and played hardcore with my main character which was the only one I owned. I was running a pvp corporation and internet spaceships were very serious business to me. But as my addiction wore off and i got to know the MMO world better and seen all of its imperfections I could no longer treat it seriously, no longer dedicate myself to eve, and of course i stopped associating myself with my character. Eventually I found myself doing more and more role playing rather than playing as myself. I sold my first char and over time accumulated many others all of which I like for one reason or another. It is a different style of playing the same MMO game. Most people have a single character which is their main - but there is a minority of us out there who play EVE differently. As hard as it is for them to understand why variety of characters can be fun, it is equally difficult for me to understand how they can stick to same old character for years and years. I guess the satisfaction of developing my skills, assets & for want of a better word, my history. if you've evolved past that phase of play then, well, I dunno... I'd almost certainly just stop playing, while you found a way to maintain your interest. I'm not judging you or anything. Good for you, I guess. Side note: For similar reasons, I don't alt-post on the forum. It's not so much that I think it's 'wrong', I just think it's a waste of time. Why would I spend time making a post and not get the credit for it. That's like turning up at work and not getting paid. Incidentally, for all the inverse love I get on these forums, I have never once (at least to my knowledge) suffered in game from any post I've made. I think people who use thaat excuse are pretty much admitting that they're worthless trolls who deserve to suffer in-game for what they post.
Opertone Caldari SIEGE. The Border Patrol	Posted - 2008.09.19 10:11:00 - [56] ISK is worthless in fact, more people learnt to make isk, fewer people need start up cash, it's logical and quite alright to me.
Ralara Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.09.19 12:06:00 - [57] Edited by: Ralara on 19/09/2008 12:14:17 Edited by: Ralara on 19/09/2008 12:11:43 Originally by: Tasuk Go mine up some free minerals about it since your time has no value to you. Mine time to me has value, which is not necessarily a monetary value. For example the time a student keeps playing he or she can spend studying and getting better grades. That study time is traded for time spent online earning ISK, so better grades are traded for subscription. Why people think that this is inferior form of payment to them spending 9-5 on their boring job and then paying with a credit card is beyond me. I guess they are so focused on their money that this is the only thing that has retained any value in their minds. As for privilege vs right, CCP are not bestowing it as some kind of benevolent gesture upon the playerbase that you are implying this is. They allowed GTC trade for practical reasons and as long as it is allowed it is in my right to buy GTCs with ISK. Now get your credit card, go and sell me some! You didn't comprehend my post; it's not a right to buy via GTC because you need to have the ISK to do this - you have no "right" to any amount of isk - so... therefore no "right" to play for free. As for personal time and all that cobblers; I'm not getting into a pseudo debate with you. The fact of the matter is, if you are unwilling or unable to pay for Eve with real-life cash (i.e. you're buying GTC with ISK) then that's up to you; but since the price is set only by players and not CCP, you can't complain about the prices being high - you can whinge about it, sure, but you can't complain - to complain means to make a complaint but you have no one to make the complaint to. If you complain to the GTC sellers they're just going to laugh at you and sell to someone who will pay 650m isk or whatever daft price people are willing to pay. You can't complain to CCP because they don't set the prices and never will. As for me selling GTC; I have a few strange morals regarding this game but I will never, ever use RL money to make ISK in game - it's game breaking and unfair to others. It breaks the economy and gives an advantage to those IRL who can afford it. I sincerely hope that the prices increase to stupid levels - hitting over a billion for a GTC or something. I'm going to laugh, then, when that happens; people will end up spending all their play time just to afford a GTC so they can play... to make isk to allow them to play. It'll spiral upwards and there'll be tears and people will quit. And the game will be better off for it. EDIT: You're never going to agree with me, of couse, I realise that. You are one of the parasites of which I speak, so you can retort all ya like - you are what you are. --
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.09.19 12:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 19/09/2008 12:14:17 Edited by: Ralara on 19/09/2008 12:11:43 Originally by: Tasuk Go mine up some free minerals about it since your time has no value to you. Mine time to me has value, which is not necessarily a monetary value. For example the time a student keeps playing he or she can spend studying and getting better grades. That study time is traded for time spent online earning ISK, so better grades are traded for subscription. Why people think that this is inferior form of payment to them spending 9-5 on their boring job and then paying with a credit card is beyond me. I guess they are so focused on their money that this is the only thing that has retained any value in their minds. As for privilege vs right, CCP are not bestowing it as some kind of benevolent gesture upon the playerbase that you are implying this is. They allowed GTC trade for practical reasons and as long as it is allowed it is in my right to buy GTCs with ISK. Now get your credit card, go and sell me some! You didn't comprehend my post; it's not a right to buy via GTC because you need to have the ISK to do this - you have no "right" to any amount of isk - so... therefore no "right" to play for free. As for personal time and all that cobblers; I'm not getting into a pseudo debate with you. The fact of the matter is, if you are unwilling or unable to pay for Eve with real-life cash (i.e. you're buying GTC with ISK) then that's up to you; but since the price is set only by players and not CCP, you can't complain about the prices being high - you can whinge about it, sure, but you can't complain - to complain means to make a complaint but you have no one to make the complaint to. If you complain to the GTC sellers they're just going to laugh at you and sell to someone who will pay 650m isk or whatever daft price people are willing to pay. You can't complain to CCP because they don't set the prices and never will. As for me selling GTC; I have a few strange morals regarding this game but I will never, ever use RL money to make ISK in game - it's game breaking and unfair to others. It breaks the economy and gives an advantage to those IRL who can afford it. I sincerely hope that the prices increase to stupid levels - hitting over a billion for a GTC or something. I'm going to laugh, then, when that happens; people will end up spending all their play time just to afford a GTC so they can play... to make isk to allow them to play. It'll spiral upwards and there'll be tears and people will quit. And the game will be better off for it. EDIT: You're never going to agree with me, of couse, I realise that. You are one of the parasites of which I speak, so you can retort all ya like - you are what you are. .....What you get when you cross a highhorse on stilts standing atop a soapbox. Do i seriously need to post the definition of the word "parasite" in this thread as well??? For a second there i thought it was "A Spy" posting.
Kyle Klanen	Posted - 2008.09.19 12:52:00 - [59] Tbqfh people with 6 accounts shouldn't really be worrying about GTC prices because they have a problem and they should be seeking help.
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.19 12:54:00 - [60] whiend about ganking now you got effect of it. no isk sinks hyper gtc prices. And you wil lsee too decrtese in ships/modules prices too.

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