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Hareka Darine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:29:00 -
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Kerensky White
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:29:00 -
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What's more dangerous than thousands of angry, motivated goons. |
Leykan
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:29:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool. In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. In recent months in the UK in paticular the profile of cyber offences, cyber bullying, trolling has been very much in the public eye. Cases of teenage suicides after a message on a social networking site like this example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-14239702 made national headlines. EU law protects people from offensive behaviour on the internet and does not allow the anononymity of the web protect offendors when the use the internet as a medium to bully or spread hate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-16144640 people have been given sentences lasting into years for offences carried out in the internet. Perhaps the timing of this incident was most ill fated for Alexander, In the last month we have had a high profile case of a celebrity being targetted by a cyber bully and anti social behavior on the internet has been on the news and on prime time TV and questions have been asked in paliament. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17399027 . Even worse timing wise is the very high profile case of a student jailed for a drunken abusive rant on twitter about a seriously ill footballer that aroused comdemnation from all quarters. The student was jailed in the last week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17434587I sympathise with americans who assume protection from the first ammendment gives you the right to say what you want be as offensive as you want on the internet press whatever. This is not the case in the rest of the world and certainly not in Europe and Alexander maybe forgot that in Iceland. Perhaps those members of the CSM who have objected to this decision need to consider this issue and see the wider impolications of this act and also the different international interpretatinos of both what is legal and what is decent and acceptable. Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to.
Iceland's not a part of the EU. Your move. |
KillLoco
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:29:00 -
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Anvil44 wrote:As our society changes and learns to cope with online bullying such as this, it is good to see CCP taking it seriously. If anyone thinks they went too far, also consider that not only was the Eve character name of the offender used by CCP but, in joining the CSM he was using his real life name and speaking as someone who is associated with CCP. As such, he must answer to his actions, including in however CCP feels is the best way to deal with this type of situation.
If this were 'real' life, the actual person could be charged, depending on which country you are on. Think about having someone commit a real-life crime being associated with your product while committing that crime.
I really think a 30 day ban is weak but in the offenders defense, he did make a formal apology, which is a step in the right direction.
He's out, let it go and lets learn from this. As so many have said, CCP made a proper decision.
Oh back to reading the Daily Mail.
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:29:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool. In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. In recent months in the UK in paticular the profile of cyber offences, cyber bullying, trolling has been very much in the public eye. Cases of teenage suicides after a message on a social networking site like this example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-14239702 made national headlines. EU law protects people from offensive behaviour on the internet and does not allow the anononymity of the web protect offendors when the use the internet as a medium to bully or spread hate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-16144640 people have been given sentences lasting into years for offences carried out in the internet. Perhaps the timing of this incident was most ill fated for Alexander, In the last month we have had a high profile case of a celebrity being targetted by a cyber bully and anti social behavior on the internet has been on the news and on prime time TV and questions have been asked in paliament. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17399027 . Even worse timing wise is the very high profile case of a student jailed for a drunken abusive rant on twitter about a seriously ill footballer that aroused comdemnation from all quarters. The student was jailed in the last week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17434587I sympathise with americans who assume protection from the first ammendment gives you the right to say what you want be as offensive as you want on the internet press whatever. This is not the case in the rest of the world and certainly not in Europe and Alexander maybe forgot that in Iceland. Perhaps those members of the CSM who have objected to this decision need to consider this issue and see the wider impolications of this act and also the different international interpretatinos of both what is legal and what is decent and acceptable. Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to.
What you say makes sense.
It's just a sad day when political correctness comes to eve.
In the past, CCP always had the courage to go against the grain.
(I have an inbox full of similar fanmails, and they always made me laff.) Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |
Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:30:00 -
[336] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/0rsuC.jpg |
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:30:00 -
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I for one, welcome CCP newly found backbone. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:10,058 paying customers totally ignored and disenfranchised. Good work, CCP.
U mad? |
Rebnok
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
11
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:30:00 -
[339] - Quote
10,058 idiots lol |
Jonathan Malcom
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
74
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/0rsuC.jpg |
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Aelder
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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CCP, what happened to HTFU?
This is a vast overreaction and CCP should be ashamed. |
Stephen Haags
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council.
This! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3736
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
[343] - Quote
John Maynard Keynes wrote:Andski wrote:10,058 paying customers totally ignored and disenfranchised. Good work, CCP. U mad?
oh look another worthless npc alt "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
SPAECMARNIES
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Kerensky White wrote:What's more dangerous than thousands of angry, motivated goons.
10058 angry, motivated goons.
fakesnipe |
Tango Zulu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Abyss Azizora wrote:First time in years I've heard such WONDERFUL news on the eve forum. I think I'll do a little dance.
On a sidenote, I really don't care about what happened, I see that as "normal" in eve honestly nowadays. But if that thing got a goon rear end firmly parted by a boot on his way out the door... Then it's a freaking celebration to me. Where's a party emoticon when you need it?
Case in point. |
Ni Cho
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council.
I am just quoting this because it is a supremely valid point, and it needs to be repeated.
Endlessly
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John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:32:00 -
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Rick Maken wrote:Storm in a tea cup, not a day goes by when I don't hear the words kill yourself in University or online.
Sperging publords making a massive shitstorm over literally nothing have ruined the CSM, and potentially ruined the game.
Literally a few people have managed to kick up enough **** to get a bunch of idiots bandwagoning.
Thanks guys.
Yeah, Mittani and Test CEO managed to do exactly that for the last 12 months or so... |
Intigo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:32:00 -
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Revii Lagoon wrote:http://i.imgur.com/0rsuC.jpg
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(you misspelled virginity, though) |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:32:00 -
[349] - Quote
Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool. In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. In recent months in the UK in paticular the profile of cyber offences, cyber bullying, trolling has been very much in the public eye. Cases of teenage suicides after a message on a social networking site like this example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-14239702 made national headlines. EU law protects people from offensive behaviour on the internet and does not allow the anononymity of the web protect offendors when the use the internet as a medium to bully or spread hate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-16144640 people have been given sentences lasting into years for offences carried out in the internet. Perhaps the timing of this incident was most ill fated for Alexander, In the last month we have had a high profile case of a celebrity being targetted by a cyber bully and anti social behavior on the internet has been on the news and on prime time TV and questions have been asked in paliament. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17399027 . Even worse timing wise is the very high profile case of a student jailed for a drunken abusive rant on twitter about a seriously ill footballer that aroused comdemnation from all quarters. The student was jailed in the last week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17434587I sympathise with americans who assume protection from the first ammendment gives you the right to say what you want be as offensive as you want on the internet press whatever. This is not the case in the rest of the world and certainly not in Europe and Alexander maybe forgot that in Iceland. Perhaps those members of the CSM who have objected to this decision need to consider this issue and see the wider impolications of this act and also the different international interpretatinos of both what is legal and what is decent and acceptable. Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to.
As another European I can freely call you fascist dog. Europe has benefits but fascist **** laws for censorship of speech are not it. At the same time as you have to ***** foot around serious issues we all get butt raped by our dear politicians but hey they are at least preventing us to say thing they don't like. This is one thing where europe should take after US instead of introducing just more and more idiotic censorship laws. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
476
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:33:00 -
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I understand the player broke the rules and was banned for it.
But seriously CCP, you realise you're punishing the rest of us by replacing him with the Riverini right? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
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Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
2
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:33:00 -
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Total overreaction on all sides.
The only person reacting appropriately (by not reacting) is The Wis himself, the noble miner "victim" whose opinion does not appear to have been consulted.
People always tell each other to kill themselves in online games. It comes with the territory and anyone who takes it seriously is a douche. That it happened in public doesn't make it worse or different.
If you can't take a joke, **** you. |
k'ryn
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
11
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:33:00 -
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Kerensky White wrote:What's more dangerous than thousands of angry, motivated goons.
nothing. |
Vinny Grinn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:34:00 -
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Ni Cho wrote:Andski wrote:Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council. I am just quoting this because it is a supremely valid point, and it needs to be repeated. Endlessly
Not empty quoting. |
May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:34:00 -
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The "funny" (sad, actually) things about raging of 10k people is that: - these players have certainly lots of alts, - the accounts are probably paid by PLEX therefore don't have any actual money value for a big bunch of them, - the people tend to easily forget that CSM members are representatives, therefore are less tolerated of commiting errors
/rant
Now I perfectly aggree that it is a bad news and his value in CSM was very great, that makes everyone in a very unpleasant mess. But we should also consider that CCP had no choice but enforce rules like these, and I'm pretty sure they are aware of the consequences (wouldn't surprise me that we forecome emergency meeting and other not-dev blogs).
I also aggree to the analysis that since fanfest players are being watched on, this is both good and BAD. Realtime streaming sucks. Please don't do realtime diffusions when you can't face the consequences, CCP ! |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
61
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:34:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool.
In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. :words:
Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to. 1- You're a political tool 2- Please explain how remarks made live via microphone can by CYBER bullying? 3- Does the EU Have laws against bullying? Are they EU Wide 4- I take back #1 you're just a tool. |
Dirk Culliford
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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All aboard the fail train, destination unknown! |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
81
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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Bullshit. The CSM is not space democracy: it is a customer advocacy group. CCP decided--wisely--that due to its disparate customer base the best way to have a representative sample of their customers was to: get a representative sample of their customers.
I used my vote not for political purposes, but as a business transaction: The Mittani was going to make my $15/month go further than anyone else (only Seleene would come close).
My problem is that, as a customer, CCP promised me a voice in their customer advocacy group. Now they are taking this away.
EULA breach is a bullshit argument. The EULA covers the use of the software, not attendance at a customer function. CCP would be well within their rights to say "We think this person has alienated a large enough portion of our customer base that we do not believe he will provide a good interface with our customers." Instead they go with some weasely bullshit about EULA breaches.
What's next? I'm on Teamspeak and trash talk some alliance mate. Is CCP liable? Absolutely not. (If I did it on EVE Voice, that would be different).
I'd have more respect for CCP if they manned up and said "We think Alex is bad for business, and we're running a business." Instead they want to play Space Lawyers and Space Democracy.
WTF |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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May O'Neez wrote:The "funny" (sad, actually) things about raging of 10k people is that: - these players have certainly lots of alts, - the accounts are probably paid by PLEX therefore don't have any actual money value for a big bunch of them, - the people tend to easily forget that CSM members are representatives, therefore are less tolerated of commiting errors
/rant
Now I perfectly aggree that it is a bad news and his value in CSM was very great, that makes everyone in a very unpleasant mess. But we should also consider that CCP had no choice but enforce rules like these, and I'm pretty sure they are aware of the consequences (wouldn't surprise me that we forecome emergency meeting and other not-dev blogs).
I also aggree to the analysis that since fanfest players are being watched on, this is both good and BAD. Realtime streaming sucks. Please don't do realtime diffusions when you can't face the consequences, CCP ! Hey Moron, Plex doesn't appear out of nowhere, someone, somewhere pays for it. |
Oliver Duncan
Kick B0rt Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council. |
Temulkar Blaine
Liberation Army BricK sQuAD.
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:35:00 -
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Leykan wrote:Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool. In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. In recent months in the UK in paticular the profile of cyber offences, cyber bullying, trolling has been very much in the public eye. Cases of teenage suicides after a message on a social networking site like this example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-14239702 made national headlines. EU law protects people from offensive behaviour on the internet and does not allow the anononymity of the web protect offendors when the use the internet as a medium to bully or spread hate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-16144640 people have been given sentences lasting into years for offences carried out in the internet. Perhaps the timing of this incident was most ill fated for Alexander, In the last month we have had a high profile case of a celebrity being targetted by a cyber bully and anti social behavior on the internet has been on the news and on prime time TV and questions have been asked in paliament. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17399027 . Even worse timing wise is the very high profile case of a student jailed for a drunken abusive rant on twitter about a seriously ill footballer that aroused comdemnation from all quarters. The student was jailed in the last week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17434587I sympathise with americans who assume protection from the first ammendment gives you the right to say what you want be as offensive as you want on the internet press whatever. This is not the case in the rest of the world and certainly not in Europe and Alexander maybe forgot that in Iceland. Perhaps those members of the CSM who have objected to this decision need to consider this issue and see the wider impolications of this act and also the different international interpretatinos of both what is legal and what is decent and acceptable. Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to. Iceland's not a part of the EU. Your move.
No its not part of the EU yet, Its going though the process of joining the EU since its application was accepted provisionally a couple of years ago. That proccess has involved bringing the Icelandic legal system in line with the rest of Europe. Its judiciary and fundemental rights of the individual have been brought in line with European law. |
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