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greenhornet
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:30:00 -
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The idea that some dev had to make the game more for the nubs is the same mistake alot of other online games have done.The idea that it is possable for 2 cruisers to take down a bs is moronic and now impossible to hit frigates and cruisers not only is everyone gunna jump into smaller ships the games economy is gunna be even more messed up than it was before ,why would anyone want a bs if they are screwed and can't hit anything?thanks devs from all the long term players..It was a good game till ya started worring bout the nubs.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:43:00 -
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/Begins to serve cheese.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:49:00 -
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 Originally by: greenhornet
The idea that some dev had to make the game more for the nubs is the same mistake alot of other online games have done.The idea that it is possable for 2 cruisers to take down a bs is moronic and now impossible to hit frigates and cruisers not only is everyone gunna jump into smaller ships the games economy is gunna be even more messed up than it was before ,why would anyone want a bs if they are screwed and can't hit anything?thanks devs from all the long term players..It was a good game till ya started worring bout the nubs.
I guess I thought I was a long term player but as you have said a thanks for the supposed BS nerfs which I see no big issue with except maybe a little more thought than 'fit the biggest turrets I can and I will own all!'
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:01:00 -
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Let me ask you something...
Should a US NAVY battleship be able to hit a jet-engine powered racing boat doing doughnuts aroud it's hull with it's 16" guns???
I think not!
Should it be able to hit this target at 1000 yards? Maybe, with a lucky shot...
Could guys on deck destroy this boat with hand held machines guns. probably, better chance than with the 16" batteries...
You BS guys have had it too good for too long, now that CCP is making changes that make sense, you whine about it.
If you are going into a battle where you think there will be smaller ships, have some of your buddy BS pilots mount some armorment appropriate for the task at hand. You want to be able to hit frigates & cruisers at close range? Have a BS mount some small & med fast tracking weaps...
I don't believe CCP intended for frigates to be one shot kills for a BS with it's slow moving long range BS to BS guns...
Get over it...
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greenhornet
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Let me ask you something...
Should a US NAVY battleship be able to hit a jet-engine powered racing boat doing doughnuts aroud it's hull with it's 16" guns???
I think not!
Should it be able to hit this target at 1000 yards? Maybe, with a lucky shot...
Could guys on deck destroy this boat with hand held machines guns. probably, better chance than with the 16" batteries...
You BS guys have had it too good for too long, now that CCP is making changes that make sense, you whine about it.
If you are going into a battle where you think there will be smaller ships, have some of your buddy BS pilots mount some armorment appropriate for the task at hand. You want to be able to hit frigates & cruisers at close range? Have a BS mount some small & med fast tracking weaps...
I don't believe CCP intended for frigates to be one shot kills for a BS with it's slow moving long range BS to BS guns...
Get over it...
I am pretty sure spaceships should b alittle bit more advanced than speedboats just a wee bit and should be able to defend themselves against tiny little frigates.and even with med guns frigates are very hard to kill.Frigates are cheap and should not be so hard to kill unless that is all u espire to drive.And cruisers in optimal are even very hard to kill so we should just get rid of the bs?So a bs should be defenceless against smaller ships?So u don't fly a bs,nub.Ya I would love a patch that made me equil to every player in the game if it was my 2nd day too..
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Gher
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:16:00 -
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Actually He's right on the mark with these changes, its been far to easy to kill ships forever. I can now fly my interceptors and frigs like they were meant to be used withoutfear of lucky BS shots or stupid cruise launching frigs.
If you whinners can't figure out new setups because your too lazy then just go put all your stuff in a can and pop it then pod yourself. Geez I hate all the whinners that play this game. Think how dumb you sound calling people no0bs cause your upset that you can't kill them anymore |
Gher
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gher on 18/06/2004 16:19:08
Oh and Green if you can't figure out how to refit your BS, then I would like to point you out as nub since it only took me 1 night of testing to refit my BS's. |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:20:00 -
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"So a bs should be defenceless against smaller ships?"
What's the matter, your BS turret slots don't accept small guns?
What don't you understand? How many times have you been cloned? Maybe you should pay for a better clonejob, and not just the re-treading? huh?
And yeah, I have been playing since the 2nd day, the 2nd day of release of the game...
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:21:00 -
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Gher, you really need to petition that name mate and get the r changed for a y 
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greenhornet
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gher
Edited by: Gher on 18/06/2004 16:19:08
Oh and Green if you can't figure out how to refit your BS, then I would like to point you out as nub since it only took me 1 night of testing to refit my BS's.
I mostly fight npc spawn and having alot of trouble with the cruisers,infact had 3 cruiser 1 bs spawn killed the bs fast and cruisers were in optimal and didn;t even get 1 cruisers sheilds down firing 2 missle launchers and 4 protos 2 compressed kinda sad even in optimal can't shoot a cruiser.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:24:00 -
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reffering to the topic, this game is far from done 
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greenhornet
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi
reffering to the topic, this game is far from done
Is that why 70 % of the original players have sold there accounts on ebay?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:31:00 -
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CCP's problem is that they have spent too much time balancing and tweaking features instead of introducing long lasting content.
This makes it appear as if we older players are being ignored while frigates are being made uber for the new guys.
Can't help but get cynical sometimes.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:37:00 -
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"Bhaal, with current algorithms it's easier to hit a magpie at 60km with those 16'' guns than a cruiser at 24km"
No where did I say CCP actually implamented the changes correctly, since when have they done that?
I do understand and like the principle however...
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:37:00 -
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/me fully agrees with josh
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 18/06/2004 16:46:10
oh god, don`t u even have a slight bit of humor left greenhornet? sheesh
and if u feel like 70% have left and it`s over, maybe it`s time for u to leave without all this crap about "this game is done" or make atleast abit more constructive post without a stupid topic like this heh
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:44:00 -
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Could we please have a REPLY on that, WHY it's is easier to hit a frigate/magpie at 60km with large gun/16'' than it is to hit a cruiser at 24km?
Edited -Zhuge Liang
Like my one and only sig says then...
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Abisha
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:57:00 -
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hmm you miss the point :P a BATTLESHIP => like in Real live turn a flying Object at a speed of 800 KM/H to ash in secs also missles why its called a Railguns :P PS where are they for ower Own Battles ships in year XXXX for my BATTLESHIP THEN i will call it Close range weapons like Blaster's Pulse Beams Autocannons but they cant even not hit a cruiser going 50 meter's a sec :P
so i think i made a GOOD point here
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:03:00 -
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Quote:
Is that why 70 % of the original players have sold there accounts on ebay?
70% would mean more than 27,000 accounts being sold on E-Bay, while the actual number is somewhere closer to 200.
EVE is not UO. Owning the biggest, baddest piece of hardware in known universe will not guarantee your survival. And because EVE is also tactical PvP, different ship classes serve different roles, and therefor the smaller ships have to be effective.
Plz go end yourself, like the quaint little korean said.
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Gangsta Boo
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:04:00 -
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Throw on a smartbomb, uses some smaller guns, use some drones, use some missles, have corp buddies ready to fight frigs. You can't just throw on a bunch of 1400mms and wipe out everything in existance anymore. CCP wanted to make the other ships in the game more useful so the BS is not the answer to all combat question. They succeeded. Heaven forbib you have to put some thought into fitting your ship now.
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OrbitalEffect
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: greenhornet
thanks devs from all the long term players..It was a good game till ya started worring bout the nubs.
Hey buddy,
Don't presume to "thank" the devs on my behalf until you've asked for my opinion. Things have changed in the game - adapt and have fun, or leave.
Your post is asinine and pointless.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:16:00 -
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I think we should all cease complaining about anything to do with the performance of guns until the Dev's have looked into the details.
They are aware that the poor performance is related to range not tracking.
Wait until the MWD changes come into effect which make frigates/cruisers get a vastly increased sig. radius. Then we'll see the tracking changes come into effect properly.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:18:00 -
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Ok you moany bunch...
1400s and all other large guns suffering from the accuracy loss are going to get mod'd by the devs to make them useable again...
as for 2 cruisers taking on a battleship, then id really like to meet the Battleship pilot, he must be such a nub to loose to two cruisers with HEAVY MISSILES.
Finnaly, the update has brought MUCH MORE things for older players to do such a hunt the Commanders of certain pirate factions... spawn Battleships, fight eachother and so on, the battles that are to come with this update are going to last longer than any we have seen and should hold some interesting developments...
Aneu
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:18:00 -
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I honestly think this post should me locked though, could we have a lockthread please?
It's about quitting anyway, help us out Orestes please  in before lock btw :)
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:20:00 -
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"ream, gangsta = nubs"
You've definitely had your clone dropped on it's head quite a few times if that is all you can ever come up with to support your side of the argument...
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:22:00 -
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Josh, THAT change is in (the MWD-sig radius 500%)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Josh, THAT change is in (the MWD-sig radius 500%)
Are you sure?
NPC Interceptors aren't any easier to hit regardless of whether they are mwd'ing or not.
It seems to me that the disadvantage of using the MWD is 100% cancelled out because your speed negates 100% any tracking boost your enemy gets.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:35:00 -
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"what proof you want that the guns are cak atm bhaal, what do you think the people who have a clue about what's going on are talking about eh? *******s to ya!"
Most likely, the people who actually have a clue are in game playing with their new loadouts enjoying the killing, not in here whining
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Josh, THAT change is in (the MWD-sig radius 500%)
Are you sure?
NPC Interceptors aren't any easier to hit regardless of whether they are mwd'ing or not.
It seems to me that the disadvantage of using the MWD is 100% cancelled out because your speed negates 100% any tracking boost your enemy gets.
The numbers show it, but the tracking does'nt. I advice a webber, blasters or autocannons, no orbit and a prayer to CCP
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.18 17:45:00 -
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I am out killin stuff still, but i would like my guns to work too, and tbh i'm only on the forums lately coz my ship has been lost to the trade bug and i need it back to go out flying with it !!!! so 
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