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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:02:00 -
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Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. |

Ceptia Cyna
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:05:00 -
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Please cry me a river. You set your money on the wrong horse... what a pitty.
You wanted a sandbox, you got the best of all. Real Life.
http://h11.abload.de/img/looselipsmittani2cpkr6.png |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:06:00 -
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Thank you for your support in these trying times, fair Ceptia. Don't worry, my crusade for your voice will go unabated unless I am silenced as well. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
576
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:07:00 -
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should have voted for -a- |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
206
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:09:00 -
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Nice Alt.
Perhaps something in a tissue?
My EVE YouTube Channel |

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
66
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:09:00 -
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OP - sorry dude, The Mittani resigned of his own volition. He stated he would and followed through.
That's how democracy works, if a winning candidate (for any reason) can not serve, there is no revote.
You should take pride in the fact that The Mittani outlined his 3 steps and followed through. The only thing CCP did was issue a 30 day ban.
Nothing clever at this time. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:OP - sorry dude, The Mittani resigned of his own volition. He stated he would and followed through.
That's how democracy works, if a winning candidate (for any reason) can not serve, there is no revote.
You should take pride in the fact that The Mittani outlined his 3 steps and followed through. The only thing CCP did was issue a 30 day ban. If you actually read anything he said anywhere, he only resigned the chairmanship. CCP twisted his wording in the dev blog. Glad to see you did your homework though. |

Jack Parr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
i literally have no more room to store tears. i've got all this ice to mine and put on my itty and take it to jita to sell. you folks keep distracting me with all these delicious threads crying how the world has wronged you. maybe you could start up a wow account. i understand your glorious leader has a 30 day vacation, take him with you. they have cool swords and sparkly vampires there.
next time vote for a real candidate like darius and you can sit back and listen to your barry manilow cassette tapes all day long secure in the knowledge that you voted for a candidate who will serve his entire term.
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Ceptia Cyna
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:16:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:If you actually read anything he said anywhere, he only resigned the chairmanship. CCP twisted his wording in the dev blog. Glad to see you did your homework though.
No. They BANHAMMERED him and kicked him out of CSM.
Welcome to real life spacekiddy! Now go back and play EVE! |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
331
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:56:00 -
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I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.
Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:
* to act in a timely manner * to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary * for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM * for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel
Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.
Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
486
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:58:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
Translation: I dont like that democracy is working as intended.
He dun goofed. He has to take responsibility for that. End of story. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1457
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:59:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.
Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:
* to act in a timely manner * to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary * for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM * for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel
Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.
Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.
Uhm, not all the CSM!
Issler |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
331
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:02:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Princess Bride wrote:I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.
Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:
* to act in a timely manner * to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary * for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM * for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel
Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.
Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you. Uhm, not all the CSM! Issler
Sorry. Your voice was so drowned out I almost forgot.
EXCEPT ISSLER (obviously) who was a rare exception http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

MIkhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings DSM FOUNDATION
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:09:00 -
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Your vote was cast and it was accepted and counted as part of the whole process. The fact that there was an incident involving a CSM delegate that has forced CCP to remove that member from office bears no meaning on the voting process. None of the other CSM members were involved in said incident, and yet you call for the vote to be redone? Face it your man screwed up, the quicker you guys learn to accept that fact the quicker we can all get on with the serious business of internet spaceships! On a one man mission against asshatery!-á |

Allandi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:19:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.
Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:
* to act in a timely manner * to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary * for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM * for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel
Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.
Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.
Spot on - with damning, publicly available evidence, the need to 'discuss' it amongst the CSM is a show of weakness. The fact that you don't stand up immediately against such outrageously hateful comments towards another human being shows everyone the type of people you are.
Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning. |

Bibosikus
Inside out. The G0dfathers
89
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:36:00 -
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Allandi wrote:
Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning.
Of course they frigging do. Everywhere. ALL THE TIME. Where the hell do you live? Besides, you're contradicting yourself. The CSM is hardly a real political power, so by default they WILL take an age to "discuss something so damning"...
@OP - I would have liked Mittens to stay on the CSM but hey, no amount of protestation is going to change things now. We can be quite sure CCP took legal advice before they made their decision, so any amount of claiming shennanigans are going to hit a brick wall.
It's done and dusted.
Now get your sh*t together and go burn Jita. Most of Eve is planning to come watch  The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |

Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:50:00 -
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Jack Parr wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. i literally have no more room to store tears. i've got all this ice to mine and put on my itty and take it to jita to sell. you folks keep distracting me with all these delicious threads crying how the world has wronged you. maybe you could start up a wow account. i understand your glorious leader has a 30 day vacation, take him with you. they have cool swords and sparkly vampires there. next time vote for a real candidate like darius and you can sit back and listen to your barry manilow cassette tapes all day long secure in the knowledge that you voted for a candidate who will serve his entire term.
Welp, hope you use Jita well for the 30 days you have. Jita is going to be 'out of bounds' after that. |

Allandi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:01:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Allandi wrote:
Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning.
Of course they frigging do. Everywhere. ALL THE TIME. Where the hell do you live? Besides, you're contradicting yourself. The CSM is hardly a real political power, so by default they WILL take an age to "discuss something so damning"... @OP - I would have liked Mittens to stay on the CSM but hey, no amount of protestation is going to change things now. We can be quite sure CCP took legal advice before they made their decision, so any amount of claiming shennanigans are going to hit a brick wall. It's done and dusted. Now get your sh*t together and go burn Jita. Most of Eve is planning to come watch 
"Where the hell do you live?" I live in a country where if someone asked to further an agenda to see someone commit suicide, every political position in the country would instantly turn against them. There would be no discussion.
I have to ask though, where the hell do YOU live that people have to think about this? |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
137
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:09:00 -
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To all the bad posters bumping my thread: Thank you.
I knew obviously that D3 (rabid goon hater) and Isler (first on the emo kneejerk bandwagon) wouldn't step down in support of having a new CSM election to allow the 10000 to revote.
My plea is to those CSM members who have more than two brain cells to rub together. Particularly Seleene, Two Step and Vile Rat. What are your responses? |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
336
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:09:00 -
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Lenrir Andven wrote: Welp, hope you use Jita well for the 30 days you have. Jita is going to be 'out of bounds' after that.
I fear this because you will have the element of surprise. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
118
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:12:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:To all the bad posters bumping my thread: Thank you.
I knew obviously that D3 (rabid goon hater) and Isler (first on the emo kneejerk bandwagon) wouldn't step down in support of having a new CSM election to allow the 10000 to revote.
My plea is to those CSM members who have more than two brain cells to rub together. Particularly Seleene, Two Step and Vile Rat. What are your responses?
Bump!
Hey best step back from Issler! He is the best CSM rep out there. Principles above all! |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:22:00 -
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The CSM needs to state their position on this important issue. |

Jonatan Reed
Momentary Lapse of Reason. STR8NGE BREW
44
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:34:00 -
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0/10 |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:37:00 -
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The bad posting forces of New Eden are out in force tonight. Never stop posting.
CSM7, what is your response on this? |

Macon Chalaise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:05:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US.
He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote."
True story.
Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:13:00 -
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Macon Chalaise wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. Nixon was the peoples choice here in the US. He resigned. No one was disenfranchised. There was no "re-vote." True story. Keep on badpoastin' with terribad comparisons to RL politics. There aren't enough of you jumping into that bandwagon already. Thank you for the support to this crucial internet spaceships issue. |

yoyaz
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:17:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
2nd. All I see with CSM title is a free ticket to iceland. |

Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:47:00 -
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Oh, **** it, let's just do the whole fartfucking election over again. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:49:00 -
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Devilish Ledoux wrote:Oh, **** it, let's just do the whole fartfucking election over again. CCP could have just allowed the Mittani to stay as a regular member of the CSM. His demotion from chairman would have been enough, but they went full ******.
This is what it has come down to. Irrelevancy or a revote. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:43:00 -
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What say you, CSM7? Stay onboard a CSM no longer relevant or backed by democratic mandate? Or accept your free tickets to Iceland anyways? |
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
551
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:52:00 -
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There is no reason for a revote.
You were not disfranchised you got to vote.
Your boy blew it for you.
Take it up with him. He is the one the thew away your votes not ccp.
Alternates exist or a reason. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |

Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:56:00 -
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CSM7, resign! Just do it!
(We love you and will elect you again <3 ) |

Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:00:00 -
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RougeOperator,
You hard feelings on the subject are unfortunately starting to portrait you more as a bigoted moron than as a reasonable person.
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:05:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:CSM7, resign! Just do it!
(We love you and will elect you again <3 ) Well, <3 to all but Issler the terrible bandwagoner who jumped at the chance to decry Mittens when thought it was the popular thing to do. Even NDA breaching D3 is better than her, because atleast he's honest and stable with his goonie hatred. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
77
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:12:00 -
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Anyone who voted for the X-Chairman should take their problems about lost votes up with him.
You voted for him and he screwed up on a camera.
HTFU Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:15:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Durr hurrrrr I dont understand anything about player retention ohgod wont somebody thrill me please Why thank you for that informative and helpful poast~ |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
557
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:32:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Anyone who voted for the X-Chairman should take their problems about lost votes up with him.
You voted for him and he screwed up on a camera.
HTFU
Yup take it up with the failure mittens. Ask him why he wasted your vote. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
80
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Durr hurrrrr I dont understand anything about player retention ohgod wont somebody thrill me please Why thank you for that informative and helpful poast~ Your welcome, you bet on the wrong horse, it broke a leg and someone shot it. You don't get to vote again because you wasted your vote. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:35:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Durr hurrrrr I dont understand anything about player retention ohgod wont somebody thrill me please Why thank you for that informative and helpful poast~ Your welcome, you bet on the wrong horse, it broke a leg and someone shot it. You don't get to vote again because you wasted your vote. That's what you think, and I have this thing right here. It says you're wrong. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
81
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:37:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Durr hurrrrr I dont understand anything about player retention ohgod wont somebody thrill me please Why thank you for that informative and helpful poast~ Your welcome, you bet on the wrong horse, it broke a leg and someone shot it. You don't get to vote again because you wasted your vote. That's what you think, and I have this thing right here. It says you're wrong. Oh ok then, may I suggest for the safety of yourself and others you seek professional attention. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
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Macon Chalaise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:51:00 -
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The CSM and the election were in no way tainted by mittens. Mittens tainted himself.
CSM7 starts on April 4th.
No ones votes were wasted. Mittens was in fact elected to the CSM and the chair...and then he screwed up.
He's the ONLY person any of you "I CAN HAZ RELECTION?" people should be mad at.
If you feel like mittens stepping down was a waste of your vote, take it up with him. He is the one who "wasted" your vote. Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
183
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:17:00 -
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Macon Chalaise wrote:The CSM and the election were in no way tainted by mittens. Mittens tainted himself.
CSM7 starts on April 4th.
No ones votes were wasted. Mittens was in fact elected to the CSM and the chair...and then he screwed up.
He's the ONLY person any of you "I CAN HAZ RELECTION?" people should be mad at.
If you feel like mittens stepping down was a waste of your vote, take it up with him. He is the one who "wasted" your vote. CCP tainted the entire point of the election. They said 'your vote matters, so please cast it!' on one hand and then tossed out said casted votes because of a mistake that The Mittani made. That leaves 10000 opinions THAT CCP ASKED FOR unheard. It discredits the entire purpose of the CSM as it's chairman will no longer have the democratic mandate. CSM7 needs to step down and CCP should either allow a revote or toss the whole thing in the bin as the failure they made it into.
All of CSM5 and 6's hard work to achieve mindshare in the playerbase as a valid entity of democratically elected reps destroyed in one kneejerk by CCP. Well done, CCP.
Please compare this to RL politics though, we haven't had that done yet. Oh, can we also get some more 'tearz' memes? Thanks for your valuable insights, shiptoasters of New Eden! |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:07:00 -
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Macon Chalaise wrote:The CSM and the election were in no way tainted by mittens. Mittens tainted himself.
CSM7 starts on April 4th.
No ones votes were wasted. Mittens was in fact elected to the CSM and the chair...and then he screwed up.
He's the ONLY person any of you "I CAN HAZ RELECTION?" people should be mad at.
If you feel like mittens stepping down was a waste of your vote, take it up with him. He is the one who "wasted" your vote. I couldn't agree more, as too the work of csm 6 and 5's hard work being destroyed, well no but it has been over shadowed by one man's ego run amok. Frankly the 10,058 people who voted for him really need to admit they got what they voted for. They fed the ego and it went wild. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Glarealot
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:35:00 -
[44] - Quote
EVE is a game about choices. You and the rest of the goons made poor ones.
Your tears are delicious.
HTFU. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:50:00 -
[45] - Quote
Thanks for your support of my call for the CSM to reject CCP's terrible PR and marketing driven kneejerk! |

wanking monkey girl
Capital Maintenance
20
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:59:00 -
[46] - Quote
in past years a number of csm have been kicked stepped down and so on their no need to change the way its run over one small man and his ego |

Hailey Sunweaver
MAFIA PlAYGROUND. D E M O N S Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:39:00 -
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While I didn't vote for the mittens I can see why a election should take place. CCP effectively tossed out over 10k in votes, Which means those ppl who voted for mittens have no voice with the CSM. It wouldn't take much effort to run the election over and it wouldn't cost CCP anything. The fallout from this is still rippling across the water and will take time to settle. But I believe that if elections aren't done over it could hamper the efforts of CSM 7 and future CSMs to come. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1821
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:09:00 -
[48] - Quote
Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
lol like thats going to happen.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
328
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:42:00 -
[49] - Quote
Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. [...]
Wait, what?
No, seriously, what is this: I don't even...
   In irae, veritas. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
328
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:44:00 -
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Hailey Sunweaver wrote:While I didn't vote for the mittens I can see why a election should take place. CCP effectively tossed out over 10k in votes, Which means those ppl who voted for mittens have no voice with the CSM. It wouldn't take much effort to run the election over and it wouldn't cost CCP anything. The fallout from this is still rippling across the water and will take time to settle. But I believe that if elections aren't done over it could hamper the efforts of CSM 7 and future CSMs to come.
Mittens chose to act like a complete c**t. And no, in the world of actual adults, being off your **** is no excuse.
Now he and those who backed him must deal with the consequences.
Quite properly EVE-like, don't you think?
In irae, veritas. |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
328
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:47:00 -
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Time Funnel wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:To all the bad posters bumping my thread: Thank you.
I knew obviously that D3 (rabid goon hater) and Isler (first on the emo kneejerk bandwagon) wouldn't step down in support of having a new CSM election to allow the 10000 to revote.
My plea is to those CSM members who have more than two brain cells to rub together. Particularly Seleene, Two Step and Vile Rat. What are your responses? Bump! Hey best step back from Issler! He is the best CSM rep out there. Principles above all!
Actually, "he" is a "she," but:
How does their figurehead being a complete arse and paying a heavy price for same give "the 10,000" entitlement to special treatment?
Sorry, bru, you'll just have to wait till next year to corrupt/rig that election in due course.
'Till then, back under your bridges you go! In irae, veritas. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:48:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. lol im a nobody and I hate mittens because he's spacefamous. Used to think you were an alright guy, now I realize you're a bad and bitter goonswarm hater. Show me on the doll where the big meanie weenie goonie touched you, jadey-poo.
CSM without a democratically mandated chairman is doomed to the irrelevancy and ::lolfreeicelandtix:: of CSM 2-5. As a former member of the CSM, I'd think you would care enough to do something to correct that, Jade. Nah, much easier to crucify mittens out of hatred. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1825
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:24:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote: CSM without a democratically mandated chairman is doomed to the irrelevancy and ::lolfreeicelandtix:: of CSM 2-5. As a former member of the CSM, I'd think you would care enough to do something to correct that, Jade. Nah, much easier to crucify mittens out of hatred.
Thing is I think he was a pretty terrible influence on CSM6 and his "reforms" have made the CSM project less transparent, less accountable and more inclined to a "block votes win a free holiday to iceland" direction than actually representing a diverse range of player interests. Add in the embarrass CCP and the eve player base in the eyes of the gaming world by getting drunk and calling on people to harrassed into suicide thing - and you have a disaster of a csm chair who is best forgotten.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:33:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Thing is I think he was a pretty terrible influence on CSM6 and his "reforms" have made the CSM project less transparent, less accountable and more inclined to a "block votes win a free holiday to iceland" direction than actually representing a diverse range of player interests. Add in the embarrass CCP and the eve player base in the eyes of the gaming world by getting drunk and calling on people to harrassed into suicide thing - and you have a disaster of a csm chair who is best forgotten. That's your opinion and all, but a large majority of players think otherwise. Less transparency? Now I know you're just trolling. Specially that bit about the 'gaming world.' Those terrible websites written by hacks that call themselves journalists are worse than modern day tabloids by far.
No, clearly the only thing that needs to be forgotten is you (were you ever important?) and this ruination of what the CSM was supposed to represent.
But please, continue hamming up what the Mittani said/did to further your agenda of :goonswarmarentpeople: you space-racist hypocritical wad of bad poasting. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
109
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:54:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote: That's your opinion and all, but a large majority of players think otherwise
The Majority of EvE just don't care, that's why voter turn out is so low. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:52:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote: That's your opinion and all, but a large majority of players think otherwise
The Majority of EvE just don't care, that's why voter turn out is so low. And after this ******** incident, expect turnout to be even less. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
112
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:57:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote: That's your opinion and all, but a large majority of players think otherwise
The Majority of EvE just don't care, that's why voter turn out is so low. And after this ******** incident, expect turnout to be even less. Probably so. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:02:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Probably so. Well, don't give up there! The CSM could disband itself to let CCP know that they think this was a terrible idea. Or they could request a revote for all. Or just a revote for the ~10058~. Mittens can keep his 30 day ban and rejoin the council afterwards. Or keep him off the council entirely and just let the voters pick someone else. Otherwise they are no longer represented and (in more than just my case, as evidenced by the tons of threads) disillusioned with the whole idea of a CSM. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
117
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Posted - 2012.03.30 12:49:00 -
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Please stop. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:35:00 -
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I support this service / product.
This CSM is innefective and totally non representative of the playerbase.
New ellections should be called.
And each candidate should have a appointed replacement of the same "party". |
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:48:00 -
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Welsige wrote:I support this service / product.
This CSM is innefective and totally non representative of the playerbase.
New ellections should be called.
And each candidate should have a appointed replacement of the same "party". You member got booted so now all the CSM is ineffective and non-representative. HTFU Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

GondriA
BLUE EAGLES Pinked
3
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:06:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
and why they need to do that? cause u vote someone that self-destroy himself? stop cry and continue ur life.... |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:25:00 -
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GondriA wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. hurr duurrrr circular logic + troll = AWESOME deerrrrrp Still no CSM joint response or a CCP response to the calls for a revote for 10000 disenfranchised voters. Glad to see that the CSM concept is more relevant and important than ever.
Woooo free tickets to iceland! |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
129
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:50:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:GondriA wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. hurr duurrrr circular logic + troll = AWESOME deerrrrrp Still no CSM joint response or a CCP response to the calls for a revote for 10000 disenfranchised voters. Glad to see that the CSM concept is more relevant and important than ever. Woooo free tickets to iceland! CCP has issued a statement in the forums on it actually maybe you should keep up. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:40:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:GondriA wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice. hurr duurrrr circular logic + troll = AWESOME deerrrrrp Still no CSM joint response or a CCP response to the calls for a revote for 10000 disenfranchised voters. Glad to see that the CSM concept is more relevant and important than ever. Woooo free tickets to iceland! CCP has issued a statement in the forums on it actually maybe you should keep up. Oh you mean that post in the thread about the devblog? Yeah well I think it was a bad call and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Stop trying to silence the 10000 and get skilled with fire. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:00:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote: Oh you mean that post in the thread about the devblog? Yeah well I think it was a bad call and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Stop trying to silence the 10000 and get skilled with fire.
No one but the people who wasted their votes by not thinking silenced their own votes. If you don't take things like the possibility of the X-Chairman being thrown out for acting like a fool, into account the first time you don't deserve to have another chance to waste your precious vote. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:24:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I'm a bad and am ignorant in all things election related. Keep on stalking my post, brah! |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
136
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:35:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I'm a bad and am ignorant in all things election related. Keep on stalking my post, brah! It is really easy stop posting and I will (in response to you) or are you implying that only your voice should be heard. Strange behavior from someone who has spent days whining about the fact he voted stupidly and that it cost you your voice. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2012.04.01 10:33:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Abloo bloo blooo bloo, I'm a bad. You should write more posts about it. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
140
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Posted - 2012.04.01 10:38:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Abloo bloo blooo bloo, I'm a bad. No just your posts. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2012.04.01 10:42:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Abloo bloo blooo bloo, I'm a bad. No just my fashion sense. FTFY |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
141
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Posted - 2012.04.01 10:50:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Abloo bloo blooo bloo, I'm a bad. No just my fashion sense. FTFY Bored now you should just find a rock to hide under and someone should axe this thread. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
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