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Kira Knightly
Caldari Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:01:00 -
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Another one bites the dust.
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
The overall Map gets smaller and smaller as more Medium sized Alliances bite the dust in 0.0
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:09:00 -
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BAN THE OBVIUS ALT PLEASE KTHNX AND GO AND HANG YOUR KEYBOARD IN THE TOILETTE WHERE IT BELONGS!!! CRAP+CRAP= BAN!!
caps makes me awsome............ not
signature is not EVE related, please change. ~WeatherMan |

Kira Knightly
Caldari Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:11:00 -
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Close but no cookie...
Been kicking about for 3 years.
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Terrorisma
Meltd0wn iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:21:00 -
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gratz to Pure for being the last smaller entity which is departing....
Hey Fred whazz going on in the north these days??? Never expected that the south might have that good chances against you guys..
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Coalition of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:22:00 -
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No surprise there then. MAX claims another victim.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:25:00 -
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Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
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Kira Knightly
Caldari Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:27:00 -
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MAX might claim partial victory here, but essentially the nap is to the forces on the Western Edge of NC space - a sub fight within a fight.
Since Bob/GBC seem to have bigger fish to fry in Tribute, im guessing that they won't intervene in Pure's retreat from 0.0, however the "nap" isnt with the GBC itself.
Smart move by Goodfellows though, gives them the oppertunity to get pos up on the prime moon spots before any other entities shooting up north move to the NW edge.
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Omeega
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: CHIKA QRE getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
You're full of chocolate fudge.
I've warned youguys that they would do this, and also warned youguys that this is not an exploit and is completely legitimate.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:02:00 -
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So GBC now pressuring from the West, BOB & TRI from the East.
Not a pretty picture for the NC.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
bitter NC-alt or a flame GBC alt.... 
signature is not EVE related, please change. ~WeatherMan |

Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: CHIKA QRE getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Yes - using exactly same exploit razor used to get out their titan from our "**** cage". Double standards, bitter alt?
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Wesley Baird
Order and Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: CHIKA QRE getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Yes - using exactly same exploit razor used to get out their titan from our "**** cage". Double standards, bitter alt?
That was smart game play...they also did that with the Roq that was stuck there if I recall correctly...but hey, when its Tri or GBC we are cheaters and exploiters etc...when the NC does it...its smart game play...
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hungdra
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
See how stupid you look? 
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Barbaro55a
Caldari Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 13:42:00 -
[15]
:wellhidentroll:
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: white kight No surprise there then. MAX claims another victim.
10m to the person who digs up the IRON and Pure posts stating that MAX was doomed to be a failure...you know, for posterity.
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: white kight No surprise there then. MAX claims another victim.
This is clearly not an achievement of GBC/TRI! PURE. and HYDRA leaders had RL issues and told to the other NC leaders back on the NC BBQ in 2004 that they would go back to empire/disband in fall 08.
Try harder GBC/TRI, you have nothing serious done to the NC so far.
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: hungdra
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
See how stupid you look? 
Stop talking to your reflection in a mirror. Just get over it.
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:34:00 -
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wow you have such and insight
TC4LIFE I Am The LOL Generation |

touchvill
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:40:00 -
[20]
Good luck Pure.
I have never liked you but I think with this move I can now say...
No sc**** that I still hate you.  ----------
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Namelesz
Viscosity
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:43:00 -
[21]
you spelled Keira wrong.
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Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Knightly
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
But we only have forum warriors :( |

DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Namelesz you spelled Keira wrong.
No no, Kira Knightly is from the POTC remake where she goes emo raging with a Gundam.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 24/09/2008 16:10:33 yeah blah byebye..NEXT! >.> looks at MM..
 Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: bitters much
Originally by: white kight No surprise there then. MAX claims another victim.
This is clearly not an achievement of GBC/TRI! PURE. and HYDRA leaders had RL issues and told to the other NC leaders back on the NC BBQ in 2004 that they would go back to empire/disband in fall 08.
Try harder GBC/TRI, you have nothing serious done to the NC so far.
>.> looks at IRON Awesome EVE history
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

hungdra
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: hungdra
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
See how stupid you look? 
Stop talking to your reflection in a mirror. Just get over it.
The good thing about you posts is that they give very good insight on your mental profile. I have, therefore, now come to the conclusion that you are no older than 15 years of age (mentally that is). I hope you have your parentĘs permission to play this gameą 
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.24 16:47:00 -
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Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends. --
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Manfred Sideous
H A V O C The Cadre.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 17:22:00 -
[29]
From a old FIX guy - Drantis Karma sux dont it GG
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Wesley Baird
Order and Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.24 17:29:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
I approve this message as it means more pew pew...
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.24 17:36:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
Means nothing unless you have sov.
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queen najazer
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.09.24 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends.
If the NC didnt know that Pure. were selling supercaps to BoB, then their intel really does stink
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Lee ChanKa
Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.24 18:12:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
we change with hirr for mshd station because i hawe 1 rifter ther and nead to pick it up... FITED rifter
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.24 18:19:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
lmao 2 minutes after we took the station NC came in with a hac gang. They retook the station for a whole 50 minutes.
p.s. 25 character limit on stations sucks donkey balls  Please resize your signature to a maximum filesize of 24000 bytes. Navigator |

Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 18:22:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Sacul
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
lmao 2 minutes after we took the station NC came in with a hac gang. They retook the station for a whole 50 minutes.
p.s. 25 character limit on stations sucks donkey balls 
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 18:23:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Sacul
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Everything is taken care of already, goodfellas can't even keep stations they took from pure.
[ 2008.09.24 15:27:59 ] (notify) The station CZD Pimp's peg leg production li has been captured by hirr corporation!
lmao 2 minutes after we took the station NC came in with a hac gang. They retook the station for a whole 50 minutes.
p.s. 25 character limit on stations sucks donkey balls 
Yeah unfortunatly we weren't fast enough, i was dying for a couple of cap kills, but oh well, please treat this station nicely, because i don't want any dents in it, the next time we come knocking on it's doors ;) Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.24 18:47:00 -
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Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
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Yaay
Game-Over
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:13:00 -
[38]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
makes you wonder why they don't just form 1 alliance huh
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:15:00 -
[39]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
I dunno, I can see why you went with Pure for their 2 year survival but considering the other Northern fail alliances I really don't see how anything can overshadow the juggernaut of fail that is CoD/IRON.
you see Iron does not leech off a suger daddy (bob) to make its way through eve or define itself as an entity. -Gneeznow 2008.08.27 |

John Oldman
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:24:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Yaay
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
makes you wonder why they don't just form 1 alliance huh
Hypocrisy at its best. BoB did not manage to defend all its regions alone, and needed lots of support to hold Delve. And all these puppets following BoB now, expect reward after MAX, a region or few which they cannot defend by themselves...
Not that any NC alliance has defended their regions alone. Point being, why rant if you're full of _it_.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:31:00 -
[41]
Originally by: John Oldman
Originally by: Yaay
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
makes you wonder why they don't just form 1 alliance huh
Hypocrisy at its best. BoB did not manage to defend all its regions alone, and needed lots of support to hold Delve. And all these puppets following BoB now, expect reward after MAX, a region or few which they cannot defend by themselves...
Not that any NC alliance has defended their regions alone. Point being, why rant if you're full of _it_.
Where does it say he's agreeing with BoB doing it?
you see Iron does not leech off a suger daddy (bob) to make its way through eve or define itself as an entity. -Gneeznow 2008.08.27 |

Namelesz
Viscosity
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:50:00 -
[42]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Namelesz you spelled Keira wrong.
No no, Kira Knightly is from the POTC remake where she goes emo raging with a Gundam.
Hey DC old pal! You forum-stalkin me?!?!??! 
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:59:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Crackzilla on 24/09/2008 20:00:16
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Don't hate the power blocs. Instead hate pos warfare that requires the sheer numbers that only a power bloc can bring to the field.
Most 0.0 warfare is about one side or the other getting a critical mass of battleships, caps, and supplies on the field. Once the other side has seen that they can't field a response then the war is over. Sov 4 etc exists to buy time to evacuate stuff.
Large alliances/power blocs aren't formed because it is fun, but because it works. This isn't to say that large blocs wouldn't be formed for this is human nature. Instead as things exist an alliance *must* be part of a larger entity or be crushed. There isn't any room for medium or small groups.
Currently it makes sense for a strong entity to create a power bloc including weaker forces. If the strong alliance doesn't have the critical mass and nearly 23/7 coverage then numbers are more important than strength. Otherwise the stronger alliance could be torn apart by another power bloc that is willing to nap anyone possible (assuming nearly equal strength).
I'd almost rather we reverted to years ago when a station could be taken by a few battleships without worrying about sov or pos mechanics. Hit and run tactics would be viable. Large alliances like BoB or Goons couldn't control large swathes of space or else be picked apart.
As it stands currently it is easier and more entertaining to attack then to defend. So defenses crumble quickly. Fix pos warfare and it will resolve the need for large power blocs.
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Absu Tagari
Gates of Valhalla
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:11:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Crackzilla Edited by: Crackzilla on 24/09/2008 20:00:16
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Don't hate the power blocs. Instead hate pos warfare that requires the sheer numbers that only a power bloc can bring to the field.
Most 0.0 warfare is about one side or the other getting a critical mass of battleships, caps, and supplies on the field. Once the other side has seen that they can't field a response then the war is over. Sov 4 etc exists to buy time to evacuate stuff.
Large alliances/power blocs aren't formed because it is fun, but because it works. This isn't to say that large blocs wouldn't be formed for this is human nature. Instead as things exist an alliance *must* be part of a larger entity or be crushed. There isn't any room for medium or small groups.
Currently it makes sense for a strong entity to create a power bloc including weaker forces. If the strong alliance doesn't have the critical mass and nearly 23/7 coverage then numbers are more important than strength. Otherwise the stronger alliance could be torn apart by another power bloc that is willing to nap anyone possible (assuming nearly equal strength).
I'd almost rather we reverted to years ago when a station could be taken by a few battleships without worrying about sov or pos mechanics. Hit and run tactics would be viable. Large alliances like BoB or Goons couldn't control large swathes of space or else be picked apart.
As it stands currently it is easier and more entertaining to attack then to defend. So defenses crumble quickly. Fix pos warfare and it will resolve the need for large power blocs.
There is no advantage to being a small entity. Well, simplicity is an advantage that is for sure. But as far as having a sphere of influence, being small makes that hard. If you want to hold lands in 0.0 you need a pipe to run supplies and conventional members around, you need a jump route for your capitals, etc. This alone makes it impractical for a small entity to exist far from empire. You have to become huge or in a coalition to exist in the most distant parts of conquerable 0.0.
The best solution that I can think of is to change the layout of 0.0. All pipes should go through NPC 0.0 space with the conquerable space branching out of NPC 0.0 (oh the joy to the pirates! Make 0.0 entities form convoys to move supplies.)
My Eve (pardon my awesome paint skills)
The best regions would be closer to empire, but smaller, while as you get further and further from the center of the galaxy the regions get larger.
My solution however is not a practical solution because it would **** too many players off when their mighty empires crumble to the CCP devs.
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Rehmes
Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:27:00 -
[45]
Your idea is crazy cool. But CCP would never do it. I certainly would enjoy having targets closer, and im sure any pvp entity would enjoy the cleansing services these pirates would provide lol. ***Where am I?*** |

Seth Quantix
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:36:00 -
[46]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
I high lighted the bit that made me wee a little.
Best thing is that all spies in bob will be thinking, I hope this ****dumster aint in our alliance as he looks as bright as a very dull thing on a bull day.
What failed alliance are you from? It's a shame your too much of a ***** to use a main but I expect your failed allaince has a posting ban thus stopping you from crying publicly.
Find a fire and die in it please........In game ofcourse. -----------------------------------------------
The NC final solution:
Quote: rawr-vuk-lau: can we set BoB blue so we can kill Tri together?
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:10:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/09/2008 00:16:36 Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/09/2008 00:16:18
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: CHIKA QRE getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Yes - using exactly same exploit razor used to get out their titan from our "**** cage". Double standards, bitter alt?
That was smart game play...they also did that with the Roq that was stuck there if I recall correctly...but hey, when its Tri or GBC we are cheaters and exploiters etc...when the NC does it...its smart game play...
Perhaps CCP could fix this obvious exploit, when titans and moms are suffering the same sort of unfortunate multiple disconect in a row as freighter pilots seem to get a lot.
Solution is simple - always warp back into same spot
Reason CCP wont implement it?: /me barely holding back bannable rage outburst
SKUNK
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Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:16:00 -
[48]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Omg we lost 20 caps but we killed 100 including 8 motherships and Titan. We suck.
And we decided to log off from game. A internet computer game. Then to log on into it when we had time to play. Then we decided to log off again. And then on again as we had more time to play. And when we logged in holly cow!!! We were not in POS location anymore.
R3tard.
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cheephough
Fat J Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:31:00 -
[49]
Originally by: queen najazer
Originally by: Lord WarATron Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends.
If the NC didnt know that Pure. were selling supercaps to BoB, then their intel really does stink
o/ queen, how's digs?
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.25 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 25/09/2008 00:44:51
Originally by: fugazii Where does it say he's agreeing with BoB doing it?
Correct, I don't. BoB has no need for coalitions to kill others or defend space. I think the other GBC entities sort of tagged along because they saw opportunities there for themselves, whether or not its to BoB's benefit or request. BoB isn't going to tell them to get lost because there is immediate benefit. What is the incentive to make things harder than they need to be?
Anyone want to answer that?
I could get into the trade-offs and consequences, but in the end BoB is still getting action for its members, which at least builds experience for handling big wars.
The NC alliances created peace and stability at home (which is good), but then sat there waiting for others to bring it. And apparently, they still didn't get the hint after MC and TRISURGE.
edit: lol pyramid
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Babeele
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:09:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Seth Quantix
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
I high lighted the bit that made me wee a little.
Best thing is that all spies in bob will be thinking, I hope this ****dumster aint in our alliance as he looks as bright as a very dull thing on a bull day.
What failed alliance are you from? It's a shame your too much of a ***** to use a main but I expect your failed allaince has a posting ban thus stopping you from crying publicly.
Find a fire and die in it please........In game ofcourse.
Chika Qre is Cika Kure, character in one of the Serbian movies. So, Chika Qre is MM alt.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:25:00 -
[52]
please kill morsus mihi next ktia ---
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Clinically
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Clinically on 25/09/2008 01:41:20
Originally by: Major PewPew 10m to the person who digs up the IRON and Pure posts stating that MAX was doomed to be a failure...you know, for posterity.
I like monies and there are some true gems =)
Originally by: Richard Angevian MAXFail doesn't seem to be having much impact at all, except to cost CCP, uh, BOB a lot of ISK for lost ships and to harass the broken regions that once was held by Tri.
Frankly "max" is nothing but pure propaganda, designed to fool everyone into thinking that bob still can somehow "control" EVE, when the fact of the matter is they proved last year that they CANT.
source: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/828916/page/2
Originally by: sasha lyre MAX has been an utter disaster and yet we haven't yet seen an honest admission of this.
Will BOB and the multiple aliance minions that 'hang on' to their skirts ever admit that they are being totally outfought? No, they won't ever admit that.
Source: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/822063/page/1
and another:
Originally by: sasha lyre The campaign is in tatters, MAX may go down in eve history as something you don't want to be associated with, an isk sink of epic proportions, a grave.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/820531/page/1#22
Edit: Dammit poasting with my main, hi guys *waves*
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Aales Eae
Solus Navy
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Posted - 2008.09.25 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends.
Just wait until they go inactive for a little while and lend their titan to someone. You BNC guys are great at ripping off your buddies you've flown with for over 5 years. Butter Dog = Bitter Puppy
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.25 02:58:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Kira Knightly Edited by: Kira Knightly on 24/09/2008 12:09:31
Another one bites the dust.
Well Razor dudes, this would be a good time to get your participation levels up, because your homeland just got exposed.
Edit*
Sorry should have said, as off downtime on the 21st they signed a short term nap with opposing forces to get their "stuff" out.
Pure have a posting ban on this off course so don't expect them to confirm it.
The overall Map gets smaller and smaller as more Medium sized Alliances bite the dust in 0.0

Who the hell are you to post this piece of news?
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Resipsa Loquitor
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 05:02:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Absu Tagari My Eve (pardon my awesome paint skills)
The best regions would be closer to empire, but smaller, while as you get further and further from the center of the galaxy the regions get larger.
OMG, its hurricane-icon shaped EVE. RUN!!! RUN FROM THE STORM A-COMIN'!!!!       
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Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.09.25 05:33:00 -
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Best thing for the NC is to have their territory temporarily contract into a smaller, easier to defend size. If Pure, Iron and Hydra (or what is left of them) were to move into Tribute and Branch then it would be significantly easier for them to defend with a larger concentration of players in a smaller area.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.25 05:45:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit? Is this same like GBC made Hydra disband? If that is so I wonder how many ships will GBC loose before MM and RZR surrender. I'm sure a quantuple titan loss would make all alliances fall on their knees. And if you suicide your entire cap fleet I'm convinced that entire WOW population will succumb to you.
You really are quite horrible at this.
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cheephough
Fat J Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:09:00 -
[59]
Originally by: John Oldman
Originally by: Yaay
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Side rant, but this is what I hate about political power blocs. It protects weak alliances from having their space contested and prevents them from getting better.
Pure has survived for what, two years? This is the first time anybody did anything to them directly.
People want to be in separate alliances, but then cop out and form these huge interdependent groups to get anything done.
makes you wonder why they don't just form 1 alliance huh
Hypocrisy at its best. BoB did not manage to defend all its regions alone, and needed lots of support to hold Delve. And all these puppets following BoB now, expect reward after MAX, a region or few which they cannot defend by themselves...
Not that any NC alliance has defended their regions alone. Point being, why rant if you're full of _it_.
Uh, I seem to recall, during the whole snackin' in Nol campaign there, the North was saying Bob was raping their pets of decent pilots and letting the rest fall by the wayside.
Isn't that a form (allbeit harsh, uncaring, whatever) of consolidating under one alliance?
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DorXtar
The Hull Miners Union The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:11:00 -
[60]
My Eve
OMG, its hurricane-icon shaped EVE. RUN!!! RUN FROM THE STORM A-COMIN'!!!!       
Looks more like a celestis.
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cheephough
Fat J Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:15:00 -
[61]
Originally by: DorXtar My Eve
OMG, its hurricane-icon shaped EVE. RUN!!! RUN FROM THE STORM A-COMIN'!!!!       
Looks more like a celestis.
Looks like one of my personal massage devices.
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John Oldman
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:20:00 -
[62]
Originally by: cheephough
Uh, I seem to recall, during the whole snackin' in Nol campaign there, the North was saying Bob was raping their pets of decent pilots and letting the rest fall by the wayside.
Isn't that a form (allbeit harsh, uncaring, whatever) of consolidating under one alliance?
Yes, BoB abandoned alot of alliances and corps in the process, but also took alot under their wing. But no, it wasn't only BoB defending Delve, they have become reliant of other corps/alliances. I suppose current allies of BoB wish to be in the latter group when tides turn next time :)
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Absu Tagari
Gates of Valhalla
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Posted - 2008.09.25 06:39:00 -
[63]
Originally by: John Oldman
Originally by: cheephough
Uh, I seem to recall, during the whole snackin' in Nol campaign there, the North was saying Bob was raping their pets of decent pilots and letting the rest fall by the wayside.
Isn't that a form (allbeit harsh, uncaring, whatever) of consolidating under one alliance?
Yes, BoB abandoned alot of alliances and corps in the process, but also took alot under their wing. But no, it wasn't only BoB defending Delve, they have become reliant of other corps/alliances. I suppose current allies of BoB wish to be in the latter group when tides turn next time :)
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
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Eskalin
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:10:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
so by your reasoning bob and by association the GBC should be a democratic utopia where everyone has their voice heard and respected. where everyone's opinion is special and unique.
this is not the case.
bob is a war machine. we are pointed in a direction and we get results. we take the cream of eve into our ranks, to join our brotherhood. this is just the natural order of things. you might as well hate the sun for being bright and snow for being cold. the strong take what we want cause we are strong and the weak bleat about it cause they can do little else
prove me wrong
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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Huan Hunglong
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:24:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
I think youll find thats Culling the heard.
Why youd want to cure them, i dont know 
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:24:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Eskalin
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
so by your reasoning bob and by association the GBC should be a democratic utopia where everyone has their voice heard and respected. where everyone's opinion is special and unique.
this is not the case.
bob is a war machine. we are pointed in a direction and we get results. we take the cream of eve into our ranks, to join our brotherhood. this is just the natural order of things. you might as well hate the sun for being bright and snow for being cold. the strong take what we want cause we are strong and the weak bleat about it cause they can do little else
prove me wrong
When did BURN EDEN join bob?
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:26:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Originally by: Eskalin
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
so by your reasoning bob and by association the GBC should be a democratic utopia where everyone has their voice heard and respected. where everyone's opinion is special and unique.
this is not the case.
bob is a war machine. we are pointed in a direction and we get results. we take the cream of eve into our ranks, to join our brotherhood. this is just the natural order of things. you might as well hate the sun for being bright and snow for being cold. the strong take what we want cause we are strong and the weak bleat about it cause they can do little else
prove me wrong
When did BURN EDEN join bob?
Like he said, he was talking about the cream of eve ;) Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

Huan Hunglong
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:29:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Evil Pookie When did BURN EDEN join bob?
Like he said, he was talking about the cream of eve ;)
And that isnt cream dripping off pookies chin.
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:33:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Huan Hunglong
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Evil Pookie When did BURN EDEN join bob?
Like he said, he was talking about the cream of eve ;)
And that isnt cream dripping off pookies chin.
Well that might be some different cream, from pookie trying to get in :P Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

John Oldman
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:35:00 -
[70]
Good post Eskalin.
There are different ways to do it, different approaches how to handle recruiting and alliance relationships in this game. Similarity is that all alliances in this game need allies and friends. Difference comes in treating the allies.
BoB recruits openly best players from its allies, and throws weakened allies out after exploiting them (or keeps them as renters). While northern block has openly welcomed similarly thinking smaller alliances to live side-by-side, with differing mutual defence pacts.
I think there are pros and cons in both approaches. What I do not understand is the constant denial and hypocrisy about BoB not needing allies.
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Coalition of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:52:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Aales Eae
Originally by: Lord WarATron Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends.
Just wait until they go inactive for a little while and lend their titan to someone. You BNC guys are great at ripping off your buddies you've flown with for over 5 years.
Ouch....bitter alt detected
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Thread Locked.
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Oh who am I kidding - Continue 
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Slinktress
Gallente legion of qui Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.09.25 08:29:00 -
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I think this should be more of a "grats" to Goodfellas thread than an omg BOB is so evil for destroying Pure.
Goodfellas won the surrender of Upper Dek only from Pure., are honoring their agreement, and Pure. isn't dead, yet.
As was stated on some unofficial forums, Goodfellas are independent of BOB now, and wave old friends there o/ Elf, etc.
The only disagreement with the BOB posts I have is that BOB members are "special"... I've seen the BBQ pics 
Pure have suffered the same result sooo many alliances have of trying to hold 2 separate regions, *especially* during War Time.
Credit's already been given to TRI and BOB, so can Goodfellas keep up as a 0.0 power? I'm curious to see o7
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doofydoo
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Posted - 2008.09.25 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 25/09/2008 00:17:15
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Omg we lost 20 caps but we killed 100 including 8 motherships and Titan. We suck.
And we decided to log off from game. A internet computer game. Then to log on into it when we had time to play. Then we decided to log off again. And then on again as we had more time to play. And when we logged in holly cow!!! We were not in POS location anymore.
Dev Hax Sploits!
R3tard.

RAWR a bob memeber playing down losses by saying "its only a game"
that is epic. most of bob spend so much time in game and are so anal about winning, you dont even know what real life is
oh and when your comparing kills/losses. dont compare your losses in one system against your kills for a whole campaign mmkay?
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 25/09/2008 00:17:15
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Omg we lost 20 caps but we killed 100 including 8 motherships and Titan. We suck.
And we decided to log off from game. A internet computer game. Then to log on into it when we had time to play. Then we decided to log off again. And then on again as we had more time to play. And when we logged in holly cow!!! We were not in POS location anymore.
Dev Hax Sploits!
R3tard.

look how stupid you look.
we know what happened, you know what happened, your alliance/corp members laughing on ts/vent know what happened.
don't make up excuses.
it's a legit tactic, not an exploit, don't make up something that it isn't.
also, post with the wrong character?
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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PooooBear
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:36:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Eskalin
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
so by your reasoning bob and by association the GBC should be a democratic utopia where everyone has their voice heard and respected. where everyone's opinion is special and unique.
this is not the case.
bob is a war machine. we are pointed in a direction and we get results. we take the cream of eve into our ranks, to join our brotherhood. this is just the natural order of things. you might as well hate the sun for being bright and snow for being cold. the strong take what we want cause we are strong and the weak bleat about it cause they can do little else
prove me wrong
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/09/2008 00:16:36 Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/09/2008 00:16:18
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: CHIKA QRE getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Yes - using exactly same exploit razor used to get out their titan from our "**** cage". Double standards, bitter alt?
That was smart game play...they als
o did that with the Roq that was stuck there if I recall correctly...but hey, when its Tri or GBC we are cheaters and exploiters etc...when the NC does it...its smart game play...
Perhaps CCP could fix this obvious exploit, when titans and moms are suffering the same sort of unfortunate multiple disconect in a row as freighter pilots seem to get a lot.
Solution is simple - always warp back into same spot
Reason CCP wont implement it?: /me barely holding back bannable rage outburst
SKUNK
Boggles your mind, doesnt it? Theres a realistic way to kill supercaps in a direct combat way but ccp leaves this logoff thing in the game, well, since forever.
Btw there was a time when bob wouldve lauighed bout using a tactic like that but rather come in to bust that camp and get those caps out the proper way.
And eskalin, cream of eve - id say that times over since the mass lv recruiting, i dont see bob players being more experienced pilots above the usual alliance guy that knows his shit, what makes bob strong is the leadership. -
Boosters and PirateProfessions
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Huan Hunglong
Originally by: Absu Tagari
I believe they call this "curing the heard"...
I think youll find thats Culling the heard.
Why youd want to cure them, i dont know 
It's 'herd' not 'heard'. If you're going to smack people's grammar and spelling do try to be accurate.
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Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:09:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Hey You on 25/09/2008 11:10:40
Originally by: doofydoo
Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 25/09/2008 00:17:15
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Rubra Yet more proof that MAX is a huge failure. The NC is vindicated!
So GBC forced PURE to surrender by having their ships blown up in masses, lossing 20 caps in Tribute, and getting 2 of their motherships out of MM **** cage by using the log-off-and-on exploit?
Omg we lost 20 caps but we killed 100 including 8 motherships and Titan. We suck.
And we decided to log off from game. A internet computer game. Then to log on into it when we had time to play. Then we decided to log off again. And then on again as we had more time to play. And when we logged in holly cow!!! We were not in POS location anymore.
Dev Hax Sploits!
R3tard.

RAWR a bob memeber playing down losses by saying "its only a game"
that is epic. most of bob spend so much time in game and are so anal about winning, you dont even know what real life is
oh and when your comparing kills/losses. dont compare your losses in one system against your kills for a whole campaign mmkay?
Good job at completely missing point of the post idiot. But then again you are a MM alt so i forgive you. You should teach us all what real life is. You should also teach us all how many regions and members of NC you had and how many you have now.
Once again... Idiot.
Also to the guy from IAC who also missed point of the post i will simplify it. Yes we used a log on log off mechanics which is totally legal mechanics in a computer game to save whatever was "trapped" in bubbles where pos was. Yes we also had a laugh at NC gang waiting on pos for us. I personally got my Dread out by that mechanic and it works like charm. Props for NC for furiously camping our dead pos location for days tough. __________________________________
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PooooBear
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:12:00 -
[79]
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Goktar illiat
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:20:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Eskalin
Originally by: Absu Tagari
bob is a war machine. we take the cream of eve into our ranks
EXE and finfleet mainly !!
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:43:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Slinktress I think this should be more of a "grats" to Goodfellas thread than an omg BOB is so evil for destroying Pure.
Goodfellas won the surrender of Upper Dek only from Pure., are honoring their agreement, and Pure. isn't dead, yet.
As was stated on some unofficial forums, Goodfellas are independent of BOB now, and wave old friends there o/ Elf, etc.
1st on topic post for like 2 pages, think this thread needs a lock. Plenty of other bob posts all over CAOD.
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Kira Knightly
Caldari Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:47:00 -
[82]
I can assure you that was the idea behind the thread...
As the original poster i'll back the request to get this locked now.
In summary, Poor effort from Pure (but thats covered in other threads) - Good job from Goodfellows (and freinds).
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Thimerion
shadow and flame Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:56:00 -
[83]
So pure will be the 3rd majour alliance to fall to the max campaign?
Dose anyone actually have an acurate efficiency rating for the GBC in this?
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:14:00 -
[84]
As predicted, Pure lasted almost 3 hours and then folded while their allies battle on. At least hydra decided to try and fight to the last rather than cut and run like these cowards.
Also for the ill informed, Goodfellas are not GBC anymore, so its not a victory for MAX at all as the stations are going to another hostile entity.
That said the Goodfellas have restrained themselves from trying to take the undefended stations bob leave in their wake and are focusing on NC held ones.
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Djuma Nihilist
Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:15:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Diehard Si
1st on topic post for like 2 pages, think this thread needs a lock. Plenty of other bob posts all over CAOD.
What topic? 
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:24:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Absu Tagari The best solution that I can think of is to change the layout of 0.0. All pipes should go through NPC 0.0 space with the conquerable space branching out of NPC 0.0 (oh the joy to the pirates! Make 0.0 entities form convoys to move supplies.
That's actually a good idea, but I can't see CCP basically redesigning the whole map to do it. Having empire surrounded entirely by lowsec, and then lowsec surrounded by NPC sov 0.0, which is then surrounded by conquerable 0.0 would be an ideal configuration, with increasing rewards (truesec) as you go farther away from highsec.
It would make logistics more difficult and give smaller groups an avenue to make an impact on larger alliances as they travel. As it stands now, some alliances can setup a jump bridge network 1 jump out of highsec and as long as they make the first jump, they can travel in relative safety all the way to their destination.
To balance the problem of chokepoints and prevent camping 1 gate to cut off an entire region, there would need to be multiple links between neighboring regions though.
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Thimerion
shadow and flame Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:28:00 -
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As you said, CCP will as allways refuse to admit that this game is anything but flawless so there is little chance of anything being done about it. Nice idea though!
Open a second universe maybe?
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:38:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Thimerion So pure will be the 3rd majour alliance to fall to the max campaign?
Dose anyone actually have an acurate efficiency rating for the GBC in this?
Dose anyone actually have an acurate deficiency rating for the GBC in the whole?
I mean, whooooooooooooooooooouha! The GBC finally made 3 alliances implode when more than a dozen GBC alliances were left to die.
Quick, the submit button!
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Zandramus
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.25 13:03:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Colonel Xaven
Originally by: Slinktress As was stated on some unofficial forums, Goodfellas are independent of BOB now, and wave old friends there o/ Elf, etc.
lol and
Originally by: umop 3pisdn Also for the ill informed, Goodfellas are not GBC anymore, so its not a victory for MAX at all as the stations are going to another hostile entity.
lol.
As independent as the other 16+ GBC alliances?
is this an nc member complaining about numbers?i might just be tired but lulz tbh
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 13:12:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Colonel Xaven on 25/09/2008 13:12:09
Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Colonel Xaven
Originally by: Slinktress As was stated on some unofficial forums, Goodfellas are independent of BOB now, and wave old friends there o/ Elf, etc.
lol and
Originally by: umop 3pisdn Also for the ill informed, Goodfellas are not GBC anymore, so its not a victory for MAX at all as the stations are going to another hostile entity.
lol.
As independent as the other 16+ GBC alliances?
is this an nc member complaining about numbers?i might just be tired but lulz tbh
Lol, no. I just forgot to add Tri. But who cares about numbers? Do you? /
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Jebidus Skari
Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.25 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
That's what I was thinking...where is my invite...and my titan?!!?!?
Lol Wes im getting confused of which corp your actually in..You change so much but then talk liek your in another corp 
But anyways im sure we took O-2 by ourselves with a little help from Axe, but thats it most of the time it was just us, sometimes against Pure only, a few times with NC, thats why it took so long. The Yo Yoing POS repairs etc was the problem :)
So good fights all around, and a damn good job by 'ourselves'
I dont like Pure but thats probably down to egomaniacs like Drantis not the people in the alliance...However it would be shame for an entity thats been around for so long to completely die..
Good luck...
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Endeva
Caldari Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.25 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 25/09/2008 13:20:08 no more G0DS posts pls.
we are only in love with tri.
edit: gl to pure some nice guys there.
someone lock the thread.
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
That's what I was thinking...where is my invite...and my titan?!!?!?
[obligatory] In my pants! [/obligatory]
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.25 14:16:00 -
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If it were only BoB attacking one alliance would the NC have behaved any differently?
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Absu Tagari
Gates of Valhalla
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: NAT Mav
Originally by: Absu Tagari The best solution that I can think of is to change the layout of 0.0. All pipes should go through NPC 0.0 space with the conquerable space branching out of NPC 0.0 (oh the joy to the pirates! Make 0.0 entities form convoys to move supplies.
That's actually a good idea, but I can't see CCP basically redesigning the whole map to do it. Having empire surrounded entirely by lowsec, and then lowsec surrounded by NPC sov 0.0, which is then surrounded by conquerable 0.0 would be an ideal configuration, with increasing rewards (truesec) as you go farther away from highsec.
It would make logistics more difficult and give smaller groups an avenue to make an impact on larger alliances as they travel. As it stands now, some alliances can setup a jump bridge network 1 jump out of highsec and as long as they make the first jump, they can travel in relative safety all the way to their destination.
To balance the problem of chokepoints and prevent camping 1 gate to cut off an entire region, there would need to be multiple links between neighboring regions though.
Been thinking on it more and more, expect to see a thread on it soon.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 25/09/2008 16:03:30
Originally by: Aales Eae
Originally by: Lord WarATron Can the pure guys who sold Titan's to my alliance mates also sell me one? I promise not to tell any of your nc friends.
Just wait until they go inactive for a little while and lend their titan to someone. You BNC guys are great at ripping off your buddies you've flown with for over 5 years.
No point really. Its easier and quicker to buy Supercaps from NC alliances, since almost all NC alliances have plenty of people that are happy to build supercaps from members efforts and sell them on to their enemies. I assume the ordinary NC member get their cut for their contribution of course.  --
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 25/09/2008 16:49:41
Yawn. Nothing specific to the NC ofcourse ofcourse except the moronic comments we get for it. All sides have supercaps built that are sold for profit and that end up on the other side.
Oh and Waratron if this is some kinda old and tired record like you normally repeat about members and abuse of them then I can safely say that RZR and their corps work the same way Dian told everyone BOB works when it comes to logistics and helping with ships. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Omeega
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Endeva ...
Well, so much for the "we don't want territorial wars nor 0.0 conquerable presence, it would just destroy our gameplay" moto.
Good luck Endeva, I hope you still know how POS work ;)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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CCP Mitnal
C C P

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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:52:00 -
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Locked.
User request.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang |
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