Is it against the EULA to tell other players to attack another player?
Is it against the EULA to tell other players to send messages to other players? Do we not usually tell people to simply ignore those they don't wish to speak to?

How can the motivation or intentions of these actions change wheter or not they're a bannable offense? Will the GMs read minds to figure out who is actually trying to harm their opponents? Why are we condemning someone for asking his spacefriends to engage in the very core concepts of EVE Online, destroying other players?

Why? Because he might have had sinister intentions (Despite how this portion was clearly a drunken remark, a joke)?

I am going to respond to you as you would respond to me if I came here and whined about anything....



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How did I do?

Coordinated long-term harassment against a single player, for the purpose of ruining their game experience is bannable.

Mittani advocated for that.

Is that really so hard to understand?

Coordinated long-term harassment against a single player, for the purpose of ruining their game experience is bannable.

How do you define that? The so called purpose lies entirely in the motivation of the player conducting the "harassment". The purpose might as well be "having fun". Again, Thought Police 2012?

We all (Well those of us who play EVE Online as opposed to LvL 4s Online) regularly target specific players and grief them until their ingame achievements are completely ruined. Null sec mechanics are literally built on this principle.

How do you define that? The so called purpose lies entirely in the motivation of the player conducting the "harassment". The purpose might as well be "having fun". Again, Thought Police 2012?

We all (Well those of us who play EVE Online as opposed to LvL 4s Online) regularly target specific players and grief them until their ingame achievements are completely ruined. Null sec mechanics are literally built on this principle.

Way to miss the planetary-sized point that just lumbered past your cabbage patch.

Some of us who play eve-online, as opposed to whatever you believe you're playing, think that publicly harassing another player at a CCP sponsored event and encouraging others to do so, in the belief that said players mental state might well cause him to commit suicide, isn't 'fun'.

The very fact that the Mittani saw fit to apolgise would indicate he didn't think so either and for my part I thought he was sincere.

He apologised, we all move on and you park your griefer mentality somewhere warm.

Null sec is business. There's money in those moons and if someone's in your way, you have a reason to kill them.

A random miner having a 1.1 bil out-of-game bounty for no reason other than it's funny to **** them over? That's a whole other story.

Way to miss the planetary-sized point that just lumbered past your cabbage patch.

Some of us who play eve-online, as opposed to whatever you believe you're playing, think that publicly harassing another player at a CCP sponsored event and encouraging others to do so, in the belief that said players mental state might well cause him to commit suicide, isn't 'fun'.

The very fact that the Mittani saw fit to apolgise would indicate he didn't think so either and for my part I thought he was sincere.

The fact people think most eve players are sociopaths is an image crafted by the people supporting the mittani and the mittani himself. Yet most of the players never bother anyone and are happy just doing their own thing.

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Who are you to dictate what reasons I'm allowed to have for engaging in any form of gameplay? Again, Thought Police 2012?

So now we can't post EVE Mails or bad fits and laugh at them, just in case the so called "victim" might be mentally unstable? You didn't clearly address my original post either so I can't comment on that.

Here's the thing though, EVE is EVE because it allows it, because it's a sandbox. There would not be 7 years of growth if it wasn't. On the other hand the Space Barbie expansion probably would've been more well recieved.

Who are you to dictate what reasons I'm allowed to have for engaging in any form of gameplay? Again, Thought Police 2012?

Its hard to address your original point in the context of the Mittani and his actions because they have sweet fa to do with each other.

Translation: Sandbox is whatever i say it is.

I also decide what the sandbox is. Deal with it.

Both US and Icelandic law?

Is it against the EULA to tell other players to attack another player?
Is it against the EULA to tell other players to send messages to other players? Do we not usually tell people to simply ignore those they don't wish to speak to?

How can the motivation or intentions of these actions change wheter or not they're a bannable offense? Will the GMs read minds to figure out who is actually trying to harm their opponents? Why are we condemning someone for asking his spacefriends to engage in the very core concepts of EVE Online, destroying other players?

Why? Because he might have had sinister intentions (Despite how this portion was clearly a drunken remark, a joke)? Thought Police 2012?

Wow, really guy? If you dont get it now, I dont think we can help ya. You might as well go back to WoW.

If you had a brother/sister or whatever that played EVE and Mitanni stated that he wanted to make them commit suicide in public for the whole EVE world and MMO world to see/read, what would you do? Laugh it off and say "HAHAH, thats EVE for ya!"?

Is it against the EULA to tell other players to attack another player?
Is it against the EULA to tell other players to send messages to other players? Do we not usually tell people to simply ignore those they don't wish to speak to?

How can the motivation or intentions of these actions change wheter or not they're a bannable offense? Will the GMs read minds to figure out who is actually trying to harm their opponents? Why are we condemning someone for asking his spacefriends to engage in the very core concepts of EVE Online, destroying other players?

Why? Because he might have had sinister intentions (Despite how this portion was clearly a drunken remark, a joke)? Thought Police 2012?

Wow, really guy? If you dont get it now, I dont think we can help ya. You might as well go back to WoW.

If you had a brother/sister or whatever that played EVE and Mitanni stated that he wanted to make them commit suicide in public for the whole EVE world and MMO world to see/read, what would you do? Laugh it off and say "HAHAH, thats EVE for ya!"?

he openly suggested that other people write letters to convince someone to commit suicide.

If your a goon and goon pet it is apparently.

Coordinated long-term harassment against a single player, for the purpose of getting him to kill himself is bannable.

Mittani advocated for that.

If your a goon and goon pet it is apparently.

I'd love to see you bring that to court. "They killed him in a video game, they're responsible for his suicide. Lethal Injection sir, I call for the death penalty".

That never happened, on camera at least.

GÇ£if you want to make the guy go kill himself, his name is [[REDACTED]], itGÇÖs [[NAME SPELLED OUT]]GǪ He has his own corp. Find him.GÇ¥

You can look it up if you want. No matter what media, harassment is harassment and the person is responsible for his actions. Blowing up a spaceship isn't harassment. Telling a group of people to harass someone into suicide is.

Are you dense or something? This is an easy concept.

Again, watch the stream or read the quote. He never told a group of people to do anything. "If you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is X, find him" does not equate to harassing someone, to telling anyone to harass someone, or anything even remotely close to that.

Again, if you read between the lines the furthest you could go is that he encouraged someone to blow up spaceships or possibly message the player . As you said, not illegal. And as I said, not against the EULA.


Throwing someone under the bus to save your dirty corporate face is something we usually dislike, but because it happened to a much disputed public figure people embraced it and even championed it as the rightful thing to do. Despicable.