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Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:13:00 -
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From this link skip to 5.50. He talks about burn jita. It will happen 28th april and he said they will need 1800 tornados. that means it will take 14400 guns the biggest artillery and 7200 gyrostabilzers. if there rigged 5400 damage rigs. Dont know about mid slots theres 5 so maybe 1800 disrupter and 7200 senor boosters. Thats what they think they need and if it goes on longer they will need more. That just goons if other people join in like test it will be more. Can the market support that or will prices spike little/lot? How many ganks till the price goes up?
They want to kill all freighter so will they go down cuz no one will use them and sell them off? Maybe people will get ganked and have to rebuy and put the price up more. Other effects will t1 indy and transport ship be left alone so become more popular? more demand in ship and fit maybe.
overall market effect will the prices go high less stock coming in or fall cuz no one buys there cuz cant move the item out? Will other market hubs see more demand? |

Lord Aliventi
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:26:00 -
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Chances are Goons already have the 1800 tornados fit and ready to roll. |

Dan Osiris
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:27:00 -
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yep. its already covered.
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Vince Snetterton
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:48:00 -
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I would expect there to be some uptick since it sounds like they are ramping up now, after listening to the goon leader's audio post.
My question is do they plan a one day siege of Jita, or something longer term? I doubt 1800 ships will last more than a day or so if they are intent on savaging every freighter.
Then again, the threat alone may be enough to reduce heavy traffic to a trickle starting on the 28th, which dramatically lowers their attrition rate.
I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe. But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible. |

Pippgirl
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:06:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:I I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe. But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible.
We're not looking at goons alone here, but the entire CFC. That's 22.000 accounts plus. The plan according to the speech was to burn down Raiden and NC. first. Also, their homeland is but a clonejump away in case anything happens. Even if something happened, it would be easily fixable.
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Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:17:00 -
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Every 0.0 player has at least one clone in high sec. I would take this serious. Another question is, will this have an impact at all? Even when there are many pilots not aware of their environment, most of the pilots will avoid Jita for a day or 2.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:59:00 -
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Pippgirl wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:I I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe. But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible. We're not looking at goons alone here, but the entire CFC. That's 22.000 accounts plus. The plan according to the speech was to burn down Raiden and NC. first. Also, their homeland is but a clonejump away in case anything happens. Even if something happened, it would be easily fixable.
I think everyone will come and join the party...its war on high sec. Jita will burn |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:28:00 -
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I say everyone avoid Jita then..........watch the Blue-Ball Effect really get the Goons going. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Isonda
The Candiru None Of The Above
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:04:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:Every 0.0 player has at least one clone in high sec. I would take this serious. Another question is, will this have an impact at all? Even when there are many pilots not aware of their environment, most of the pilots will avoid Jita for a day or 2.
Do you think this will last 1-2 days? Do you think most high-sec people will understand this?
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I say everyone avoid Jita then..........watch the Blue-Ball Effect really get the Goons going. 
This will be victory, you do understand that, right?
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:06:00 -
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could you be a doll and start building some tornados and putting them on the jita market
thanks toots |
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:06:00 -
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the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks |

Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:50:00 -
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Im gonna take my ibis and shoot at all the reds. It will be a fun day! |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:51:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks
That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
111
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:53:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp.
I can't believe people still believe this.  |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:55:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Katarina Reid wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp. I can't believe people still believe this. 
so u dont have alot of new players join goons? link
u putting the new guys in destroyers or using meta? |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
112
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:56:00 -
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We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers. |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:57:00 -
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corestwo wrote:We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers. so alot of thrasher and fits will get used? |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.03.29 18:37:00 -
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do you see any thrasher guns left on the market? |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
112
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Posted - 2012.03.29 18:42:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:corestwo wrote:We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers. so alot of thrasher and fits will get used?
Assuming Sony doesn't cry to CCP to intervene because of potentially bad PR from the inevitable whining, sure. |

Alain Kinsella
98
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:15:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:Will other market hubs see more demand?
If the casual buyers are smart, they already moved to another hub long ago. If not, they'll learn awful fast.
My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status).
@ corestwo - valid point. My previous experience with SL makes me think (if Sony was behind some of this) that you're in for an interesting time. GL with your guys efforts, I had enough of that back with y'all in SL so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn this time.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
797
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:13:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote: My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status).
My hope as well. Jita has too much weight in the current economy. So much that I'm surprised CCP hasn't slapped a 0.5% transaction tax on top of existing fees in Jita as an ISK sink and to encourage some movement out of Jita.
If the Goons can hit Jita for 2-4 weeks straight, the tears will not only be epic, but it will encourage players to spread out once again and not all flock to Jita to sell. I do wish them luck in that endeavor.
Healthier secondary trade hubs means more niches for the smaller traders to get a foothold into the market. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:39:00 -
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If trade becomes dispersed, it will only be temporary. Market forces will consolidate commerce somewhere. |

Alain Kinsella
98
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:50:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote: Jita has too much weight in the current economy. So much that I'm surprised CCP hasn't slapped a 0.5% transaction tax on top of existing fees in Jita as an ISK sink and to encourage some movement out of Jita.
Due to how the remote trade skills work, you'd really have to do that at the region level to be most effective (since just taxing Jita would change focus to constellation level).
@ OfBalance - While that may still happen long-term, the hope is to lessen Jita's effects a bit, by making people more comfortable in working out of another hub.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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DoraTheExplora Taft
The Management.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:36:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:Katarina Reid wrote:Will other market hubs see more demand? If the casual buyers are smart, they already moved to another hub long ago. If not, they'll learn awful fast. My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status). @ corestwo - valid point. My previous experience with SL makes me think (if Sony was behind some of this) that you're in for an interesting time. GL with your guys efforts, I had enough of that back with y'all in SL so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn this time. Jita's power is in a belief. A belief that if you want to process transactions quickly and with as high volume as possible than jita will always be best. If this ever becomes untrue for long enough to destroy that faith then anything could happen. Somehow I doubt this event has the power to do that. |

Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:59:00 -
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Jita is a powerful beast. Taking it down, even a peg, is no easy task for any group. Might slow it down for a short period, though. |

avatar rayne
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:18:00 -
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ummmmmm 75% of jita is docked you fools!!!! |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
808
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Posted - 2012.03.31 03:38:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote: Due to how the remote trade skills work, you'd really have to do that at the region level to be most effective (since just taxing Jita would change focus to constellation level).
Or 0.5% in Jita, decreasing at 0.1% every jump away from Jita.
Spreading out the sell / buy orders over the entire constellation would not be a bad goal either. It would make the market slightly less efficient, which would mean more niches for the smaller traders. |

Mookie Quantico
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:10:00 -
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LET IT BURN !
C'mon guys... you have to admit watching JITA go into something like 10% TiDi will be hilarious... nevermind the Goons and associates... but all the Concord that will spawn to utterly bog down things... !
Serious player driven content... you folks should be jumping in with both feet ! ! ! 
Mook
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Green EyedDragon
Ad Infinitum Inc. Lemniskate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 11:02:00 -
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Okay so i am a relatively NEW player to eve but i know what to do and what not to do and even Being 4 months old in eve have heard about the Power that goonswarm holds so for however long Hulkageddon AND jita burn goes for i will be safely tucked away in some ass ends of nowhere System Green!! RLW |

Krevnos
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.04.21 11:17:00 -
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Ha ha as if "Burn Jita" is going to have any significant effect on the trading hub status of the system itself.
I for one am going to be flying tanked Itty 5's around Jita all day. Bring it on, I say!!!  |
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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
173
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:59:00 -
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I have a coalition of angry bears who will be bringing upwards of 300 BattleBadgers to the event. Should be fun. |

MushroomMushroom
Consolidated Sprocket
30
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:11:00 -
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Any tax mechanic aimed at Jita would need to by dynamic, otherwise the trade would just centralize on an alternative hub (say Amarr). As for the goon interdiction, it will have a negligible long term effect on Jita as a whole, will have a moderate to large short term impact on the markets for certain goods, but will generate EPIC quantities of tears. |

Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:32:00 -
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We don't need to think about Jita, because as long as we have those medivial region borders we will get a new Jita. Jita exists because of a lack of information. Jita gives us a good global price level on most products.
Those regions borders are an result of former technological problem, but since CCP moved the market of Jita to a dedicated server CCP should have no problems to get rid of the region borders. |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:41:00 -
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You could add taxes with increased pilots in a single station, as the station fills it will require more maintenance etc. the more a station fills the more transaction taxes are heaped upon them along with possible low mission rewards in some hubs. Forcing everyone to spread out more / evenly. -á |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
884
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Posted - 2012.04.21 21:49:00 -
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Nomad I wrote: Those regions borders are an result of former technological problem, but since CCP moved the market of Jita to a dedicated server CCP should have no problems to get rid of the region borders.
Regional borders are a boon to the younger / smaller traders. Without regional borders, Jita would pretty much dominate the landscape (even more then today). Perfect information is the enemy of good game play as it lets the larger fish crowd out the smaller fish.
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Dead Loss
Sweet Capsuleer Tears
33
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Posted - 2012.04.22 07:18:00 -
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Jita is THE place you want to be on that day.
Anyone saying "avoid Jita" has failed to understand what is going to happen.
And I am talking about market. Not combat. |

Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
17
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Posted - 2012.04.22 10:05:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:Katarina Reid wrote:Will other market hubs see more demand? If the casual buyers are smart, they already moved to another hub long ago. If not, they'll learn awful fast. My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status). @ corestwo - valid point. My previous experience with SL makes me think (if Sony was behind some of this) that you're in for an interesting time. GL with your guys efforts, I had enough of that back with y'all in SL so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn this time.
Just a small comment on this one. I think it would be worth a look from ccp side to rebalance the general markets.
My suggestion would be they make one station which is scc and thus neutral in each of the primary and secondary hubs in the entire universe. So 8 new stations. Then link the benefits directly to trade skills and not faction standing.
amarr-and-gallente
caldari-and-minmatar
I think the general idea of Burn Jita is a very interesting piece of player created content. The goons are def "creating" the game, while occasionally destroying it for individuals and groups. I would just like if there was more like this on smaller scales and "ongoing"... Hopefully some of the new ballancings and fixing aggression might help with that..
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clixor
Celluloid Gurus
3
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Posted - 2012.04.22 11:18:00 -
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Dead Loss wrote:Jita is THE place you want to be on that day.
Anyone saying "avoid Jita" has failed to understand what is going to happen.
And I am talking about market. Not combat.
There's only so much stuff which can be 'swapped' between traders. Eventually you'll need consumers. So imo other hubs are more interesting after a few days. I wouldn't be surprised if the goonz have anticipated this and have stocks in the secundary hubs (that's what i would do at least). |

Prophet Avater
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
0
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Posted - 2012.04.23 13:31:00 -
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There is always a chance it will cause some discomfort for traders, I expect it to spike prices, for it to be effective It can't be for 1 day maybe a few weeks or goons can just attack at random. |

Lauzejs
Caldari Enclave Navy
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:00:00 -
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10xbeers check, popcorn.... errr 10x beer check 30" screen check, cloaked ship check, JC in highsec check, free weekend check, I say let it burn i want see all the tears in local and everywere else in jita  |
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Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
213
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Posted - 2012.04.25 09:34:00 -
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Burn Jita will not be a success in my eyes unless the number of rage/qq posts in local exceeds the number of scam posts. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:49:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:Burn Jita will not be a success in my eyes unless the number of rage/qq posts in local exceeds the number of scam posts.
This wont be a problem |

Capt NoeZ
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:51:00 -
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Goons will burn in Jita. |

Lutin Ballista
Paladin Philanthropists Blue Nation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:27:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:[quote=Alain Kinsella]
Healthier secondary trade hubs means more niches for the smaller traders to get a foothold into the market.
Or more reasons for the big traders to move in and crush all the little people |

Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
34
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:29:00 -
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words words words... Oo |

Itis Zhellin
Vampires of Transilvania
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:53:00 -
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Burning ships and Jita is really good for business, is actually a massive boost to economy,cant wait to see it happen! *gently petting the wallet* I hope is not only a bad joke or bluff, that will badly hurt a lot of business plans. |

Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
6
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:03:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote: It will happen 28th april and he said they will need 1800 tornados....
1,800 Tornados... is this event only going to last a couple of hours?
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Killer Jane
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 23:39:00 -
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Towaoc wrote:Katarina Reid wrote: It will happen 28th april and he said they will need 1800 tornados.... 1,800 Tornados... is this event only going to last a couple of hours?
to convert into some hard numbers
1800 tornados = 150-180 dead freighters 
for smaller stuff... u dont need tornados... |

Nex apparatu5
Nigerian Trust Investments Legitimate Trade Establishments
271
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Posted - 2012.04.27 00:53:00 -
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Towaoc wrote:Katarina Reid wrote: It will happen 28th april and he said they will need 1800 tornados.... 1,800 Tornados... is this event only going to last a couple of hours?
He missed a zero |

Kalli Brixzat
17
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:53:00 -
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Thus far, the only significant effect I've seen is that the market in lonetrek is booming. I'm turning a healthy profit without having to get within 2 jumps of Jita. |
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papamike
Precipice Industries
23
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Posted - 2012.04.29 09:30:00 -
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Interestingly we are still seeing a sharp drop in mineral prices, so station traders are still confident and happy to continue business as usual despite any nice fireworks display going on outside the undock. |

Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
442
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Posted - 2012.04.29 09:58:00 -
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papamike wrote:Interestingly we are still seeing a sharp drop in mineral prices, so station traders are still confident and happy to continue business as usual despite any nice fireworks display going on outside the undock.
Volume of those mins moved per day has dropped sharply over the past two days. Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |

Zack Sibiro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 13:32:00 -
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Riley Moore wrote:papamike wrote:Interestingly we are still seeing a sharp drop in mineral prices, so station traders are still confident and happy to continue business as usual despite any nice fireworks display going on outside the undock. Volume of those mins moved per day has dropped sharply over the past two days.
Volumes decreased not only for minerals, but also for a lot of other industrialists goods (especially small ones, i.e. freighter-transferred). As of ammunition, the numbers are a bit controversal. It seems that some usual freights were at least postponed.
+ please bear in mind that several countries have a public holiday and long weekend (time for travel and IRL fun). |

Thorpeykins Domokins
Penguin Brigade Imperial Hull Tankers
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 15:49:00 -
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Burn Jita isn't working so far, I'm still easily selling stuff in the station as people continue to buy regularly. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
211
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Posted - 2012.04.29 16:00:00 -
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Zack Sibiro wrote:Riley Moore wrote:papamike wrote:Interestingly we are still seeing a sharp drop in mineral prices, so station traders are still confident and happy to continue business as usual despite any nice fireworks display going on outside the undock. Volume of those mins moved per day has dropped sharply over the past two days. Volumes decreased not only for minerals, but also for a lot of other industrialists goods (especially small ones, i.e. freighter-transferred). As of ammunition, the numbers are a bit controversal. It seems that some usual freights were at least postponed. + please bear in mind that several countries have a public holiday and long weekend (time for travel and IRL fun).
The holidays are meaningless. As an indicator, here is Zydrine these past few days, with a few days beforehand as comparison. http://i.imgur.com/MCTpq.png
And here is Zydrine around Christmas 2011. http://i.imgur.com/2MEVk.png A large drop, sure, but a single day, despite the fact that many would be traveling before & after.
Memorial day. http://i.imgur.com/Rm0tD.png A popular travel holiday in the USA. No drop whatsoever.
Thorpeykins Domokins wrote:Burn Jita isn't working so far, I'm still easily selling stuff in the station as people continue to buy regularly. So you're one of the idiot clowns who read about burn jita and decided that our goal was to completely shut down all traffic then? |

Lord Angelus Mortis
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 16:26:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Zack Sibiro wrote:Riley Moore wrote:papamike wrote:Interestingly we are still seeing a sharp drop in mineral prices, so station traders are still confident and happy to continue business as usual despite any nice fireworks display going on outside the undock. Volume of those mins moved per day has dropped sharply over the past two days. Volumes decreased not only for minerals, but also for a lot of other industrialists goods (especially small ones, i.e. freighter-transferred). As of ammunition, the numbers are a bit controversal. It seems that some usual freights were at least postponed. + please bear in mind that several countries have a public holiday and long weekend (time for travel and IRL fun). The holidays are meaningless. As an indicator, here is Zydrine these past few days, with a few days beforehand as comparison. http://i.imgur.com/MCTpq.pngAnd here is Zydrine around Christmas 2011. http://i.imgur.com/2MEVk.pngA large drop, sure, but a single day, despite the fact that many would be traveling before & after. Memorial day. http://i.imgur.com/Rm0tD.pngA popular travel holiday in the USA. No drop whatsoever. Thorpeykins Domokins wrote:Burn Jita isn't working so far, I'm still easily selling stuff in the station as people continue to buy regularly. So you're one of the idiot clowns who read about burn jita and decided that our goal was to completely shut down all traffic then?
If anything the price spikes will happen once over, orders are down almost a third, with volume dropping even less, all the people who were going to buy will most likely do so once Jita is normal again. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
211
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Posted - 2012.04.29 16:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Exactly. There's all kinds of pent up demand right now, and a probable outcome once people feel like they can start buying again is that the market pops like a zit and we get a few days of 2-3x normal volume. |

Smoke Adian
14
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Posted - 2012.04.29 17:17:00 -
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Many producers like myself didn't have the isk to stockpile billions of isk worth of minerals/components to keep the assembly lines going or they were too conservative to gamble on committing a weeks worth of resources to a certain item that may no longer be profitable whenever Burn Jita ends.
The end result is that our goods that finished during Burn Jita are sitting in a station somewhere waiting to be hauled into Jita for sale. Once this happens I think we'll see a huge run on components and minerals as everyone buys up stock to ship back to their production homes for their next production cycle. Freight services are going to be absolutely blasted in the days following Burn Jita.
As an example of how the market has been effected, in the T2 component I'm currently selling, volume dropped to 740 yesterday compared to it's normal range of around 2000-4000. However, it's back up to normal numbers today as everyone starts to chatter about Burn Jita being over. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
220
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:17:00 -
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CFC spent approximately 182 billion isk and achieved approximately 515b isk in damage. These numbers are from eve-kill and are somewhat corrected where necessary - for example, eve-kill undervalues freighters and significantly undervalues jump freighters. There were also the usual "were those BPOs or BPCs?" that had to be accounted for - I'm sure everyone saw the infamous half trillion isk freighter, although it's now been API corrected and the 200 covertor prints are now copies.
A brief breakdown by ship types.
26 Exhumers. This counts only ones killed in and immediately around Jita. 57 Freighters. Freighters accounted for the lion's share of destruction - a total of 258.5 billion isk. 14 Jump Freighters 97 Tech 1 industrials. This category includes Noctii, of which quite a few died. The average loss of a kill in this category was 157.8 million isk. 25 Tech 2 industrials. The average loss of a kill in THIS category was 495.9 million isk, over three times that of Tech 1 indies, although it was surely skewed upwards by this fellow. 24 battleships. Most of these were war targets, but there were four people flying around in pimped out faction battleships, as well as one pilot who tried a supertanked abaddon to move his LP store loot. 7 pilots of Tech 3 ships were killed. All were war targets; one also lost his 2b isk Slave implanted pod. A total of 428 implanted pods died, approximately 50.3 billion worth. The average cost of a pod was 117.5 million isk; the most expensive pod was this guy, who's freighter was one of our less notable kills. Maybe he thought the slave set would keep him intact; unfortunately for him, we're not Niarja gankers out to maximize profit and thus overkill was the name of the game. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.05.02 16:23:00 -
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Here's your burn jita market effect. |
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2012.05.02 17:29:00 -
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Obviously you can tell from the label on that graph that what you are seeing was caused by "Escalation" on April 24th. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.05.02 17:32:00 -
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Troll bait status: Unsuccessful. |

Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2012.05.02 17:44:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Troll bait status: Unsuccessful. Labels don't lie. |
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