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Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:13:00 -
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From this link skip to 5.50. He talks about burn jita. It will happen 28th april and he said they will need 1800 tornados. that means it will take 14400 guns the biggest artillery and 7200 gyrostabilzers. if there rigged 5400 damage rigs. Dont know about mid slots theres 5 so maybe 1800 disrupter and 7200 senor boosters. Thats what they think they need and if it goes on longer they will need more. That just goons if other people join in like test it will be more. Can the market support that or will prices spike little/lot? How many ganks till the price goes up?
They want to kill all freighter so will they go down cuz no one will use them and sell them off? Maybe people will get ganked and have to rebuy and put the price up more. Other effects will t1 indy and transport ship be left alone so become more popular? more demand in ship and fit maybe.
overall market effect will the prices go high less stock coming in or fall cuz no one buys there cuz cant move the item out? Will other market hubs see more demand? |
Lord Aliventi
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:26:00 -
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Chances are Goons already have the 1800 tornados fit and ready to roll. |
Dan Osiris
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:27:00 -
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yep. its already covered.
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Vince Snetterton
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:48:00 -
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I would expect there to be some uptick since it sounds like they are ramping up now, after listening to the goon leader's audio post.
My question is do they plan a one day siege of Jita, or something longer term?
I doubt 1800 ships will last more than a day or so if they are intent on savaging every freighter.
Then again, the threat alone may be enough to reduce heavy traffic to a trickle starting on the 28th, which dramatically lowers their attrition rate.
I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe.
But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible. |
Pippgirl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:06:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:I
I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe.
But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible.
We're not looking at goons alone here, but the entire CFC. That's 22.000 accounts plus.
The plan according to the speech was to burn down Raiden and NC. first. Also, their homeland is but a clonejump away in case anything happens. Even if something happened, it would be easily fixable.
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Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:17:00 -
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Every 0.0 player has at least one clone in high sec. I would take this serious. Another question is, will this have an impact at all? Even when there are many pilots not aware of their environment, most of the pilots will avoid Jita for a day or 2.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:59:00 -
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Pippgirl wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:I
I hate these guys, but I recognize their power. But can even a 8000 strong alliance guys project power into Jita plus defend their own null sec turf for more than a few days? If they get Test, another 6000 strong to help, maybe.
But It will be an interesting to see if it is possible. We're not looking at goons alone here, but the entire CFC. That's 22.000 accounts plus. The plan according to the speech was to burn down Raiden and NC. first. Also, their homeland is but a clonejump away in case anything happens. Even if something happened, it would be easily fixable.
I think everyone will come and join the party...its war on high sec. Jita will burn |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:28:00 -
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I say everyone avoid Jita then..........watch the Blue-Ball Effect really get the Goons going.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Isonda
The Candiru
None Of The Above
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:04:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:Every 0.0 player has at least one clone in high sec. I would take this serious. Another question is, will this have an impact at all? Even when there are many pilots not aware of their environment, most of the pilots will avoid Jita for a day or 2.
Do you think this will last 1-2 days?
Do you think most high-sec people will understand this?
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I say everyone avoid Jita then..........watch the Blue-Ball Effect really get the Goons going.
This will be victory, you do understand that, right?
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:06:00 -
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could you be a doll and start building some tornados and putting them on the jita market
thanks toots |
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:06:00 -
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the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks |
Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:50:00 -
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Im gonna take my ibis and shoot at all the reds. It will be a fun day! |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:51:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks
That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
111
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:53:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp.
I can't believe people still believe this.  |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:55:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Katarina Reid wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the guns too, don't forget those sweet cheeks That would be 1400 artys but will the T2 get used more cuz of more damage and can train it by 28th. would the 1400 scout get used more cuz alot of goons are low sp. I can't believe people still believe this.
so u dont have alot of new players join goons? link
u putting the new guys in destroyers or using meta? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
112
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:56:00 -
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We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers. |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:57:00 -
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corestwo wrote:We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers.
so alot of thrasher and fits will get used? |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.03.29 18:37:00 -
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do you see any thrasher guns left on the market? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
112
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Posted - 2012.03.29 18:42:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:corestwo wrote:We have many new players. We also have many many old players. The newbies can fly thrashers. so alot of thrasher and fits will get used?
Assuming Sony doesn't cry to CCP to intervene because of potentially bad PR from the inevitable whining, sure. |
Alain Kinsella
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:15:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:Will other market hubs see more demand?
If the casual buyers are smart, they already moved to another hub long ago. If not, they'll learn awful fast.
My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status).
@ corestwo - valid point. My previous experience with SL makes me think (if Sony was behind some of this) that you're in for an interesting time. GL with your guys efforts, I had enough of that back with y'all in SL so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn this time.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
797
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:13:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:
My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status).
My hope as well. Jita has too much weight in the current economy. So much that I'm surprised CCP hasn't slapped a 0.5% transaction tax on top of existing fees in Jita as an ISK sink and to encourage some movement out of Jita.
If the Goons can hit Jita for 2-4 weeks straight, the tears will not only be epic, but it will encourage players to spread out once again and not all flock to Jita to sell. I do wish them luck in that endeavor.
Healthier secondary trade hubs means more niches for the smaller traders to get a foothold into the market. |
OfBalance
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:39:00 -
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If trade becomes dispersed, it will only be temporary. Market forces will consolidate commerce somewhere. |
Alain Kinsella
98
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:50:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Jita has too much weight in the current economy. So much that I'm surprised CCP hasn't slapped a 0.5% transaction tax on top of existing fees in Jita as an ISK sink and to encourage some movement out of Jita.
Due to how the remote trade skills work, you'd really have to do that at the region level to be most effective (since just taxing Jita would change focus to constellation level).
@ OfBalance - While that may still happen long-term, the hope is to lessen Jita's effects a bit, by making people more comfortable in working out of another hub.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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DoraTheExplora Taft
The Management.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:36:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:Katarina Reid wrote:Will other market hubs see more demand? If the casual buyers are smart, they already moved to another hub long ago. If not, they'll learn awful fast. My personal hope is that Jita just becomes another hub - all four becoming more equal to each other (yes, I'm implying that Dodixie finally gets first-class status). @ corestwo - valid point. My previous experience with SL makes me think (if Sony was behind some of this) that you're in for an interesting time. GL with your guys efforts, I had enough of that back with y'all in SL so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn this time.
Jita's power is in a belief. A belief that if you want to process transactions quickly and with as high volume as possible than jita will always be best. If this ever becomes untrue for long enough to destroy that faith then anything could happen. Somehow I doubt this event has the power to do that. |
Nub Sauce
State War Academy
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:59:00 -
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Jita is a powerful beast. Taking it down, even a peg, is no easy task for any group. Might slow it down for a short period, though. |
avatar rayne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:18:00 -
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ummmmmm 75% of jita is docked you fools!!!! |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
808
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Posted - 2012.03.31 03:38:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:
Due to how the remote trade skills work, you'd really have to do that at the region level to be most effective (since just taxing Jita would change focus to constellation level).
Or 0.5% in Jita, decreasing at 0.1% every jump away from Jita.
Spreading out the sell / buy orders over the entire constellation would not be a bad goal either. It would make the market slightly less efficient, which would mean more niches for the smaller traders. |
Mookie Quantico
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:10:00 -
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LET IT BURN !
C'mon guys... you have to admit watching JITA go into something like 10% TiDi will be hilarious... nevermind the Goons and associates... but all the Concord that will spawn to utterly bog down things... !
Serious player driven content... you folks should be jumping in with both feet ! ! ! 
Mook
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Green EyedDragon
Ad Infinitum Inc.
Lemniskate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 11:02:00 -
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Okay so i am a relatively NEW player to eve but i know what to do and what not to do and even Being 4 months old in eve have heard about the Power that goonswarm holds so for however long Hulkageddon AND jita burn goes for i will be safely tucked away in some ass ends of nowhere System
Green!! RLW |
Krevnos
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.04.21 11:17:00 -
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Ha ha as if "Burn Jita" is going to have any significant effect on the trading hub status of the system itself.
I for one am going to be flying tanked Itty 5's around Jita all day. Bring it on, I say!!! |
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