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Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.09.27 23:11:00 - [61] The murder apparently happened after this incident, so now can I wish them dead without getting moderated? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.28 21:37:00 - [62] Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know. thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police) ________________________ I'M POOR
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.28 21:39:00 - [63] Originally by: MuffinsRevenger Metal? Hell yeee! this ________________________ I'M POOR
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.09.29 03:32:00 - [64] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know. thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police) I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.09.29 03:36:00 - [65] ******* is a hell of a drug! /seriously? definitely angel dust. i watched a video of a guy (medium size) take out 5 cops (large, in shape cops) in a hallway on that stuff. he put 3 of them in the hospital with serious injuries, nothing they did to subdue him even phased him. ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt!
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.09.29 10:21:00 - [66] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 29/09/2008 10:21:33 Originally by: Wendat Huron The murder apparently happened after this incident, so now can I wish them dead without getting moderated? One of them murdered someone after the fact? WTF!!! How did that happen? Did the cops let them go after these shenanigans? At the least they should have been locked up in a psych ward, for detox and an evaluation, for a week or so. And ditto on the moderation part. Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:32:00 - [67] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know. thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police) I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head. ________________________ I'M POOR
Grimwalius d'Antan Aliastra	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:30:00 - [68] Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =) On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:35:00 - [69] Originally by: Kaeten They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head. Sad thing about that is after spending a couple years in a shooting ranhge, none of the cops that ever came by could ever willingly make a head shot _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:38:00 - [70] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 30/09/2008 20:40:19 ok I'm really confused here. Mostly with a timeline and some facts. This article was posted a few days ago. Watching that video, at the very end, it states one twin recovered after 7 weeks in the hospital. So either this happened earlier than a few days ago or we already know she'll be in good shape in 7 weeks. By the way, the info given in that original BBC link really sucks. No names, no ages, no other info, just that somebody played in traffic. OK, onto part 2: The knife murder. I racked my brain trying to find any info on this and the closest I found was this link and this link. The article is dated August 16th with the attack taking place on May 20th which would put the attack before the highway incident, not after. My 2nd between the 2 articles is that it states the stabbing woman jumps from a bridge on the highway suffering 2 broken ankles and a fractured skull and those lovely crazy ladies looked as healthy as could be to me (before they ran into traffic of course). Am I missing something here or are people getting the stories mixed up due to the myriad of forums all saying the same thing?
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:59:00 - [71] Originally by: Pwett Originally by: Kaeten They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head. Sad thing about that is after spending a couple years in a shooting ranhge, none of the cops that ever came by could ever willingly make a head shot then again, a guy running at you will get closer making the target larger as seconds go by ________________________ I'M POOR
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:12:00 - [72] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. everyone uses a firearm should know this. Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. Lets say a guys high, PCP. He won't feel shit. Your aiming only for his chest, hes 15meters away. he starts running at you with a knife (now if he gets on you you are pretty much a gonner as someone else pointed out that a guy on PCP took out 5 cops etc. I've seen videos of ppl strapped down that actully break their arms and legs trying to get out of their restraints) You turn around grab your gun switch safety off shout a warning, fire a warning shot then start to aim at his chest. How far do you think hes ran by then? Also lets say you get 2-3 rounds off into his chest, you might only hit non-vital organs, meaning he'll still run at you. That's why it's standard in sweden to shoot a warning shot first, then a shot to the cheast, then a shot to the head. If he still runs at you then you pretty much fail lol. Pretty scary shit to be honest. When I was at the Polish÷gskolan (Police Acadamy, only one of these in Sweden) in stockholm training as a Military Police (we were lectured by normal civilian police instructors) we were instructed in ways to deal with this and why etc.. But then again, I can only vouch for Sweden, I'm pretty sure other countries have other ways though. ________________________ I'M POOR
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:41:00 - [73] Another thing I would like to add between the sisters of the traveling crazy and the murder suspect in my linked articles: Sabina Eriksson, aged 40, and murder suspect, is reported to have jumped from a bridge over the A50, fracturing both ankles and skull. Not knowing the terrain I googled mapped it and it looks like the A50 and the M6 run parallel to each other and are just a little over a kilometer apart or so. Also in the murder suspect article I linked it says nothing of there being a second person. Other than this there have been no updates on any news website that I can find about these 2 and you would think that if one was a murder suspect it'd be all over the place.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.30 22:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Another thing I would like to add between the sisters of the traveling crazy and the murder suspect in my linked articles: Sabina Eriksson, aged 40, and murder suspect, is reported to have jumped from a bridge over the A50, fracturing both ankles and skull. Not knowing the terrain I googled mapped it and it looks like the A50 and the M6 run parallel to each other and are just a little over a kilometer apart or so. Also in the murder suspect article I linked it says nothing of there being a second person. Other than this there have been no updates on any news website that I can find about these 2 and you would think that if one was a murder suspect it'd be all over the place. Ahh.. That was an interesting turn of avents. ________________________ I'M POOR
Illwill Bill Minmatar Scandinavian Carebears AB	Posted - 2008.09.30 22:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Rialtor sheesh I'm jealous of swedish people now. You people are like ****roaches, what does it take to kill you if a truck can't. Taxes.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:26:00 - [76] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =) On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This	Posted - 2008.10.01 09:51:00 - [77] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =) On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints. No, it's more that if the situation has escalated where you have to kill someone, they have ignored all warnings to stop and are either crazy or just plain stupid. Provided there is good oversight to stop police from just unloading on people for no good reasons, I'm fine with them killing suspects. Citizens seems to have the idea that all people can and should be reasoned with, eve when it endangers everyone around them. Sometimes, this is plainly false.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:27:00 - [78] Originally by: Mr Friendly Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =) On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints. No, it's more that if the situation has escalated where you have to kill someone, they have ignored all warnings to stop and are either crazy or just plain stupid. Provided there is good oversight to stop police from just unloading on people for no good reasons, I'm fine with them killing suspects. Citizens seems to have the idea that all people can and should be reasoned with, eve when it endangers everyone around them. Sometimes, this is plainly false. Again, around here it isn't a capital offense to be mentally ill, in fact it is a mitigating circumstance as it is in most civilized nations where the 'crazy' people are held to another standard. Most people lose their fighting spirit equally being shot in the leg or the chest. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Grimwalius d'Antan Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:34:00 - [79] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head. I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =) On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints. Neutralize, not immobilize. A man that's dead or too injured to be a threat is neutralized. However, a gun is a method of lethal force. There are alternatives and intentionally using a gun to neutralize a threat in a non-lethal fashion is like trying to pull a trailer full of timber in a Ferrari. And the Ferrari is on fire while doing so. I think there are only a few uses of guns and that is to intimidate and to kill. If you shoot someone and they live but can no longer fight, that's fortunate, but you shouldn't try and accomplish this consistently. Use a taser or mace if you think there is a reasonable chance to neutralize a threat with those tools. I believe the use of hollow point ammunition was to prevent over penetration as the reason given by the Swedish police. FMJ can easily cut straight through the flesh and exit in an uncontrolled fashion. The wound is also relatively mild and therefore less effective. Hollow point ammunition opens up like a flower and cause much more grievous wounds, but as the bullet is deformed it slows itself down, staying inside the body. Whatever ammunition you use, the decision to pull the trigger is the last and most absolute one. If you do not intend to kill, you use other tools that are meant for non-lethal force. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not.
Caesar Khan	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:53:00 - [80] Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41 That last run infront of the lorry was an obvious suicide attempt.Look how she looks at the lorry when she runs out and gets hit 10 secs later.These girls are obviously mentally ill,just like every swede i know Just kidding! Good looking though and since they are twins and suicidle im sure they would have agreed to a 3 way
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.01 11:09:00 - [81] Originally by: Caesar Khan Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41 That last run infront of the lorry was an obvious suicide attempt.Look how she looks at the lorry when she runs out and gets hit 10 secs later.These girls are obviously mentally ill,just like every swede i know Just kidding! Good looking though and since they are twins and suicidle im sure they would have agreed to a 3 way During which they'd cut you to pieces.
Caesar Khan	Posted - 2008.10.01 11:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Caesar Khan Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41 During which they'd cut you to pieces. Mmmmm..That would have been spasmtastic!!hehehe!

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