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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ombey on 26/09/2008 11:19:45 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm
  -- 2d EveMaps My blog
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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:20:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Ombey on 26/09/2008 11:19:45 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm
  -- 2d EveMaps My blog
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Stevie mcStepherson
Tag-UR-It Developments
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:22:00 -
[3]
Watched the full program on Iplayer.... Pure Crazy!
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Stevie mcStepherson
Tag-UR-It Developments
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:22:00 -
[4]
Watched the full program on Iplayer.... Pure Crazy!
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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:26:00 -
[5]
Full footage is on YouTube, but don't read the comments- you'll be considerably dumber when you're finished. -- 2d EveMaps My blog
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Znaei
Caldari Adult Entertainment
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:26:00 -
[6]
Thats truly crazy! 
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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:26:00 -
[7]
Full footage is on YouTube, but don't read the comments- you'll be considerably dumber when you're finished. -- 2d EveMaps My blog
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Znaei
Caldari Adult Entertainment
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:26:00 -
[8]
Thats truly crazy! 
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Terail Zoqial
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:28:00 -
[9]
Wtf??, what is the story behind this, why the hell were they trying to get away from the police?
Crazy stuffs.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:30:00 -
[10]
hahahaHAHAHA crazycrazy ppl in this world  ________________________ I'M POOR
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:32:00 -
[11]
They had their Weetabix.
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Stevie mcStepherson
Tag-UR-It Developments
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:37:00 -
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They believe that they were really high on something... Even when they "came out of it" they kept mum about their motives etc, personally if they didnt I would have had them sectioned!
Maybe they were testing to see if they had super powers? 7 weeks in hospital to recover from being hit by a truck and the other one walking out the same day after being hit by two cars?... Hard to say if they do or not!
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:12:00 -
[13]
Silly cows.
Next time keep your fingers crossed it IS fatal .. the gene pool will be enhanced greatly by their omittence.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:13:00 -
[14]
thats pretty bizarre
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Jayka Kyer
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:24:00 -
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Im glad the one that ran infront of the truck didnt die for the truck drivers sake, poor guy. |

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 26/09/2008 12:40:42 I hope they died.
Aw damn, keep them over there!
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:42:00 -
[17]
I've found the youtube video of the incident. Its taken from some night show about UK cops apparently, and even watching then you can tell something is truly ****ing wrong. Period.
I'm leery of linking it directly because of its disturbing nature, so I'll just put up the name of the video and you guys look for it.
Traffic Cops - Swedish Twins cause mayhem on Motorway -
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:57:00 -
[18]
Damn vikings, wearing chainmail, coming over here looting out monasteries and writing off our cars.... 
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.26 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jayka Kyer Im glad the one that ran infront of the truck didnt die for the truck drivers sake, poor guy.
This is the only reason that I would not one of the girls to die, but if the drivers can handle the fact that they just eliminated to useless individuals then I would rather these 2 be road flesh I would bet the only reason they did not die was that they were willing (drugged up and limp bodied like a drunk in a car wreck) to jump under the wheels of truck or in front of the car the as the 2nd sister did.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.26 13:20:00 -
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Haha christ.
Then again, what happened to the one in green that got blitzed by the HGV? She looked pretty messed up but not exactly destroyed.
The one in red though... what the hell, just shows you what kind of strength the human body can muster when its in full force. Or at least... assisted with meths.
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Tao Han
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 13:39:00 -
[21]
Thats Swedes
No matter what, there is always a bit of a fight in us 
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:23:00 -
[22]
yeah saw this on tv yesterday, i was very WTF, hit by a car, then they run off and do it again, then she still needs 6 people to take her down :S
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Khadur
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:40:00 -
[23]
"Overwhelmed by her strengh", she sliped stupid bobby tit
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:50:00 -
[24]
Ok guys and girls,
Lets relax a bit on wishing that people were dead. Lighten up a little.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Andrest Disch
Amarr Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari I've found the youtube video of the incident. Its taken from some night show about UK cops apparently, and even watching then you can tell something is truly ****ing wrong. Period.
I'm leery of linking it directly because of its disturbing nature, so I'll just put up the name of the video and you guys look for it.
Traffic Cops - Swedish Twins cause mayhem on Motorway
"Call the police!" "We ARE the police!"
Sounds like something out of Monty Python, can't believe they took that out of the BBC showing. =(
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Something Random
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:06:00 -
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OK the one in green, *thud* and no movement tends to happen when you headbutt an HGV that i understand, BUT the one in red TWICE hit by a car on a motorway and still able to fight. The dent proves it wasnt exactly a light hit.
What a woman !!!
She'll keep the kids in line.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:33:00 -
[27]
Oo
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Karma
Eve University
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:55:00 -
[28]
I'm with Something Random ... those two are made of sterner stuff.
even though I'm a swede, and thus blessed with a great deal of arcane knowledge, not even I can tell what the hell's wrong with them.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:57:00 -
[29]
Terminators? 
That's pretty incredible . . .
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:02:00 -
[30]
Now that's just bizarre.
Whats wrong with em? Are they on drugs or something? ---
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:12:00 -
[31]
cool
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C1yde
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:13:00 -
[32]
PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:20:00 -
[33]
Originally by: CCP Navigator Ok guys and girls,
Lets relax a bit on wishing that people were dead. Lighten up a little.
Sorry for saying that people that put others lives at risk are better off dead. I will refrain from such ramblings in the future.
As to the body being strong because these girls survived is not the "truest" statement. The reason that the first survived and the second could get up an run is probably that they were under the influence of a substance, thus when they contacted the vehicles they were much less likely to tense up.
Bodies that survive terminal velocity falls are do so, not becuase they are strong, but because the individual was passed out or somehow able to reach a zen like state of relaxation, so as the forces are dispersed throughout the body more effectively.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:27:00 -
[34]
sheesh I'm jealous of swedish people now. You people are like ****roaches, what does it take to kill you if a truck can't.
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:43:00 -
[35]
watched it last night on bbc 1. when the woman gets up and starts fighting the policewoman after getting mashed by the golf i was WTF!
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:01:00 -
[36]
I think they were looking for Mitnal
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Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:14:00 -
[37]
They are weird.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..
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Micia
Minmatar Thrace Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:31:00 -
[38]
That's really messed up.
What's even more messed up, are the cameras monitoring what's going on in the midle of nowhere.
I heard there's millions of those cameras all over the place; how many people are actually employed to watch all of them? |

Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:42:00 -
[39]
GB is a nanny state, I don't think any other country has any more public camera per metric square than GB.
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:44:00 -
[40]
POST LINK TO YOUTUBE VID YOU HEARTLESS SADISTS  -omg-
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:56:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Micia That's really messed up.
What's even more messed up, are the cameras monitoring what's going on in the midle of nowhere.
I heard there's millions of those cameras all over the place; how many people are actually employed to watch all of them?
Uhh, have you noticed how it's a high-quality camera for the most part, at eye-level, moving around? You know, like a regular TV camera? 
We have cameras on the motorways here to see just what the hell is going on if there's an accident, I can't see anything wrong with that. It's much more efficient to know what's happened at an accident or indeed if there is one at all so traffic control and the emergency services have an idea of what is best to do in the situation.
And in all honesty, as long as it doesn't invade my privacy, i.e. look directly into my house, then I really don't care if people want to put cameras up left right and centre.
Only cameras I object to are speed cameras 
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson GB is a nanny state, I don't think any other country has any more public camera per metric square than GB.
That may be so, but look how much more information and EVIDENCE can be found on so many more incidents.
That show just reaffirmed my desire to become a traffic cop and/or work for the highways agency.
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los ojos
COGNET SpaceSystems Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:16:00 -
[43]
Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know.
yep. two words:
angel dust
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Rawrior
Gallente Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:53:00 -
[44]
*why dont you go play in traffic or somthing!*
=))
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Mulco
Metalheads
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Posted - 2008.09.27 00:26:00 -
[45]
This should be considered to be the main reason to why sweden is known as one of the world's most equal countrys. It's not that we want to share everything equal but if we dont they beat the living shit out of us. 
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:36:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Brock Nelson GB is a ninny state, I don't think any other country has any more public camera per metric square than GB.
Fixed your spelling error.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.27 07:15:00 -
[47]
Damn UK cops are sissies. If it had been the US they had been tasered or shot, hell had it been in whiny neighboring Norway they had been mazed and hit with bludgeons. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Lyn Quan
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.09.27 07:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damn UK cops are sissies. If it had been the US they had been tasered or shot, hell had it been in whiny neighboring Norway they had been mazed and hit with bludgeons.
Yeah if people only would get a warning shot in the head everytime they stepped out of line, this kind of stuff just wouldn't happen. And it'd be a lot quieter on the streets!
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:40:00 -
[49]
it takes a huge ****up of the brain to mess up a base primal survival instinct of self-preservation, and considering they were coherent enough to talk to one of the cops before the second hit involving the big truck, I'm betting its not really drugs.
Something more ****ed up than drugs is probably at play. Think about it, if someone's so high as to willingly run into oncoming traffic and get run over, do you actually think they'd be coherent enough to talk to police, let alone stand straight? -
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:45:00 -
[50]
Even after we sweedes get hit by a car on the highway it STILL takes 6 brittish cops to pin us down :D
Metal? Hell yeee! |

Mea Lustra
Amarr Toxic Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:55:00 -
[51]
Just wow... Really have to feel sorry for that truck driver. Tbh I don't really care about those two girls unless they had a medical/mental condition, if they were high or something similar it was their own doing.
Luckily no one got killed because then the personal tragedies would have been far worse.
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Jaratsri
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:58:00 -
[52]
Apparently one of the sisters had committed a knife murder and she wanted to kill herself, after leaving the hospital from the first suicide attempt that this was she threw herself at a car again but survived that too, thatĘs what the Swedish newspaper says anyways |

Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.27 13:31:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damn UK cops are sissies. If it had been the US they had been tasered or shot, hell had it been in whiny neighboring Norway they had been mazed and hit with bludgeons.
Yeah, that's what those people really needed, being hit by two cars then actually killed off by the police on camera, There's a reason why no one in America really trusts their own police to keep them safe.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.27 13:49:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damn UK cops are sissies. If it had been the US they had been tasered or shot, hell had it been in whiny neighboring Norway they had been mazed and hit with bludgeons.
If someone did what they did in the States, if the officers followed protocol, they would have had those girls sitting on the grass legs crossed, and potentially handcuffed considering the suicide risk at least one of these girls presented. Now if the cops had not followed protocol, which many do, and the girls started to run, the same thing would have probably happened.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: los ojos yep. two words:
angel dust
Same thing crossed my mind. Remembering back a few years that the US police were using shark nets to catch people high on that stuff. Tasers, pepper spray and such just didn't work at all, even with broken arms and legs, they were fighting with inhuman strength.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. |

Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.27 16:09:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Jaratsri Apparently one of the sisters had committed a knife murder and she wanted to kill herself, after leaving the hospital from the first suicide attempt that this was she threw herself at a car again but survived that too, thatĘs what the Swedish newspaper says anyways
Doesnt explain what the other twin was doing following the leader... -
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:17:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
Originally by: Jaratsri Apparently one of the sisters had committed a knife murder and she wanted to kill herself, after leaving the hospital from the first suicide attempt that this was she threw herself at a car again but survived that too, thatĘs what the Swedish newspaper says anyways
Doesnt explain what the other twin was doing following the leader...
Well to me the fact that they are twins could have something to do with it. There are uncanny bonds between twins especially maternal twins. Or the same awfull thing, that drove the 1st sister to commit suicide, happened to both of them 
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:31:00 -
[58]
I like those girls. They seem like they would be fun.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:36:00 -
[59]
So after murdering someone, she wanted to throw herself at a car and potentially life threatening not only the driver but also other people in traffic?
I think she's just attention seeking. 
Seriously tho, totally messed up. I used to work in delivery business, had a workmate that killed an idiot jumping in front of his car, ironicly.. we're swedes. Either way, my workmate got really messed up because of this and eventually the stress from the trauma led him to early retirement. I hope he didn't see that newsfeed, would probably mess his head up pretty bad. 
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Khadur
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:55:00 -
[60]
We have the nice goods, hurry up and buy ze drugs
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.27 23:11:00 -
[61]
The murder apparently happened after this incident, so now can I wish them dead without getting moderated?
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.28 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know.
thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police) ________________________ I'M POOR
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.28 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: MuffinsRevenger Metal? Hell yeee!
this ________________________ I'M POOR
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.29 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know.
thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police)
I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.29 03:36:00 -
[65]
******* is a hell of a drug!
/seriously? definitely angel dust. i watched a video of a guy (medium size) take out 5 cops (large, in shape cops) in a hallway on that stuff. he put 3 of them in the hospital with serious injuries, nothing they did to subdue him even phased him.  ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt! |

Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.29 10:21:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 29/09/2008 10:21:33
Originally by: Wendat Huron The murder apparently happened after this incident, so now can I wish them dead without getting moderated?
One of them murdered someone after the fact? WTF!!! How did that happen? Did the cops let them go after these shenanigans? At the least they should have been locked up in a psych ward, for detox and an evaluation, for a week or so.
And ditto on the moderation part.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.30 19:32:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: C1yde PCP fits the bill, i remember stories of that stuff being in use and police being unable to take out users with non lethal gunshots, they just kept on coming. How true they are i dont know.
thats why it's standard to first fire a warning shot then aim for the breast then head. In sweden anyway (military police)
I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Grimwalius d'Antan
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:30:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =)
On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not. |

Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:35:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Kaeten They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head.
Sad thing about that is after spending a couple years in a shooting ranhge, none of the cops that ever came by could ever willingly make a head shot _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:38:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 30/09/2008 20:40:19 ok I'm really confused here. Mostly with a timeline and some facts.
This article was posted a few days ago. Watching that video, at the very end, it states one twin recovered after 7 weeks in the hospital. So either this happened earlier than a few days ago or we already know she'll be in good shape in 7 weeks.
By the way, the info given in that original BBC link really sucks. No names, no ages, no other info, just that somebody played in traffic.
OK, onto part 2: The knife murder.
I racked my brain trying to find any info on this and the closest I found was this link and this link.
The article is dated August 16th with the attack taking place on May 20th which would put the attack before the highway incident, not after.
My 2nd between the 2 articles is that it states the stabbing woman jumps from a bridge on the highway suffering 2 broken ankles and a fractured skull and those lovely crazy ladies looked as healthy as could be to me (before they ran into traffic of course).
Am I missing something here or are people getting the stories mixed up due to the myriad of forums all saying the same thing?
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:59:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Kaeten They changed the ruels not that long back, it's warning, chest, head.
Sad thing about that is after spending a couple years in a shooting ranhge, none of the cops that ever came by could ever willingly make a head shot

then again, a guy running at you will get closer making the target larger as seconds go by ________________________ I'M POOR
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL.
everyone uses a firearm should know this.
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for.
Lets say a guys high, PCP. He won't feel shit. Your aiming only for his chest, hes 15meters away. he starts running at you with a knife (now if he gets on you you are pretty much a gonner as someone else pointed out that a guy on PCP took out 5 cops etc. I've seen videos of ppl strapped down that actully break their arms and legs trying to get out of their restraints) You turn around grab your gun switch safety off shout a warning, fire a warning shot then start to aim at his chest. How far do you think hes ran by then?
Also lets say you get 2-3 rounds off into his chest, you might only hit non-vital organs, meaning he'll still run at you. That's why it's standard in sweden to shoot a warning shot first, then a shot to the cheast, then a shot to the head. If he still runs at you then you pretty much fail lol.
Pretty scary shit to be honest.
When I was at the Polish÷gskolan (Police Acadamy, only one of these in Sweden) in stockholm training as a Military Police (we were lectured by normal civilian police instructors) we were instructed in ways to deal with this and why etc..
But then again, I can only vouch for Sweden, I'm pretty sure other countries have other ways though. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:41:00 -
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Another thing I would like to add between the sisters of the traveling crazy and the murder suspect in my linked articles:
Sabina Eriksson, aged 40, and murder suspect, is reported to have jumped from a bridge over the A50, fracturing both ankles and skull.
Not knowing the terrain I googled mapped it and it looks like the A50 and the M6 run parallel to each other and are just a little over a kilometer apart or so.
Also in the murder suspect article I linked it says nothing of there being a second person.
Other than this there have been no updates on any news website that I can find about these 2 and you would think that if one was a murder suspect it'd be all over the place.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.30 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Another thing I would like to add between the sisters of the traveling crazy and the murder suspect in my linked articles:
Sabina Eriksson, aged 40, and murder suspect, is reported to have jumped from a bridge over the A50, fracturing both ankles and skull.
Not knowing the terrain I googled mapped it and it looks like the A50 and the M6 run parallel to each other and are just a little over a kilometer apart or so.
Also in the murder suspect article I linked it says nothing of there being a second person.
Other than this there have been no updates on any news website that I can find about these 2 and you would think that if one was a murder suspect it'd be all over the place.
Ahh.. That was an interesting turn of avents. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Illwill Bill
Minmatar Scandinavian Carebears AB
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Posted - 2008.09.30 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rialtor sheesh I'm jealous of swedish people now. You people are like ****roaches, what does it take to kill you if a truck can't.
Taxes.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.10.01 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =)
On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for.
Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2008.10.01 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =)
On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for.
Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints.
No, it's more that if the situation has escalated where you have to kill someone, they have ignored all warnings to stop and are either crazy or just plain stupid.
Provided there is good oversight to stop police from just unloading on people for no good reasons, I'm fine with them killing suspects.
Citizens seems to have the idea that all people can and should be reasoned with, eve when it endangers everyone around them. Sometimes, this is plainly false.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.10.01 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Friendly
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =)
On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for.
Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints.
No, it's more that if the situation has escalated where you have to kill someone, they have ignored all warnings to stop and are either crazy or just plain stupid.
Provided there is good oversight to stop police from just unloading on people for no good reasons, I'm fine with them killing suspects.
Citizens seems to have the idea that all people can and should be reasoned with, eve when it endangers everyone around them. Sometimes, this is plainly false.
Again, around here it isn't a capital offense to be mentally ill, in fact it is a mitigating circumstance as it is in most civilized nations where the 'crazy' people are held to another standard. Most people lose their fighting spirit equally being shot in the leg or the chest.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.01 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan
Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure the regular police are instructed to go for the leg after the warning shot and never the head.
I doubt it. A gun is "lethal force", any other use is cruel. You either fire warning shots that are not meant to hit anyone, or you fire to KILL. Intentional wounding shots is a criminal offense in most parts of the world I believe. Only the Terminator aims low =)
On the other hand, intentional head shots sounds strange too. The chest is the largest target area, and I was under the impression that this is the area all police and military are trained to aim for.
Really, killing people is preferred over immobilizing them? Around here the cops used to take out the leg first, then again that was before they got hollowpoints.
Neutralize, not immobilize. A man that's dead or too injured to be a threat is neutralized. However, a gun is a method of lethal force. There are alternatives and intentionally using a gun to neutralize a threat in a non-lethal fashion is like trying to pull a trailer full of timber in a Ferrari. And the Ferrari is on fire while doing so. I think there are only a few uses of guns and that is to intimidate and to kill. If you shoot someone and they live but can no longer fight, that's fortunate, but you shouldn't try and accomplish this consistently. Use a taser or mace if you think there is a reasonable chance to neutralize a threat with those tools.
I believe the use of hollow point ammunition was to prevent over penetration as the reason given by the Swedish police. FMJ can easily cut straight through the flesh and exit in an uncontrolled fashion. The wound is also relatively mild and therefore less effective. Hollow point ammunition opens up like a flower and cause much more grievous wounds, but as the bullet is deformed it slows itself down, staying inside the body.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41 That last run infront of the lorry was an obvious suicide attempt.Look how she looks at the lorry when she runs out and gets hit 10 secs later.These girls are obviously mentally ill ,just like every swede i know Just kidding!
Good looking though and since they are twins and suicidle im sure they would have agreed to a 3 way
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.10.01 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Caesar Khan Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41 That last run infront of the lorry was an obvious suicide attempt.Look how she looks at the lorry when she runs out and gets hit 10 secs later.These girls are obviously mentally ill ,just like every swede i know Just kidding!
Good looking though and since they are twins and suicidle im sure they would have agreed to a 3 way
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Caesar Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.01 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Caesar Khan Edited by: Caesar Khan on 01/10/2008 10:53:41
During which they'd cut you to pieces.
Mmmmm..That would have been spasmtastic!!hehehe!
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