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Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:38:00 -
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Tei Lin wrote:
So the intent matters? Good to know CCP is healthy enough of a company to have enough manpower to take each case and determine the intent of the actions involved. (That's sarcasm)
Putting aside areas of clear intent (such as Alliance Panel gaffe), is it ok to blow someone up repeatedly because they acted like an idiot on EVE radio?
And will I get banned for blowing up The Wiz today because my intent was interpreted as harassment yet all I really wanted was the money?
You see the problem with this now?
Dude you are embarassing the rest of us who didn't want Mittens banned with your terrible posting. Mittens was not banned for anything done with spaceships. There is no policy change, you can blow up anyone you like as often as you like so long as its not noobs in starter systems. If you want to start a thread make it about ccp choosing in game sanctions for out of game actions. |

Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:56:00 -
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So Sensational wrote:All ingame actions have a real life effect on the victims, if completely legit actions are bannable based on the results (I.e. consistently "harassing" someone within the magic circle which leads to his suicide) or based on the intent of the perpetrator (GM Thought Police), you're setting a precedent where we can't do anything in EVE for the risk of being banned. Luckily, this is a high profile case where CCP was forced to conduct damage control, and will likely and hopefully have no impact on the way the GMs moderate the game in the future. I'm sure you can't acknowledge this second paragraph as a CCP employee though, I certainly wouldn't 
Unless every ganker states they are doing it to cause out of game harm there is no issue. |

Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:03:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote: See and this is a problem, wheres the line now? Do I have to back off if a victim of a suicide gank says "I'll IRL kill myself if you blow up my ship!!"
As long as you are not really dense and answer with something along the lines of "good" or "thats just what i am aimimg for" or type in alliance chat "hey guys this guy says he will kill himself if i blow up is ship, why dont you all come and do it repeatedly" you would be totally fine. If you really want to cover yourself kill him then petition him. The embarassment of having to tell the concerned GM he was making his mental health problems up to try to save his space pixels would be the icing on the cake of a good suicide gank and on the off chance he is telling the truth he might get some help he probably wouldn't have got if you hadn't ganked him.
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Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:27:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote: So wait if ANYONE else on that panel had made a similar/the same statement as Mittanni CCP couldn't ban them cause they would have no way to confirm that the person doing it was the character in game?
You are not very bright are you. CCP know MIttani said it cos it was on tv. All the other people on the panel are also on tv. Also proof of identity and account ownership is required to even stand for csm. If he had posted the equivelant on Kugu or goon forums they have no way to confirm that the person making the post is actually in any way related to the character "the mittani". In that case they could not act unless he fessed up. |

Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:28:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:
So does this mean you guys will actually start doing something about the people who give out death threats after being scammed?
This time 9000
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Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:27:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote:Tei Lin wrote:
I'm PRETTY sure your reaching here. Fanfest attendees, especially panelists, would need to present some form of ID along the way.
I'm pretty sure I am too actually, but its this line of in/out of game but it was a CCP sponsored event using CCP systems and they can confirm that the man is the character thats making the line fuzzy. Even then though other than providing CC information (which you don't HAVE to provide if your account uses PLEX I think) most people who play aren't required to turn over personal information to CCP. Also keep in mind that it was the Mittanni (the in game character) who was punished by the ban, not the real life person who logs in as the Mittani. Unless CCP is passing out secret pass phrases (the Narwhal Bacons at Midnight??) to panel attendees then there's no way to know if the actual dude speaking is the toon in the game. Just like there would be no way to know if the person in a youtube video is in fact the toon they claim to be.
There is no way to be sure for definate, but how would one go about making a presentation on an alliance panel when not being the person they say they are, Surely their alliance would notice? I do not know how the ticketing was done for fanfest but i was under the impression it was done through the eve database? If ccp are really letting anyone turn up to fanfest and anyone do an alliance presentation with no id confirmation then yeah the other members of the panel could get away with it. CSM members definately cant though as they do have to confirm their identity.
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Doddy
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:23:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:You start following somebody through highsec, repeatedly ganking them and they ask you directly to leave them alone. Gankings have no valid reason, or person yields in regards to whatever situation, then you are the one who should yield. Beyond that, it is intentional attempt to disrupt the enjoyment of the game which I did read is not allowed by EULA rules. Once you cross to the lowsec, this would really no longer apply it is PvP space.. Float in pirate space, you get blown, no avoiding of it. You can camp station, do whatever, person can leave lowsec to be rid of you. They have the options.
Why does it make a difference what space you are in? All of eve is pvp space. Simply killing someone is not harassment. A GM may may judge it as such at their discretion but they are incredibly careful about doing so and i think you would find if there was a reason behind you popping the guy every time he undocked there would be no issue. Someone who smacktalked or threatened for example. Even if it really was a case of constantly ganking a random guy the GM would probably do something simple like move the player so he could go about his business.
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