Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

Goons are not the only "bad guys" in Eve. They are the only allowed hate group in Eve, and we would be better off without them. To assert that without goons there would be no "bad guys" in Eve is absurd.

You commenting on what is absurd is either incredibly ironic or awkwardly appropriate.

Oh please. Eve does not NEED goons. Eve needs players who know where to draw the line. There are plenty of other bad guys in Eve. I don't care about goons one way or the other, they can go, stay, burn Jita, do whatever they like. But their sense of entitlement toward this game has clearly become delusional. Starting at the top with a leader who thought that pretending remorse could fix the problem that he himself caused.

And it's way too late to expect people to support an alliance that has taken advantage of so many players. Sure, scams, theft, all that are permitted in the game. That doesn't mean anybody who gets scammed is going to like it or forget it. Support for the Goonswarm? Good luck with that. They have made so many enemies that's never going to happen.

What happened to Goons?

We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.

RIP it was fun while it lasted.

That's not what he said in the SoTG.

SotGs are always designed to spread mis-information. Why do you think it was on EveNews24 so fast?

We ain't evil, we're just good looking.

We ain't evil, we're just good looking.

(any more alice cooper fans here or just me?)

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

I can't go anywhere without seeing at least a couple dozen 'bad guys'.

If this game needs anything it's good guys.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

Goons are not the only "bad guys" in Eve. They are the only allowed hate group in Eve, and we would be better off without them. To assert that without goons there would be no "bad guys" in Eve is absurd.

I'm not a bad guy.

The goons are actually what everyone in EVE wants to be.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

But must keep putting them on a pedestal like we do. Perhapes we should have a single day a harvest where we don't mention they who mush not be named and spent he night drinking and regaling the victories this harvest .

Obviously Riverini already broke the NDA

We ain't evil, we're just good looking.

(any more alice cooper fans here or just me?)

This is why I am pro- GOON. Whenever I see one I spit on them in hi-sec and try to blow them up anywhere else. The GOONS are the only badguys in EVE and every good game needs a badguy.

What people don't understand is that the GOONs are actually TRYING to be the badguys. They love pissing all of us off. Everytime a carebear cries on the forums, somewhere there is a GOON smiling.

The more people hate on GOONs the more they are winning.

Until someone or something can fulfill the badguy role better than the GOONs I will support a good chunk of the things they do. Not all of them of course but a nice amount.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

TheMittani alt detected lol

If you don't like GSF. Then take them down.

Mittnes ban shows you CCP is not in the goons back pocket.
IF you are not strong enough to take them down. then STFU, this is Eve.

Yeah I don't know what the hell these people are on about. I'm the hero in this video game I'm playing.

Goons need POSTING more than POSTING needs goons.

Hisec is swimming with bots, corruption in Jita is like black blood flowing out of an open festering wound. New players are dragged and indoctrinated into terrible corporations and made to farm isk for their pve overlords while their peers whisper in their ear about the terrors of lowsec and pvp risk. Pilots pay tax into fat afk ceo wallets to pay for their plex while the weak are bullied into staying docked by failed pvpers who cant fight an armed ship.
The day will come when those same fat apathy filled lords of their terrified corporations will look to the dark skies as the filth of their greed rises around their neckbeards, they will look to us, jealous of our freedom, hungry eyes drawn to the shining CFC banner and scream "HELP US!"
And we will whisper softly, "No."...

My 2 cents:

The game would be fine without them. It's like saying we need Bob/It or any other large alliance.
I doubt they will leave. They like the game too much. Even if the current Goonswarm was to die. I'm sure a new goon alliance will just pop up again.

^^ this combined with stoicfauxs(sp?) comment about putting law enforcement sort of into the hands of players, you could actually end up with dynamic sec status depending on the upgrades fitted

The more people hate on GOONs the more they are winning.

This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

The best thing CCP could do after April 28th would be to incorporate this into the game's lore and environment. Jita becomes a wasteland of wrecks, most (all?) of the stations destroyed, the gates to Jita rerouted or scrambled, chronicles and lore news stories written. All those market orders and player assets stores in Jita? Gone! Jita being left as a lawless 0.4 system with nothing but debris floating through it would be the pinnacle of player created content.

They'll have to run it by Sony first though.