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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:32:00 -
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This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.
But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.
Long live Eve. |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Natural Progression
29
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:39:00 -
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Agreed completely.
omniscient omnipotent omnipresent without judgement |
Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:40:00 -
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'Goons' are not going anywhere. Even if they did disband that would not equate to there not being 'bad guys'. Players would simply break off into other corporations that held the same ideals or form a new corp with their favored play style. |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
65
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:41:00 -
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I say take it a step further and just enter the Goonswarm into the lore, i mean, Jita will bascially be a Goonswarm Incursion already, right? |
Xander Riggs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:42:00 -
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The only reason I tried Eve in the first place was to join B.O.B. against the Goons. The Great war drew a lot of people to the game, because it was an amazing story, from start to finish. The Goons have been involved in every major even in Eve's history. Even now, we are literally unable to stop talking about them, and most of us are eagerly looking forward to the end of April because of something the Goons have planned.
Say what you like about Mittani, but hes a better villain than Sansha Kuvakei could ever be. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again.
"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
453
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:42:00 -
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We ain't evil, we're just good looking.
(any more alice cooper fans here or just me?)
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1384
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:43:00 -
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Yes. I fully agree. As I stated in another thread. Goonswarm may all be a bunch of assholes but they are EvE's assholes and they bring an element to the game that nobody else can. I want them to stay in EvE and do what they do best. Be assholes. This is what is great about EvE. The sandbox.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:44:00 -
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I don't mind the Goons and there Interdiction and massive Nullpire but really if they go...
We'll just shift the hate back to those evil Russians.
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Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
20
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:47:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.
Erm, goons are the biggest meta-gamers going. And internet spaceships is serious business.
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Kriegman
Raging Ducks
Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:49:00 -
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We are not evil, we are actually very nice guys and gals. We love noobies and killing your space empires. |
Lifelongnoob
The Motley Crew Reborn
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:51:00 -
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we still have test alliance to hate  |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
46
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:53:00 -
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I'll tell you a story:
I was once almost a victim of GSF scamming. Even as a highsec griefer, I hated GSF. I thought they were a bunch of blabbering idiots and should die and burn in hell.
Until I joined the CFC.
Now I see the GSF for what it really is. 90% of their players are actually really cool people and will help their blues in any way possible, even if it means dying in combat.
Someone has to be villainized in EVE outside of the NPC's. If the only villains in EVE are NPCm this game will go stale VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY fast
CFC FOR LIFE! BURN TENAL TO THE GROUND!
...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
107
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:12:00 -
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Agree 100%.
Eve needs bad guys that want to smash our castles, throw sand in our face and generaly watch our virtual world burn.
Without these players, Eve would be a very dull place. |
Dubaschu
BJ TitsnEvE
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:14:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.
But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.
Long live Eve.
100% agreed |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
The Aurora Shadow
933
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:19:00 -
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you're missing "don't" in your title, OP.
PS: No, I agree too... :), but "someone like" goons doesn't mean it has to be goons.
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:20:00 -
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What happened to Goons? |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
355
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:22:00 -
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Goons are not the only "bad guys" in Eve. They are the only allowed hate group in Eve, and we would be better off without them. To assert that without goons there would be no "bad guys" in Eve is absurd.
http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Xander Riggs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:23:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:
Goons are not the only "bad guys" in Eve. They are the only allowed hate group in Eve, and we would be better off without them. To assert that without goons there would be no "bad guys" in Eve is absurd.
You commenting on what is absurd is either incredibly ironic or awkwardly appropriate.
"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Grumpy Owly
444
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:24:00 -
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Have to say the OP's prose sounds very familiar. 
Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
355
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:24:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:Princess Bride wrote:
Goons are not the only "bad guys" in Eve. They are the only allowed hate group in Eve, and we would be better off without them. To assert that without goons there would be no "bad guys" in Eve is absurd.
You commenting on what is absurd is either incredibly ironic or awkwardly appropriate.
At least I'm staying on topic. Cry moar plz. Your NPC alt tears taste of bee honey.
http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
591
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:26:00 -
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Goon Damage Control II in action.
Yeah.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
MEPH1ST0
DOUBLE IDENTITY
BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:28:00 -
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Eve needs BOB
BRING BACK BOB !! |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:29:00 -
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Every intarwebs game needs teenagers and basement dwellers... |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
60
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:32:00 -
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Oh please. Eve does not NEED goons. Eve needs players who know where to draw the line. There are plenty of other bad guys in Eve. I don't care about goons one way or the other, they can go, stay, burn Jita, do whatever they like. But their sense of entitlement toward this game has clearly become delusional. Starting at the top with a leader who thought that pretending remorse could fix the problem that he himself caused.
And it's way too late to expect people to support an alliance that has taken advantage of so many players. Sure, scams, theft, all that are permitted in the game. That doesn't mean anybody who gets scammed is going to like it or forget it. Support for the Goonswarm? Good luck with that. They have made so many enemies that's never going to happen. |
Xander Riggs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:33:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Oh please. Eve does not NEED goons. Eve needs players who know where to draw the line. There are plenty of other bad guys in Eve. I don't care about goons one way or the other, they can go, stay, burn Jita, do whatever they like. But their sense of entitlement toward this game has clearly become delusional. Starting at the top with a leader who thought that pretending remorse could fix the problem that he himself caused.
And it's way too late to expect people to support an alliance that has taken advantage of so many players. Sure, scams, theft, all that are permitted in the game. That doesn't mean anybody who gets scammed is going to like it or forget it. Support for the Goonswarm? Good luck with that. They have made so many enemies that's never going to happen.
The fact that we're even having this discussion suggests the contrary.
"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:53:00 -
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If you don't like GSF. Then take them down.
Mittnes ban shows you CCP is not in the goons back pocket.
IF you are not strong enough to take them down. then STFU, this is Eve.
...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Bane Necran
210
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:54:00 -
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I can't go anywhere without seeing at least a couple dozen 'bad guys'.
If this game needs anything it's good guys. |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
202
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:55:00 -
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I'm not a bad guy. |
Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:55:00 -
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Opertone wrote:What happened to Goons?
We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.
RIP it was fun while it lasted. |
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
58
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:09:00 -
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Sister Rhode wrote:Opertone wrote:What happened to Goons? We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner. RIP it was fun while it lasted.
That's not what he said in the SoTG.
You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.
-Winston Churchill |
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