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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.11 10:01:00 -
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Repost of the old thread:http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1187518
[eb] is still alive, and I will try catch up with requests.
In the paths of other "sheet" sites such as EVE-Sheet and inEve comes [eb] - eveboard.com
With inEve not feeling well I'm trying out one of my own, expecting to run into trouble when more than 10 pilots are added Wink but at the same time hoping to be able to solve any such issues that may arise.
Feel free to give it a try and drop your suggestions and comments, as well of course do notify me of any bugs you may run into.
[eb] - eveboard.com
/c
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Kelby
0
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Posted - 2011.09.11 13:06:00 -
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Great site
Do you think it will be possible to have a page that shows which modules you can and can't use? |
RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
100
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Posted - 2011.09.12 13:37:00 -
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now all we need is images back so my sig can be good again http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
21
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Posted - 2011.09.12 14:30:00 -
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Cool site |
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.09.12 15:45:00 -
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Great site, very useful! |
Conventia Underking
PIE Inc.
5
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Posted - 2011.09.13 02:28:00 -
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Love this site. Keep up the good work, Chribba. For God, Empire and Empress! |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10
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Posted - 2011.09.13 14:43:00 -
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Thanks for all the great work you do Chribba, love the site.
(Posted eventually after being repeatedly ganked by this wonderful forum.) CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
158
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Posted - 2011.09.13 21:56:00 -
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tyvm Chribba, this is an extremely useful site.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal made on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. |
Integra Arkanheld
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 11:29:00 -
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fantastic site |
Digital Messiah
N7 Corporation
32
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:16:00 -
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Thank you Chribba, keep up the good work mate. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" |
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 06:47:00 -
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Hey Chribba
I.ve noticed in the last week, or so the number of registered ysers on eveboard is dropping like a tonne of bricks.
The registered user count has dropped from a peek of 35,000 to 31,000 and the rate of loss appears to be increasing with the count dropping several 100 users per day.
Is there an issue, something going on?
Just a heads up: |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
390
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Posted - 2011.10.02 07:02:00 -
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Might be an API issue, or CCP started with the new keys, will look into it. Thanks.
(Also going to update it for the new keys)
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
390
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Posted - 2011.10.02 09:15:00 -
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Also here is what will happen next.
I will disable ALL pilots on eveboard, forcing you to generate a new key with the needed access and update it, that will prevent eveboard from getting blocked as well as this will need to happen once CCP turns off legacy keys, so I just speed it up a bit.
Simply create a new key with the needed access and log in using that info, you will then be presented to update your characters and it should be active again.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
394
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Posted - 2011.10.02 18:35:00 -
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[eb] has now been reset and you need to use the new keys to get your pilot listed.
Sorry for the trouble.
/c
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Zarofdium
The Illuminatii Mildly Intoxicated
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:19:00 -
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Chribba,
We seem to be having issues making new accounts with the new keys.
Upon further inspection and reviewing the API access log, it appears that EveBoard is correctly pulling character names (the initial pull during registration process), but is unable to establish the actual character sheet for viewing (via the web browser). I am not sure if this affects existing characters attempting to 'switch over' to the new keys, or if it is merely affecting 'new registrants.' |
Steve Ronuken
Cossette Moana
5
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:22:00 -
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Have you thought about putting up a link for a precreated api key? Mostly for lazy folks who can't read and tick boxes?
I think https://support.eveonline.com/api/key/createpredefined/59645960 covers it. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
399
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Posted - 2011.10.02 20:05:00 -
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Zarofdium wrote:Chribba,
We seem to be having issues making new accounts with the new keys.
Upon further inspection and reviewing the API access log, it appears that EveBoard is correctly pulling character names (the initial pull during registration process), but is unable to establish the actual character sheet for viewing (via the web browser). I am not sure if this affects existing characters attempting to 'switch over' to the new keys, or if it is merely affecting 'new registrants.' Looking into it now, updating pilots work fine. Going to check about new registrants.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
399
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Posted - 2011.10.02 20:05:00 -
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Added, thanks!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
399
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Posted - 2011.10.02 20:16:00 -
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New registrants should be fixed now. Will sort the issue of those who registered already and cannot re-reg (else manually is to delete from the "home" page).
/c
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Mealka
Farmers SRL AAA Citizens
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 06:50:00 -
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It is now working. Just log on in eveboard.com ! Delete your older char. Generate the new api key ! Put it back on eveboard.com !
That wotks for me ! |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
55
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Posted - 2011.10.03 20:11:00 -
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Added myself (new), an alt (new), and another alt (previously registered) with the new Custom API Key (CAK). All are working fine
Adding my own character took some time (at least 5-10 minutes) but eventually appeared. The other characters were instant. I don't consider there to be a problem here, but rather patience is a virtue.
Thanks much Chribba for your continued EVE efforts! |
rainman18385
FACTS on EVE RED.OverLord
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 11:57:00 -
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Mealka wrote:It is now working. Just log on in eveboard.com ! Delete your older char. Generate the new api key ! Put it back on eveboard.com !
That wotks for me !
have done this a few times and i still get the same msg..
Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Authentication failure.
any help to sort this out would be great...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
416
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:11:00 -
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rainman18385 wrote:Mealka wrote:It is now working. Just log on in eveboard.com ! Delete your older char. Generate the new api key ! Put it back on eveboard.com !
That wotks for me ! have done this a few times and i still get the same msg.. Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Authentication failure. any help to sort this out would be great... Poke me with your API info in-game and I'll manually debug it.
/c
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
79
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:28:00 -
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On the Log In / Sign Up page i enter my ID and vCode like it asks, and i get this...
No account was found with the details provided
Do you want to add a new account using the supplied information?
So i click the register button as prompted then i get this..
Error encountered No additional characters could be added for supplied API information.
Im not exactly sure what im doing wrong here. |
Eithros
Exploration Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 16:37:00 -
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Happening to me to this AM? Also getting another error.
Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: EVE backend database temporarily disabled. |
mayke
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 18:27:00 -
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did API for all chars the other day all was good til now got a message top of skill sheet that says
Can not load XML: Invalid at the top level of the document. Can not load XML: Invalid at the top level of the document. Error: eve_CharacterInfo, Message: EVE backend database temporarily disabled.
redid 1 char now says top of skill sheet
Error: CharacterSheet, Message: Web site database temporarily disabled. Error: SkillQueue, Message: Web site database temporarily disabled. Error: eve_CharacterInfo, Message: EVE backend database temporarily disabled. Full API Key needed for extra features, Error: Web site database temporarily disabled.
went to update again new message says
Error occured while trying to communicate with the API server:
now what do I have to do |
salia Shiar
Immortalis Mortis Angelus Mayhem.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 18:59:00 -
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Eithros wrote:Happening to me to this AM? Also getting another error.
Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: EVE backend database temporarily disabled.
getting this error as well when i try and add new charaters to the database |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
420
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Posted - 2011.10.06 19:08:00 -
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CCP is having issues with the API - that is most likely what is causing the errors.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18210
/c
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rainman18385
FACTS on EVE RED.OverLord
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 10:58:00 -
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Chribba wrote:rainman18385 wrote:Mealka wrote:It is now working. Just log on in eveboard.com ! Delete your older char. Generate the new api key ! Put it back on eveboard.com !
That wotks for me ! have done this a few times and i still get the same msg.. Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Authentication failure. any help to sort this out would be great... Poke me with your API info in-game and I'll manually debug it. /c
its all sorted chribba works fine now ty
keep up the good work...
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
29
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:34:00 -
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Updated my API info without issue, just remember to hit save under each character. Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
34
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:46:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Updated my API info without issue, just remember to hit save under each character. Welcome back Mashie. \o CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
30
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Posted - 2011.10.14 19:14:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Updated my API info without issue, just remember to hit save under each character. Welcome back Mashie. \o Oh hai there. o/ Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
Ravenal
The Fated E.Y
0
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Posted - 2011.10.14 23:24:00 -
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just adding to the todo list again in case it's not there already: - compare pilots mechanic: by rank
Essentially instead of comparing skill levels you compare the characters by rank in each of the ranked categories |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
514
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Posted - 2011.10.14 23:39:00 -
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Ravenal wrote:just adding to the todo list again in case it's not there already: - compare pilots mechanic: by rank
Essentially instead of comparing skill levels you compare the characters by rank in each of the ranked categories Thanks
/c
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Makhar
WEPRA CORP White Noise.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.15 00:00:00 -
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great site, love it! |
Mimic 777
Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 11:14:00 -
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Hey
I have tried multiple api's and characters however the only message i get is Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: Key has expired. Contact key owner for access renewal.
Help plx |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
526
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Posted - 2011.10.17 21:02:00 -
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Mimic 777 wrote:Hey
I have tried multiple api's and characters however the only message i get is Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: Key has expired. Contact key owner for access renewal.
Help plx Sounds like you are using the old limited API key, you must use the new custom key, try creating one with the pre-defined link in the first post.
/c
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RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
125
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:11:00 -
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oh after a small sabbatical - moved house - I've updated my api .... http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
163
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Posted - 2011.11.07 12:06:00 -
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oh no!
none of my skills are listed on my eveboard page
:'( |
Aichi Awara
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:17:00 -
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Has something been changed in the way rankings are calculated?
This morning my main was ranked around 2800+ and now he's about 1000 places up.
Just curious why this happened. |
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RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
133
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:59:00 -
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probably a lot of people have dropped off .... http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
772
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:09:00 -
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One of the database tables reached the 'int' limit and thus no more data could be added. That has been solved now and rankings etc should be back to normal in max a day when all characters have been updated again.
/c
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Drykor
Aperture Harmonics K162
37
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:59:00 -
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I'm curious why my character has a negative 16 day skill training left on Interdictors (in reality I've moved on to Heavy Interdictors now)
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Drykor Time remaining -16d 12h 40m 56s (skill finished) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1065
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:28:00 -
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Drykor wrote:I'm curious why my character has a negative 16 day skill training left on Interdictors (in reality I've moved on to Heavy Interdictors now) http://eveboard.com/pilot/DrykorTime remaining -16d 12h 40m 56s (skill finished) Are you currently training something? Else this sounds like a bug.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
201
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Posted - 2011.12.14 21:15:00 -
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Not sure if anybody else has asked before but...
Having the effective standing shown in addition to base would be nice.
Did a double-take when I saw that I'm hated more than I was expecting.
And of course thanks for the awesome sites! |
pietplaat
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:09:00 -
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o/ This character still has its old alliance in the sheet. But I switched to a npc corp. Maby a small glitch.
Thanks for making this site! |
Huntress Huntress
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:38:00 -
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pietplaat wrote:o/ This character still has its old alliance in the sheet. But I switched to a npc corp. Maby a small glitch.
Thanks for making this site!
That sounds more like a feature, imo. |
Imustbecomfused
Close Proximity State Of Union Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.12.22 08:54:00 -
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I could use some help updating my char. It says my api auto detect is disabled. Id like to update my EB... Thanks for the help. :) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1265
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Posted - 2011.12.22 11:02:00 -
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The alliance thing is a strange glitch.
As for API not updating, log on with the new details and press "save settings" on your char and it should become updated.
/c
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Mallet Sceptera
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 02:47:00 -
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Eveboard is down!! Save the character bazaar Chribba!
/panics |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1905
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Posted - 2012.01.02 13:24:00 -
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Employment history in sheet page?
Yes/No - Hidden/Viewable.
I know it's public info in-game, however the API limits it to keys and not default access. Is this something we wish to see on the info page - and should it be able to be hidden like wallet etc or show to all (except ofc pw protected sheets)?
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
14
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Posted - 2012.01.02 15:24:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Employment history in sheet page?
Yes/No - Hidden/Viewable.
I know it's public info in-game, however the API limits it to keys and not default access. Is this something we wish to see on the info page - and should it be able to be hidden like wallet etc or show to all (except ofc pw protected sheets)?
/c
I have no issue with employment history being shown, tho it should be hideable for those who do not wish for their to be seen |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
358
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:52:00 -
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Amateratsu wrote:Chribba wrote:Employment history in sheet page?
Yes/No - Hidden/Viewable.
I know it's public info in-game, however the API limits it to keys and not default access. Is this something we wish to see on the info page - and should it be able to be hidden like wallet etc or show to all (except ofc pw protected sheets)?
/c I have no issue with employment history being shown, tho it should be hideable for those who do not wish for their to be seen This. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
14
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:31:00 -
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Hi Chribba
There appears to be an issue with EB where the character ranks are not updating.
Just a heads up |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1972
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Posted - 2012.01.08 08:17:00 -
[55] - Quote
They're not updating at all? Or what are the symptoms?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1972
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:08:00 -
[56] - Quote
Also regraphed the SP graphs so you now can be in your own category if you're high SP pilot (so not all land in the 160M+ category)
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
14
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Posted - 2012.01.08 12:25:00 -
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Chribba wrote:They're not updating at all? Or what are the symptoms?
Not updating at all.
For example, i have 139 skills at level 5, but EB still shows me at 138. Subsystems, in the skill list i have 4,066 mil but in the ranks EB shows 3,855 mil.
In the fullranks list, the stats have not changed since yesterday morning.
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Contralto
Rift Tech
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:27:00 -
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Amateratsu wrote:Chribba wrote:They're not updating at all? Or what are the symptoms? Not updating at all. For example, i have 139 skills at level 5, but EB still shows me at 138. Subsystems, in the skill list i have 4,066 mil but in the ranks EB shows 3,855 mil. In the fullranks list, the stats have not changed since yesterday morning.
Same problem here, no updates on anything since several days, this despite having added a new skill and taken it to level 3. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1980
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:23:00 -
[59] - Quote
Hmm looking into it, it seems this could be tied to the update of the Crucible database.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1980
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:38:00 -
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After digging deeper into the issue I think I now have solved it.
Let me know if it still acts weird.
/c
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Contralto
Rift Tech
0
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Posted - 2012.01.12 16:44:00 -
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Chribba wrote:After digging deeper into the issue I think I now have solved it.
Let me know if it still acts weird.
/c
Working ok now! back to normal, good job! Thanks |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
414
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:27:00 -
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Trivial:
* Orca on Ships page has the wrong faction icon. Should be Gallente not Caldari. [ORE actually] * Noctis doesn't seem to have an icon.
Only noticed because of a bit of OCD. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2003
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Posted - 2012.01.15 21:13:00 -
[63] - Quote
Will see too that. I think some icons got mixed up when the new db was applied.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
380
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:29:00 -
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Chribba, is it any chance you can add average character age to the various statistics pages? Also, on the statistics pages, how about listing the top 10 and not only top 5 characters for the highest SP in each bloodline? Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2054
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
Requests have been added, it also applies to corporation statistics.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2067
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
Small bug where pilots could not register their pilots has now been fixed.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
390
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:17:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Requests have been added, it also applies to corporation statistics.
/c Very nice. I'm surprised the average age is as high as 4y 198d. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2305
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Posted - 2012.01.27 14:51:00 -
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Early this morning the [eb] server started to throw delay write errors on the data drive and minutes later it disappeared from the system.
Unable to get it back online I've had to pull a restore from earlier in the night so some characters will be missing between the hours of the backup and the crash.
Some scripts were never properly backed up either so some recent changes will be reverted back (average age etc).
Data recovery will be in progress shortly but until then I won't start recoding the changes until I know if I need to or not. Sorry for any trouble this may cause you.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2340
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Posted - 2012.01.30 23:50:00 -
[69] - Quote
[eb] should now be fully recovered from last weeks hardware crash and back to normal (on a faster disk again).
Also the latest feature additions should be back too.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
18
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Posted - 2012.02.22 10:30:00 -
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Hi Chribba
I'd like to make a suggestion of removing Average Sp Per Skill from the global score calculations.
The reason being is that it penalises those players who have a large #n of skills injected and there is nothing you can do to influence your score in that rank other than not adding new skills and training those you have to max, which could take years.
Keep the rank in the character ranks pages, just remove it from the global score calculation.
Anyone have any objections to the above suggestion?
Thanks |
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
409
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:19:00 -
[71] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote: Hi Chribba
I'd like to make a suggestion of removing Average Sp Per Skill from the global score calculations.
The reason being is that it penalises those players who have a large #n of skills injected and there is nothing you can do to influence your score in that rank other than not adding new skills and training those you have to max, which could take years.
Keep the rank in the character ranks pages, just remove it from the global score calculation.
Anyone have any objections to the above suggestion?
Thanks
It is about as fair to have that as it is for those of us that like to have fever skills but maxed out instead. We not only get penalized for having fewer injected skills we are also penalized for having fewer skills at lvl 4 and most likely none at level 3. Oh yes, skill value is also a penalty we have to live with.
So all in all, I think you are way better of in total with the current setup. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
82
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
Hi Chribba
One of my alts is in the rookie corp Ministry of War, but it's showing alliance as Morsus Mihi, so unless MM has pulled a massive coup there's a glitch somewhere. He used to be in a corp within MM but not any more.
*Edit* In fact, even the the characters I've got in my corp are showing an old alliance |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2627
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
Always taking in account how ranks should be calculated and aiming for a balanced math.
Emma Royd wrote:Hi Chribba
One of my alts is in the rookie corp Ministry of War, but it's showing alliance as Morsus Mihi, so unless MM has pulled a massive coup there's a glitch somewhere. He used to be in a corp within MM but not any more.
*Edit* In fact, even the the characters I've got in my corp are showing an old alliance This should now be fixed, code bug causing it to not empty out old alliance on updates.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
18
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Posted - 2012.02.23 10:30:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote: It is about as fair to have that as it is for those of us that like to have fever skills but maxed out instead. We not only get penalized for having fewer injected skills we are also penalized for having fewer skills at lvl 4 and most likely none at level 3. Oh yes, skill value is also a penalty we have to live with.
So all in all, I think you are way better of in total with the current setup.
Agreed, There are several ranks that penalise different groups of players depending on their training choices.
I can live with a fixed 1000 pt penaltie for not being ranked in #n level 3 / 4 skills unlike Average sp per skill where one is ranked below 5000 and decending daily and there is nothing one can do to stem that decent.
other than spending the next 10+ years training all current skills to max and not adding any new skills which restricts a players training choice in that regard.
Skill Value is another rank that restricts choice if you wish to be ranked well in that catagory.
Either way, i'm in for the long haul
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
412
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:48:00 -
[75] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:Agreed, There are several ranks that penalise different groups of players depending on their training choices.
I can live with a fixed 1000 pt penaltie for not being ranked in #n level 3 / 4 skills unlike Average sp per skill where one is ranked below 5000 and decending daily and there is nothing one can do to stem that decent.
other than spending the next 10+ years training all current skills to max and not adding any new skills which restricts a players training choice in that regard.
I'm currently ranked 6232 in number of level 4 skills, up until I have got rid of the 60 outstanding ones my rank will keep on falling like a rock. And considering I'm unlikely to get all of them to 5 I will probably end up being stuck at a rank 28000 or something in that category.
I would say the average SP per skill is nothing compared to that with regards to terrible penalty. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Hendrik Tiberius
Tiberius Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:34:00 -
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Hello Chribba,
first of all thank you for eveboard. I look at it a lot, more than the actual game these days ;)
I noticed you can not compare two characters that are both protected by a password. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2716
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Posted - 2012.03.01 08:10:00 -
[77] - Quote
I thought I made it so that if you have the same password for them you could compare... but maybe that was a dream. Else different passworded pilots cannot be compared as you can only hold one password in session at a time.
/c
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Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
8
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Posted - 2012.03.07 05:08:00 -
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Is the ranking algorithm public? If so, can someone provide a link? Also, I conclude that the ranking is done daily or at least asynch with stats as current stats can conflict with ranks. Chribba, when does the ranking algo run?
Also Chribba, I really appreciate this site. eve-search, eve-files and eveboard are probably my three favorite eve related sites. the official forums come fourth.
I wonder how long it takes for a post in this thread and a double reference to C will call Cthulu, err, Chribba, from the veldsparian haze.... |
RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
178
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Posted - 2012.03.07 10:30:00 -
[79] - Quote
I'm currently gong though and training any level 3 to level 4 now http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2779
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Posted - 2012.03.07 11:45:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ford Chicago wrote:Is the ranking algorithm public? If so, can someone provide a link? Also, I conclude that the ranking is done daily or at least asynch with stats as current stats can conflict with ranks. Chribba, when does the ranking algo run?
Also Chribba, I really appreciate this site. eve-search, eve-files and eveboard are probably my three favorite eve related sites. the official forums come fourth.
I wonder how long it takes for a post in this thread and a double reference to C will call Cthulu, err, Chribba, from the veldsparian haze.... The alogrithm is public.
It's basically just an average of the ranks you have: sum(ranked)+((29-x)*1000))/x
Where x is the number of ranks you have. 29 being the number of categories that are included in counting towards the rank.
The ranks are being recalculated every 30 minutes. However without a manual pilot refresh, each pilot is only updated once per day.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2780
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Posted - 2012.03.07 11:46:00 -
[81] - Quote
Certificates should now be updated and showing properly, it seems they went missing after an INT overflow.
/c
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Hendrik Tiberius
Tiberius Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:12:00 -
[82] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I thought I made it so that if you have the same password for them you could compare... but maybe that was a dream. Else different passworded pilots cannot be compared as you can only hold one password in session at a time.
/c
I see, thank you. This was for two different passwords. The version with two characters with same password I did not try. |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:52:00 -
[83] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Certificates should now be updated and showing properly, it seems they went missing after an INT overflow.
/c For some reason my profile is not working with Certificate. Is there anything I can do? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2786
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Posted - 2012.03.08 08:37:00 -
[84] - Quote
Pottsey wrote:Chribba wrote:Certificates should now be updated and showing properly, it seems they went missing after an INT overflow.
/c For some reason my profile is not working with Certificate. Is there anything I can do? Seems to be working now?
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.08 19:03:00 -
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Thanks all working and showing in ranks. |
Gox24
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:16:00 -
[86] - Quote
ok cant get api key to update now need help
where it says name i put account name verifaction code I leave alone character is where i put my game name gox 24 type leave on character access mast leave alone expires i just click on no expiry
clicked on the following account status char info skillqueue skilltraining char sheet
chat info standings medals and hit submit
and its a no go please help |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2945
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Posted - 2012.03.30 13:15:00 -
[87] - Quote
Gox24 try use this link - https://support.eveonline.com/api/key/createpredefined/59645960
Then log in with the new api key/vCode - and under your "home" press Save Settings on your character(s).
/c
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Gox24
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:47:00 -
[88] - Quote
thanks for the link and the help it did the job....... great job |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3193
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:26:00 -
[89] - Quote
Employment history added to the pilot pages. Also some maintenance has been performed increasing the speed in general.
/c
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Vessper
Cosmology Deadly Unknown
8
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:39:00 -
[90] - Quote
I like the employment history addition, but is there any chance that this can be placed in a expandable region similar to how the skill queue is?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3223
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Posted - 2012.04.21 13:58:00 -
[91] - Quote
Vessper wrote:I like the employment history addition, but is there any chance that this can be placed in a expandable region similar to how the skill queue is?
I had that in mind for the first draft, but then I had to redesign it so it hasn't come in, but yes I plan to add that and maybe just show the first 2-3 corps, and then have you extend it to view all.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
482
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:00:00 -
[92] - Quote
I like that, but as noted above it does take quite some space for those of us that took a while to settle with one corp. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3223
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:03:00 -
[93] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:I like that, but as noted above it does take quite some space for those of us that took a while to settle with one corp. You should see the guy that has like 130 corps in his history...
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
482
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:05:00 -
[94] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:I like that, but as noted above it does take quite some space for those of us that took a while to settle with one corp. You should see the guy that has like 130 corps in his history... Oh can we have a ranking page for most corps in corp history? Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3243
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:05:00 -
[95] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:I like that, but as noted above it does take quite some space for those of us that took a while to settle with one corp. You should see the guy that has like 130 corps in his history... Oh can we have a ranking page for most corps in corp history? Already in the process of being added - of course haha
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
100
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Posted - 2012.04.24 07:23:00 -
[96] - Quote
Maybe I missed it ....let ppl indicate price they are looking for, when toon was posted for sale, some sort of price suggestion so ppl dont keep asking on forums also possibly a thing where you can put in to find a character based off of another toon that you like and it could return results that are similar etc...buying a toon is pain in the butt with eve forums as they are |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
491
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Posted - 2012.04.28 12:29:00 -
[97] - Quote
Haha, I see you got the corp hopper ranking implemented: http://eveboard.com/fullranks/58-most-employers Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3339
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:38:00 -
[98] - Quote
So I need input - what is a good way of ranking pilots when one only has these categories:
Age (DoB) Longest employment Number of employer Security status (could be seen as two categories +/-)
Is there any way to calculate an overall rank based upon that. Could add in like being in a non-npc corp, being in an alliance, number of members in corp/alliance things like that.
Length of pilot name? lol Need ideas here to make it so even newer pilots can have a chance to place good on a rank as well.
/c
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
22
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:19:00 -
[99] - Quote
Chribba wrote:So I need input - what is a good way of ranking pilots when one only has these categories:
Age (DoB) Longest employment Number of employer Security status (could be seen as two categories +/-)
Is there any way to calculate an overall rank based upon that. Could add in like being in a non-npc corp, being in an alliance, number of members in corp/alliance things like that.
Length of pilot name? lol Need ideas here to make it so even newer pilots can have a chance to place good on a rank as well.
/c Hey Chribba,
I don't know if this is the kind of idea you're looking for, but given that date of birth is now in the API, how about creating two or three new ranking categories for characters of various age ranges? The rankings would be based on overall rank (the composite rank currently led by Viggen) calculated as it currently is, but be limited to characters within each designated age range. The ranking categories might look something like:
Top Rookies..... characters aged 0 to 1 year Fast Trackers.... characters aged 1 to 2 years Emerging Elite... characters aged 2 to 3 years
Or something like that.
I know that doesn't speak to all the limitations at the front of your post, but it may be a way to create a competitive arena, ranked and displayed, for younger characters, based on scores already being calculated for those characters. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3341
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:32:00 -
[100] - Quote
That is an interesting idea, this rank question however is in general and not related to the current ranking. But I like the idea on [eb] as it would create more dynamic ranks.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
494
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:29:00 -
[101] - Quote
How about getting ranked in:
Ratio between NPC and player corp employment time? Average empoyment per corp.
Isn't security status already ranked?
I know it wasn't feasable before but I would still love to see a ranking based on the number of blueprints a character can use.
Ok not entierly [eb] related but would it be possible to see the full top 100 ranking for the forum posters on eve-search? It might induce the wrath of CCP though... Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
T0Y
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:16:00 -
[102] - Quote
Is there any way you could place a limit, on those that appear in average SP/hour category? Say for example 10 to 50 million and another one of 50 million and over. This way we can see those that have a good sp/h rate instead of just seeing new players at the top. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3341
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:37:00 -
[103] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:How about getting ranked in:
Ratio between NPC and player corp employment time? Average empoyment per corp.
Isn't security status already ranked?
I know it wasn't feasable before but I would still love to see a ranking based on the number of blueprints a character can use.
Ok not entierly [eb] related but would it be possible to see the full top 100 ranking for the forum posters on eve-search? It might induce the wrath of CCP though... Security is ranked, my question though is for another part of [eb] not related to the current ranks at all. The ratio can be interesting although what is it to say that not being in a NPC corp is a good rank etc.
And for the TOP100 posters; 1. Akita T (31762) 2. Dark Shikari (28773) 3. Tippia (21510) 4. Malcanis (19587) 5. Liang Nuren (18708) 6. Joshua Calvert (17759) 7. Grimpak (16283) 8. Jim McGregor (14356) 9. HippoKing (13780) 10. Chribba (13623) 11. Danton Marcellus (13402) 12. MotherMoon (12911) 13. Jenny Spitfire (12664) 14. Chainsaw Plankton (11839) 15. Sokratesz (11505) 16. Crumplecorn (11468) 17. Avon (11347) 18. Maya Rkell (11338) 19. Rodj Blake (11244) 20. Zeba (10912) 21. Rod Blaine (10618) 22. F'nog (10444) 23. Blane Xero (10421) 24. Jade Constantine (10345) 25. Tarminic (10167) 26. Nyphur (10137) 27. j0sephine (10054) 28. Joshua Foiritain (9666) 29. Venkul Mul (9498) 30. Lady Spank (9104) 31. Cpt Branko (8798) 32. Nova Fox (8685) 33. Surfin's PlunderBunny (8668) 34. Malthros Zenobia (8638) 35. Goumindong (8554) 36. RaTTuS (8528) 37. Dirk Magnum (8447) 38. Verone (8441) 39. Nafri (8439) 40. lofty29 (7989) 41. Abrazzar (7794) 42. Micheal Dietrich (7694) 43. Estel Arador (7602) 44. Sheriff Jones (7502) 45. Winterblink (7494) 46. Tau Cabalander (7402) 47. Baldour Ngarr (7370) 48. Patch86 (7350) 49. Deja Thoris (7308) 50. Discorporation (7241) 51. Siigari Kitawa (7172) 52. Vaerah Vahrokha (7172) 53. James Lyrus (7133) 54. Nikolai Nuvolari (7009) 55. CCP Navigator (6991) 56. baltec1 (6952) 57. Seleene (6940) 58. Mara Rinn (6687) 59. Slade Trillgon (6658) 60. Tyrrax Thorrk (6596) 61. Sarmaul (6576) 62. Alara IonStorm (6536) 63. Shar Tegral (6463) 64. Misanth (6450) 65. NoNah (6340) 66. TimMc (6271) 67. Sakura Nihil (6179) 68. Gariuys (6174) 69. Ranger 1 (6090) 70. Asestorian (6083) 71. Lance Fighter (6015) 72. Butter Dog (6000) 73. Armoured C (5959) 74. Arvald (5953) 75. Kahega Amielden (5939) 76. Pottsey (5864) 77. dalman (5857) 78. Jim Raynor (5828) 79. Dianabolic (5809) 80. Joe Starbreaker (5793) 81. darth solo (5788) 82. Ghoest (5757) 83. Brock Nelson (5724) 84. ParMizaN (5717) 85. LaVista Vista (5693) 86. Wild Rho (5671) 87. Rawr Cristina (5648) 88. Barakkus (5641) 89. CCP Zymurgist (5628) 90. Mashie Saldana (5603) 91. Eris Discordia (5562) 92. slothe (5552) 93. Hardin (5544) 94. Lana Torrin (5538) 95. Carniflex (5529) 96. LUKEC (5508) 97. Hirana Yoshida (5508) 98. Adunh Slavy (5502) 99. Gypsio III (5501) 100. CCP Mitnal (5500)
\o/ me I'm soon passing HK! haha
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3341
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:38:00 -
[104] - Quote
T0Y wrote:Is there any way you could place a limit, on those that appear in average SP/hour category? Say for example 10 to 50 million and another one of 50 million and over. This way we can see those that have a good sp/h rate instead of just seeing new players at the top. Yeah this is on the todo to fix just so the "new" pilots don't get up the top just bc they are new rather than having had a good sp/hour rate over time.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
494
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Posted - 2012.05.02 11:47:00 -
[105] - Quote
Wel I guess you could do two lists for the corp/npc ratio, one for highest corp ratio and one for higest npc ratio. The problem is that you will get cyno alts to top the npc ratio. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Viggen
4
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Posted - 2012.05.02 17:05:00 -
[106] - Quote
Some nice ideas going around atm. I'd still like to see the number of skills trained to x level fixed though. Currently when you train up a skill to say level 5, that skill will no longer count in your "skills trained to level 4" rank. They should count up the same as the certifcates rankings.
It makes sense that if a player has a skill trained to lvl 5, then they should also have that skill counted in the lower levels and not be penalised. This is the way the skill system works. You would not be happy if you trained battleship lvl 2 to fly a tier 2 ship, only to find your no longer allowed to fly a tier 1 ship. |
Resolute Stormbringer
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:22:00 -
[107] - Quote
Viggen wrote:Some nice ideas going around atm. I'd still like to see the number of skills trained to x level fixed though. Currently when you train up a skill to say level 5, that skill will no longer count in your "skills trained to level 4" rank. They should count up the same as the certifcates rankings.
It makes sense that if a player has a skill trained to lvl 5, then they should also have that skill counted in the lower levels and not be penalised. This is the way the skill system works. You would not be happy if you trained battleship lvl 2 to fly a tier 2 ship, only to find your no longer allowed to fly a tier 1 ship.
This was something I proposed a couple of years ago. It would be nice to see this implemented.
It's crazy that we start going backwards when we improve our characters.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
505
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:58:00 -
[108] - Quote
Resolute Stormbringer wrote:Viggen wrote:Some nice ideas going around atm. I'd still like to see the number of skills trained to x level fixed though. Currently when you train up a skill to say level 5, that skill will no longer count in your "skills trained to level 4" rank. They should count up the same as the certifcates rankings.
It makes sense that if a player has a skill trained to lvl 5, then they should also have that skill counted in the lower levels and not be penalised. This is the way the skill system works. You would not be happy if you trained battleship lvl 2 to fly a tier 2 ship, only to find your no longer allowed to fly a tier 1 ship. This was something I proposed a couple of years ago. It would be nice to see this implemented. It's crazy that we start going backwards when we improve our characters. True but I rather have many level 5s than a high eb rank. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Fergall Acheilleus
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:35:00 -
[109] - Quote
[Edit: Link] http://eveboard.com/fullranks/58-most-employers
LMAO Thank you Chribba for that page! It gives me much amusement :)
Umbrella Group still lives..... |
Ringo Miromme
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 18:57:00 -
[110] - Quote
Hi,
from a statsjunky persective i'd like to suggest some finer grained stats on skills and recently finished skills would be nice.
today we have these stats
Total skillpoints: 3,589,858,348,913 Total skills: 14,799,029
Is it possible to get an overview regarding each skill and level? Currently we got an overview about the avarage.
Something like a breakdown how many capsulars have trained level 1- 5 and rate of change maybe 24h or 7d.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
511
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Posted - 2012.05.14 19:40:00 -
[111] - Quote
Ringo Miromme wrote:Is it possible to get an overview regarding each skill and level? Currently we got an overview about the avarage.
Something like a breakdown how many capsulars have trained level 1- 5 and rate of change maybe 24h or 7d.
Like this http://eveboard.com/statistics/skills or something with even more details? Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
734
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:41:00 -
[112] - Quote
Chribba,
Could you take a look at Aandaan. It looks a little fishy:
Time remaining -41d 10h 34m 04s (skill finished)
I have his full API (corp member) so I know he's currently at 144,789,290 SP and training EM Armor Compensation 5 (6d left). |
Vessper
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
10
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:57:00 -
[113] - Quote
Target Breaker skill is not showing up on character sheets (well, mine at least). Seem to recall training that skill caused some issues too so not sure if you've updated the DB for that skill.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3627
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Posted - 2012.06.02 13:11:00 -
[114] - Quote
DB isn't up to date yet that's why the breaker is not in. Soon...
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Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
2
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
Viggen wrote:Some nice ideas going around atm. I'd still like to see the number of skills trained to x level fixed though. Currently when you train up a skill to say level 5, that skill will no longer count in your "skills trained to level 4" rank. They should count up the same as the certifcates rankings.
It makes sense that if a player has a skill trained to lvl 5, then they should also have that skill counted in the lower levels and not be penalised. This is the way the skill system works. You would not be happy if you trained battleship lvl 2 to fly a tier 2 ship, only to find your no longer allowed to fly a tier 1 ship. Yes that would be good, and this would also allow to count for the global ranking L1 and L2 skills. |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
29
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:11:00 -
[116] - Quote
Hmm... there's an interesting race developing for the number 3 seat on the Board of Fame. Only 51 points separate players in ranks 3 through 6...
{friendly bump}
Dr Caymus -=ATI=-
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
118
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Posted - 2012.07.07 08:16:00 -
[117] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:How about getting ranked in:
Ratio between NPC and player corp employment time? Average empoyment per corp.
Isn't security status already ranked?
I know it wasn't feasable before but I would still love to see a ranking based on the number of blueprints a character can use.
Ok not entierly [eb] related but would it be possible to see the full top 100 ranking for the forum posters on eve-search? It might induce the wrath of CCP though... Security is ranked, my question though is for another part of [eb] not related to the current ranks at all. The ratio can be interesting although what is it to say that not being in a NPC corp is a good rank etc. And for the TOP100 posters; 1. Akita T (31762) 2. Dark Shikari (28773) 3. Tippia (21510) 4. Malcanis (19587) 5. Liang Nuren (18708) 6. Joshua Calvert (17759) 7. Grimpak (16283) 8. Jim McGregor (14356) 9. HippoKing (13780) 10. Chribba (13623) 11. Danton Marcellus (13402) 12. MotherMoon (12911) 13. Jenny Spitfire (12664) 14. Chainsaw Plankton (11839) \o/ me I'm soon passing HK! haha
only a few 1000 more posts to the top 10!!! (not even over 12,000 right now!) although looking at that 100 list I see a bunch of names I don't see these days
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Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
2
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Posted - 2012.07.09 21:47:00 -
[118] - Quote
WOW , it seems that soon there will be 50000 characters in eveboard. Congratulations |
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2012.07.10 19:42:00 -
[119] - Quote
Hey Chribbs!
Created the account for my main (obviously not my postman) long time ago. Still can access it but with old data, since it requires a new api. Would like to inject but cannot find anyplace where.
All its saying is ID: and below: vCode:
Am i to dumb?
Any help welcome. |
Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
2
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Posted - 2012.07.16 07:00:00 -
[120] - Quote
Postman, I think that you only need to make a new api key, and then log in with it. It will replace the old one automatically.
Chribba, looking my character, I see that in standings / faction standings, the sisters are not there. I think that they should be added, and used for the average standing. This might be the reason why there are so few players with a positive average faction standing. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4226
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Posted - 2012.07.16 07:32:00 -
[121] - Quote
Maybe the sisters got lost in the db somewhere, will have to take a look at that.
@Postman, yeah generate a new api key and it should all be good. Would suggest using the api links in order to generate a key that has all the permissions needed.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4226
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:01:00 -
[122] - Quote
Lurkers of this thread - and this post specifically will get a preview of the newest addition to [eb] - [eb]Global
Add /global to get there and look around before it's being announced/linked as a "live" part of the site.
G-rankings, I'm not really sure how/if they should even be on there since it's somewhat limited and I can't really see them moving around that much.
/c
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Estel Again
Defense Industries
43
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Posted - 2012.07.20 19:47:00 -
[123] - Quote
Sweet! Could you elaborate a bit on how it works / how it gets its data?
Also you should probably filter CCP/GM/ISD characters, or list them seperately. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4231
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Posted - 2012.07.21 19:20:00 -
[124] - Quote
It gets all its data from CCP's API. No space magic.
As for the CCP pilots, it would be a manual flag that's needs to be set if so, since they have no special tag by default.
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Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
2
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Posted - 2012.07.23 01:06:00 -
[125] - Quote
thank you for putting the sisters, and the society in the standing window The eveboard global is interresting, but feels strange with CCP characters. Perhaps removing characters older than the game launching date after importing the data would give more "normal" statistics. There might still be some strange characters, but at least a good quantity would be removed. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
562
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Posted - 2012.07.23 15:40:00 -
[126] - Quote
That is pretty cool, and lol at 1300+ employers :D Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
grassy 420
Pathfinders.
4
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:34:00 -
[127] - Quote
great site! |
digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
91
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Posted - 2012.07.29 22:54:00 -
[128] - Quote
My char seems to be MIA on the database?......Any particular reason why it happened? |
Scientia Vinco
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 09:22:00 -
[129] - Quote
I can register any characters... =(
Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: Key has expired. Contact key owner for access renewal.
I am using a new api key that is set to never expire and this is what I see every time I try to make an account. I have tried several different api keys, this is really getting frustrating. |
digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
91
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Posted - 2012.07.31 23:35:00 -
[130] - Quote
Scientia Vinco wrote:I can register any characters... =(
Error encountered Error occured trying to fetch API, Message: Key has expired. Contact key owner for access renewal.
I am using a new api key that is set to never expire and this is what I see every time I try to make an account. I have tried several different api keys, this is really getting frustrating.
I did the same thing and created a new API wih no expiry date and it still isn't accepted for some reason. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4339
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:53:00 -
[131] - Quote
If both of you send me your API keys/userid I wil take a manual look at it - might be something still in system preventing you from registering. If in doubt also use the API shortcut on [eb] when creating the key to ensure all needed permissions are included.
@digital - the last API error that disabled your account said "Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!" - sounds like not all permissions needed were included in your key there.
/c
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Aichi Awara
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:34:00 -
[132] - Quote
Has something changed in the way EB calculates overall ranking?
It seems that overnight one of my characters went down circa ~2'000 in rankings while the amount of new players changed only little... or could injecting two new skills affect in a such a dramatic way?
Tho other character still has about the same ranking as yesterday despite injecting new skills to her too. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4348
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Posted - 2012.08.03 09:44:00 -
[133] - Quote
The calculations are always weird haha, but it might be that new pilots get a different value compared to older ones if they went over the "limit" of number of pilots. I will try look into if there's something weird going on.
/c
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digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
91
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:03:00 -
[134] - Quote
My key seems to be working now and i didn't change any permissions..... |
Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
2
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:54:00 -
[135] - Quote
Hello, I think it would be nice to be able to compare the character with others of similar date. For example to put a filter that compares everything but instead of with all players, only those that have + - 1 year for example. Now except for 1 player (2005), all top 10 players are very old (2003). That is normal. But it would be nice to know how more recent players are ranked with others of similar beginning. If not, if we could see next to the column of the ranks, also the year so we can easily see similar players.
In the same way, there could also be a rank with top 10 year 2003, top 10 year 2004, top 10 year 2005...
That is only a suggestion. If it is too much work, or seems a bad idea, forget it ;)
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4654
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Posted - 2012.08.27 10:37:00 -
[136] - Quote
[eb] might be querying API info from different IP's than the normal while I am experiencing routing issues to CCP's servers.
Will be IP's ending on .9 and .56
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4989
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:37:00 -
[137] - Quote
Posting to keep this thread unlocked.
/c
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Lost True
Paradise project
1894
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Posted - 2012.10.10 05:30:00 -
[138] - Quote
How about a corp standings rank? Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5039
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:38:00 -
[139] - Quote
Lost True wrote:How about a corp standings rank? Explain further please
/c
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Lost True
Paradise project
1939
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:43:00 -
[140] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Lost True wrote:How about a corp standings rank? Explain further please /c The number that represents the average standings to an NPC corps that player has.
Or it's can be more complex and interesting:
Most loyal = (Corp_1 + Corp_2+Corp_N) * (AVERAGE_STANDING/10)
If it'll be just an average of all, there will be a flaw: if the player doing missions for 1 corp all his life, it's a 100% win.
The second formula it's something interesting now when i've thought about that.
It's shows exactly how good the player's connections with an NPC's. A hell of a race for carebears, one more interesting thing for such a boring activity :) And it's can't be screwed by having a lot of 5.0 standings which are far more easily to achive, it's not be at the top when the player has one 10.0 corp, and some low corp standings will not ruin the entire work. Althrough it'll be good to raise them. Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5042
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:32:00 -
[141] - Quote
Ok so pretty much the same as this http://eveboard.com/fullranks/51-highest-average-faction-standing but for a corporation instead?
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Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
18
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:17:00 -
[142] - Quote
As a rank seeker, might you add an asterisk or other indicator to the categories that are included in the global rank calculation?
And many thanks for your great EvE works.
Ford Chicago |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
53
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:45:00 -
[143] - Quote
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Canabi
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.10.14 01:46:00 -
[144] - Quote
Dr. Caymus, have you deleted your EB sheet? Or have you stopped playing the game? |
Lost True
Paradise project
1944
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Posted - 2012.10.14 02:04:00 -
[145] - Quote
Much like it. But with some differencies. Because there is many corps, which player can have or don't have. Also because the corp standings are not affected by working for an opposite faction. Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Lost True
Paradise project
1944
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Posted - 2012.10.14 02:05:00 -
[146] - Quote
Canabi wrote:Dr. Caymus, have you deleted your EB sheet? Or have you stopped playing the game? What? Well, that's sucks... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
53
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Posted - 2012.10.14 04:19:00 -
[147] - Quote
Canabi wrote:Dr. Caymus, have you deleted your EB sheet? Or have you stopped playing the game? Still here
My API stopped updating about 17 hours ago apparently as a result of an "illegal page request" error. I logged in and refreshed my settings, hopefully that will restore |
Bibosikus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.11.04 21:16:00 -
[148] - Quote
My rankings don't appear at all The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5402
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Posted - 2012.11.05 13:39:00 -
[149] - Quote
Bibosikus wrote:My rankings don't appear at all Probably a temporary glitch after CCP's server troubles, seems to be ok now.
/c
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Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers Independent Manufacturers Alliance
22
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:05:00 -
[150] - Quote
Chribba
Can you have a look and see why my sheet on EB says I'm training Amarr BS 5 but finished it 72 days ago, since I finished that I have trained Caldari BS 5 and Gallente BS 5 and am part way through Mini BS 5, but it doesn't seem to want to update my currently training skill.
Thanks
Drahcir
p.s. Yay, hit 250 lvl 5 skills when I finished Gall BS 5. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5681
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Posted - 2012.11.29 08:42:00 -
[151] - Quote
Should be fixed. Thanks for noticing.
/c
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1125
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:49:00 -
[152] - Quote
FYI, Ethnic Relations skill was converted to Diplomatic Relations. |
Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
18
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Posted - 2012.12.14 03:52:00 -
[153] - Quote
Chribba, when switching to the Ranks tab, my overall rank is often not presented/visible, however if I view the full list I can clearly see my char. I have noticed this behavior at many different times throughout the day and irrespective of whether or not my character has recently finished a skill.
As an example: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ford_Chicago/ranks (no rank displayed) http://eveboard.com/fullranks/p2/ (char listed at 1665)
I have tried updating my API keys and refreshing the character but I have not been able to consistently see a value on the ranks page.
Thanks for providing this site and service. Is there something I am doing wrong that prevents the rank page from calculating/populating? Is there anything I can do to ensure that the overall rank value is visible/present on the rank page?
Sincerely,
Ford Chicago
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5835
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Posted - 2012.12.14 07:02:00 -
[154] - Quote
@Tau Cabalander, will double-check that, it should have autoupdated when I put on the new db.
@Ford, ranks are calculated every 30 minutes, it might be that the calculation takes so long time that if you grab your page while it's doing its thing you will have - rank, and the rank pages are cached while the character pages are not. I'll look into if I can speed things up a bit.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
29
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Posted - 2012.12.19 00:28:00 -
[155] - Quote
Hi Chribba
I've noticed that a lot of players are showing up with way more sp in a given rank than the maximum availlable for all skills to 5 in the given catagory.
I believe it's due to old data not being cleared during an update and instead being added to the total of the new data, resulting in some players exceeding the maximum by several millions.
This error seems particularly rampant in the Navigation Catagory with the top 9 players listed with more than the maximum possible sp. but is also present in most other catagorys.
Is there any chance of this bug getting fixed?
Thanks. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5865
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Posted - 2012.12.19 07:51:00 -
[156] - Quote
Absolutely, I will look into it. I know that sometimes happens when calculating ranks if a table is locked at the time of the updates so might have to change the routines for table locks.
/c
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lyeta
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:57:00 -
[157] - Quote
Hi all,
Just wondering why the top 3 oldest ranked characters, are listed with their names shown, but the data hidden? Surely you can't have it both ways - either your hidden along with your data, or listed with your data.
Just wondering because I had the same situation a while back. Btw thanks for all your hard work and dedication on eveboard Chribba! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6647
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:20:00 -
[158] - Quote
Lyeta, this is on purpose, even if you hide your information the top 3 will never be anonymous in the rankings - this to prevent the top 3 to be anonymous.
Simply because I am not interested in seeing the top hiding, while they are free to hide all they wish, if they do qualify for top 3 they will be shown for others to envy lol
So really the ISK category would be the sensitive one, a user is free to hide their ISK value and thus be delisted from that category, but not allowed to hide all and still be ranked.
/c
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
4
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Posted - 2012.12.31 14:16:00 -
[159] - Quote
Just back after a complete year of EVE absence. Despite no training at all for 12 months still around No 200 on eveboard, as I see ...
I think I have proposed it already a couple years ago, but I would like to iterate this idea again:
What about a blueprint ranking for the industrialists among us?
Just add the number of blueprints one can manufacture, ML research, PL research, copy and invent, and rank it. Seems to be quite easy, and probably could add an interesting different aspect to the global pilot ranking. |
Kye Do'lan
The Whitesands Consortium
45
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Posted - 2012.12.31 17:27:00 -
[160] - Quote
Hi Chribba Just wondering, where does the overall rank come from, I am number 31 on the list and want to know how i got to 31
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kye_Do%27lan |
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stoicfaux
2191
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:17:00 -
[161] - Quote
Bug: EveBoard has the Hulk and Mackinaw Exhumers requiring Exhumers III and II respectively. They should only require Exhumers I.
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Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
24
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Posted - 2013.01.05 18:59:00 -
[162] - Quote
I love Eveboard.
Just another thank you to Chribba for this fantastic service.
Would you post the ranking algorithm again?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6771
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Posted - 2013.01.05 19:31:00 -
[163] - Quote
It's an average of different categories, the higher overall average the better rank overall.
/c
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
4
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Posted - 2013.01.05 20:09:00 -
[164] - Quote
This question seems to be asked at least once each month. Why don't you just add to the starting page of eveboard the calculation algorithm, including mentioning which categories are included in the calculation?
Would you mind to comment on this idea a bit?:
Juwi Kotch wrote:What about a blueprint ranking for the industrialists among us?
Just add the number of blueprints one can manufacture, ML research, PL research, copy and invent, and rank it. Seems to be quite easy, and probably could add an interesting different aspect to the global pilot ranking.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6771
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Posted - 2013.01.05 22:11:00 -
[165] - Quote
@stoicfaux, Will look into that and the db info.
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Canabi
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
30
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:22:00 -
[166] - Quote
Chribba wrote:@stoicfaux, Will look into that and the db info.
Also, are you going to be adding the new Destroyers into the ships database? If you're already working on it, please ignore this message. Also, thanks for EB. 07 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6777
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:55:00 -
[167] - Quote
Canabi wrote:Chribba wrote:@stoicfaux, Will look into that and the db info. Also, are you going to be adding the new Destroyers into the ships database? If you're already working on it, please ignore this message. Also, thanks for EB. 07 Should be taken care of now.
/c
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Hendrik Tiberius
Avatar Research Nightshade Equilibrium
4
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Posted - 2013.01.12 19:07:00 -
[168] - Quote
Hello Chribba,
I noticed a minor inconsistency when I looked at the ships I can not fly. link to my EB ships page The Minmatar Command Ship Sleipnir is on the Gallente Line and doesn't have its own symbol. Also the Industrials look a bit different to the other ships. They appear on the right side with no empire symbol at all.
Just wanted to let you know. Thanks for eveboard! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6866
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Posted - 2013.01.12 19:22:00 -
[169] - Quote
I'll look into it when I can
/c
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
5
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:54:00 -
[170] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:Would you mind to comment on this idea a bit?: Juwi Kotch wrote:What about a blueprint ranking for the industrialists among us?
Just add the number of blueprints one can manufacture, ML research, PL research, copy and invent, and rank it. Seems to be quite easy, and probably could add an interesting different aspect to the global pilot ranking. I feel ignored ...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6890
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Posted - 2013.01.13 20:51:00 -
[171] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:Juwi Kotch wrote:Would you mind to comment on this idea a bit?: Juwi Kotch wrote:What about a blueprint ranking for the industrialists among us?
Just add the number of blueprints one can manufacture, ML research, PL research, copy and invent, and rank it. Seems to be quite easy, and probably could add an interesting different aspect to the global pilot ranking. I feel ignored ... I'm sorry you feel ignored, that's not my intention at all, the calculations however to list that sort of thing is much harder than simply "sort by sp", since it involves doing a check per pilot and multiple skills, that's the main reason why that rank has fallen behind.
/c
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
5
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Posted - 2013.01.13 21:18:00 -
[172] - Quote
Thanks for the answer!
I have no idea what such an addition would entail, and if you say its too much work for now, you may note this as a project for some future revision or expansion of eveboard. I'd like that! "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Somni451 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7176
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Posted - 2013.02.16 16:30:00 -
[173] - Quote
anti-lock post also for those that hasn't seen [db] yet - http://dustboard.com
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
5
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:35:00 -
[174] - Quote
Woah... 1.5 mil mercenaries already? How many can an account have? "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7185
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Posted - 2013.02.17 00:12:00 -
[175] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:Woah... 1.5 mil mercenaries already? How many can an account have? Same as EVE, 3.
When it just opened up there was as much as 6,000 mercs born PER HOUR. Crazy creation rate (but then, anyone can sign up for a PSN account and create his/her merc via the webpage regardless if you own a PS3 or not).
/c
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Lost True
Paradise project
2055
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:23:00 -
[176] - Quote
A very good site :) I'm playing it more then the game itself :)
A couple of proposals from me...
1. The progression tab: Skillpoint chart is ALWAYS flat, because the SP scales from 0. It's shoul be from minimum to maximum at the selected time period. Then this chart will make sense.
2. How about the chart for rankings? For example, i would find quite interesting to see how my SP rank is jumping up and down.
3. It's can be difficult, but how about the realtime, or daily SP update even when the skill is in progress - like in EVEMon? It's not so comfortable with long skills, when the character not progressing for the long time and then suddenly BOOM :) How boring is this... Gone to play STO long ago. It's has a hell of lot of flaws, but at least in it i can do more than just meaningless PvP here. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7370
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:46:00 -
[177] - Quote
All three pretty good ideas that I will take with me to the todo list and see what I can make of them.
/c
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
76
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Posted - 2013.03.09 20:56:00 -
[178] - Quote
Lost True wrote:
3. It's can be difficult, but how about the realtime, or daily SP update even when the skill is in progress - like in EVEMon? It's not so comfortable with long skills, when the character not progressing for the long time and then suddenly BOOM :)
As a work-around, you can pause training, then resume, to update your total on eveboard. |
BOBHOPE
0
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Posted - 2013.03.10 17:20:00 -
[179] - Quote
Hey Chribba,
I love eveboard, that coupled with aura let's me enjoy my eve addictions during the long hours rl takes me from home ;)
Whilst the ranking thing is being mentioned, I thought about an idea a while ago that expands on overall rank and has a sub-categories; Overall (as now) Combat (every skill relating to combat) Industry (same) Economic(the bad ppl lol)
And anything else that others might like thrown in...
Afterall, there are many diverse paths in this great game.
Keep up good work and happy flying :) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7378
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:38:00 -
[180] - Quote
Yup there's a whole set of way one can be ranked and "measured" based upon those categories, I'll see what I can fit in to make sorta a type-o-meter at least to see if a character is leaned more towards either category.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
618
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Posted - 2013.03.13 21:45:00 -
[181] - Quote
I'm still waiting for the ranking based on bloodline/ancestry. *nudge* *nudge* Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Neurotic Cat
Helping Hand Acceptance Corporation
2
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:56:00 -
[182] - Quote
eveboard is awesome. keep up the good work.
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Lost True
Paradise project
2055
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Posted - 2013.03.16 11:28:00 -
[183] - Quote
Another thing that i think could be interesting is comments for each character :) How boring is this... Gone to play STO long ago. It's has a hell of lot of flaws, but at least in it i can do more than just meaningless PvP here. I know what i talking about, noobs :)-áhttp://eveboard.com/pilot/lost%20true |
Beta Stryker
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
19
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:27:00 -
[184] - Quote
@Chribba or anyone who can guide me -
Was the feature mentioned in this post ever implemented?
OldForums.EveOnline.Com
I use both Evemon and EveHQ, in case you developed for one or the other. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8101
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:23:00 -
[185] - Quote
Semi, it was never put online due to some rewrites that were needed for the removal of wallet etc.
But it is not forgotten.
/c
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Nometh Xergent
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
286
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:45:00 -
[186] - Quote
Hello, the site suffers from some lag, badly imo. With great responsibility comes great DPS.-á |
Kelby
16
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:37:00 -
[187] - Quote
Not sure if this is a bug or by design. I've noticed on the ships section that a number of ships are missing, maybe just the ORE ships?
Theres also some missing image resources in the ships section, by the looks of it the missing images are just for the recent flood of special edition ships.
Thanks for a great site! |
Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
25
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:17:00 -
[188] - Quote
The skill Micro Jump Drive Operation is not listed when comparing characters. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8432
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:13:00 -
[189] - Quote
I'm gonna try get around fixing the missing ships and icons as well as skills.
/c
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
273
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Posted - 2013.06.05 08:19:00 -
[190] - Quote
http://eveboard.com/pilot/RaTTuS shows I've completed all the subsystem skills - however most of them I only have 1 SP left to go .. is there some sort of rounding error? http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8504
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Posted - 2013.06.06 07:11:00 -
[191] - Quote
RaTTuS wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/RaTTuS shows I've completed all the subsystem skills - however most of them I only have 1 SP left to go .. is there some sort of rounding error? Not on my side at least... I checked the actual XML and many skills are one point off. This is something on CCP's side. I'll poke them. (there was some oddities recently where some 4 hours of skill training got missing for me, eve mon showed 4 hours left while in-game skill was already completed)
/c
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 09:31:00 -
[192] - Quote
Looks like the battlecruiser and destroyer skill changes have not been introduced to eveboard yet ... "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
273
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Posted - 2013.06.06 09:59:00 -
[193] - Quote
+1mil to Chribba http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8505
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:45:00 -
[194] - Quote
@Juwi Kotch, thanks will look into it @RaTTuS, CCP is looking at it now, but they sorta hate me now haha, by the looks this could be a bug that has been in since many many years, I poked around in the db and found pilots from 2009 carrying this type of invalid sp
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Lost True
Paradise project
2335
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:15:00 -
[195] - Quote
It's not bothers me at all, but there is a bug that i've noticed long time ago. There is an interesting character that have the same stats as me everytime: The skills, the current skills, even the corp... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lost_True http://eveboard.com/pilot/LuckyGuy
https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/LuckyGuy
The guy is really lucky to be the number 1 in my corp in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
279
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:20:00 -
[196] - Quote
Chribba wrote: @RaTTuS, CCP is looking at it now, but they sorta hate me now haha, by the looks this could be a bug that has been in since many many years, I poked around in the db and found pilots from 2009 carrying this type of invalid sp
this seems to be a bug in the api - it uses a bad fp value so they get rounded ...... AIUI http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8565
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:15:00 -
[197] - Quote
RaTTuS wrote:Chribba wrote: @RaTTuS, CCP is looking at it now, but they sorta hate me now haha, by the looks this could be a bug that has been in since many many years, I poked around in the db and found pilots from 2009 carrying this type of invalid sp
this seems to be a bug in the api - it uses a bad fp value so they get rounded ...... AIUI I've been discussing this with Prism and it appears it's more than just the API (or at least I even found myself having missing a sp both in-game and in api on certain skills). Not sure how/if CCP plans to fix this.
/c
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1964
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:09:00 -
[198] - Quote
As far as I know, this is the new way to do predefined API keys:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/CreatePredefined?accessMask=59645960
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8724
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:59:00 -
[199] - Quote
Thanks, will put that on the change list, although the old link should still be usable thanks to CCP's redirects.
/c
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Marianne Pollard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.06.26 13:46:00 -
[200] - Quote
Chribba wrote: Thanks, will put that on the change list, although the old link should still be usable thanks to CCP's redirects.
/c
It does work, yes.
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Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
86
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:23:00 -
[201] - Quote
They are NOT our friends. Consoles are ruining the gaming industry and they stole/took away DUST514 from us...
Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |
DTson Gauur
Underground-Operators Illuminantur Dominium Sicarioum
7
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:53:00 -
[202] - Quote
Chribba,
What might be wrong with my data on eveboard? The key I use is exclusive to eveboard and the sheet claims that my skill in training is/was Black Ops 5...
Training Currently training Black Ops to level 5 Time remaining -133d 4h 45m 58s (skill finished) ETA Completed 2013-02-19 09:00:53 (EVE-Time)
http://eveboard.com/pilot/DTson_Gauur
I even tried to update the key to no avail. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8785
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:09:00 -
[203] - Quote
@DTson, fixed
/c
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Orion Pax
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:20:00 -
[204] - Quote
Found a bug where I don't see Armor Honeycombing when comparing toons. Please fix. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8802
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:12:00 -
[205] - Quote
Orion Pax wrote:Found a bug where I don't see Armor Honeycombing when comparing toons. Please fix.
Thanks adding to list. Should be fixed now.
/c
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Aaron Rex
The Fated E.Y
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:17:00 -
[206] - Quote
I've had a weird issue in that even after trying to update my API twice it still keeps saying that I'm still training Mining Frigates lvl5, even though I finished that ages ago. |
Ronix Aideron
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
102
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:22:00 -
[207] - Quote
I have the same problem. My skills are correct but the currently training is not. Start the day off slow and taper off from there.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron |
TheFu
Pork Chop Express
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:21:00 -
[208] - Quote
Having an issue with updating my API key on EveBoard.
I have returning to Eve actively and I believe I remember my ID and have a new API key as indicated. However logging in to my account to proceed with updating from my old legacy key seems to not be working.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8873
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:02:00 -
[209] - Quote
TheFu wrote:Having an issue with updating my API key on EveBoard.
I have returning to Eve actively and I believe I remember my ID and have a new API key as indicated. However logging in to my account to proceed with updating from my old legacy key seems to not be working.
Logging on with your new key, selecting "register characters" if it is displayed, once at the list of your chars - click save settings on the characters you want to update the key for.
/c
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TheFu
Pork Chop Express
0
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:59:00 -
[210] - Quote
Chribba wrote:TheFu wrote:Having an issue with updating my API key on EveBoard.
I have returning to Eve actively and I believe I remember my ID and have a new API key as indicated. However logging in to my account to proceed with updating from my old legacy key seems to not be working.
Logging on with your new key, selecting "register characters" if it is displayed, once at the list of your chars - click save settings on the characters you want to update the key for. /c
Thank you for hte reply Chribba. it seems I don't recall my ID correctly. Is there a method for recovery? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8894
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:54:00 -
[211] - Quote
TheFu wrote:Chribba wrote:TheFu wrote:Having an issue with updating my API key on EveBoard.
I have returning to Eve actively and I believe I remember my ID and have a new API key as indicated. However logging in to my account to proceed with updating from my old legacy key seems to not be working.
Logging on with your new key, selecting "register characters" if it is displayed, once at the list of your chars - click save settings on the characters you want to update the key for. /c Thank you for hte reply Chribba. it seems I don't recall my ID correctly. Is there a method for recovery? Usually generate a new id/key.
/c
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Menero Orti
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:43:00 -
[212] - Quote
So C... when was the last time that you added new features to EB? To be frank that site looks like it was designed in 2003 but yeah it can be very useful for some informations but what irritated me was the fact that i looked at the sales section and i only seen like what skills i need to set-up but you should add more general terms like from those settings display toons with a maximum sp pool of 20mil not to get some random/random/random/random toons all over the place |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8918
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:35:00 -
[213] - Quote
Menero Orti wrote:So C... when was the last time that you added new features to EB? To be frank that site looks like it was designed in 2003 but yeah it can be very useful for some informations but what irritated me was the fact that i looked at the sales section and i only seen like what skills i need to set-up but you should add more general terms like from those settings display toons with a maximum sp pool of 20mil not to get some random/random/random/random toons all over the place Depends on what you mean by feature, there's been changes and minor additions, but the last major one was longer than I would have wanted.
Not really sure what you mean by the sale display thing, you want more filters or? Because the way I saw it was that you don't want to see pilots for sale above 20m sp?
As for design, yeah it's crappy, I'm terrible at design/gfx so that's why it looks like your granddad designed it
/c
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Rengerel en Distel
1724
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:46:00 -
[214] - Quote
Menero Orti wrote:So C... when was the last time that you added new features to EB? To be frank that site looks like it was designed in 2003 but yeah it can be very useful for some informations but what irritated me was the fact that i looked at the sales section and i only seen like what skills i need to set-up but you should add more general terms like from those settings display toons with a maximum sp pool of 20mil not to get some random/random/random/random toons all over the place
Can we see your free site you have set up for comparison?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
640
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Posted - 2013.07.29 09:01:00 -
[215] - Quote
Chribba, did you stumble over the power lead? Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9029
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Posted - 2013.07.29 09:24:00 -
[216] - Quote
Nope, I've been battling some oddities ever since I upgraded the RAM. Getting latch-timeouts on the database that leads to corruption at times.
Trying to figure out where the problem lies if it's hardware or software related. Have seen odd stuff being broken RAM reported as HDD I/O problems so really unsure. Trying some alternative techniques atm.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
663
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:18:00 -
[217] - Quote
Hey Chribba, are you still investigating the issues?
I just noticed the custom signature feature is pretty broken at the moment. The uploaded custom backgrounds don't show and if you hit preview you get:
500 - Internal server error. There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed.
Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Kithran
65
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:26:00 -
[218] - Quote
Just happened to spot the pre-reqs for the revenant are wrong on eveboard - it says I can't fly one but in game stats say amarr carrier I and caldari carrier I. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9210
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Posted - 2013.08.23 06:09:00 -
[219] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, are you still investigating the issues? I just noticed the custom signature feature is pretty broken at the moment. The uploaded custom backgrounds don't show and if you hit preview you get: 500 - Internal server error. There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed. Edit - Seems to be working now. Right I fixed that after you posted it, then I forgot to reply saying I fixed it
Will look at the Revenant skills.
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:58:00 -
[220] - Quote
There have been massive changes to skill related things with the last patch. Regrouping of skills, renaming of skill groups, new skill groups, deleted skill groups, renaming of skills, and of course new added skills. All that will potentially have significant effects on the Eveboard rankings, and might warrant the already mentioned complete overhaul of the Eveboard page.
Any ETA for implementing those changes to Eveboard, Chribba? "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
333
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Posted - 2013.09.04 10:21:00 -
[221] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/FHqaU5Z.png for a brief moment I have #1 http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nxJJVyV |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9323
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Posted - 2013.09.04 11:53:00 -
[222] - Quote
Yep I'm fully aware of the changes. I aim to have it fixed by Friday when I'm back from the US.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
699
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Posted - 2013.09.05 15:04:00 -
[223] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Yep I'm fully aware of the changes. I aim to have it fixed by Friday when I'm back from the US.
/c Did you come back a day early as it seems to have been changed now (at least some of it). Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9325
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Posted - 2013.09.05 15:28:00 -
[224] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Chribba wrote:Yep I'm fully aware of the changes. I aim to have it fixed by Friday when I'm back from the US.
/c Did you come back a day early as it seems to have been changed now (at least some of it). Nope I'm back on scheduled time, just gave myself a bit extra since I wasn't sure what I need to do fully. I've updated the db, but I will need to rewrite groups fully as they are not dynamic (ranking of groups) as well as sort out the missing icons - so this may not be ready by tomorrow depending on how much recoding is needed to be done.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
701
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:02:00 -
[225] - Quote
I guess you still are working on this as the skill groups on the ranking pages are broken now. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:29:00 -
[226] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:I guess you still are working on this as the skill groups on the ranking pages are broken now.
Only part that's updated for me is my skillsheet, everything else is broken.
Global Ranking main page and ranks page are still showing old groups, icons still missing, engineering, planet management and subsystem ranks are dead.
Hopefully Chribba is working on it. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9343
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:48:00 -
[227] - Quote
Yeah I'm running behind schedule with a bit too much other things going on at the moment, I apologize for the delay. I only had time to do the quick updates yet, ranks and everything (now that CCP changes groups) require a full recode of backend stuff including scripts and queries that calculate things. That's what takes time sadly.
But you are def not forgotten.
/c
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:18:00 -
[228] - Quote
When eveboard was born, I can remember that one of the goals was to allow younger members of the game to get recognized in a ranking system reflecting their relative achievements despite their comparetivly shorter time in game and thus less skillpoints.
This goal was never achieved afaik, the older the pilot and the more skillpoints he has, the higher he will be ranked.
However, when I recently looked at my rankings again, I found out that "Date of Birth" is ranked now as well. This, I believe, opens up the option to achieve the orginal goal of a "fair" ranking system: Include the rank of the pilots age into the equation. My proposal is to simply devide the overall ranking value (Towaoc's would be right now 895) by the rank of the age (Towaocs would be right now 78), giving him a new overall ranking value of 11.48.
This would reflect the overall skill based achievements of a pilot with regard to his age in game. A younger pilot could than be placed in the ranking hihger then a much older one, despite of having far less skills and skillpoints than that older pilot.
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Viggen
15
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:38:00 -
[229] - Quote
So would your new ranking system still mean the lower the score, the higher ranked that person would be?
TowaocGÇÖs new score would be 11.48 as you say.
My new score (currently ranked number 2 behind Towaoc) would be 0.74
Finally just checked out a character that was just over 1 year old but only had 55,074 skillpoints and he came out with a score of 1.05
IGÇÖm not seeing how this new system would work, placing a year old character with 1 day worth of skillpoints between myself and Towaoc.
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:49:00 -
[230] - Quote
Yes, the lower the score, the higher the rank.
Right now, the ranking simply rewards old pilots for being old and having had lots of time to amass skill points.
Originally, Eveboard was created to reward successfull pilots. in particular not just to reward high skill points like a different previous system of pilot ranking did (correct me Chribba, when I'm wrong). This goal was missed, obviously. With my proposal, this goal could finally be achieved, I believe.
Eveboard would then rank pilots according to their skill based efficiency relative to their age.
The outcome could be in fact that pilots ranked on the top right now would be reduced to mediocracy, while pilots ranked somewhere in the middle of the list right now will come up to the Top 1000. Eveboard would no longer reward just being old, but having a sound skill strategy across the board.
I can understand that most of the present Top 1000 pilots won't like this, especially some of the Top 100 pilots, which may find themselves again at a five digit place. On the other hand, tens of thousands of pilots would find a good skill strategy rewarded here, which are now listed in the middle of the list.
The best would be that Chribba would just run a calculation with this amended algorithm and shows us what happens. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9389
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:22:00 -
[231] - Quote
Help me create such an algorithm and I'd be happy to make the changes needed. atm I'm not entirely sure myself what the best way to achieve this is.
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.09.19 21:18:00 -
[232] - Quote
I'm all for making EB more diverse and giving everybody a chance to climb the rankings, but what your suggesting so far will just penalise one group in favour of another.
Using a players age in the calculation is a bad idea as its a variable that the player has no control over and cannot manipulate. So as these younger players get older and amass more sp they will start to decline down the ranks in favour of newer players.
The current system favours players who don't specialise but rather train skills in every ranked category, but at the same time does allow everybody to climb the ranks based on their own choice of skill training.
1 Solution might be to have several different Global ranks each targeted at different groups of players for example...
A rank for veteran players (the current Global Rank) Ranks for players who specialise in different professions like PVP, Industry, Mining, Trade, ect A Rank for younger players with less SP.
I don't think you can create a single ranking system that caters to all types of players equally, EVE is too big a sandbox with too much diversity to be covered by a single ranking system. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
495
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Posted - 2013.09.19 22:59:00 -
[233] - Quote
For quite awhile now, I have had two characters that I check rankings on.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/RavenPaine
http://eveboard.com/pilot/RaVeN_Revenge
Even though Paine is a year older, Revenge has better over all ranking. So I don't think that age is the 'end all' requirement.
And though I would like to see Paine move up the rankings, I have never thought he should bypass any veteran player who has More SP More level V's
Those 2 criteria are the most important to ranking, imo.
On a side note: The new skills categories seriously ruined some of my 'perfect' categories |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:01:00 -
[234] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Help me create such an algorithm and I'd be happy to make the changes needed. atm I'm not entirely sure myself what the best way to achieve this is. That's easy (I think, since I don't know how elaborate your algorithm is): Just add to your present algorithm "divided by rank of category "Date of Birth". "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:15:00 -
[235] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:I'm all for making EB more diverse and giving everybody a chance to climb the rankings, but what your suggesting so far will just penalise one group in favour of another. Using a players age in the calculation is a bad idea as its a variable that the player has no control over and cannot manipulate. So as these younger players get older and amass more sp they will start to decline down the ranks in favour of newer players. The current system favours players who don't specialise but rather train skills in every ranked category, but at the same time does allow everybody to climb the ranks based on their own choice of skill training. 1 Solution might be to have several different Global ranks each targeted at different groups of players for example... A rank for veteran players (the current Global Rank) Ranks for players who specialise in different professions like PVP, Industry, Mining, Trade, ect A Rank for younger players with less SP. I don't think you can create a single ranking system that caters to all types of players equally, EVE is too big a sandbox with too much diversity to be covered by a single ranking system. That's correct on many accounts, and probably a matter of taste what you want to achieve or recognize with such a ranking.
Right now. to get to the top, you need to have an old pilot (what you can't influence as well) and simply skill as evenly across the board as possible. Doing that and having more then 150 mil SP (what equals at least 7 or 8 years of playtime) and you will be in the Top 100. No effort here. Look at your pilots age and the number of skills, and you can guess quite exactly at what quart of the list he will be found.
So the Date of Birth is actually already factored in, but not taken into a relativizing account.
Right now, a pilot created past 2006 or so never has the chance to reach the Top 1000 of the list, unless all of the old pilots just stop playing. With my proposal, a fresh pilot will not start in the Top 1000 of Eveboard (at least I don't think so), but if he is willing to play this Metagame, he can come up to that place in a couple of years of playtime. You still need to skill as evenly across all skills as possible, but you don't need to be an old pilot as well to get high rank on Eveboard.
Having said this, I like your idea of different global rankings. However, I have no idea how that could be calculated, and what the strain on the server would be to calculate three or more rankings over 100,000 pilots or more. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9390
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:40:00 -
[236] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:Chribba wrote:Help me create such an algorithm and I'd be happy to make the changes needed. atm I'm not entirely sure myself what the best way to achieve this is. That's easy (I think, since I don't know how elaborate your algorithm is): Just add to your present algorithm "divided by rank of category "Date of Birth" at the end. x/2006-10-01 or DoB=days old...? I could possibly run some tests off that but I don't think it's just that simple but we will see what kind of values gets thrown out. As for example that could be abused by a pilot training for a certain category and only that, then adding a ton in queue maybe, and get super high score (or low which is better) while the pilot really played the system rather than being specced "overall good" or similar.
/c
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:35:00 -
[237] - Quote
It would be x / y = z
where x is the value of the present algorithm (for me it would be 4,165.20) and y is the rank of the category "Date of Birth" (for me it would be 4,815) and z would be the value for the new ranking, where the lowest value would be the highest rank
So for me it would be
4,165.20 / 4,815 = 0,865
what would resut in whatever rank on Eveboard.
For the algorithm you actually would only need to add "divided by y (as defined above)", unless your algorithm leading to x includes stuff which I don't know and would create inconsistencies here.
How having skills in queue would affect that, I can't see. Is "skill queue" included in your algorithm somehow? A pilot having specialized in just a few particular skillgroups would still get a bad overall ranking, since he would have terrible ranking in those skillgroups he has neglected. And that is already reflected in your algorithm, isn't it? "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Viggen
15
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Posted - 2013.09.20 14:51:00 -
[238] - Quote
Juwi,
The algorithm your presenting doesnGÇÖt work. Example BelowGǪ
Abandon AllHope (Oldest character, hence ranked 1 on DoB group) new score would be 8136.36
Drahcir Nasom (Most skills at lvl 5) new score would be 29.18
Dr Caymus (Most skillpoints) new score would be 10.82
Now the important bit..... A player I found with only 1mil skillpoints and getting on for 3 years old now would have a new score of 1.52
So obviously you can see that the 3 year old character with barely any training done at all would be ranked considerably higher than the others mentioned here.
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:15:00 -
[239] - Quote
Viggen, we do not know what rank a score of 20, of 100 or 8,000 will be. Abandon Allhope ist ranked around 2,200 right now, may be he would be ranked even higher with a score of around 8,000 (however I don't believe so).
But that is it in fact, what this is about. Eveboard was not meant to just list old pilots with a massive skillset on the top, but to provide an incentive for younger pilots to show an achievement based on skills.
There is no art or achievement in being ranked high because you have been in the game from its start. A ranking, where the age of the pilot is the major ingredient to come to the top is actually quite redundant. With my proposal, you can design your skill set in a way, that can come up high in Eveboards ranking despite being a younger pilot, whereas right now a pilot created 2008 or 2010 never has a chance to enter the Top 1000.
Of course, if you want this ranking reflect the simple fact that a pilot is old and has skilled without interruptions all the time, then my proposal will not work, since you do not only need to have the years, but also to have a well balanced skill set. This last part of the equation will probably become more important in the scoring then the simple mass of skillpoints, and thus give younger pilots a chance to actually play the metagame called Eveboard.
Personally, I have no idea where I myself would end up in such a ranking. I'm a relativly old pilot from 2005 with over 130 mil SP, and I could easily end up worse in the ranking then I do now. With the proposed change Eveboard may turn from a vanity platform for older pilots with little to no changes in the Top 1000 or Top 100 to a quite volatile race with lots of upstarts and younger pilots in the top quart ot the list. It could become something for the masses of EVE, instead for a small elite.
Having said this, Abandon Allhope will still rank number 1 in age, Drahcir Nasom number one in lvl5 skills, and Dr. Caymus number one total skillpoints. However, they might loose places, maybe even lots of them, in the overall ranking. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
711
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:16:00 -
[240] - Quote
I don't relly care about the global ranking, however I would love to see everyone that ends up in a top 10 spot in any list will have their name shown.
For example highest SP Gallente/Jin-Mei - Anonymous... Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9391
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:19:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:I don't relly care about the global ranking, however I would love to see everyone that ends up in a top 10 spot in any list will have their name shown.
For example highest SP Gallente/Jin-Mei - Anonymous... Right now Top3 should show, that's correct right? Or we just talking an increase to 10?
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Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:48:00 -
[242] - Quote
Chribba, if you would seriously consider to rework Eveboard a bit, then it could be a good idea to create global ranks across professions (we could take the dozen from the Eveonline page, and would only need to identify which skill groups need to be included in which profession), races (what I personally would not find that thrilling, since races don't mean anything anymore in game) or "age groups" (new pilots up to 1 year, 1 to 5 year olds, 6 to 10 year olds, 10 years and above, or something like that). Of course everything with my proposed pilot age relativisation.
There could even still be total global rank, constructed from the average of a pilot across all special ranks where he is listed. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
711
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:00:00 -
[243] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:I don't relly care about the global ranking, however I would love to see everyone that ends up in a top 10 spot in any list will have their name shown.
For example highest SP Gallente/Jin-Mei - Anonymous... Right now Top3 should show, that's correct right? Or we just talking an increase to 10? Not working here:
http://eveboard.com/statistics/bloodline/Jin-Mei
And an increase to 10 would be nice so we don't have to see Anonymous on any summary page like the Board of Fame (http://eveboard.com/ranks).
Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9391
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:19:00 -
[244] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:I don't relly care about the global ranking, however I would love to see everyone that ends up in a top 10 spot in any list will have their name shown.
For example highest SP Gallente/Jin-Mei - Anonymous... Right now Top3 should show, that's correct right? Or we just talking an increase to 10? Not working here: http://eveboard.com/statistics/bloodline/Jin-MeiAnd an increase to 10 would be nice so we don't have to see Anonymous on any summary page like the Board of Fame (http://eveboard.com/ranks). Will look into that and ponder upping it to 10
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:05:00 -
[245] - Quote
I agree with Viggen, Even if Abandon AllHope was ranked #1 in every ranked category the lowest possible score he would get is 35.00 (35 category's in the Global Rank devided by #1 in DOB category)
So he would be pushed down 1,000's of places with no possibility of progression.
So we're back to penalising 1 group in favour of another.
The best solution is to have several Global Ranks (with boards of Fame) that cater to the different groups of players.
You cannot cater to all groups fairly and equally with a single Global Rank. |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:21:00 -
[246] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:So he would be pushed down 1,000's of places with no possibility of progression.. It's the other way around, actually.
Abandon could increase his ranking, when he would decide to work to balanced skill groups. That would probably take some months or even years, but he could. A young pilot never could remedy his young age and has not even a theoretical chance to reach the Top1000 with the present system.
Right now, simply being an old pilot who has not forgotten to switch skills is rewarded. No achievement here. So the ranking at it is right now does not reflect achievements, but simply the fact that one has been around. We are talking pilots which work for a balanced skill set here, specialised pilots are at a disadvantage, since they have bad standings in neglected skill groups which effect the global ranking much more then excellent standings in some other skill groups. Eveboard is and will probably always be a ranking platform which rewards balanced pilots and disadvantages specialized pilots - what would justify the introduction of rankings for specialized pilots. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:44:00 -
[247] - Quote
The example above is #1 in all ranked category's which would require every skill in game trained to Lv5, so that is as balanced as it gets, so no he cannot progress any farther.
he will always be beaten by younger players like the 1 in Viggens example with a score of 1.52, where Abandon AllHope cannot get a score lower than 35.00.
So he and 1,000's of other players like him will be penalised and locked out of the running, just for being an old player. |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:59:00 -
[248] - Quote
You are right, Amateratsu, But that would only put like 100 pilots into disadvantage. A pilot just 2 days younger then Abandon would already rank at a place of 100 or so in that ranking group "Date of Birth" and with the theoretical 35 score for place 1 everywhere achieve a new score of 0.35 or so, what would put him probably at the top of the list.
There is probably no perfect solution for this, but I rather put a hundred pilots into disadvantage (which won't care that much about things like this, being old and grizzled and such...) then tens of thousands of young and eager people who are on disadvantage right now. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:00:00 -
[249] - Quote
doublepost ... "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
711
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:58:00 -
[250] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:The best solution is to have several Global Ranks (with boards of Fame) that cater to the different groups of players.
You cannot cater to all groups fairly and equally with a single Global Rank. Class of YC110 and so on would be nice.
May as well bring back my old suggestion for a hall of fame for each bloodline while we are at it. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.09.21 10:32:00 -
[251] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:You are right, Amateratsu, But that would only put like 100 pilots into disadvantage. A pilot just 2 days younger then Abandon would already rank at a place of 100 or so in that ranking group "Date of Birth" and with the theoretical 35 score for place 1 everywhere achieve a new score of 0.35 or so, what would put him probably at the top of the list.
There is probably no perfect solution for this, but I rather put a hundred pilots into disadvantage (which won't care that much about things like this, being old and grizzled and such...) then tens of thousands of young and eager people who are on disadvantage right now.
It won't be just a 100 pilots who are disadvantaged.
Every older pilot will be disadvantaged by every other pilot younger than himself.
At the moment the veteran pilot with his 100+ million SP has the advantage, With your proposal it will be a complete reversal of roles with the newer players moving to the top of the ranks and the older players being pushed down to the bottom of the ranks no matter how many or what skills they train.
and the newer players will only hold the top ranks until they are overtaken by new players younger than themselves.
Eventually as players complete training of all skills in game the Global Ranks will be sorted by DOB and there will be Zero movement in the top 100, top 1000, top 10,000 and so on.
In the end it won't be skills or SP that determins your rank, it will be your DOB |
Juwi Kotch
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:22:00 -
[252] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:In the end it won't be skills or SP that determins your rank, it will be your DOB As it is now, only right now its always the old pilots which will be on top.
Maybe we could just add a second global ranking according to my proposal? Keep the existing one for the old pilots, and offer the new one for the younger pilots. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451 |
Claire Voyant
140
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:33:00 -
[253] - Quote
Chribba, The last update of the global ranking appeared to use data that was about 24 hours old. For example my targeting rank was based on 1,452,990 skill points but the data in pilot information was showing about 1,500,000 at the time of the update. I am aware that I need to switch skills in order for the API to show the new skill level, but trust me when I say I know my API was up-do-date and had shown much more than 1,452,990 for many hours before the global rank was updated. As far as I could tell, the previous update worked fine. Otherwise, I like the once a day updates. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9411
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:36:00 -
[254] - Quote
The global ranks atm update once per day, during the night (around 01:30 GMT)
/c
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Claire Voyant
140
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Posted - 2013.09.23 10:25:00 -
[255] - Quote
It seemed to work fine last night, so probably a false alarm. There is obviously some lag between when all the data is collected and when the final ranks are posted and I guess that could explain what I saw. I will keep an eye on it. I've been playing around with scraping data off of Eve Board so I am probably more aware than the typical user. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9447
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Posted - 2013.09.25 07:21:00 -
[256] - Quote
If a character is left untouched, it's only updated on average every other day... so yeah if a character is updated just after a rank change it would take 24 hours until next generation, and if not touched it could take some days before a change occurs.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.10.13 09:34:00 -
[257] - Quote
Chribba Any thoughts on how the Certificate category's might be reworked for Rubicon?
On Sisi The old system of Basic, Standard, Improved and Elite Certificates is Out.
There are now a total of 60 Certificates each with 5 levels.
So you could change the category's to
Total Certs - Certs at Lv5 - Certs At Lv4 and so on...
Do we count each Certificate level as a separate Certificate for a total of 300 (60x5) or like we do with skills where once you have no Certs at a given level you get penalised with a no data penalty?
Wound be interested in what you and other think.
Thanks
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9830
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:41:00 -
[258] - Quote
Good question really. Problem (I think) with certs is that you can also chose to not claim some so one could "play" the certs there - unless sisi also includes that you auto-get them if met the reqs?
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:45:00 -
[259] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Good question really. Problem (I think) with certs is that you can also chose to not claim some so one could "play" the certs there - unless sisi also includes that you auto-get them if met the reqs?
If I read the dev blog correctly you will automaticly be issued the certs on qualification, no more having to manually claim them.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
759
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Posted - 2013.10.14 08:22:00 -
[260] - Quote
I wonder if Mastery levels will be accessible through the API, if so then you could have a rank based on Masteries as well. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
14
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:51:00 -
[261] - Quote
Greetings fellow eveboarders, and thanks as always to Chribba for providing this outstanding service to the community!!
Chribba, my page seems to be in order, but for some reason my ranks have not been calculating for the last several days. Please have a look when you get a chance, let me know if I need to give my API a kick in the pants or anything...
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
770
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:18:00 -
[262] - Quote
Towaoc wrote:Greetings fellow eveboarders, and thanks as always to Chribba for providing this outstanding service to the community!! Chribba, my page seems to be in order, but for some reason my ranks have not been calculating for the last several days. Please have a look when you get a chance, let me know if I need to give my API a kick in the pants or anything... Maybe your new rank is -
Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9937
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Posted - 2013.11.04 22:38:00 -
[263] - Quote
Sorry for the delay, this seems like a general error, I'm going to try look into this as soon as I am home (in a few days) and hopefully get it restored to it's original ways.
/c |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9945
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:48:00 -
[264] - Quote
Ranks should now be back - however I had to reset everyone so you might be moving around a bit. Not sure what happened but seems about 8,000 pilots lost their ranks, my guess is that this was due to a locked table at the time of a rank generation.
/c |
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
14
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:58:00 -
[265] - Quote
Thanks, C.
It currently looks like ties are sorting out differently. (If I remember correctly, the 2ndary sort was on overall rank.) I don't know if the data exists, but it'd be cool if ties were ranked by chronological order of achievement... i.e. the first guy to max out Navigation would be ranked number 1 in Navigation, etc.
-T- |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:35:00 -
[266] - Quote
Towaoc wrote:Thanks, C.
It currently looks like ties are sorting out differently. (If I remember correctly, the 2ndary sort was on overall rank.) I don't know if the data exists, but it'd be cool if ties were ranked by chronological order of achievement... i.e. the first guy to max out Navigation would be ranked number 1 in Navigation, etc.
-T-
Currently ties are sorted by global rank, If you sort them by order of achievement, you will limit how far players can climb the ranks.
Take Subsystems for example where there are currently 923 players who have completed that category, which means anyone completing the category now will get a rank of 924 which will add 26.4 points to their global score limiting how high they can climb the global ranks.
the result will be 1000,s of veteran players sitting stagnant at the top of the ranks and unable to progress any further.
at that point EB will be nothing more than a list of members with 0 movement or progression. |
Kalstir
Mercs of Vengeance
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:54:00 -
[267] - Quote
Chribba is the man! |
Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
14
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:06:00 -
[268] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote: Currently ties are sorted by global rank, If you sort them by order of achievement, you will limit how far players can climb the ranks.
Take Subsystems for example where there are currently 923 players who have completed that category, which means anyone completing the category now will get a rank of 924 which will add 26.4 points to their global score limiting how high they can climb the global ranks.
Point well taken, but I think the difference in rank between methodologies would be minimal. Subsystem player #923, for example, with an overall rank of 32,000 is four-plus years and 100 million skillpoints away from cutting his rank in that skill category in half to #461, a position currently held by a 150 mm skillpoint player with a rank of 3,200.
Amateratsu wrote: The result will be 1000's of veteran players sitting stagnant at the top of the ranks and unable to progress any further.
At that point EB will be nothing more than a list of members with 0 movement or progression.
We kinda have this already, which is probably the bigger problem. Most skill categories are heavily populated with characters that have maxed out the category. Perhaps we need more, advanced skills with heavier prerequisites and longer training times and/or a sixth level to spread out the pack and give people room to grow.
I'm all for as much competition as possible, but unfortunately the skill system inherently favors older characters and there's no easy way around that. Some good discussion on that recently. I like the idea of having separate boards for several age classes: 0 to 1 year, 1 to 3 year, 3 to 6 year, 6 or more year, or something to that effect. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
3899
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:14:00 -
[269] - Quote
o/ Chribba
I'm trying to get a skill sheet to show 'currently training'
what's odd is I have two characters with identical masks + settings, but only one of them displays 'currently training' properly. the other one won't show it and doesn't seem to update total SP. (separate accounts)
any tips? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9960
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:37:00 -
[270] - Quote
@rank discussion it's tricky to find a good way of sorting indeed when ppl are maxed out so we might need to try and find another type of sorting. also I do not keep track of "who reached something first" as that one is a bit hard to keep track of exactly when people could get there before someone else but the 2nd person happen to get updated before the first.
Rain6637 wrote:o/ Chribba
I'm trying to get a skill sheet to show 'currently training'
what's odd is I have two characters with identical masks + settings, but only one of them displays 'currently training' properly. the other one won't show it and doesn't seem to update total SP. (separate accounts)
any tips? Should be sorted now, if it is not get back to me with the character name.
/c |
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Rain6637
Team Evil
3912
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:35:00 -
[271] - Quote
Thank you very much, Chribba. Eveboard is my EVEMon-away-from-home. o7 o7 |
Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
11
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:35:00 -
[272] - Quote
Hello,
about having a different sorting, what about having the possibility to see our ranking compared with players of +/- 1 year of creation? It is interesting to see how we are compared to all the other players, but it would be more meaningful if we could compare ourselves with players of the same time period. So, I propose to put another tab that aside of ranks you could have ranks of similar players in this new screen. This would be interesting to old players and new players alike. |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
52
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:36:00 -
[273] - Quote
Certificate catagory's are now All showing no data, any thoughts / plans on an update? |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
853
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Posted - 2013.11.21 12:25:00 -
[274] - Quote
Integra Arkanheld wrote:Hello,
about having a different sorting, what about having the possibility to see our ranking compared with players of +/- 1 year of creation? It is interesting to see how we are compared to all the other players, but it would be more meaningful if we could compare ourselves with players of the same time period. So, I propose to put another tab that aside of ranks you could have ranks of similar players in this new screen. This would be interesting to old players and new players alike. Yes doing a rank for each year has been suggested quite a few times. I hope it will happen, I wonder how I will do in class of 2006? Probably ranked at the bottom behind all the Achuras. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Claire Voyant
142
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:03:00 -
[275] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote: Certificate catagory's are now All showing no data, any thoughts / plans on an update?
I think CCP said they were taking down the old certificate API and did not have a new one to replace it yet.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10102
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Posted - 2013.11.23 11:29:00 -
[276] - Quote
Claire Voyant wrote:Amateratsu wrote: Certificate catagory's are now All showing no data, any thoughts / plans on an update?
I think CCP said they were taking down the old certificate API and did not have a new one to replace it yet. Yeah CCP has removed it, and as far as I've seen there's no Mastery thing displayed in the API yet (I haven't gotten around to remove the empty categories yet).
/c
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Rain6637
Team Evil
6755
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:02:00 -
[277] - Quote
Chribba, any chance the racial battlecruiser and destroyer skills will be added to the filters for searching characters for sale? Rainfleet on Twitch |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10266
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:30:00 -
[278] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:Chribba, any chance the racial battlecruiser and destroyer skills will be added to the filters for searching characters for sale? Totally forgot about them, adding to the todo, thank you!
/c
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Rain6637
Team Evil
6757
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:18:00 -
[279] - Quote
the characters for sale feature is a time saver and life saver, btw. and the alternative of searching character bazaar page-by-page is just... Rainfleet on Twitch |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
966
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:25:00 -
[280] - Quote
Hey Chribba, did you trip over the server powercord? Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11032
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Posted - 2014.01.18 12:06:00 -
[281] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, did you trip over the server powercord? Thought I replied to this haha, but no, however someone screwed up and wiped my dns root zones when switching registrars so everything went offline due to dns problems.
Perhaps I should look into getting some redundancy on the as well.
/c
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digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
265
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:33:00 -
[282] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, did you trip over the server powercord? Thought I replied to this haha, but no, however someone screwed up and wiped my dns root zones when switching registrars so everything went offline due to dns problems. Perhaps I should look into getting some redundancy on the as well. /c
My char dissapeared altogether....
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11033
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Posted - 2014.02.07 07:36:00 -
[283] - Quote
digitalwanderer wrote:Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, did you trip over the server powercord? Thought I replied to this haha, but no, however someone screwed up and wiped my dns root zones when switching registrars so everything went offline due to dns problems. Perhaps I should look into getting some redundancy on the as well. /c My char dissapeared altogether.... http://eveboard.com/pilot/digitalwanderer looks there?
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Jen Takhesis
The Scope Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.02.15 00:15:00 -
[284] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote: Yes doing a rank for each year has been suggested quite a few times. I hope it will happen, I wonder how I will do in class of 2006? Probably ranked at the bottom behind all the Achuras.
I don't know how the backend works for eb, but could something like be done with a drop down or text box filter, where you could put in the number of months (or years) of age of characters that you want to include, and the list is reordered to filter out any characters older than the filter number? So you could see who was the highest rank of six month old characters and younger, or three year old and younger. If that required a calculation every time, that would be bad, but if you had the calculations done already and this was just removing some of the people, maybe it wouldn't be so resource intensive. Well, I guess you'd have to hold those new sorts in memory somewhere, which could be bad, too. Just an idea. Alternatively, you could just store say ranks for every two months of age up to about 18 months, and then maybe for each year after that, rather than allowing users to specify any amount and having to keep it for each user. |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
220
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Posted - 2014.02.23 22:28:00 -
[285] - Quote
Is the site working? It has been very temperamental lately for me. I love to reload during a battle... There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile, into a well greased chamber... |
Claire Voyant
146
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:59:00 -
[286] - Quote
I just noticed a slight bug in the overall (global) rank calculation. There are 35 categories but the average is calculated by dividing by 30. So either the 5 certificate categories should be eliminated (lowering all averages by 166.67) or the divisor should be changed to 35 (lowering all averages by 14.3%.) Neither change would effect the global ranking, just make it a little less confusing for those trying to figure out how it is calculated.
Also, Viggen is about to go DOWN! Out with the old, in with the (relatively) new. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11195
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:20:00 -
[287] - Quote
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot wrote:Is the site working? It has been very temperamental lately for me. It has been very bumpy lately yes with reoccuring db corruptions which I am not able to pinpoint the cause fully for since it only happens to the main eb database and none of the others. I've tried various fixes and always hope it survives the night, lately it hasn't. Soon running out of options and only leaving the option to get a brand new server - so it is yet to see how it pans out (and oh yeah Sunday night/Monday's outage was due to the server not restarting properly and I had no way of physically get it back online until the morning).
Claire Voyant wrote:I just noticed a slight bug in the overall (global) rank calculation. There are 35 categories but the average is calculated by dividing by 30. So either the 5 certificate categories should be eliminated (lowering all averages by 166.67) or the divisor should be changed to 35 (lowering all averages by 14.3%.) Neither change would effect the global ranking, just make it a little less confusing for those trying to figure out how it is calculated.
Also, Viggen is about to go DOWN! Out with the old, in with the (relatively) new. Since certificates are not around any more they will get removed.
/c
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3445
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:03:00 -
[288] - Quote
I find it odd that my standings show Spacelane Patrol 3 times with different values:
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Tau_Cabalander/standings?type=npc |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11733
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Posted - 2014.04.20 06:45:00 -
[289] - Quote
Looks like there's been a small bug introduced in the latest code change. I will look into it and adjust things.
Good catch, thanks!
/c
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Kithran
95
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Posted - 2014.04.21 08:09:00 -
[290] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Looks like there's been a small bug introduced in the latest code change. I will look into it and adjust things. Good catch, thanks! /c
I think its something that shows when you are missioning for a corp and thus your standings are changing rapidly (relatively speaking). |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11735
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Posted - 2014.04.21 08:35:00 -
[291] - Quote
Kithran wrote:Chribba wrote:Looks like there's been a small bug introduced in the latest code change. I will look into it and adjust things. Good catch, thanks! /c I think its something that shows when you are missioning for a corp and thus your standings are changing rapidly (relatively speaking). Actually it was for some reason not updating a row rather than adding a new row for said corp. It's global and aprox 1/3 of the table is duplicate entries. So there's been some cleaning done and more to come as well as need to review the code so it doesn't happen any more.
/c
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3499
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Posted - 2014.04.22 04:06:00 -
[292] - Quote
Sort of off topic but...
How does one upload a torrent to EVE-Files?
I'm trying to make the client available to some people having download issues.
I followed http://eve-files.com/torrent.dxd and uploaded a .torrent to my EVE-File account, and my seedbox is showing tracker.eve-files.com rejecting: Tracker: [Failure reason \"requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker\"]
Thanks.
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Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
53
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:39:00 -
[293] - Quote
Wondering if there is ever going to be a rankings system for Faction and NPC corp standings? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11822
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Posted - 2014.05.01 09:47:00 -
[294] - Quote
Kaidu Kahn wrote:Wondering if there is ever going to be a rankings system for Faction and NPC corp standings? Probably not, depending on what exactly you're looking for, per corp or sorta more global. The average faction thing is there, but going down on ranking per NPC corp kinda may at the moment bit a bit over the top without bigger changes in the code and database.
But I can put it on the list and try look into things and see what may be possible.
/c
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Kithran
98
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:30:00 -
[295] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Kaidu Kahn wrote:Wondering if there is ever going to be a rankings system for Faction and NPC corp standings? Probably not, depending on what exactly you're looking for, per corp or sorta more global. The average faction thing is there, but going down on ranking per NPC corp kinda may at the moment bit a bit over the top without bigger changes in the code and database. But I can put it on the list and try look into things and see what may be possible. /c
Highest standing with a given corp or faction are going to be pretty meaningless - there will be people at 10.0 who just sit there forever.
There are currently 3 levels of standing that matter:
5.0 faction pre skills (for pos, will become irrelevant come summer) 6.66 corp post skills, around 6.06 at connections V, needed for tax free refining 8.0 corp post skills, between 7.51 and 7.81 at connections V, needed for jump clones
How many corps people have second or third with may be useful to some looking for characters to buy perhaps? |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14386
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Posted - 2014.05.13 06:37:00 -
[296] - Quote
hey c, how's things?
I was about to ask about an update on a couple stagnant skillsheets, but after going back a couple pages I have a question about the ranks categories instead.
Is Amateratsu correct, that characters who have a category maxed are ranked among each other by global rank? (and the order of the top 10 in a category can change in the future if their global rank changes?)
I was surprised to learn that skill date isn't a factor in rank sorting, and if that's the case I'm not so concerned about an update, as it's pure vanity training.
But just in case it's something you'd want to know about, I have a couple characters who haven't updated for 2 million SP +. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11907
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Posted - 2014.05.13 07:34:00 -
[297] - Quote
Since there's no way of tracking skill date (unless I code to actually keep track of such things) I can't use that. And yes, if a pilot has the same as someone else, the global rank would sort them.
/c
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Rain6637
Team Evil
14386
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Posted - 2014.05.13 10:08:00 -
[298] - Quote
Thanks Chribba! o7 o7 President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14429
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:59:00 -
[299] - Quote
took another look--that means as I finish up gunnery: all on two characters, they will take somewhere between 5th and 7th place in the gunnery ranks for quite a while now I stressed about the chronological order President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet mk.III-á| Twitch | Imgur | Content \o/ |
Zachary Taylor
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
2
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:14:00 -
[300] - Quote
Hey Chribba,
Just want to say Eveboard is awesome and thanks for creating it. I am getting an error when I click the alliance button:
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e31' [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Query timeout expired /stats-progress.asp, line 36
Just thought I'd give you a heads up. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11938
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:20:00 -
[301] - Quote
Yeah thanks, I've seen some odd stuff going on with the database lately and I'm trying to pinpoint the cause for the timeouts.
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2014.05.25 21:06:00 -
[302] - Quote
Hey Chribba, it looks like I've lost my ranks again, apparently due to an error during an api update. Please take a look when you get a chance... we wouldn't want Claire to get too comfortable up at the top of the board... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11939
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Posted - 2014.05.26 05:58:00 -
[303] - Quote
Towaoc wrote:Hey Chribba, it looks like I've lost my ranks again, apparently due to an error during an api update. Please take a look when you get a chance... we wouldn't want Claire to get too comfortable up at the top of the board... Fixed.
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2014.05.27 16:32:00 -
[304] - Quote
Thanks, Chribba |
Commissar Kate
Team Evil
62653
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:52:00 -
[305] - Quote
I can't get standings to show on this character http://eveboard.com/pilot/Selena_Aldura
I used your predefined API mask so I dont think thats my problem. People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12029
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Posted - 2014.06.06 19:44:00 -
[306] - Quote
Standings iare at the moment disabled due to a problem with my update scripts.
/c
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Commissar Kate
Team Evil
62703
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:08:00 -
[307] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Standings iare at the moment disabled due to a problem with my update scripts. /c
Oh thanks. Just wanted to make sure I was not doing anything wrong. People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
1093
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Posted - 2014.06.09 10:51:00 -
[308] - Quote
Hey Chribba, any idea when you will update the drone skills to match Kronos? Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12033
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Posted - 2014.06.09 11:01:00 -
[309] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, any idea when you will update the drone skills to match Kronos? Should be up to date now, if I ran the scripts correctly. Sorry for the delay.
/c
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Kelby
50
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Posted - 2014.06.09 11:36:00 -
[310] - Quote
I've just done an update and it seems to still be missing medium drone operation. |
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
236
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Posted - 2014.06.09 12:27:00 -
[311] - Quote
Is there a way to have several accounts in 1 overview? - now I have an overview of all chars per account. Just wondering... |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
1093
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Posted - 2014.06.09 17:03:00 -
[312] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Hey Chribba, any idea when you will update the drone skills to match Kronos? Should be up to date now, if I ran the scripts correctly. Sorry for the delay. /c Medium drones are still missing in my sheet. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12036
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:59:00 -
[313] - Quote
Hmm I'll look into the Medium Drone issue, I applied the new database but seems there may be something missing.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12036
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:59:00 -
[314] - Quote
TheSmokingHertog wrote:Is there a way to have several accounts in 1 overview? - now I have an overview of all chars per account. Just wondering... I'm toying around with ideas like that and the SSO authentication I'm trying out.
/c
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
1093
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:40:00 -
[315] - Quote
Chribba wrote:There we go, usually works better if I verify that all tables where updated properly /c Working now, thanks. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.06.10 08:33:00 -
[316] - Quote
About 3 days ago, started to receive an error message "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!". Ranks are not updated. All entries shows "-".
Link: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless
Note that I did not modified API for at least 1/2y. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12038
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:52:00 -
[317] - Quote
Dr Blindless wrote:About 3 days ago, started to receive an error message "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!". Ranks are not updated. All entries shows "-". Link: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_BlindlessNote that I did not modified API for at least 1/2y. Should be working now. Your character most likely got deactivated when CCP had API troubles and needed to be flagged as active again.
/c
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digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
349
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:23:00 -
[318] - Quote
Same for me...I seem to be MIA. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12041
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Posted - 2014.06.10 18:28:00 -
[319] - Quote
digitalwanderer wrote:Same for me...I seem to be MIA. Updated.
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:03:00 -
[320] - Quote
Hey Chribba,
When you get a chance, may I have another reset? Getting ready for a remap soon and I want to make sure I've topped off all of my I/M categories first.
Sorry for the inconvenience, I seem to get the "Illegal Page Request" error rather frequently...
-T- |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12185
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:12:00 -
[321] - Quote
Towaoc wrote:Hey Chribba,
When you get a chance, may I have another reset? Getting ready for a remap soon and I want to make sure I've topped off all of my I/M categories first.
Sorry for the inconvenience, I seem to get the "Illegal Page Request" error rather frequently...
-T- Done (and I blame CCP's api lol)
/c
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2056
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Posted - 2014.07.09 16:31:00 -
[322] - Quote
a general 'thank you' to chribba. eveboard is equally awesome and affordable, and so are your other services.
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2014.07.10 03:15:00 -
[323] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Done (and I blame CCP's api lol)
/c Thanks Chribba!!
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3872
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:27:00 -
[324] - Quote
I think mine needs a kick:
Time remaining -3d 12h 52m 40s (skill finished) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12252
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:14:00 -
[325] - Quote
Tau Cabalander wrote:I think mine needs a kick:
Time remaining -3d 12h 52m 40s (skill finished) Fixed
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
70
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Posted - 2014.07.20 07:56:00 -
[326] - Quote
Hi Chribba
Any eta on when the Certificate category's will be removed from EB? Are they still part of the global rank calculation? or has that been updated now?
Currently we have 30? (35 with certs) category's included in the global rank...
Most SP Number of Skills Skills @ Lvl's 3, 4, and 5 Average Sp per skill 22 Skill group Catagory's Most ISK Highest Skill Value
Is this still correct?
Many Thanks
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12365
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:51:00 -
[327] - Quote
I will try get around to do that. I believe they are a part in the formula right now, however everyone should be treated the same there with empty values, so it should not affect ranks in any way.
Beyond that the listed categories should be correct without having double-checked the code.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
70
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Posted - 2014.07.20 17:37:00 -
[328] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I will try get around to do that. I believe they are a part in the formula right now, however everyone should be treated the same there with empty values, so it should not affect ranks in any way.
Beyond that the listed categories should be correct without having double-checked the code.
/c
Is the penalty for a no data category a fixed value or is it variable depending on other factors.
I recall reading that the penalty was multiplied by the # of no data ranks and the # of players ranked in the category for which you have no data.
I ask because I'm keeping a spread sheet of my progress in the ranks and some of the math does not add up.
for example if I add up my total score and then divide it by the 35 category's there is a difference of approx. 11,000 points compared to taking my global score (as displayed by EB) and * it by 35.
Whereas for Towaoc the difference is only around 4,000 pts.
As you say, we both have the same 5 no data category's, so I'm curious where the difference in penalty is coming from.
Not looking to get anything changed on EB, just trying to figure out where my math may be going wrong.
Atm I think I enjoy playing EB online more than EVE Online
Anyways many thanks |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12371
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:40:00 -
[329] - Quote
I'm sure it's my math that is ****** up haha.
Here's the formula for the Global Rank (and simply by posting it, I see I've made a mistake in it, it's more to it than the posted below since it's math in a db query)
(sum(ranked)+((5-count)*1000))/count = points
I feel EB really needs to get a better definition of how to calculate ranks, and one that is more dynamic right now bc it's a mess codewise.
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Cord Binchiette
Laughing Devils
55
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:58:00 -
[330] - Quote
The people who re-roll still have daily online averages over 24 hours.
1. Gaming God (DoB 2012-08-25 16:49:14) 1d 8h 32m 00s 2. Jonkai (DoB 2013-11-27 07:52:41) 1d 4h 57m 48s 3. PEDRO LOBO (DoB 2013-11-27 07:52:41) 1d 4h 57m 48s 4. Donate MySupers (DoB 2013-02-18 17:29:48) 1d 2h 52m 37s 5. Anonymous 1d 2h 03m 08s
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12398
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:00:00 -
[331] - Quote
Cord Binchiette wrote:The people who re-roll still have daily online averages over 24 hours.
1. Gaming God (DoB 2012-08-25 16:49:14) 1d 8h 32m 00s 2. Jonkai (DoB 2013-11-27 07:52:41) 1d 4h 57m 48s 3. PEDRO LOBO (DoB 2013-11-27 07:52:41) 1d 4h 57m 48s 4. Donate MySupers (DoB 2013-02-18 17:29:48) 1d 2h 52m 37s 5. Anonymous 1d 2h 03m 08s
Yeah it's a problem since the account counts one single online-time, rather than per character. I tried to adjust that with adding restrictions to age but as you can see it doesn't work all the time and sorta never will as the online time goes up constantly, so I'd have to keep limiting the age of the character more and more to keep it under 1 day.
/c
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.08.11 10:31:00 -
[332] - Quote
eveboard is not updating my info. Error message - "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!"
Page: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12550
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:37:00 -
[333] - Quote
Should be updating now Blindless.
/c
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Viggen
17
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:24:00 -
[334] - Quote
Workaround....
If when trying to view your character on Eveboard you get the message "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!" you can simply create a new API key to use instead. Just copy/paste in the new key with the same settings etc, and save, job done.
This has happened to me a couple of times in the past few months, and doing this resolved the issue right away |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12556
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Posted - 2014.08.14 07:22:00 -
[335] - Quote
Viggen's will work, the message indicates that the pilot got disabled when encountering the api error (something that can also happen when CCP's servers screw up). So a new key would auto enable it - I'll also add a feature in the login ui to activate your character again with the current key.
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:39:00 -
[336] - Quote
Remap : P/W !
(stated with emphasis, as might be done for a thrilling move in a world-class chess match)
I'm long overdue to give some attention to Gunnery and Missile skills.
On a somewhat more interesting note, to follow some discussion above, I did a little reverse engineering of the null category penalty points for the top four characters in global ranking. There are minor differences:
Batack:
Null categories: 6 (certs plus level 3 skills) Rank points per null category: 2284.60
Claire:
Null categories: 5 (certificates) Rank points per null category: 2358.71
Viggen:
Null categories: 6 (certs plus level 3 skills) Rank points per null category: 2129.95
Myself:
Null categories: 5 (certificates) Rank points per null category: 2041.40
So, some variability from character to character, and also as the database grows. For comparison, the rank points per null category fell into a 1700 to 1800 point range about a year ago when I last looked.
Just a bit of data, no real conclusions other than that it's a pretty big penalty, one that I'm weighing carefully as I consider taking my remaining level 3 skills to level 4.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
857
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:23:00 -
[337] - Quote
Towaoc wrote:Remap : P/W !
Just a bit of data, no real conclusions other than that it's a pretty big penalty, one that I'm weighing carefully as I consider taking my remaining level 3 skills to level 4.
I've started on my 3's, and my ranking started moving backwards as I completed them. (Was up at rank 388 at my pinnacle) The less 3's you have, the more it changes your average. Not sure if it will affect the older players as much, but be prepared.
Yes, I am currently playing EB Online. |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
71
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Posted - 2014.08.17 13:35:00 -
[338] - Quote
It would seem that the lower you are in the ranking, the greater the penalty levied on you for null category's.
I'm currently ranked #48th with a penalty of approx. 4,250 per null category.
Amateratsu:
Null categories: 5 (certificates) Rank points per null category: 4,250
This will only get worse as I continue to raise all my level 3 and below skills.
Unfortunately the penalty is a nessasary evil to keep younger players with dozens of null data category's from jumping to the top of the ranks due to low skillpoints.
Tho when Chribba does get round to removing the certificate category's the bulk of the penalty should be eliminated. |
voetius
BITB Support Services
255
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:34:00 -
[339] - Quote
Chribba, when you get a minute could you have a look at my eveboard please. The API seems to have gone AWOL again.
Is it worth me petitioning this to CCP? The problem seems to be on their end from what I've gathered reading the posts above from people with the same issue. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12708
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Posted - 2014.08.21 09:10:00 -
[340] - Quote
Activated, and no think this is when CCP switches off their database or something then I rather be safe than sorry and disabled invalid keys directly. You can activate it manually by logging on with your api details and press save though.
Maybe I'll see if I should implement a retry state before disable the key though.
/c
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.09.22 02:06:16 -
[341] - Quote
30 day bump for EB. |
digitalwanderer
DW inc
390
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:24:19 -
[342] - Quote
Seems I've gone MIA again.....:p |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13056
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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:23:27 -
[343] - Quote
digitalwanderer wrote:Seems I've gone MIA again.....:p Seems you activated yourself again (I think). So looks good.
And yeah faster activation is logging on with the api details and press save settings on your characters.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13056
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:29:14 -
[344] - Quote
So with that unlimited skillqueue. Do we need to make any changes to the things there beyond perhaps make sure no ranking is calculated by it, or is it still a feat to manage to make a 10 year skill queue?
/c
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
24
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:30:11 -
[345] - Quote
I don't see a point to rank based on the unlimited skill queue.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:25:56 -
[346] - Quote
If the skill queue affects the overall ranking, I'd get rid of it with the incoming endless queue.
I think a ranking there would/could diminish the integrity of eveboard somehow. |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
71
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:26:09 -
[347] - Quote
Chribba wrote:So with that unlimited skillqueue. Do we need to make any changes to the things there beyond perhaps make sure no ranking is calculated by it, or is it still a feat to manage to make a 10 year skill queue?
/c
The 2 skillqueue ranks are not part of the global ranking, so theres really no changes needed.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13108
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:28:03 -
[348] - Quote
The new API info should now be implemented (but not everything shown just yet). Also some minor hiccups from when CCP changed things that should be showing next time your pilot gets updated.
Hope to show top list of SP pools and such soon as well as jump clones and their implants.
/c
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
38
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:15:35 -
[349] - Quote
Chribba wrote:The new API info should now be implemented (but not everything shown just yet). Also some minor hiccups from when CCP changed things that should be showing next time your pilot gets updated.
Hope to show top list of SP pools and such soon as well as jump clones and their implants.
/c Are you planning removing the blank certificates level section in the ranks pages?
I guess the system is just slow but according to the ranking I have 1 skill in queue and not the 46 that show up in my skill sheet.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13108
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:21:09 -
[350] - Quote
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:Chribba wrote:The new API info should now be implemented (but not everything shown just yet). Also some minor hiccups from when CCP changed things that should be showing next time your pilot gets updated.
Hope to show top list of SP pools and such soon as well as jump clones and their implants.
/c Are you planning removing the blank certificates level section in the ranks pages? I guess the system is just slow but according to the ranking I have 1 skill in queue and not the 46 that show up in my skill sheet. They are to be removed yep. Also the queue should show properly now, it was probably just a delay due to the earlier errors.
/c
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
38
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:25:22 -
[351] - Quote
Ah ok, also maybe change the "Longest skill in training" rank to longest skill queue? As in one rank for number of skills and one ranked for lenght of the skills.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13137
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Posted - 2014.11.05 22:01:36 -
[352] - Quote
I plan to add queue time as well, just that that one is a bit harder to calculate straight off but I'm looking into the best method of getting the values. Will actually need to redo the whole ranking completely due to the big changes in the API now kinda screwing up things so might end up with having to do a proper reset... we shall see.
Maybe even removing some categories that are pretty useless, for example the attribute ones are imo a bit pointless, queue number is a bit like that as well since it's easy to max out the full queue.
/c
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Thynar
Melita Foundation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.08 10:11:52 -
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My Eveboard sheet shows an extra 7 untrained skills which I do not have in game.
Is this a bug or are they skills in my hanger which I never actually plugged in?
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
71
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:27:32 -
[354] - Quote
Hey Chribba
There appears to be a fault with the "mumber of skills" category with the top 6 players reportedly having more than the total number of skills available ingame.
Just a heads up. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13274
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:06:41 -
[355] - Quote
It should sort itself but will keep an eye on it.
/c
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Orion Pax
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
33
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Posted - 2014.11.21 09:13:47 -
[356] - Quote
Hey Chribba, in the skill categories page, it'd be nice if the category for Average SP/hour would not show people with less than 5 million skill points. The top people in that category are always new toons that just started the game a few minutes ago and display over 8000 SP/hour. By not displaying toons with less than 5 million SP, we would be able to see a clearer picture of which toons are actually keeping closest to max SP per hour. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13274
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Posted - 2014.11.21 09:45:00 -
[357] - Quote
Yes I agree, and the formula there needs to be checked as so it rewards older people with higher SP.
/c
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4354
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Posted - 2014.11.21 11:42:23 -
[358] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Yes I agree, and the formula there needs to be checked as so it rewards older people with higher SP.
/c ... and only those with a skill currently in training. |
Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2014.11.25 09:50:01 -
[359] - Quote
Hi Chribba,
I noticed since last update that there are some mistakes on my ranking page: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Grey_Stone/ranks
Number of skills: it states 411 but I have 394 skills
Number of untrained skills: 17 but I have none
This is obviously connected so I think you should check what is going on with the untrained skills field.
Thx for great work on eveboard.
best, GS |
Dosperado
Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition
41
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:06:44 -
[360] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Yes I agree, and the formula there needs to be checked as so it rewards older people with higher SP.
/c
You also have to take into account (for the long time players <=2004) the Exodus expansion on 17th Nov 2004. On that day the advanced learnings were introduced. Before Nov 04 it was only possible to skill with basic learning skills and with max. +3 implants (+5 were also introduced with Exodus I guess) And you also need to take the time into account that was neccessary to get all advanced learnings up to lvl5. In 2010 all learning skills were removed and everybody got a free +10 modifier....
With the actual formula on Average SP/hour only the younger pilots are rewarded (DoB >=2005 and especially DoB >2010). So this category is complete useless right now.
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:23:21 -
[361] - Quote
EB is not updating my profile correctly :( http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless/ranks
Namely, "Number of Level 2 skills" shows that I have 1 skill. That was correct about week ago. Now I have 0.
Fix? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13837
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Posted - 2015.01.08 13:16:50 -
[362] - Quote
Seems the update may have hung. Looks ok now?
/c
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:07:56 -
[363] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Seems the update may have hung. Looks ok now? Thanks. However... still 1 skill. Will see tomorrow. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13839
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:21:45 -
[364] - Quote
To rephrase, your skills looks ok now?
The ranks updates less often so by tomorrow the ranks should have been updated to reflect the skills currently showing.
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:19:28 -
[365] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Looks ok now?
No... still problem! I found this... actually, I have 65 level1 skills, and 0 level2 skills.
However, EB thinks that I have 64+1? Strange. Need fix!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13855
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Posted - 2015.01.10 08:03:18 -
[366] - Quote
Not sure what was going on there beyond it looked like the rankings for some reason went weird. The rank now says 65 lv1 and zero lv2.
So if I understood your concerns right it should be displaying properly now.
/c
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.01.10 09:24:41 -
[367] - Quote
Chribba wrote:So if I understood your concerns right it should be displaying properly now. Yes, it works now. Thanks! |
Nomnomnom1
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:50:08 -
[368] - Quote
Eveboard seems to be down? Just wondering if it is, and if so eta on its return?
Kind regards
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13858
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Posted - 2015.01.11 07:39:41 -
[369] - Quote
I'm having some trouble with one of my database servers, eta back tomorrow
Sorry for the inconvenience.
/c
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Nomnomnom1
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:33:10 -
[370] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I'm having some trouble with one of my database servers, eta back tomorrow
Sorry for the inconvenience.
/c
No apologies necessary, thankyou for the service! |
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29562
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Posted - 2015.01.21 17:31:30 -
[371] - Quote
Chribba, I just want to thank you after recently setting all of my skillqueues to public. It allows me to check them from any internet connection.
Thank you
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13914
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:21:37 -
[372] - Quote
Thank you for finding use for it. Glad to be of help
/c
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Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:39:31 -
[373] - Quote
Hi Chribba,
Would you be so kind to check why some of my stats are not correctly shown on my eve-board ranks page. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Grey_Stone/ranks
Number of untrained and total skills is wrong.
Number of untrained skills: 17 but I have none
Number of skills: it states 413 but I have 396 total skills
This is obviously connected (413-17=396) so I think you should check what is going on with the untrained skills field.
Thx for great work on eveboard.
best, GS |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
284
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:52:09 -
[374] - Quote
@ grey, realize that CCP removed some skillbooks in game, that are still trained up by some people. Seems there are 17. - One of the relics you can find in trade skills, cant remember name atm, but check top skill people in Trade, a few people are on top because of it. |
Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:11:08 -
[375] - Quote
TheSmokingHertog wrote:@ grey, realize that CCP removed some skillbooks in game, that are still trained up by some people. Seems there are 17. - One of the relics you can find in trade skills, cant remember name atm, but check top skill people in Trade, a few people are on top because of it.
Hi m8, thx for a post.
Yes I know about some skills that are still present in games but that do not have any meaning like Astronautic Engineering and Black Market Trading, but those skills are ok as they are still in game. They are collector's items.
But not all characters have problem that skills that are removed from game still shows at the ranking page. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13914
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:55:08 -
[376] - Quote
I may have found and removed the error that caused it. For some reason it seems that CCP's API has at some point inserted implants under skills, many pilots listed implants under skills. So that is cleaned. The ranks will not reflect this until the next update though (scheduled during the night).
/c
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Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:26:32 -
[377] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I may have found and removed the error that caused it. For some reason it seems that CCP's API has at some point inserted implants under skills, many pilots listed implants under skills. So that is cleaned. The ranks will not reflect this until the next update though (scheduled during the night).
/c
Thx very much for your support Chribba! |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29593
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Posted - 2015.01.23 07:42:16 -
[378] - Quote
About the away-from-home skillqueue checking thing... I created a tinyurl to help me land at a comparison table of my characters, to navigate to each of them from there... example: tinyurl.com/rainfleet1
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
72
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Posted - 2015.01.25 13:27:57 -
[379] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I may have found and removed the error that caused it. For some reason it seems that CCP's API has at some point inserted implants under skills, many pilots listed implants under skills. So that is cleaned. The ranks will not reflect this until the next update though (scheduled during the night).
/c
It appears this has only partially fixed the issue, however there are still a number of pilots showing a total skill count in excess of the maximum available.
This excess count only appears to be occurring in the "Total Skills" Category
If you view a pilots skill list page it shows the correct total skill count at the bottom. |
Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2015.01.26 08:31:00 -
[380] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:Chribba wrote:I may have found and removed the error that caused it. For some reason it seems that CCP's API has at some point inserted implants under skills, many pilots listed implants under skills. So that is cleaned. The ranks will not reflect this until the next update though (scheduled during the night).
/c It appears this has only partially fixed the issue, however there are still a number of pilots showing a total skill count in excess of the maximum available. This excess count only appears to be occurring in the "Total Skills" Category If you view a pilots skill list page it shows the correct total skill count at the bottom.
Yes it seems that the problem is still present. My untrained skills went from 17 to 15 after Chribba made changes. I hope it can be changed |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13944
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Posted - 2015.01.26 09:03:08 -
[381] - Quote
Round two. I've now cleaned up even more weird things... Plenty of implants in the skill category. Also I'm unsure about these.
Bureaucratic ConnectionsObsolete Books Financial ConnectionsObsolete Books High Tech ConnectionsObsolete Books Labor ConnectionsObsolete Books Military ConnectionsObsolete Books Political ConnectionsObsolete Books Trade ConnectionsObsolete Books
They are listed on some characters, old books perhaps. So I may need to clean out those as well.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
72
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:01:52 -
[382] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Round two. I've now cleaned up even more weird things... Plenty of implants in the skill category. Also I'm unsure about these.
Bureaucratic ConnectionsObsolete Books Financial ConnectionsObsolete Books High Tech ConnectionsObsolete Books Labor ConnectionsObsolete Books Military ConnectionsObsolete Books Political ConnectionsObsolete Books Trade ConnectionsObsolete Books
They are listed on some characters, old books perhaps. So I may need to clean out those as well.
/c
Those are the old Social Skill Books that were removed from the game and replaced with 3 new ones. See Tau's Thread for details.
So they should be deleted from EB. |
Grey Stone
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
31
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:28:22 -
[383] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Round two. I've now cleaned up even more weird things... Plenty of implants in the skill category. Also I'm unsure about these.
Bureaucratic ConnectionsObsolete Books Financial ConnectionsObsolete Books High Tech ConnectionsObsolete Books Labor ConnectionsObsolete Books Military ConnectionsObsolete Books Political ConnectionsObsolete Books Trade ConnectionsObsolete Books
They are listed on some characters, old books perhaps. So I may need to clean out those as well.
/c
I do not have any more untrained skills. Everything seems to work fine now. Chribba thx for your work and service of EB :) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13954
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Posted - 2015.01.27 19:33:59 -
[384] - Quote
Did a complete cleanup, except one oddity that I just have to keep. At some point Veldspar snook its way in as a skill lmao. That is kept! :P
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
157
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Posted - 2015.01.28 13:15:03 -
[385] - Quote
Any further plans on removing the Anonymous tag from people ranked at top 10 in any categories?
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13964
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Posted - 2015.01.29 08:19:59 -
[386] - Quote
No such plans right now. Do we need/want/wish that the full top 10 does, it's some level of privacy still
/c
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
159
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Posted - 2015.01.29 09:56:20 -
[387] - Quote
You still won't see their full skill sheets and if they are in the top 10 in every category I think they deserve the fame.
Another option ofcourse is to remove all the anonymous ones from all rankings.
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Once known as:
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
97
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Posted - 2015.02.03 16:04:16 -
[388] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Did a complete cleanup, except one oddity that I just have to keep. At some point Veldspar snook its way in as a skill lmao. That is kept! :P Thanks, Chribba, the site has looked nicely sorted out the last few days!
And I've gone at least a full week without getting booted due to an API error...
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
73
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:28:12 -
[389] - Quote
Any eta on when you might get round to updating / removing the Certificate ranks?
Also bump to keep Thread Alive. |
digitalwanderer
DW inc
393
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Posted - 2015.03.21 05:36:25 -
[390] - Quote
Weee.....250 million mark about 3 weeks away give or take a couple of days...Should be close to having the fifth large gun specialisation maxed to lvl 5 by then too....These take a while at 26 days a pop..... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14294
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:47:48 -
[391] - Quote
Slow on updates here, certs are now finally gone.
The yearly summary of pilot data will soon be available for you to include/view/show-off as well. The code is there to pull it, however displaying all categories is what takes time to put together.
But it will be exciting to see who have flown the longest, made the most jumps or simply mined the most ore on a yearly basis.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
77
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:25:03 -
[392] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Slow on updates here, certs are now finally gone.
The yearly summary of pilot data will soon be available for you to include/view/show-off as well. The code is there to pull it, however displaying all categories is what takes time to put together.
But it will be exciting to see who have flown the longest, made the most jumps or simply mined the most ore on a yearly basis.
/c
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Kithran
117
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:15:14 -
[393] - Quote
Is there an issue since the latest release either with people who have injected caldari technical destroyer or have it in their queue?
Eveboard correctly says I have 407 skills but now has an API error for me.
In a possibly unrelated matter Evedroid also seems to be crashing since I put the new t3d into my skillqueue.
Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx. |
Khanid Voltar
Third Way Retirement Corp
41
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:09:57 -
[394] - Quote
Kithran wrote: Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx.
It's not the API that needs to be updated but the website/app.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14483
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:16:29 -
[395] - Quote
Usually the API error has nothing to do with that, if there's a skill in queue that I don't have in the DB it simply wouldn't show. API error means I received an error from CCP when requesting the data.
I will however also get around to update the database so the skill shows properly.
/c
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Kithran
117
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:17:51 -
[396] - Quote
Khanid Voltar wrote:Kithran wrote: Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx.
It's not the API that needs to be updated but the website/app. Eveboard says it is an API error because the API is telling Eveboard that you have a skill injected that Eveboard has never heard of before. Therefore it cannot make sense of the API and says it is an API error. Chribba is usually pretty quick to update eveboard, but as with so many of these very useful but free applications, devtime is unpaid - I am sure he will get to it soon.
For reference I've now finished training Caldari Tactical Destroyer and moved on to something else. Refreshing the api used with Eveboard has solved the problem as has refreshing (the different) api used with Evedroid so I think I can safely say the problem was caused by have Caldari Tactical Destroyer in the skill queue specifically. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
51551
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Posted - 2015.08.29 08:46:15 -
[397] - Quote
Just wanted to say thanks for creating this app.
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.09.08 17:00:31 -
[398] - Quote
Char is not updating :/ http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless
Error: Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14858
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Posted - 2015.09.09 13:56:28 -
[399] - Quote
Reactivated
/c
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digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:45:13 -
[400] - Quote
On the verge of 261 million SP, and 2 skills away to max out the gunnery tree in 2 weeks.....Well, save for doomsday since I don't want this char stuck in a titan....
Next up on the menu....Missiles, and they all get maxed on this tree, then a few more space ship command skills......Not much left on the perception / willpower attribute front basically, probably around my next birthday ( in the real world )... |
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Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
149
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Posted - 2015.09.30 07:13:53 -
[401] - Quote
I have a question about the Compare Pilots feature. When you compare two or more pilots, it comes up with a Total Points at the bottom. How does eveboard calculate this score?
The reason I am asking is that I occasionally compare myself to other pilots close to my sp that is being sold on the character bazaar. I usually do + or - 5m sp to compare and I always seem to have the highest score. I have even compared myself to those 10 to 20m higher and I am confused why I still have a higher score than they do. I have 36m sp and I had a higher score than a 61m sp toon, so can you please explain how that is scored?
Thank you, I greatly appreciate it.
Just something about me...
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5501
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:59:04 -
[402] - Quote
In case it hasn't already been mentioned....
CCP changes to the support website have broken the "new-style" predefined API key links, but the "old-style" still works.
https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/CreatePredefined?accessMask=59645960 |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:22:41 -
[403] - Quote
I added a skill to my queue, when there was an hour left till completion of the previous skill. When the new skill started, my Evemon did NOT show it as 100% completed.
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LordOdysseus
Skyfang Inc.
296
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Posted - 2015.11.13 02:27:43 -
[404] - Quote
Chribba, I have a suggestion(if this has not been discussed before). There is this Global Rankings on EVEBoard,right? It shows many statistics on who has the most of what(skillwise mostly). How about adding the statistic about who has the most unallocated skillpoints in a descending order? I think it is as similar as the idea of having "who has the most ISK" statistic. What do you think about this?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15071
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Posted - 2015.11.13 07:03:42 -
[405] - Quote
LordOdysseus wrote:Chribba, I have a suggestion(if this has not been discussed before). There is this Global Rankings on EVEBoard,right? It shows many statistics on who has the most of what(skillwise mostly). How about adding the statistic about who has the most unallocated skillpoints in a descending order? I think it is as similar as the idea of having "who has the most ISK" statistic. What do you think about this? I have the data and will try add the toplist asap
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:30:11 -
[406] - Quote
Greetings all,
Chribba, since the introduction of the new skills "Command Destroyers" and "Logistics Frigates" last week, my board ranks page has shown that I have 1 level 2 skill and 1 level 3 skill, with the rest trained to level 4 or 5. I have added the two new skills but have trained each just to level 2, with the intent of holding them there (and collecting other new skills at L2) until I can figure out how to bring a batch of new level 2 skills through level 3 with as little impact on my overall rank as possible.
The lone level 3 in the data is, of course, currently crushing my overall rank - is it possible to correct this?
Also, and I know this has come up in the past but I don't think it has been talked about lately, has there been any further thought on changing the L4 and L3 rank categories to be cumulative rather than mutually exclusive, i.e., the Level 3 rank would become number of skills that are L3 or higher and L4 rank number of skills that are L4 or higher?
Thanks, as always, for your efforts in maintaining this outstanding resource! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15099
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Posted - 2015.12.15 06:23:29 -
[407] - Quote
I have yet to update the database for the new skills so that is most likely why your rank got kicked a bit. I've not yet thought about that type of "grouping".
What's the benefit of grouping them by level and rank together? There would be a lot of grouping then I think, especially if you are going to do 5 groups per rank.
Lv1-5 @ Rank1 Lv1-5 @ Rank2 and so on?
/c
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1180
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Posted - 2015.12.15 07:12:17 -
[408] - Quote
I could be totally wrong about what he is asking, but: I don't think he means the skill rank, I think he means the EB ranking of "number of skills at level 3"
For instance, I currently have 44 skills at level 3. My ranking is in the 10,000 range for that stat. If I train a couple skills to level 4, my ranking will go backwards for that stat, but it may also go backwards on EB overall. So a better trained character may have a worse ranking.
Again, I could be interpreting his question wrong, but I observed my own character going backwards in ranking. Since all I was doing was pumping up level 3's to level 4, I deduced that was the issue. At one point, I think I had a years worth of skills that I pushed to level 4.
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Khanid Voltar
S.A.S
58
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Posted - 2015.12.15 12:31:08 -
[409] - Quote
imo the eveboard global ranking sucks (altho endless love ofc for the /c man)
It has created perverse disincentives to complete skills to increase global ranking.
I get that it was done this way so that a newcomer could have as high a chance of increasing global ranking as a vet but as time has gone on and you see people skilling specifically to increase global ranking rather than to actually complete more skills you have to wonder what the point of it is at all.
@ Raven I believe the optimal level to have your skills at (in terms of global ranking) is half way between 4 & 5, there is a discussion somewhere in this thread where someone gives the formula and explains how it is done.
Personally I try to think about the global rank as little as possible!
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Khanid Voltar
S.A.S
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Posted - 2015.12.15 12:49:29 -
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Chribba I have been meaning to ask if there is a way now to show number of ships with Mastery Level 5 on eveboard?
I know Evemon now has Masteries (I know that is nothing to do with you) but does that mean that they are on the API now, or have the Evemon team possibly done something internally to include such metrics (in which case don't worry) ?
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
89
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Posted - 2015.12.15 19:57:40 -
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What Towaoc is asking for is to change 2 ranks.
Change the "number skills at level 3" to "number of skill at level 3 and higher. and the same for "number of skills at level 4" to "number of skill at level 4 and higher.
The reasoning for this is so you don't get penalised in the global ranking for having a low number of skills at level 3 or 4 or none at all at which point you get a penalty score for having a no data rank.
However doing the above will basically duplicate the total number of skills rank. My self for example:- number of skills at level 3+ = 410 , number of skills at level 4+ = 410 same as total number of skills.
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:27:32 -
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Raven and Amateratsu are on to what I'm saying.
It's a complex issue, hard to approach in this venue, but put simply, the current methodology penalizes characters who have advanced most or all skills to Level 4 and Level 5.
The error in my character's data illustrates the adverse impact of the current methodology of assigning mutually exclusive Level 3, 4 and 5 ranks in arriving at overall rank:
Level 5 skills: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 skills: 185, rank: 53 Level 3 skills: 1, rank: 70,344 (other stuff) Overall rank: 57
Current methodology with corrected data:
Level 5 skills: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 skills: 185, rank: 53 Level 3 skills: 0, rank: approximately 1,750 (eveboard imputed value for a null category) (other stuff) Overall rank: 1 (sorry, somebody has to be here...)
Revised methodology with cumulative L3 and L4 ranks:
Level 5 skllls: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 or higher: 409, rank: probably top 20 Level 3 or higher: 409, rank: probably top 20 (other stuff) Overall rank: 1
Overlook, for a moment, my shameless plug to remain #1, and focus on the adverse impact that a low Level 3 skill total has on overall rank. With many characters reaching the "all skills trained to Level 4 or higher" level (see separate thread on the subject), now may be the time to revise the ranking methodology to better recognize those achievements.
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:52:42 -
[413] - Quote
Khanid Voltar wrote: ......It has created perverse disincentives to partially complete skills in order to increase global ranking.
Guilty as charged. I implemented this tactic several years ago as part of a strategy to ascend to #1 in global ranking. It worked. I imagine others have done the same. But hey, having all of the skills i needed for what I do in the game already, why not? How about a +1 for being clever??
More seriously, the proposal above would negate this tactic, helping to restore the true spirit of the eveboard rank - that being to showcase characters that have achieved an advanced level of training in a broad and balanced set of skills.
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Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
213
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Posted - 2015.12.16 07:38:39 -
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I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be...
Just something about me...
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1181
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Posted - 2015.12.16 17:39:37 -
[415] - Quote
Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be...
Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average.
^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all.
It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are.
Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything the wanted in game.
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voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
402
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Posted - 2015.12.16 21:36:08 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be... Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average. ^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all. It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are. Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything the wanted in game.
That does go a long way to explaining something that I had noticed. That there were players with 10 - 20 mill SP less than me that were ranked higher than me and I couldn't see any obvious reason why that was the case. I wasn't bothered enough to post and ask about it but it's good to know. Cheers :) |
Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
214
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Posted - 2015.12.17 06:42:25 -
[417] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be... Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average. ^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all. It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are. Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything they wanted in game. Thank you for explaining that. As I was comparing myself to those within my sp range (just passed 41m sp) that were for sale on the character bazaar, I was floored on how much was being paid for them but I had a 'higher score' overall. Now that makes complete sense since I have spent the last 15 months filling in all the holes I had when I went pure tank/cap and had no offense.
Just something about me...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15101
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Posted - 2015.12.17 09:11:03 -
[418] - Quote
Khanid Voltar wrote:Chribba I have been meaning to ask if there is a way now to show number of ships with Mastery Level 5 on eveboard (or even for each level eg # @ l1, # @ l2, # @ l3 etc) ?
I know Evemon now has Masteries (I know that is nothing to do with you) but does that mean that they are on the API now, or have the Evemon team possibly done something internally in order to be able to include such metrics (in which case don't worry about it) ? I will look into seeing if I can show that somehow.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15101
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Posted - 2015.12.17 09:15:35 -
[419] - Quote
I think I understand what you're all saying about the ranks now yeah. And I agree with you guys that the overall and such is pretty sucky, as well as me being a bit lost on a really good way to get an overall rank.
Perhaps I should try and make the ranks more of % of the max you can have in a group and use those values. As that also would be more dynamic I think than pure number of skills at a level.
The default "null" value is always problematic as it can have a big impact on things, and to the clever people gaming the eb ranks... I feel honored actually haha that you're playing the eb-game!
But in the end yes I need to look over the rankings.
/c
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1184
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:48:37 -
[420] - Quote
"Sucky" is not a word that has ever crossed my mind.
It is what it is, and I game it, accept my place in it, appreciate it.
Cool Fun Helpful Free Entertainment
Those are the words that come to mind
Thank you C for all your work. |
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
19
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Posted - 2015.12.18 15:47:39 -
[421] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:"Sucky" is not a word that has ever crossed my mind.
It is what it is, and I game it, accept my place in it, appreciate it.
Cool Fun Helpful Free Entertainment
Those are the words that come to mind
Thank you C for all your work. Agree!!
I hope my suggestions are received as constructive - possible ideas on how to enhance eveboard's excellence.
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
81
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Posted - 2015.12.19 10:21:36 -
[422] - Quote
Jumping in, I'd like to reiterate an old idea of eveboard.
When it was created, Chribba mentioned an intention to offer something different than just a ranking which lists old pros ahead of new players. What I'm thinking is to put the present core against the age of the player and rank relativly according to the age of the player.
Effectively that would mean, that another arithmetic step would need to be added as the final step in the ranking calculation. This additional step divides the number of days since the date of birth by the score value as been calculated right now. Simple as that. A younger pilot with a certain score would be ranked higher than an older pilot with a similar score.
This would change the top of the list only a bit (but placings would actually be reshuffled), however I believe it would significantly change the ranking in the middle and the bottom of the list.
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
89
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Posted - 2015.12.19 17:58:10 -
[423] - Quote
Juwi Kotch wrote:Jumping in, I'd like to reiterate an old idea of eveboard.
When it was created, Chribba mentioned an intention to offer something different than just a ranking which lists old pros ahead of new players. What I'm thinking is to put the present core against the age of the player and rank relativly according to the age of the player.
Effectively that would mean, that another arithmetic step would need to be added as the final step in the ranking calculation. This additional step divides the number of days since the date of birth by the score value as been calculated right now. Simple as that. A younger pilot with a certain score would be ranked higher than an older pilot with a similar score.
This would change the top of the list only a bit (but placings would actually be reshuffled), however I believe it would significantly change the ranking in the middle and the bottom of the list.
This is not a good idea.
Here's an example to explain why:--
My current global rank is 37. #Days since i started EvE 3,851
3851 / 37 = 104. So with your idea i would be pushed down to 104th place and will never ever be able to climb higher. In fact the older my character gets the further down the ranks i will be pushed.
Every player will decline in the ranks the older they get with noway to ever climb back up.
Altho there is room for improvement... The current system allows any player to climb the ranks regardless of their age, and thus gives everyone a fair chance at climbing the ranks.
Your system would penalise older players forcing them down the ranks with no possible return.
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
81
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Posted - 2015.12.19 21:22:16 -
[424] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:
My current global rank is 37. #Days since i started EvE 3,851
3851 / 37 = 104. So with your idea i would be pushed down to 104th place and will never ever be able to climb higher. In fact the older my character gets the further down the ranks i will be pushed.
That's not what I meant. It's not the number of days devided by your rank, but by score which determines your rank. Your score is 2,542.41, so you would calculate 3851 / 2542.41 = 1.5147. This would be your new score determing your rank. And I have no idea what this new rank could be, it could be better then now, worse or even exactly the same. Generally, when you are a comparetivly younger player around those being ranked close to you, you would climb up, if you are older then the rest, you would decent.
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
90
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Posted - 2015.12.20 11:59:02 -
[425] - Quote
in the current system a lower score = a higher rank, so training to reduce that score is the way to climb the global ranks. introducing the #days division would reverse that causing a reduced score to push you down the ranks.
So you would need to increase your score to climb the ranks, which would require you to stop training and let everyone else overtake you.
So any player actively training to reduce their score would get penalised and pushed down the ranks |
Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
81
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Posted - 2015.12.20 14:40:56 -
[426] - Quote
I think I now have got it down. The two factors of my proposed calculation are the age in numbers of days and the scorre as calculated right now. Both are "better" when the number is smaller, so both figures need to be multiplied and not divided. The smaller the resulting product, the higher the rank.
Players who are relativly young compared to other players around them in the list would climb up some places, players who are relativly old most likely would loose some places. When applying this, number one and two of the overall rank list would switch places, since Claire is much younger then Viggen and the difference in the score is small.
This would remove part of the intrinsic advantage of being a long time player and give younger player, who want to play the EB-game, a chance of a better rank.
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
19
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Posted - 2015.12.20 16:04:29 -
[427] - Quote
Very interesting idea, but I think a bunch of 1 and 2 day old characters would end up on top.
To test this, I went to the "Average SP/Hour" ranks to find a new character:
"ili2cnt" for example, is a couple of days old, has a rank of 60,715 and an underlying score of 54,818.57. Multiplying by the 2 day age, we get a total of 109,637.
Viggen, on the other hand, at rank 1 has an underlying score of 862.66 but is something like 4,400 days old, for a total of 3,795,704 - a total that would move him way down the ranks.
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Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
81
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Posted - 2015.12.20 16:35:57 -
[428] - Quote
Hmm... true...
One solution could be, that only pilots being at least a certain number of days old (for instance 100 days) would be ranked in the list. Another one could be, that only pilots who are below the theoretical max value of average sp/hr (what is 2,800 afaik) would be included in the list. I think that nobody except the top 10,000 are looking at their overall rank, anyways.
But maybe it is just an interesting, but not a good idea ...
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
90
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Posted - 2015.12.20 17:45:50 -
[429] - Quote
If you use ANY statistic (be it age or any other stat) in the calculation that only a certain percentage of players have, then you are going to penalise those players against all the other players who don't have that particular stat.
What you want is a global ranking system that treats all players equally so that all players can achieve a ranking position if they put in the appropriate training.
With Eve fast approaching 13 years Online, there is no way a new player can compete with a 10 year vet with regards to ranking.
Something that has previously been suggested is having several duplicate ranking pages each of which lists only players within a particular age group.
For example have 10 copies of each of the ranking pages, page 1 ranks all players up to 1 year old, page 2 all players 1 - 2 years old and so on to page 10 that ranks all players 10 years old and over.
This would be much fairer than adjusting a players score based on theirage or any other statistic.
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Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
19
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Posted - 2016.01.18 17:33:43 -
[430] - Quote
It seems that this discussion can be closed as next months with skill points trading all this discussion will loose all meaning. Why bother about a ranking where you can go where you want with money. It seems that I will need to look for another game. |
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
90
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Posted - 2016.01.18 18:07:26 -
[431] - Quote
Integra Arkanheld wrote:It seems that this discussion can be closed as next months with skill points trading all this discussion will loose all meaning. Why bother about a ranking where you can go where you want with money. It seems that I will need to look for another game.
It will all depend on the base cost of the extractor, and the value the markets settle on for the injectors. Too cheap and the skill traning system will become obsolete, as everyone will simply buy themselfs to max sp.
Too expensive and only the super rich will use it, leaving everyone else behind.
Either way i think it will be another nail in Eve's coffin. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1193
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Posted - 2016.01.18 18:39:47 -
[432] - Quote
Integra Arkanheld wrote:It seems that this discussion can be closed as next months with skill points trading all this discussion will loose all meaning. Why bother about a ranking where you can go where you want with money. It seems that I will need to look for another game.
A few thoughts:
I don't play much any more, but I keep my subs going so I can keep training. The training game, and eveboard are about all I have time or energy to do. (Dumb, I know, but it's my game and my time) If I can buy skill points... not much use in keeping 3 subs going all the time. I can shut down 2 and play a bit with this character. If SP cost as much as a months sub, it's a break even proposition. If they cost more, then economically, the sub time is a better deal, but if they cost less, I'd easily shut down 2 accounts.
The same maths will apply to the character bazaar.
This will make remaps obsolete. Basically makes attributes obsolete. Map for ships n guns, buy the rest.
Bad news in my opinion. It will make most of the long term players feel cheated. My hope would be, that the SP cost a FORTUNE.
My own personal silver lining: I have enough skills that I don't need to buy anything.
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
90
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Posted - 2016.01.18 21:59:22 -
[433] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:
A few thoughts:
I don't play much any more, but I keep my subs going so I can keep training. The training game, and eveboard are about all I have time or energy to do. (Dumb, I know, but it's my game and my time)
Your not alone in this. I think a lot of Eve Boards top players are in this boat, me included.
I keep my subs going purely to maintain my characters training. But depending on how much skill trading costs, this may become obsolete. It may become a case of if you can't beat them, join them, or quit altogether:/ |
Integra Arkanheld
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
19
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Posted - 2016.01.19 08:56:40 -
[434] - Quote
With 1 year subscription, you will probably be able to buy many Skill points. My character is from middle 2007, and I am over 200M points. Now it means that the character was well planned. For me it means that instead of gaining less points to have that skills I want, I had to wait to remaps (so sometimes years) to learn some skills. I was looking to be good in the long run. Next month, people will be able to make a character from 0 to 50M very fast, and then still be able to go at a good speed with money. Someone who makes a good living with more than 100000$ per year, and that is willing to pay for example 100$ per month, will be able to buy for example 2 plexes and many skill points every month, leaving behind most of the other players.
IT removes all the motivation to keep the account as I play a lot less than before. There is no satisfaction in amassing items or isk with the plexes. And now it is the same with skill points |
Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
82
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:58:12 -
[435] - Quote
I have an alt with approx 22 mil SP. I could transfer 17 mil to my main, who has over 180 mil SP. I calculated that and I would get the worth of nearly 80 days of skilltraining of my main. In case of selling the alt, I could get around 10 bil ISK. 90 days or 3 plexes of game time, what would be the cost of what I could gain, is around 3 bil ISK. Loosing 7 bil ISK, to safe 80 days of skilltraining on a char, which has already some 10 years of training? I would be dumb to do this.
The other way around? Who would actually castrate a 180mil SP char to support a 20+ mil pilot? I am not even willing to think about this.
Those rich people who buy a pilot and skill her (of course it will be a she) up with thousands of dollars to max out all skills? They will be the joke of the game and a favourite target of all low skilled PvPers to demonstrate that she still can be killed - easily by the way, because the player most likely has no idea what he's (of course he is male in RL) doing. Of course everybody will know who this pilot is, because why doing it, without anybody knowing?
A 100+ mil SP pilot who has actually played the game does not need to fear a 300+ mil newbie , who simply has bought the skills. As a result, I don't think, that this will change anything for the pilots which are playing the game for more then 5 or 6 years. On the other hand, it will change a lot for new pilots. Inexperienced pilots with money will be able to win against inexperienced pilots without money, because in this class it makes a difference if you have 4 mil SP or 40 mil SP. I'm sceptic that this is a smart move by CCP to allow this.
I'm quite relaxed about all this. It hardly will affect my gameplay. Depending on the costs of extractors and injectors I probably will shift some skill points on my 22 mil alt to streamline him before selling him. Cause I have decided to sell the chars on that account and close it afterwards long ago.
"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
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Morgan Agrivar
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
250
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Posted - 2016.01.19 20:51:44 -
[436] - Quote
I would get rid of and sell all the mining skills this character has and would gut my 22m sp alt to fill in what Morgan lacks, and then more than likely never touch sp selling again.
Just something about me...
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Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
483
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Posted - 2016.01.20 09:15:01 -
[437] - Quote
Am I missing an update to eveboard?
Command destroyers & Logistics frigates are not showing up on my skillsheet.
I might just be bad at this game, I probably am.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Shaleen
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:35:32 -
[438] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I think I understand what you're all saying about the ranks now yeah. And I agree with you guys that the overall and such is pretty sucky, as well as me being a bit lost on a really good way to get an overall rank.
Perhaps I should try and make the ranks more of % of the max you can have in a group and use those values. As that also would be more dynamic I think than pure number of skills at a level.
The default "null" value is always problematic as it can have a big impact on things, and to the clever people gaming the eb ranks... I feel honored actually haha that you're playing the eb-game!
But in the end yes I need to look over the rankings.
/c
Hey Chribba,
First of all as always great work mate . I do agree that the rank system needs to be re-assessed . I mean it seems like its all about having more skills and then sp allocated in all those skills ... I get it, some players like to have the option (even though they might never use it) to be able to do anything in the game . Nothing wrong with that.
Personally, I always wanted to have all my sp dedicated to PVP , reaching lv5 in all of them and not wasting any sp on anything else (I personally cannot even salvage). I have over 250mill sp,which gives me 38 position in total sp in whole eve , Im rank 34 by most sp by lv5, 52 rank by number of level 5 sp, 60 by average sp per skill... Yet my overall rank is 1054.
Honestly I do not care that much about my overall rank since the only stat I really care is the most sp per skill (pvp skills) the better. The way I see it, it is a very simplified overall rank system that is just based on who has the most skills and how many sp allocated in them.
It put the lotion on the skin or else it get a hose again
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Amber Solaire
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:02:00 -
[439] - Quote
None of the links seem to be working, so can`t find out how to update my character/acct |
digitalwanderer
DW inc
409
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Posted - 2016.02.15 03:49:18 -
[440] - Quote
Shaleen wrote:Chribba wrote:I think I understand what you're all saying about the ranks now yeah. And I agree with you guys that the overall and such is pretty sucky, as well as me being a bit lost on a really good way to get an overall rank.
Perhaps I should try and make the ranks more of % of the max you can have in a group and use those values. As that also would be more dynamic I think than pure number of skills at a level.
The default "null" value is always problematic as it can have a big impact on things, and to the clever people gaming the eb ranks... I feel honored actually haha that you're playing the eb-game!
But in the end yes I need to look over the rankings.
/c Hey Chribba, First of all as always great work mate . I do agree that the rank system needs to be re-assessed . I mean it seems like its all about having more skills and then sp allocated in all those skills ... I get it, some players like to have the option (even though they might never use it) to be able to do anything in the game . Nothing wrong with that. Personally, I always wanted to have all my sp dedicated to PVP , reaching lv5 in all of them and not wasting any sp on anything else (I personally cannot even salvage). I have over 250mill sp,which gives me 38 position in total sp in whole eve , Im rank 34 by most sp by lv5, 52 rank by number of level 5 sp, 60 by average sp per skill... Yet my overall rank is 1054. Honestly I do not care that much about my overall rank since the only stat I really care is the most sp per skill (pvp skills) the better. The way I see it, it is a very simplified overall rank system that is just based on who has the most skills and how many sp allocated in them. In the end with the new skills system to be implemented in February all that discussion might be quite pointless.
That's when T2 capital weapons are released right? |
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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Affirmative.
444
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Posted - 2016.03.14 08:29:46 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Am I missing an update to eveboard?
Command destroyers & Logistics frigates are not showing up on my skillsheet.
I might just be bad at this game, I probably am. I was just about to ask a similar question, I'm guessing the last update to the ships I can fly/cannot fly page was done just before the Gallente T3D was added. |
Cord Binchiette
Intergalactic Fight Club Gentlemen's.Club
55
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Posted - 2016.05.03 17:18:44 -
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Just wanted to point out that EveBoard places the skill, "Resistance Phasing" in the Armor section rather than the Engineering section like CCP has it on their skill tree. It's also listed as "Armored Resistance Phasing". It actually affects armor and shield hardeners.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1250
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Posted - 2016.05.28 15:28:01 -
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Updates look good. Thank you, as always, OMG Labs. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6169
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Posted - 2016.06.01 12:01:42 -
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Are NPC corp standings gonna come back? |
Kelby
68
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Posted - 2016.06.08 13:07:50 -
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I've just noticed Force Auxiliary skills are still showing in the list of skills and are being included in the SP total at the bottom of the page.
Thanks again for the site! |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1259
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Posted - 2016.07.31 04:28:31 -
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Whatcha doin' ? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15492
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Posted - 2016.07.31 13:26:34 -
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I have some hardware issues that unfortunately cannot be looked at until tomorrow
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The Invisible Man
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.08.10 06:39:27 -
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I have found a few skills that don't show up right when comparing characters. Here is a list i made of them (by comparing one of my characters to the one that has every skills):
Armor Armor Resistance Phasing -> Engineering / Resistance Phasing
Corporation Management Anchoring -> Structure Management / Anchoring Starbase Defense Management -> Structure Management / Starbase Defense Management
Drones Advanced Drone Interfacing -> Fighter Hangar Management Combat Drone Operation -> Light Drone Operation (or Medium Drone Operation (one of them is a new skill)) Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing -> Advanced Drone Avionics Fighter Bombers -> Heavy Fighters Light Fighters Support Fighters Scout Drone Operation -> Drone Avionics
Electronic Systems Projected Electronic Counter Measures -> Burst Projector Operation Turret Destabilization -> Weapon Destabilization
Engineering Capital Energy Emission Systems -> Capital Capacitor Emission Systems
Gunnery Capital Artillery Specialization Capital Autocannon Specialization Capital Beam Laser Specialization Capital Blaster Specialization Capital Pulse Laser Specialization Capital Railgun Specialization Doomsday Rapid Firing
Missiles Citadel Cruise Missiles -> XL Cruise Missiles Citadel Torpedoes -> XL Torpedoes XL Cruise Missile Specialization XL Torpedo Specialization
Production Battleship Construction -> Advanced Large Ship Construction Cruiser Construction -> Advanced Medium Ship Construction Frigate Construction -> Advanced Small Ship Construction Industrial Construction -> Advanced Industrial Construction Production Efficiency -> Advanced Industry Reverse Engineering -> Science / Sleeper Encryption Methods
Spaceship Command Amarr Tactical Destroyer Caldari Tactical Destroyer Command Destroyers Expedition Frigates Gallente Tactical Destroyer Logistics -> Logistics Cruiser Logistics Frigate Minmatar Tactical Destroyer ORE Freighter
Structure Management (new group) Structure Doomsday Operation Structure Electronic Systems Structure Engeneering Systems Structure Missile Systems
Trade Customs Code Expertise |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15495
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Posted - 2016.08.10 18:22:32 -
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I'll try have the compare fixed when possible
/c
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Fade Azura
Logistics and Salvage Express Services
166
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:50:39 -
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thanks for the great site |
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Msyltek Kurova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.09.12 21:18:48 -
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Hi, could you delete the key for this pilot, I extracted some sp and its still not registering after 2~ days please and thanks |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15564
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Posted - 2016.09.13 08:56:49 -
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Msyltek Kurova wrote:Hi, could you delete the key for this pilot, I extracted some sp and its still not registering after 2~ days please and thanks You can delete your character from the /home page. However it's not likely to solve your problem as there's a bug in the API that it sometimes do not reflect extracted sp properly in the api.
So the problem is most likely not on [eb]'s side but rather CCP's. You're not the only pilot that has that sort of problem after extracting.
/c
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2016.10.11 18:37:40 -
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Have you removed the npc corp and npc agent standings pages?
The faction standing one is coming up ok but the other two are completely blank? |
Nosum Hseebnrido
Interregnum.
7
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Posted - 2016.10.13 01:47:12 -
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Is it possible for us to get a new ranks categories that show a list of players that accumulate they SP only by passive skill gain, and no boosters or injectors?
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nosum_Hseebnrido
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2016.11.30 17:41:39 -
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Page two, that just won't do for this excellent app / thread.
oh btw
Chan'aar wrote:Have you removed the npc corp and npc agent standings pages?
The faction standing one is coming up ok but the other two are completely blank?
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