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Fishmaskle
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:51:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Goons and TEST continuously act like assholes on a daily basis and then cry about it when people don't like them.
This is funny stuff.
People really don't get how this effects EVE as a whole and the fact that they are Goons/TEST means squat.
The fact that people hate Goons/TEST is because they push till they find the limit of almost everything (and their "Victims" are angry about being Victims). When the community that doesn't understand the system pushes back and increases the limits, that is when "freedom" within the Sandbox is lost. If I helped you out, Technical Issue,-áenemy gank, popped your poor fit,-áhit the "Like" button. |

Naj Panora
Azerick Holdings The Paganism Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:52:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.
DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:52:00 -
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And for those talking about goon pets or equating me with the goons. **** the goons. I hate em. I hate their treatment of test. I hate their hippocracy in stating that all members of the CFC are equal while at the same time treating us as nothing more than pets. I hate their double standards regarding their handling of usage of their space. I hate the way their diplos will outright lie to their allies. The way they have manipulated markets in fountain during deployments to favor their market assholes and industrials while screwing TEST members. **** the goons.
This is about one ******* who used the threat of suicide to try and get his way, and the public lynching of the one man with enough balls to put that ******* in his place. The Wis deserved it. And he deserves much worse. The Mittani, regardless of the fact that he's a bastard and a complete *******, did not. |

Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:53:00 -
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Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because he gave that information in the eve mail sent to the goons and in repeated posts on the forums. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1336
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:53:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm........You all disgust me.
CCP has been notified of your condition will be conducting their suicide hotline protocol shortly. |

Fishmaskle
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:55:00 -
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Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook... If I helped you out, Technical Issue,-áenemy gank, popped your poor fit,-áhit the "Like" button. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
34
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:57:00 -
[37] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
936
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
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http://imgur.com/Pogih
giggidy! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kairos Antilles
United Systems Nautical Service
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
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Vanir Tsero wrote:The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't mean [sic] that they aren't [sic].
+1. Unless you are a licensed clinicial psychologist or other mental health professional - you CANNOT make that determination. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1404
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
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Fishmaskle wrote:Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook... Then there are those that keep overlooking the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
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Capacity gear
Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
22
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:00:00 -
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sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
220
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:02:00 -
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Really doesn't matter if the guy was truly suicidal or not on CCP's end. Even if he was lying about being suicidal, Mittens still was in the wrong for saying what he did.
And yes, if the guy was lying, then I would say that perhaps he deserves punishment as well. But that wouldn't excuse the actions of Mittens.
Hell... I think Mittens did a good job on CSM6 and IMHO doubt the focus of the game would have come to where it is now had it not been for his efforts.
But Liking him and the job he has done does not mean that he should come out of this without any punishments levied against him.
Though, I hope he runs again in CSM8. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
626
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:02:00 -
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I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah").
I personally feel CCP has the right to decide the way they did. Almost agree with their decision.
However the mob mentality of people is getting frustrating. Its getting to the point that I am more disgusted by the community reaction than what The Mittani did.
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Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:06:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you.
Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game. |

Shade Severii
Satan's Escorts MIDGET CHUCKERS
29
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:06:00 -
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CCP did what they saw fit. I support them in there ban and kicking him off the CSM
BUT
**** ALL YALL white knighters who pretend they care about people with sever depression. All you care about is trying to beat down on someone you think is a villain.
I have crippling depression spells where i can barely move and all I want to do is take my mind off of it and play some games.....THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS FLAUNT IT IN GAME AND TRY TO USE IT TO MY ADVANTAGE. I want to forget about it for a few hours and have some fun.
all you internet lawyer white knight assholes can go **** yourselves |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1337
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:07:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread:
Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me.
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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:08:00 -
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Capacity gear wrote:sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice
I'm always up for a bit of gallows humour, I've often made fun of my own condition at times, that's just part of how my condition affects my sense of humour. Calling for others to potentially victimize someone because of their condition is a step over the line. |

Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:09:00 -
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Capacity gear wrote:sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice
Someone gets their morality from South Park. |

Khanh'rhh
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
988
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:09:00 -
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The Wiz used "wanting to die" and losing his Mackinaws interchangeably, in the same sentence.
I want to know what actions CCP are taking to protect him, since he is clearly too mentally imbalanced to see the difference between eve and real life. Or, you accept he was lying / trolling, in which case the OP makes a valid point.
I will also add that CCP approved the slide where Mittens was going to be mocking The Wiz. They can just sodding go away with their "he removed the name, so it was fiiiine" because the first thing I did when watching live, was find the guy to see what happened. I didn't even hear Mittens spell out the name (thanks for the crappy audio, CCP) but it is TRIVIALLY EASY TO FIND THE IN GAME NAME OF SOMEONE WHO IS PART OF A BATTLEREPORT WITH THE LOSS OF 23 MACKS.
It took me about 10 seconds and a trip to eve-search to achieve this.
CCP can't honestly have us believe that his name not being in the original slide turned this whole thing from being "OK, you can use that" to "BANNED! BANNED!" -- if mentioning the name was so important, was Mittens in any way briefed? Was he warned that the slide passed by the very narrowest of margins, and should the name get out there, he would be banned from the CSM and Eve? - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:14:00 -
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Shade Severii wrote:sever depression.
server depression is srs,okaaais??
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:15:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game.
The Wis did not threaten to commit suicide. Read the mail (that the Mittani displayed and mocked in front of thousands of people).
As to the rest, you really are unable to judge his precise frame of mind even now and your categorical statements about the way that all suicidal people behave do not bear a moment's scrutiny. The Mittani was certainly unable to make any vald clinical assessment when he made his comments. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
468
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:16:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote: The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.
And it matters not if real or fake.
the mittani assumed it was real.
This just is not you guys' week is it ?????
Words of wisdom from Mass Attack : "At this point you guys are exposed and not in a good way. The zomgz fear reflex you wish to instill has been supplanted by lolz and once you go down that street like walking into the woods with a stranger, you ain't coming back. " Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
626
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:16:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread: Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me. And maybe you should read the OP. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1337
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:26:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread: Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me. And maybe you should read the OP. I did and I think it should be reported asap.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
471
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:36:00 -
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Shade Severii wrote:CCP did what they saw fit. I support them in there ban and kicking him off the CSM
BUT
**** ALL YALL white knighters who pretend they care about people with sever depression. All you care about is trying to beat down on someone you think is a villain.
I have crippling depression spells where i can barely move and all I want to do is take my mind off of it and play some games.....THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS FLAUNT IT IN GAME AND TRY TO USE IT TO MY ADVANTAGE. I want to forget about it for a few hours and have some fun.
all you internet lawyer white knight assholes can go **** yourselves
This just isn't your week is it ?
And now, some Mass Attack: "There isn't anything left for you to do to carebears. You've shot your wad, sorry. Go, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. The only people that care are you guys, who hype up your own "achievements" amongst yourselfs and add some arbitrary and irrelevant level of importance to it." Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:38:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:if you listen to the interview on eve radio with the wis most of what the OP said is correct. ololol
Is there a link with recording? |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1089
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:45:00 -
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What a historic week here in the EVE-O forums.
So much goon spooge to start and then washed away by the goon tears. Now again post after post of them rubbing their now flaccid e-dicks trying to get a chub up for this Jita thing.
It's a great time to be a part of this game.
Mr Epeen  Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Altimo
Clan Hyena Axiom Solaris
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:53:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think MR WIS should watch EVE future vision video, and listen to the words that the lady speaks.
"Honor isn't about making the right choices, its about dealing with the consequences... Your choice comes back around" Something like that or other.
Also from what I understand, CCP I guess they had to cover for an incident that took place, regardless of how small it is, the problem was the outcry of an individual and the explosion of media that took place, and the fact that this issue was just blown so far out of proportion by most of the community. the player in question is obviously doing fine, it was just an act. Mittani was not correct in his actions to pursue the issue "Outside of the boxing ring" as a GM stated.. but is there really a need to crucify him for it? Naaah.
I wonder how 90% of you would have treated this issue if you were the ones to receive that eve mail in the middle of a wardec or another situation or something.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. IF you have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
474
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:09:00 -
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Altimo wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.
You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad.
This just isn't your week, is it ? Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1089
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:14:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Altimo wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.
You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad. This just isn't your week, is it ?
Can't you see that mittens is the victim here?
It's not his fault that he is a egoistic, sociopathic, megalomaniac. Really. Poor guy.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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