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Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:29:00 -
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The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. |

BuckStrider
Hardcore p0wnography
28
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:31:00 -
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Awwww....Poor little Gonnie pet gonna cry?
Need me to call you a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance? |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
465
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:35:00 -
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I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:35:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:Awwww....Poor little Gonnie pet gonna cry?
Need me to call you a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance?
I'm reporting you for mocking and griefing outside of the game the above poster who is obviously suffering from manic depression. I demand that you step down from the forums and CCP ban you for a month. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
410
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:36:00 -
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if you listen to the interview on eve radio with the wis most of what the OP said is correct. ololol I have more space likes than you.-á |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
614
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:36:00 -
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Manufactured disgust is manufactured. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Vanir Tsero
Critical Mass Inc. Pinked
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:36:00 -
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Could we not say the same thing about your rant just now? Using your own Depression as an argument to state that another player is falsely portraying themselves as depressed?
The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't me that they arn't.
The internet prevents you from knowing for sure. Altho you may know transcripts from the player. You may have even met him at fanfest or know where he lives. The internet is still anonymous and knowing 100% that an individual is mentally sound is a false statistic.
As I said before. It's never worth the risk when it comes to physical harm of an individual. |

Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:38:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
I'm depressed too, and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for using your clinical status to put a guilt trip on other players. |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:38:00 -
[9] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
you mad bro.. yeah i think you mad bro. would you like scented or unscented roll. lavender, or rose. chill bro... wipe them tears bro. cut those strings bro. I always wondered if you do not go along with the goontards, are they not going to give you moons and space... why you following and not leading. |

Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:38:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.
I'm sorry? The public mockery of a pathetic **** that used the threat of suicide for social manipulation not once but twice is why he is being punished? **** that. The Wis is the one who should be permanently ******* banned for doing something so abhorrent as to threaten suicide to make gankers feel bad for him and leave him alone. Anyone in this game who does something like this should be banned. It is disgusting and a slap in the face to anyone who is ACTUALLY having these issues in real life. That fact that you would support this kind of **** is disgusting and utterly pathetic. Go to hell you *******. |
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adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:38:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:I know everything listen to me.
Hey when did you get your mind reading powers OP?
Please go bungee jumping with ropes made in china. |

Bane Necran
217
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:39:00 -
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I can hear the Goonies cry. Oh mama mia, mama mia.
Small little tiny tears. Smaller than a dog tear. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1401
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:40:00 -
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Goons and TEST continuously act like assholes on a daily basis and then cry about it when people don't like them.
This is funny stuff. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
227
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:41:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:I can hear the Goonies cry. Oh mama mia, mama mia.
Small little tiny tears. Smaller than a dog tear.
How many goon tears can you fit on the head of a pin?
CSM7 Skype Leak
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Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:42:00 -
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[quote=Vanir Tsero]Could we not say the same thing about your rant just now? Using your own Depression as an argument to state that another player is falsely portraying themselves as depressed
The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't me that they arn't
The internet prevents you from knowing for sure. Altho you may know transcripts from the player. You may have even met him at fanfest or know where he lives. The internet is still anonymous and knowing 100% that an individual is mentally sound is a false statistic
As I said before. It's never worth the risk when it comes to physical harm of an individual.[/quote
Someone who is actually suicidal does not go throwing that kind of **** out to make people feel sorry for them. A suicidal person deals with such things in private and then either seeks help or they become another statistic. They do not go crying to every person who does something mean to them and threaten to do it. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
173
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:42:00 -
[16] - Quote
*Yawn*
op from TEST, that figures. |

Lord Publow
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:42:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Goons and TEST continuously act like assholes on a daily basis and then cry about it when people don't like them.
This is funny stuff.
You're funny stuff |

Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:42:00 -
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What do you mean "you people" ?????? |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
467
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:44:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live. I'm sorry? The public mockery of a pathetic **** that used the threat of suicide for social manipulation not once but twice is why he is being punished? **** that. The Wis is the one who should be permanently ******* banned for doing something so abhorrent as to threaten suicide to make gankers feel bad for him and leave him alone. Anyone in this game who does something like this should be banned. It is disgusting and a slap in the face to anyone who is ACTUALLY having these issues in real life. That fact that you would support this kind of **** is disgusting and utterly pathetic. Go to hell you *******. Let me put it to you this way, should arrests be made and a trial be held, neither the defense nor prosecution will be addressing anything that went on in the game. They would, however, be totally preoccupied by what went on at Fanfest, and on the microphone.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Zleon Leigh
109
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:44:00 -
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See a hole in the works... People are going to do what OP did, CCP is going to ban, but since CCP policy is no publication of said ban people are not going to see that CCP is serious about this. CCP may have to publish some ban stats for a while, or maybe weekly?
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
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Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
58
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:45:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:What do you mean "you people" ??????
Didn't Ross Perot say that? Look where that got him.
You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.
-Winston Churchill |

Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:46:00 -
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Josefius wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:What do you mean "you people" ?????? Didn't Ross Perot say that? Look where that got him.
I was more thinking of tropic thunder when the fake black robert downy junior said it to ben stiller when he said "what do you mean you people" :P
F.Y.I 30 seconds in: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhqyfx_what-do-you-mean-you-people_shortfilms |

Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:47:00 -
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Sheep tears. |

Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
83
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:48:00 -
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Im not depressed im just one of lifes losers.
btw there is no such thing as "Severe Major Clinical Depression"
Its Clinical Depression or Major Depression depending on whether you subscibe to the DSM-IV or the ICD-3
Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:48:00 -
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I've dealt with depression for 15 years and anxiety for around 2. Yes, it's not funny when people use it to draw attention to themselves or others. If you feel disgust about people saying what took place was wrong, that's within your right, but incitement to harass someone who could have had mental health issues isn't acceptable behaviour. The matter has been dealt with.
If you feel there is some issue here I can only suggest you take it up with CCP. I've never dragged my issues into the game for sympathy or attention, and anyone doing so should step away from the game for a while and return when they feel ready. |

Vanir Tsero
Critical Mass Inc. Pinked
28
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:49:00 -
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Well, You yourself threw out your clinical depression instead of keeping it private.
I also know that a lot of people who are suicidal will say things like this. My younger brother went through this. He reached out because he needed that attention. He was in a dark point in his life. He reached out for that much needed interaction but didn't get it. Thankfully, all tho he tried, he was not successful. It's also sad that it made it to that point before he got what he needed.
What I am trying to say is that how "you" feel about it and how someone else may "feel" may not be the same. If you do suffer from depression, you may suffer in a completely different way than someone else. Where as you may find that it should be private, others reach out and express these feelings.
Again, I reiterate... It's never worth the risk. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
139
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:50:00 -
[27] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:[quote=Vanir Tsero]Could we not say the same thing about your rant just now? Using your own Depression as an argument to state that another player is falsely portraying themselves as depressed
The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't me that they arn't
The internet prevents you from knowing for sure. Altho you may know transcripts from the player. You may have even met him at fanfest or know where he lives. The internet is still anonymous and knowing 100% that an individual is mentally sound is a false statistic
As I said before. It's never worth the risk when it comes to physical harm of an individual.[/quote
Someone who is actually suicidal does not go throwing that kind of **** out to make people feel sorry for them. A suicidal person deals with such things in private and then either seeks help or they become another statistic. They do not go crying to every person who does something mean to them and threaten to do it.
LRN2Quote... [quote=CCP Guard] I'm running out of original ways to tell you guys to stop. [/quote} |

Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
33
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:51:00 -
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Goons, they think they are tough and "Hardcore" then something does not go there way and they cry and cry and cry. Its priceless really.
"Deal with it" as your dear leader once said not so long ago. Should take his advice goon sheep. |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
228
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:51:00 -
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Oh no, Meta-gamers got meta-gamed.
My heart bleeds.
CSM7 Skype Leak
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1087
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:51:00 -
[30] - Quote
Just pop a Valium before logging into the forum.
Works for me.
Mr Epeen  Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Fishmaskle
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:51:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Goons and TEST continuously act like assholes on a daily basis and then cry about it when people don't like them.
This is funny stuff.
People really don't get how this effects EVE as a whole and the fact that they are Goons/TEST means squat.
The fact that people hate Goons/TEST is because they push till they find the limit of almost everything (and their "Victims" are angry about being Victims). When the community that doesn't understand the system pushes back and increases the limits, that is when "freedom" within the Sandbox is lost. If I helped you out, Technical Issue,-áenemy gank, popped your poor fit,-áhit the "Like" button. |

Naj Panora
Azerick Holdings The Paganism Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:52:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth.
DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:52:00 -
[33] - Quote
And for those talking about goon pets or equating me with the goons. **** the goons. I hate em. I hate their treatment of test. I hate their hippocracy in stating that all members of the CFC are equal while at the same time treating us as nothing more than pets. I hate their double standards regarding their handling of usage of their space. I hate the way their diplos will outright lie to their allies. The way they have manipulated markets in fountain during deployments to favor their market assholes and industrials while screwing TEST members. **** the goons.
This is about one ******* who used the threat of suicide to try and get his way, and the public lynching of the one man with enough balls to put that ******* in his place. The Wis deserved it. And he deserves much worse. The Mittani, regardless of the fact that he's a bastard and a complete *******, did not. |

Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:53:00 -
[34] - Quote
Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because he gave that information in the eve mail sent to the goons and in repeated posts on the forums. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1336
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:53:00 -
[35] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm........You all disgust me.
CCP has been notified of your condition will be conducting their suicide hotline protocol shortly. |

Fishmaskle
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:55:00 -
[36] - Quote
Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook... If I helped you out, Technical Issue,-áenemy gank, popped your poor fit,-áhit the "Like" button. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
34
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:57:00 -
[37] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
936
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
[38] - Quote
http://imgur.com/Pogih
giggidy! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kairos Antilles
United Systems Nautical Service
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
[39] - Quote
Vanir Tsero wrote:The way I see it, is Clinical Depression and Suicide are nothing to joke around about. Period. Whether you believe it to be true or not, it's never worth the risk. Mittani has been seen as crossing that line because he disregarded the risk. Some people will say silly things regarding suicide when they are in a state of decline or in a situation where they feel helpless. It doesn't mean they are and it doesn't mean [sic] that they aren't [sic].
+1. Unless you are a licensed clinicial psychologist or other mental health professional - you CANNOT make that determination. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1404
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
[40] - Quote
Fishmaskle wrote:Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last I checked, The name of the Character IN GAME was relased, not the real life name. There is a big difference that everyone seems to purposly overlook... Then there are those that keep overlooking the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
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Capacity gear
Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
22
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
220
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:02:00 -
[42] - Quote
Really doesn't matter if the guy was truly suicidal or not on CCP's end. Even if he was lying about being suicidal, Mittens still was in the wrong for saying what he did.
And yes, if the guy was lying, then I would say that perhaps he deserves punishment as well. But that wouldn't excuse the actions of Mittens.
Hell... I think Mittens did a good job on CSM6 and IMHO doubt the focus of the game would have come to where it is now had it not been for his efforts.
But Liking him and the job he has done does not mean that he should come out of this without any punishments levied against him.
Though, I hope he runs again in CSM8. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
626
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:02:00 -
[43] - Quote
I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah").
I personally feel CCP has the right to decide the way they did. Almost agree with their decision.
However the mob mentality of people is getting frustrating. Its getting to the point that I am more disgusted by the community reaction than what The Mittani did.
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Cellestielle
Mare Tranquillitatis Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you.
Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game. |

Shade Severii
Satan's Escorts MIDGET CHUCKERS
29
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:06:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP did what they saw fit. I support them in there ban and kicking him off the CSM
BUT
**** ALL YALL white knighters who pretend they care about people with sever depression. All you care about is trying to beat down on someone you think is a villain.
I have crippling depression spells where i can barely move and all I want to do is take my mind off of it and play some games.....THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS FLAUNT IT IN GAME AND TRY TO USE IT TO MY ADVANTAGE. I want to forget about it for a few hours and have some fun.
all you internet lawyer white knight assholes can go **** yourselves |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1337
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:07:00 -
[46] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread:
Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me.
|

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
Capacity gear wrote:sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice
I'm always up for a bit of gallows humour, I've often made fun of my own condition at times, that's just part of how my condition affects my sense of humour. Calling for others to potentially victimize someone because of their condition is a step over the line. |

Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
132
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:09:00 -
[48] - Quote
Capacity gear wrote:sounds like someone has got a case of the 'poor me's'
however my view on mocking anything is this ,.. we can either mock everything, or mock nothing
you can't have one group above being mocked, such a thing would be prejudice
Someone gets their morality from South Park. |

Khanh'rhh
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
988
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
The Wiz used "wanting to die" and losing his Mackinaws interchangeably, in the same sentence.
I want to know what actions CCP are taking to protect him, since he is clearly too mentally imbalanced to see the difference between eve and real life. Or, you accept he was lying / trolling, in which case the OP makes a valid point.
I will also add that CCP approved the slide where Mittens was going to be mocking The Wiz. They can just sodding go away with their "he removed the name, so it was fiiiine" because the first thing I did when watching live, was find the guy to see what happened. I didn't even hear Mittens spell out the name (thanks for the crappy audio, CCP) but it is TRIVIALLY EASY TO FIND THE IN GAME NAME OF SOMEONE WHO IS PART OF A BATTLEREPORT WITH THE LOSS OF 23 MACKS.
It took me about 10 seconds and a trip to eve-search to achieve this.
CCP can't honestly have us believe that his name not being in the original slide turned this whole thing from being "OK, you can use that" to "BANNED! BANNED!" -- if mentioning the name was so important, was Mittens in any way briefed? Was he warned that the slide passed by the very narrowest of margins, and should the name get out there, he would be banned from the CSM and Eve? - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
174
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:14:00 -
[50] - Quote
Shade Severii wrote:sever depression.
server depression is srs,okaaais??
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
123
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:15:00 -
[51] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game.
The Wis did not threaten to commit suicide. Read the mail (that the Mittani displayed and mocked in front of thousands of people).
As to the rest, you really are unable to judge his precise frame of mind even now and your categorical statements about the way that all suicidal people behave do not bear a moment's scrutiny. The Mittani was certainly unable to make any vald clinical assessment when he made his comments. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
468
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote: The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.
And it matters not if real or fake.
the mittani assumed it was real.
This just is not you guys' week is it ?????
Words of wisdom from Mass Attack : "At this point you guys are exposed and not in a good way. The zomgz fear reflex you wish to instill has been supplanted by lolz and once you go down that street like walking into the woods with a stranger, you ain't coming back. " Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
626
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:16:00 -
[53] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread: Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me. And maybe you should read the OP. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1337
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder if Mittens could claim harassment for all the threads started about him (not this one as it isn't another "blah blah ban Mirttani blah blah"). Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread: Quote:The Mittani and how all of you people disgust me. And maybe you should read the OP. I did and I think it should be reported asap.
|

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
471
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:36:00 -
[55] - Quote
Shade Severii wrote:CCP did what they saw fit. I support them in there ban and kicking him off the CSM
BUT
**** ALL YALL white knighters who pretend they care about people with sever depression. All you care about is trying to beat down on someone you think is a villain.
I have crippling depression spells where i can barely move and all I want to do is take my mind off of it and play some games.....THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS FLAUNT IT IN GAME AND TRY TO USE IT TO MY ADVANTAGE. I want to forget about it for a few hours and have some fun.
all you internet lawyer white knight assholes can go **** yourselves
This just isn't your week is it ?
And now, some Mass Attack: "There isn't anything left for you to do to carebears. You've shot your wad, sorry. Go, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. The only people that care are you guys, who hype up your own "achievements" amongst yourselfs and add some arbitrary and irrelevant level of importance to it." Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
20
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:38:00 -
[56] - Quote
Dbars Grinding wrote:if you listen to the interview on eve radio with the wis most of what the OP said is correct. ololol
Is there a link with recording? |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1089
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
What a historic week here in the EVE-O forums.
So much goon spooge to start and then washed away by the goon tears. Now again post after post of them rubbing their now flaccid e-dicks trying to get a chub up for this Jita thing.
It's a great time to be a part of this game.
Mr Epeen  Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Altimo
Clan Hyena Axiom Solaris
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 20:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Cellestielle wrote:stuff. Seek help, leave the game, and pull the plug on your computer, that is the best advice I can give you. Yes I'm suffering from depression, I began conteplating suicide, so I got help. I did not however threaten to commit suicide to people who blew me up. I've lost billions in ships, cargo, etc. But never would I use the threat of suicide to try and get someone to not blow me up. Check my killboard, go ahead. It's wonderful. But I'm not of any delusion that this game has an affect on my actual life. And if getting ganked ever once made my depression worse, or caused me to contemplate killing myself, even for a second, I would no longer be playing this game.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think MR WIS should watch EVE future vision video, and listen to the words that the lady speaks.
"Honor isn't about making the right choices, its about dealing with the consequences... Your choice comes back around" Something like that or other.
Also from what I understand, CCP I guess they had to cover for an incident that took place, regardless of how small it is, the problem was the outcry of an individual and the explosion of media that took place, and the fact that this issue was just blown so far out of proportion by most of the community. the player in question is obviously doing fine, it was just an act. Mittani was not correct in his actions to pursue the issue "Outside of the boxing ring" as a GM stated.. but is there really a need to crucify him for it? Naaah.
I wonder how 90% of you would have treated this issue if you were the ones to receive that eve mail in the middle of a wardec or another situation or something.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. IF you have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
474
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
Altimo wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.
You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad.
This just isn't your week, is it ? Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1089
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:14:00 -
[60] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Altimo wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.
You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad. This just isn't your week, is it ?
Can't you see that mittens is the victim here?
It's not his fault that he is a egoistic, sociopathic, megalomaniac. Really. Poor guy.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
333
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:16:00 -
[61] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.
And you know nothing you pathetic vulture. |

Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
61
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:21:00 -
[62] - Quote
pretend depression in an attempt to add weight to view point and be relevant is for pretend.
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
182
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:24:00 -
[63] - Quote
Last time I will post in one of these whining threads.
GSF has always metagamed in EVE and even took it beyond levels anyone could imagine.
They have pulled off stunts which make the whole Mittani debacle look like kids play.
Now that their beloved CEO and heavily voted on chairman for the CSM get's a piece of his own medicine the whole world all of a sudden is too small to breath in without inhaling absolute contempt that GSF got hit by a part of the outgame things they themselves always prided themselves with.
I don't give a rats arse if Goons try to be the ultimate bad guys. But hell, you went from ultimate bad to ultimate whiny in the course of a few days.
For years you have done your uttmost best to be the most hated entity in EVE and now that you have what you wanted all along you start crying about how unfair it is when your own tactics get used against you.
You truly are a pityfull remnant of what once Goons actually were and I hope The Mittani is gonna slap some real Goonblood into you guys and girls again.
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C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:24:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live. I'm sorry? The public mockery of a pathetic **** that used the threat of suicide for social manipulation not once but twice is why he is being punished? **** that. The Wis is the one who should be permanently ******* banned for doing something so abhorrent as to threaten suicide to make gankers feel bad for him and leave him alone. Anyone in this game who does something like this should be banned. It is disgusting and a slap in the face to anyone who is ACTUALLY having these issues in real life. That fact that you would support this kind of **** is disgusting and utterly pathetic. Go to hell you *******.
Calm down kidda
2 wrongs don't make a right
Wiz was out of line if he lied
Doesn't excuse M actions in the slightest
Don't try play your high card on me either, cos I've lived on a ward for 2 years sectioned against my will for suicidal tendencies
It is YOU who are now using it as a platform
Get over yourself
and get well |

Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
121
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:25:00 -
[65] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
You have a very strong point and I agree completely that anyone that chooses to mock somone elses IRL issues by pretending they suffer from them or cracking jokes at them about it is wrong.
However I also feel that going out and promoting others to harass someone about/into commiting suicide is also an offense.
It's like a Tale of Two Cities...
If the victim was pretending then he is just as wrong that this situation as gotten out of hand. Although I nor you can honestly say what his mental status is. We just don't know that when it comes down to it and that's why these actions had to be taken. To protect THOSE that DO have issues from others who would THINK the act of doing what Mit did was kosher..
It wasn't. I understand where you are coming from. But Mintanni is not innocent in this case. If anything he's the one that fail for some bait and if that guy knew he was going to take it ALL the way to Fanfest and make a presentation and then get drunk and present his presentation.. I serioulsy don't think that happened.. It would take a bid between the both of themm.. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
477
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.
And you know nothing you pathetic vulture.
"You think high-sec-carebear cares? High-sec-carebear is craaaaaazy, he don't give a ****. " Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,000 Goons cried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Dharh
Ace Adventure Corp Blue Meanies
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:38:00 -
[67] - Quote
Some of you people need to seek some serious mental help. |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:45:00 -
[68] - Quote
Dharh wrote:Some of you people need to seek some serious mental help.
You know from someone who's had a bit , I'd say a few people round here would be best adviced to seek profesional help. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
414
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:46:00 -
[69] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. Quoted for truth.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:47:00 -
[70] - Quote
Like this girl , she could do with some meds I reckon |
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Plaude Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:50:00 -
[71] - Quote
It's a game. Real-Life has nothing to do in a game. If someone is manically depressed and suicidal, he shouldn't be playing a game that allows people to go out and kill others as they see fit. He might as well have played Counter-Strike, and tried to convince the opposite team not to shoot him because "he's a suicidal and he'll kill himself if they shoot him in the game". It's not an argument, it's a sign of extreme desperation. He already knew he could get shot at anytime, anywhere. He had plenty of opportunity to know that Goons were cutting off Gallente High-sec Ice Belts. He just decided to go mine anyway (most likely AFK too), and then use a (possibly made-up) mental state as a defence for making them not shoot him. The Goons did nothing wrong. They just played the game their way.
Although The Mittani did cross the line by telling people to go harass that random ice-miner and make him kill himself. Joking with telling people to force others into suicide isn't funny. That's just morbid. But ganking people and stealing from them in-game is just playing in the sandbox. When you're playing in the sandbox, for a long enough time, you're bound to get hurt one way or the other. |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
This guy probably be OK with a bit of councilling, a little masochistic but nothiung serious |

Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
848
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:56:00 -
[73] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
Who cares?
What TM did was way over the line and morally reprehensible. Nothing can excuse the fact he encouraged people to convince someone to kill themself. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
76
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:59:00 -
[74] - Quote
It does not matter what condition you have, you leave it at the door. If you do not want to be ridiculed for your conditions / rl character, do not bring it into the game. I have said it before, and will say it again: No one should be immune to ridicule and contempt for their actions in EVE, nor for their attempt to bring their own ****** life into EVE. In every post scam/gank conversation you have in EVE, you will usually assume that someone (o/ OP) is lying for pity or to make you feel bad. |

ReptilesBlade
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
10
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 22:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.
I call BS. He was not sorry and never was beyond the fact that he was justifiably punished for his behavior.
I have been so severely depressed I was suicidal for a very long time. For years! Life is better now because I busted my ass and made it better but I can absolutely appreciate what the victim felt then.
Someone's very real life is worth more than The Mittani's account on a video game.
He should have been banned. Permanently. Period.
The fact that he was not is causing me right now to seriously reconsider how much longer I wish to keep playing this game. |

Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
331
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 22:13:00 -
[76] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
Oh...you are this person's mental health provider? You can supply us all with documentation proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person in question has no signs of depression, clinical or otherwise? Because without that, you are in no position to evaluate anyone else's mental health, only your own. And quite frankly, you should be bearing the standard of this protest due to your own condition. You, above most of us, should be highly offended by the actions at the assembly. There is no way that you should even be defended them...I wager that has something to do with your alliances and all that garbage. Frankly, I don't care who my alliance is, if I was suffering from clinical depression and anyone associated with my group made light of it, I would have slugged them in the mouth for it.
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. That is what i have to say to those who would blindly defend what happened. Snap out of it. He has the decency to admit his wrong doing, and I don't understand why anyone would defend actions that were, at best, reprehensible. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

Altimo
Clan Hyena Axiom Solaris
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:48:00 -
[77] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Altimo wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again, This is not a game you bring personal problems into, its a game your supposed to just enjoy and NOT attach yourself to it as if your life depends on it. You have a problem if being killed in this game causes you so much depression, stop playing, this is not second life.
Being blown up if it all, should throw you into a blood thirsty rage and begin planning your revenge to blow other people up screw them over etc.
You guys just can NOT stop bashing...even BLAMING the victim in this case. At all. Jesus F'in Christ ya'll are sad, sad, sad. This just isn't your week, is it ?
Did this not all happen because he sent that eve mail to the most notorious group in EVE in the first place? that's what started this whole thing, yes yes we know Mittani was wrong, I am not arguing that in anyway. But you really need to look to the bottom of this mess.
Things like this happen in EVE is because people take the game way too seriously at times to where it does harm to oneself and the people around them. |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
170
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:49:00 -
[78] - Quote
Oh look another Mitanni thread.
His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this. |

Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
148
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:58:00 -
[79] - Quote
Fredfredbug4 wrote:Oh look another Mitanni thread.
His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this.
It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
429
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:59:00 -
[80] - Quote
its a f ing 30 day ban, stfu and htfu
oh no, he lost his csm spot... he can go again next year |
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Jax Mones
Barr Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:59:00 -
[81] - Quote
Aranakas wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Oh look another Mitanni thread.
His ban is going to expire and we are still going to hear people whining about this. It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow
April 28th
This is when EvE will notice |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:06:00 -
[82] - Quote
Too bad I can't post a JPEG of a dead horse being beaten.
I suspect that it would describe this thread very well. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
483
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:13:00 -
[83] - Quote
Jax Mones wrote:Aranakas wrote:
It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow
April 28th This is when EvE will notice
Not really. Same as always, just more ships concentrated in an easily avoided area.
"High sec so doesn't care, that they can't even be bothered to come and tell you directly how much they don't give a ****. There isn't anything left for you to do to them. You've shot your wad, sorry. Go, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. The only people that care are you guys, who hype up your own "achievements" amongst yourselfs and add some arbitrary and irrelevant level of importance to it." -- Mass Attack Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,058 Goon voices-ácried out and were suddenly silenced" |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:14:00 -
[84] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Jax Mones wrote:Aranakas wrote:
It'll be a dead topic by tomorrow
April 28th This is when EvE will notice Not really. Same as always, just more ships concentrated in an easily avoided area. "High sec so doesn't care, that they can't even be bothered to come and tell you directly how much they don't give a ****. There isn't anything left for you to do to them. You've shot your wad, sorry. Go, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. The only people that care are you guys, who hype up your own "achievements" amongst yourselfs and add some arbitrary and irrelevant level of importance to it." -- Mass Attack
Actually we made a lot of money off the ice interdiction. |

Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
128
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:16:00 -
[85] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote: The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
Unless you've seen some amount of extra information on this than has been made publicly available....
BZZZTTT!!!! "The Wis" never threatened suicide. |

Zoltar
Perdu Opus
15
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:20:00 -
[86] - Quote
At first I thought Goon tears are best tears, but now I duno. Test tears are pretty damn sweet as well. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
483
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:23:00 -
[87] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Actually we made a lot of money off the ice interdiction.
Can we see the Books ?  Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "...as if 10,058 Goon voices-ácried out and were suddenly silenced" |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate EVE Animal Control
41
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:28:00 -
[88] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me.
Agreed. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
23
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:33:00 -
[89] - Quote
LOL, No Drama like Eve Drama...
on a side note, nobody really cares about the guy that wanted to kill himself, for the most part we wanted to be in the best anti-goon linch mob ever assembled. And it worked, LOL. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:33:00 -
[90] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote: Actually we made a lot of money off the ice interdiction.
Didn't look like it from the pathetic amount Mr. X-Chairman gave away or are you implying he lied again about the amount he had  Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote: The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. No, let's not do that. Didn't we learn a lesson from all this mess? |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
632
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:49:00 -
[92] - Quote
Zoltar wrote:At first I thought Goon tears are best tears, but now I duno. Test tears are pretty damn sweet as well.
Botter tears > Goonie tears > Testie tears
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:06:00 -
[93] - Quote
So let me get this straight OP... He didn't act in the same way you did when you were depressed, therefore he is lying? You really don't see any tremendous gaps in your reasoning there?
Was he wrong for writing about his depression? Yes, but nothing he did was against the EULA.
Was The Mittani wrong for doing what he did at fanfest? Yes, and unfortunately what he did was very much against the EULA.
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Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:16:00 -
[94] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.
This one. |

Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:18:00 -
[95] - Quote
Dbars Grinding wrote:if you listen to the interview on eve radio with the wis most of what the OP said is correct. ololol
What the victim says or does doesn't have anything to do with what Mittiani DID DO, which in fact was a felony and as far as I'm concerned he needs to go to jail where he belongs. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
616
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:24:00 -
[96] - Quote
oh damn a guy from reddit calling me disgusting i hear TEST's home site has gone almost a full month without a child **** subreddit so I guess they must be feeling pretty self-righteous these days. |

Raiykjab
Federal Navy Academy
17
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:32:00 -
[97] - Quote
Damn This game is really full of jackass like OP. It's not a matter of "did the Wis lie or not". It's a matter of should you take the risk to see if it is a lie or not.
Next time open a ticket saying that someone said they'd suicide, it's logged. 1 hour later the cops will go knock at their door to check on them.
Don't jock with suicides, just don't. And CCP didn't have any other choice than do what they did, it's a company and people there still need to work for a normal living.
Grow up guys! Eve has miners?! |

Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
85
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
I dont even know who to believe at this point...
Bottom line is: while using depression as a shield against attacks in an internet spaceship game is a cheap trick, it's nowhere near as bad as publicly humiliating a depressed person. From personal experience I can tell you that much less than that is enough to trigger / worsen an episode of depression which can be dangerous on many levels.
It really isn't something to be ****** with.
As for OP saying that depressed people keep it to themselves... That just isn't true. Many people talk about suicide or at least their depression before they actually attempt to kill themselves.
Even if you don't have any reason to think someone is depressed, is it worth it to humiliate them like that? Doing that is like throwing peanut butter at people you dont know. Most of them will be fine, not a scratch on them, while that one person with a severe peanut allergy will collapse. Probably shouldn't use that comparison since I dont know anything about allergies but yeah. Depressed people can't just move on after something like that. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
64
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
We're supposed to take your word for all this, right?
Oh, and Mittanit's word.
So Test has declared war on this guy's corp, right?
In case you're actually telling the truth about your own status, I'm sorry you have to deal with those problems. But you can't expect anything you or Goons say about this issue to be taken as anything more than whining.
Mittani knew better than to do what he did at fanfest. You should know better than to do what you're doing now.
The Wis is not the one who made the statements. It's not up to the crowd or the game's fans to figure out whether or not he was telling the truth. The point of the rules is that you don't hold somebody up to public ridicule as Mittani did. None of the other issues make a difference. Mittani was the head of CSM at the time he did this really stupid thing. Mittani brought this eve mail and this player out of obscurity to ridicule him publicly. Mental illness has nothing to do with the wrong that was committed. This would have been just as wrong without any of the other talk.
You guys are completely incapable of admitting Mittani's error or your own. Too bad for you. He had a higher standard of behavior to meet than an ordinary player because he was head of the CSM. He failed to meet it. He deserves the punishment, he has said so himself.
To claim the Wis was manipulating anybody is ridiculous. He sent his eve mail to one source and it got forwarded over and over again because you and your kind found it delicious. He is not responsible for making it public. Mittani is.
I hope you get better from your problems. I won't say anything else except that you need to face facts here. You are in fact blaming the person who is really blameless.
But be assured you and your super alliance can wreak your in-game vengeance on him now. |

tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:26:00 -
[100] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:And for those talking about goon pets or equating me with the goons. **** the goons. I hate em. I hate their treatment of test. I hate their hippocracy in stating that all members of the CFC are equal while at the same time treating us as nothing more than pets. I hate their double standards regarding their handling of usage of their space. I hate the way their diplos will outright lie to their allies. The way they have manipulated markets in fountain during deployments to favor their market assholes and industrials while screwing TEST members. **** the goons.
This is about one ******* who used the threat of suicide to try and get his way, and the public lynching of the one man with enough balls to put that ******* in his place. The Wis deserved it. And he deserves much worse. The Mittani, regardless of the fact that he's a bastard and a complete *******, did not.
aww, don't get mad sweet cheeks. eye luvs you. let's go find a nice quiet wormhole and make some space babies. does everyone in test feel the same way as you do? why the hell does test put up with their bollocks then? are test cap pilots that bad in their shinies? give me a nice system and i'll build you a sexy supercap, okay, sugar boogar? don't get mad, baby, get fockin' even. test isn't short for testicle, is it? if not, then all you in test better fricking grow some and kick the goonies arses, baby. shag me baby <3   L L cool j sang it " I needs love" you need my love baby. get nekked now becuz you are goon sheep. |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
321
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:53:00 -
[101] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. I'm not going to read the whole thread, I'm just going to address your OP.
In my 19 years in a hospital I've carried enough people to the morgue from suicide (10 - 15+?) along with several hundred others that I never joke about Suicidal Ideation, attempts or major depression.
Whether *YOU* or *THE WIS* suffer from depression or not is irrelevant.
What The Mittani did was over the line.
Period. Full stop.
I read his apology and accepted it.
I can believe that "Alex G" was sorry for what he did. Because of who he is *in game* and what his corp/alliance/cadre/group whatever have become known for and the reputation *they* cultivate in game and out contributed to the reaction he got.
Are people using this to "score points"? I would bet yes.
Does that change him going over the line?
Not one iota.
If you are depressed, get help.
Don't get so wrapped up in the game that you come to the defense of the indefensible...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:54:00 -
[102] - Quote
Off topic but someone needs to make a Downfall meme....quick! We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
418
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:23:00 -
[103] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:Off topic but someone needs to make a Downfall meme....quick!
im thinking more along the lines of a leave Britney alone video. I have more space likes than you.-á |

Sekket
White-Noise
13
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:31:00 -
[104] - Quote
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:What do you mean "you people" ??????
What do you mean "you people?" - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE |

Naj Panora
Azerick Holdings The Paganism Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:35:00 -
[105] - Quote
Cellestielle wrote:Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because he gave that information in the eve mail sent to the goons and in repeated posts on the forums. And a GOON has never lied? Hmmmm we should tell the world goons are honest |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1125

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Posted - 2012.04.02 15:05:00 -
[106] - Quote
Ranting is not allowed on our forums.
Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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