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LordSwift INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:17:00 - [1] I am ashamed to be british. i cant belive some people can do something like this. Linky Also i read this comment and i am even more ashamed. (This is on the page Quote: I moved to Derby 18 yrs ago & loved the community spirit Derby held -up until last weekend - I am sicken to read comments made in Mondays Derby Evening Telegraph that one woman was annoyed at the selfish act of this boy & how her afternoon was ruined due to this - Also I sat on a bus listening to 3 elderly people saying they were fed up & why did he have to take so long to jump!!!! It disgusts me that people call themselves human being that because he had not got a physical problem & it was mental issues which we can't always see they close their eyes to others & think they are the only people that matters in their tunnel vision world. Words fail me- I hope the little mite rests in peace away from these cruel people
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:25:00 - [2] cold and callous, sorry to say it but its not just the british that do this sort of thing. people dont care about anyone else until it imposes badly on themselves
LordSwift INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:28:00 - [3] Originally by: kor anon cold and callous, sorry to say it but its not just the british that do this sort of thing. people dont care about anyone else until it imposes badly on themselves Yeah that is true. its quite sad really
P'uck	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:30:00 - [4] And one again, the monkeysphere. People will be filth until they accept their monkeysphere - and work with it.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:32:00 - [5] Idiots.
Marie Duvolle United Sentients	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:34:00 - [6] Edited by: Marie Duvolle on 02/10/2008 12:34:26 That's pretty apalling. Per usual being faceless in a crowd (or on the internet) somehow makes the powerless feel as if they're not responsible for their actions. It's not like humans are a virtue and gift to this world, might as well accept that fact. Don't stir the hornet's nest
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:40:00 - [7] To be completely honest, in today's completely heartless society, it doesn't surprise me in the least. I can't feel anything but loathing for people that would do this sort of thing.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:41:00 - [8] Similar stories are around the world. The darn thing is that people are hardened by movies and reality TV, Life has become almost a joke. And frankly it probably is, but boundaries shouldn't be crossed. What i am wondering about is how come fireman didn't put like a landing inflatable or something? they had 3 hours. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:42:00 - [9] Real Life - Cold and Harsh. Adapt or Die. In reality, people are like this because committing suicide from the top of a building is a show of weakness and lack of spirit. Combined with the fact that the general public generally runs on hatred for themselves nowadays. It is easier to kill a problem than it is to rectify it. A lot of people will consider a mental condition such as suicidal tendency, to be a massive burden on society. In my own opinion, the dude has the drive to stand to attention of his death in the first place... even if people did manage to talk him down, he'd either kill himself in a different way or spend the rest of his life in a mental institution as a danger to himself and others. In a way, suicide is a selfish act, especially to your family and friends. Every month somebody throws themselves in front of my train to work... it delays the entire train and its 100+ passengers for an hour or more. That 100 people risk their careers by being late, just because this one individual didn't have the thought to either kill himself with an overdose or a gunshot. Public Suicide is a show. Even though it is a terminal cry for attention, it is still a cry for attention. Most of the valid, tragic suicides will either be undiscovered self-exsanguination, drowning or overdoses. You do not need to jump from a building to end your own life. Nor do you have to make it public. In this case, making your suicide a "public event" will only make people react to it as a public event. The person standing at the top of that building is not a suffering person to them, that person is a showman.
Marie Duvolle United Sentients	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Real Life - Cold and Harsh. Adapt or Die. In reality, people are like this because committing suicide from the top of a building is a show of weakness and lack of spirit. Combined with the fact that the general public generally runs on hatred for themselves nowadays. It is easier to kill a problem than it is to rectify it. A lot of people will consider a mental condition such as suicidal tendency, to be a massive burden on society. In my own opinion, the dude has the drive to stand to attention of his death in the first place... even if people did manage to talk him down, he'd either kill himself in a different way or spend the rest of his life in a mental institution as a danger to himself and others. In a way, suicide is a selfish act, especially to your family and friends. Every month somebody throws themselves in front of my train to work... it delays the entire train and its 100+ passengers for an hour or more. That 100 people risk their careers by being late, just because this one individual didn't have the thought to either kill himself with an overdose or a gunshot. Public Suicide is a show. Even though it is a terminal cry for attention, it is still a cry for attention. Most of the valid, tragic suicides will either be undiscovered self-exsanguination, drowning or overdoses. You do not need to jump from a building to end your own life. Nor do you have to make it public. In this case, making your suicide a "public event" will only make people react to it as a public event. The person standing at the top of that building is not a suffering person to them, that person is a showman. If people who are in a situation like that they're hardly capable of rational thought or able to find help, that's kinda the point. If we follow your way of thinking where people who are 'trouble' should just be let go we might as well close down hospitals and medicare, letting disease and and natural selection 'purify' our society. Did you get any medical/financial aid lately? Don't stir the hornet's nest

LordSwift INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Real Life - Cold and Harsh. Adapt or Die. man i am getting sick of that adapt or die phrase.
LordSwift INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:53:00 - [12] Edited by: LordSwift on 02/10/2008 12:53:56 Going of my own topic, in a bit of a ranty mood today. Further proof of government clamping down on us I really wish i had the power to stop wasting all the money on these stupid studies. Most of them are a pile of poo
Marie Duvolle United Sentients	Posted - 2008.10.02 12:56:00 - [13] People are stupid. Regardless if they're young, parents or old aged. Stupidity breeds. Don't stir the hornet's nest
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:11:00 - [14] Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 02/10/2008 13:11:47 Originally by: Marie Duvolle Did you get any medical/financial aid lately? Can't say I did. Sorry man, but if some dude wants to jump off the top of a building thats his own business. You might as well let him do it, at the end of the day... its just one less person in the world that wouldnt have done anything else 'cept sit in a dark corner either crying, self harming or get driven to the point of shooting up a shopping mall and commiting suicide as a bloody, rage driven crescendo, thusly not only killing himself but several others. If i was to discard all shreds of compassion; If more people that committed suicide just got on with it, there would be a lot less hassle in the world. You have to doubt the sanity anyway, killing yourself? Over what? Did it say? Was he being bullied by the big kids or did his Mom take away his My Chemical Romance CD? As hes a teenager, I sincerely doubt he was that mind-wrecked to have commited suicide over anything more than a trivial issue with his peers, that alone is tragic. Well, hes dead now so what can you do. Imo, he should have aimed to land on the people shouting "Jump you wussy ****" at him.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:29:00 - [15] It would be nice if some disconnected person followed one of those urging the boy to jump home and murdered him, just because life doesn't really matter after all. Then left a message for the press to publish so we all knew justice had been served. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:30:00 - [16] but wheres the brotherly love?
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:33:00 - [17] Originally by: kor anon but wheres the brotherly love? It was found to be sexist and not politically correct, so they banned it.
Sharra Savente Domini Umbrus Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:44:00 - [18] Originally by: kor anon but wheres the brotherly love? San Francisco, or Grenich Village:) ____ English doesn't borrow from other languages; it follows other languages down dark alleys, coshes 'em, then rummages in their pockets for loose bits of grammar.
Sharra Savente Domini Umbrus Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.10.02 13:52:00 - [19] Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2008 13:53:40 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,871135,00.html Most states have this on the books, but this link was the one I found:) ____ English doesn't borrow from other languages; it follows other languages down dark alleys, coshes 'em, then rummages in their pockets for loose bits of grammar.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:02:00 - [20] Originally by: LordSwift Originally by: Reven Cordelle Real Life - Cold and Harsh. Adapt or Die. man i am getting sick of that adapt or die phrase. Adapt than, kill them all off :) that ll teach them. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.

Grimwalius d'Antan Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:15:00 - [21] I'm a bit skeptical about this article, I think they are just looking to blow a story out of proportions and, well, get people to spread the link. Only one or two people have to shout, or even mutter such thoughts recklessly and someone tells the media. They make it sound like the police made the effort to make an official statement, but this "police spokesman" may just be the guy who answered the phone at the station when the reporter made the call to confirm the facts. It looks better that way from a sales perspective. The tone of the article really does give the impression that the police are issuing a statement because a big crowd was heckling a suicidal boy. They call it "news" and it sells. That being said, the western society is largely morally bankrupt. We're so desensitized to death and suffering through entertainment, dubious news and urban legends, nothing seems real and no message gets through to us anymore. Tragedy, **** and injustice is boring, it's the same old, same old. When a video appears of a man being beaten by a gang of police men many try and tell themselves "he probably deserved it". When a prostitute is found strangled and mutilated people tell themselves "oh well she was most certainly a drug addict, these things happen". Some kid is standing around on a rooftop making a big fuss, "Just do it or go home, sissy". We don't care anymore. We're just a number in the social security records, same as everyone else. Their fates doesn't matter. Plenty more where they came from. I read a discussion somewhere that people are developing traits similar to post-dramatic stress syndrome from watching violent footage from Iraq, Afghanistan and Chechnya. I think there is weight to that argument, partially from my own experience. It's very sad that a young man suffered enough to jump. It's sad to think there is a family mourning somewhere. Oh well, let's sensationalize the hecklers. It sells to these depraved masses. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not.
Tao Han Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:34:00 - [22] The song Spring comes to mind. And yes, ppl suck. --------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:49:00 - [23] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 02/10/2008 14:48:54 Originally by: Sharra Savente Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2008 13:53:40 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,871135,00.html Most states have this on the books, but this link was the one I found:) Originally by: The Article "But this is a serious business," warns a top New York prosecutor, "and the laws are tehre to be used." Sounds like a forum post. - DesuSigs
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.10.02 15:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Roxanna Kell The darn thing is that people are hardened by movies and reality TV, It's a good thing that the regular practice of public executions did nothing to harden our forefather's generations. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:02:00 - [25] Originally by: Reven Cordelle ...if some dude wants to jump off the top of a building thats his own business. You might as well let him do it, at the end of the day... its just one less person in the world that wouldnt have done anything else 'cept sit in a dark corner either crying, self harming or get driven to the point of shooting up a shopping mall and commiting suicide as a bloody, rage driven crescendo, thusly not only killing himself but several others. From an equally cold, actuarial point of view, you are wrong. Consider the money spent educating, housing, feeding and clothing this individual over the course of his life, over the 17 or so years up to that point, and then the possibility of how much of a contribution to society, just in purely economic terms, he could potentially have made, earning money, spending it, and paying tax, had he gone on to live a natural life. On average, over the whole population, it makes sense to save as many people as possible; there will always be a few who really are beyond all help, and will be a burden on their peers, but I hold that the vast majority are far more resilient than you give them credit. This is the basis on which a surprising number of decisions are made - for example, whether or not to spend money on road improvements to reduce accident rates in particular areas. Even what might seem like a tiny crop of accidents can quite reasonably justify spending thousands of pounds, because of the loss of income to the state that might result otherwise. --- DIY copying in Liekuri 20:1 mineral compression Eve Online folding@home team
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:14:00 - [26] "Do a flip!!!" ~Bender --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:27:00 - [27] This is why suicidal people should run amok more often. At least they then take some of those idiots with them. -------- Ideas for: Mining
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Abrazzar This is why suicidal people should run amok more often. At least they then take some of those idiots with them. they do they are called suicide bombers
Death4free Caldari ADAMA Corps Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Real Life - Cold and Harsh. Adapt or Die. In reality, people are like this because committing suicide from the top of a building is a show of weakness and lack of spirit. Combined with the fact that the general public generally runs on hatred for themselves nowadays. It is easier to kill a problem than it is to rectify it. A lot of people will consider a mental condition such as suicidal tendency, to be a massive burden on society. In my own opinion, the dude has the drive to stand to attention of his death in the first place... even if people did manage to talk him down, he'd either kill himself in a different way or spend the rest of his life in a mental institution as a danger to himself and others. In a way, suicide is a selfish act, especially to your family and friends. Every month somebody throws themselves in front of my train to work... it delays the entire train and its 100+ passengers for an hour or more. That 100 people risk their careers by being late, just because this one individual didn't have the thought to either kill himself with an overdose or a gunshot. Public Suicide is a show. Even though it is a terminal cry for attention, it is still a cry for attention. Most of the valid, tragic suicides will either be undiscovered self-exsanguination, drowning or overdoses. You do not need to jump from a building to end your own life. Nor do you have to make it public. In this case, making your suicide a "public event" will only make people react to it as a public event. The person standing at the top of that building is not a suffering person to them, that person is a showman. This. Its natures way of weeding out the weak. Eve information kiosk
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.02 17:03:00 - [30] ^ explain jade goody?



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