The best method for all highsec affine players to show the goonies and also CCP, what they think of this sh** is just: Don't log on on 28th.

Let them play alone this day.

Whether you're for or against it, there's one truth here: people will show up to play a game together. I know this may seem altruistic, and you trolls will jump all over me for it, but think about this:

1. If you're 'Pro-Goon', you should be encouraging this action (as some already are), because it'll present you with more targets, and maybe even a little sport.

2. If you're 'Anti-Goon', you should be supporting this, as well. Here's your chance to get in a few jabs at a very low cost.

3. If you're an industrialist, you have a chance to participate in pvp--whether directly by flying in the local fight or indirectly by supplying ships and armaments for those that are.

4. If you're a carebear that may be interested in pvp, well...here you go. Hop in a cheap frig, outfit it with some basic tackle modules, and throw yourself at the invaders.


Seriously, the huge fleet battles of yore are rare nowadays. We aren't seeing the battle reports like we used to. This is NEWS, ENTERTAINMENT, FUN, however you want to refer to it. At the end of the day, if Pinky's 'Save Jita' initiative gets a few dozen/hundred carebears to hop into pvp and 'put up a fight', it'll speak VOLUMES MORE about the EVE community than either the 'Jita Burns' or recent Mittens drama...simply because more than one group is ACTIVELY participating in the event.

"Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

Closing your eyes won't make the problem go away. This isn't just about saving Jita, its about showing groups that there are people in hisec willing to fight back against anti-hisec player events. I'm sure there were lots of people who thought that as long as they didn't mine during Hulkageddon, it didn't affect them and it would just go away. Now we are onto what? Hulkageddon V?

So just avoid major trade hubs on the 28th. Act like this doesn't affect you at all, but don't complain when the next Burn Jita event happens, don't complain when a new player event happens that actually does get you killed or does start affecting your gameplay.

Hisec might not actually have its own sovereignty like nullsec, but it does have a psychological sovereignty in the form of what people think we're willing to take before we fight back.

And Goons, how about thinking of how to make this game as pleasant as possible for EVERYONE and not just for a bunch of idiots?

You're delusional if you think High-Sec pubbies are able to organizing in any way that doesn't directly cause their wallets to increment. By all means try to form up a defense against us, you might even kill a goon or two, but you're going to be going up against one of the most highly organized and efficient military organizations in the game. Your grandiose proposal only shows how ignorant you are of how utterly you're outclassed. High-Sec dwellers who haven't never participated in the destruction of another major alliance or the conquering of entire regions can't conceive of the levels of hell a prepared major alliance is able to bring down upon you.

You're delusional if you think High-Sec pubbies are able to organizing in any way .. and ... By all means try to form up a defense against us, you might even kill a goon or two, but you're going to be going up against one of the most highly organized and efficient military organizations in the game.

Ah does anyone remember what came before jita and why jita is now the main hub. Would love some backstory on the system and how it came to be.

I don't get any joy from being ganked in my 300 mil. Hulk by 3 or 4 cowards in their 5 mil. destroyers without any means to defend myself.

I don't get any joy from my cans being fliped and all I can do is sit and watch.

I don't get any joy from losing my industrial and cargo just because someone else is bored.

And I don't get any joy from being forced into fights I don't want to fight especially if there is no way I can win.

So what can I as a single person do about all this? I'm afraid the only thing is to quit playing.
And that's exactly what I am going to do.

Oh god don't stop now you're getting me so god-damn aroused

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to whine. If this is the way this game is meant to be then so be it. It's just not the way I enjoy playing. But given the fact that the vast majority of the citizens in EVE live in highsec I can't believe I'm the only one thinking that way.

So what can I as a single person do about all this? I'm afraid the only thing is to quit playing.
And that's exactly what I am going to do.

Well, and how exactly do you think we should do that?
How can we stop the Goons from organizing events like Hulkageddon and burn Jita?

I've been playing EVE for almost 4 month now and I have to say I am quite disappointed.

I had great plans of being a miner and producer mining ore, refining it, manufacturing goods and selling them for profit. I actually thought that miner and producer is a honorable profession in EVE being the base of the economy.

But what do you get? Scamming, griefing, ganking and bullying defenseless players seem to be the right way to go in this game.

So you shouldn't be surprised at all that someone who got banned for his antisocial behaviour in RL is planning to terrorise players to celebrate his glorious return and CCP is doing nothing about it.


I don't get any joy from being ganked in my 300 mil. Hulk by 3 or 4 cowards in their 5 mil. destroyers without any means to defend myself.

I don't get any joy from my cans being fliped and all I can do is sit and watch.

I don't get any joy from losing my industrial and cargo just because someone else is bored.

And I don't get any joy from being forced into fights I don't want to fight especially if there is no way I can win.


So what can I as a single person do about all this? I'm afraid the only thing is to quit playing.
And that's exactly what I am going to do.

So if there are other players like me who don't get joy from being bullied around let CCP know and suspend your account to make your voice being heared. If there are enough of us maybe they will listen and give us a little space in their sandbox that dogs don't use as a toilet so we can play the game the way we enjoy it.
I'm afraid that's the only way we can "fight back".


Don't get me wrong. I don't want to whine. If this is the way this game is meant to be then so be it. It's just not the way I enjoy playing. But given the fact that the vast majority of the citizens in EVE live in highsec I can't believe I'm the only one thinking that way.

I also can't believe that there can't be a way to co-exist WITHOUT ruining other players game. If there really is no way to respect players who want to live in peace or only want to fight FAIR battles then it's best (at least for me) to leave sooner rather than later because I came to EVE to have fun (my kind of fun - without hurting anybody) and not to get frustrated.


And Goons, how about thinking of how to make this game as pleasant as possible for EVERYONE and not just for a bunch of idiots?



So long pilots
and fly safe, even if it's not in the EVE universe

*tears*

Goons, have fun, i truly hope your lulz are realized in this endeavor. Anti-Goons - if you REALLY want to ruin the Goons super happy fun time - don't go to Jita. DERP. They can keep Jita as we have at least 7 other major trade hubs in Hi-Sec.

As much as I'd like the Goons to have their fun, I do believe most care-bears that are not idiotically suicidal will probably share my view. GL to the 'Resistance' or whatever, but i really think you'd do more damage by just making the Goons bored and steering clear of Jita altogether.

I heard this Burn Jita is a protest to CCP?I hope not, that's pretty silly -what is this #Occupy Jita

As a primarily highsec PVP alliance, we have become greatly disturbed by Goonswarm's recent threats to cause Jita to burn. The biggest complaint that carebears have about so-called unconsensual PVP is the false reality that there is nothing they can do to fight back. I want to show carebears and hisec dwellers that this is wrong. As a result, I intend to organize a resistance against Goonswarm in their pre-planned Jita interdiction..

Just a stupid question...
In your first post you indicate that miners should react, which gives the impression you care about the miners who are not into PvP.
In the description of your corporation I did read following:

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Empire War Dec Corp/Alliance

For Contracts/Prices Contact Dungar Loghoth

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Show You Care, Kill a Carebear!!!

Diplomat: 800mm

Recruitmen:t Invite or Referral Only.

Join our "Public Tears" Channel

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My conclusion is that the two statements seem a bit very slightly contradictory
What I surely will NOT do on the 28th and 29th and the duration of Hulkagedon is being part of a corp or alliance from whom I don't know what there REAL intentions are.

Most of the goons won't even be in jita anyway. Word of mouth is going to slow jita down enough. The goons will set up thier 1800 tornados around the popular gates into jita and after scanning out the best targets stuck on the gates will selectively pop as much isk as they can.