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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.06.24 14:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Zhaka Zuulu
OMG! Why pay toll  ? When you can just log off like everyone else does  . Simply tell the pirate you are going to pay and quickly log off....lol. If you do it fast enough, it will take 1 minute for your ship to fly off. Just as long as no shots have been fired before the log off.
Pretty neat how this works. Unless CCP fixes game mechanic problem you will always have that option
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if hes worp scramebled he aint going no where, i scrambeled a guy slaped him silly to hull like i allways do,then he "CTD" (loged off) i stay and gard his megathron for like 15 min .. so i dont miss out a possible 20 mill ransome ,but no no he didnt wanna logg back in .. weired 
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.06.24 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dezzyb0y on 24/06/2004 15:21:20
Originally by: Eris Discordia
How does the pirate community think of pirates who suggest a toll and when a person agrees on the toll, up the price again.
Is this acceptable, or stupid because it takes up more time?
Its pretty ****ty tbh.. people may not like us but we tend to honour what we say and if you've agreed on a price you cant just bump it up to see what sort of reaction you'll get because they'll say "two fingers to that" and die rather than pay fees then you loose out on income...
A toll window would be good but it would be hard to implement i think especially in systems above 0.0 because u havent got the time to sit there and open a window to chat to someone you just gotta say pay now or kill their ship.
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Booky
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Posted - 2004.06.24 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: toaster
Originally by: Goodberry
Personally 1 isk is too much to pay a pirate.
Good Captains would just fight and go down with their ship if necessary.
Regards
And they do. Taking a stand will cost you your ship and possibly your clone. Logging off will cost you the same. Logging means automatic pod kill too.
Generally a lvl1 BS is 10M, lvl2 is 20M. Cruisers are not worth it but maybe 1-2M. Pods 5-10M.
Any threats in local, heavy smack talk, or approaching the gate..and they die.
Actually, logging off secure your pod. If you log off before your ship explodes then your pod will never show up, I know this cuz ive been low enough to use it. This is unless the latest patch changed this.
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Liona D'aramange
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Posted - 2004.06.24 18:40:00 -
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alliances, blockades, whatever... make some isk and you can live as you like. who cares if anyone claims to "own" a piece of space, its yours to use anyway.
- recon
- evasion
- sweet talk
- manipulation
- success
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Neciis
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Posted - 2004.06.24 18:49:00 -
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just a thought,
why not make some gates conquerable like stations in 0.0... then the conquering corp could set a price to jump, and the money would be automatically withdrawn from the players wallet, after the player agrees via a pop up window indicating the price of course.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.06.24 19:08:00 -
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You mean something like a Jump Gate Speedpass system? Maybe, but you'd also have to set up a toll lane for those of us who opt not to carry the Speedpass transmitter on our ship. 
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.06.25 13:45:00 -
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just wondering, what if after webbing/scrambling someone they jam you? then what do you pirates do when they run away at full speed?
Have any pirates here who were looking for a toll got their asses handed to them in a silver platter?
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.06.25 13:55:00 -
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why should there be a tolling guide line ?
I think how each pirate tolls and what demands he/she carys out is something that define what type of pirate he/she is. Ruteless , violent, polite .. there are many variants and all ranges of demands.
No tolling guidelines please.
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.06.25 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Would something like a toll window ( like trade) be useful in the pirate profession?
not really...but an option like raising a white flag would be superb.
By clicking one button, it deactivates all modules (shield boost, mwd, hardners, all weapons shut down), and the ship stops. A little white-flag icon would appear next to your ship or some sort of signal. It would be a way of saying to the pirate that they give up.
It's been a while since I tolled anyone, but I remember destroying ships because they didn't reaspond fast enough when I told them to stop. They tried the old, stall-for-time-while-approaching-the-gate tactic lol.
as for upping the amount once an agreed upon amount is met...I personally wouldn't do that, but as Lady says...to each his own.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.25 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
How does the pirate community think of pirates who suggest a toll and when a person agrees on the toll, up the price again.
Is this acceptable, or stupid because it takes up more time?
Well considering the guy being charged the toll isnt exactly in the position to be making negotiations, id say its totally at the pirates discretion whatever they feel like charging at the time....
Sass
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.25 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Would something like a toll window ( like trade) be useful in the pirate profession?
Yeah i guess it would be good, however there would be too many complaints from carebears that pirates are being officially recognised and that the lame griefers shouldnt be in the game in the first place (even though it is a recognised profession and the carebears would be bored without us)
Sass
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Unforgivin
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Posted - 2004.06.26 10:13:00 -
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One thing I absolutely have to say. Any pirate who will let you go after you have paid your agreed toll has my respect. In this case it is strictly just business. But as for the pirates who take the toll money and pod kill you anyway, well they can go eat a cookie
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.06.26 11:44:00 -
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everywhere i try to toll it never works. People always try to run the gate. Then they get mad when they loose their ships. They say that they would have paid but they didn't have time to respond or some other BS.
If I am not in a position to lock them down while holding a gate (due to too many people in local, or not enough slots to give up that day, ie needing the extra mods) I expect you to pay prior to warping to the gate. The people (in the area i pirate) know that I am at the gate if I am in local and they should think before warping and running the gate. Because I will kill them.......
I really hate it when I have to explain to the miners that I know how much a hauler can hold in the local ore. I also price the toll to reflect that price per trip. 500k isk is not much to ask for when the local ore is crokite and the ships can hold 3 to 5 million isk worth of the stuff per trip. Its not a huge toll its just my fee to protect them against my malicious side.
I have also found that there are a lot of noob battleship pilots out there mining in the close 0.0 systems. They spend every penny on their ship with no thought to save up anything. I don't know how many times I have locked someone down and had to destroy their ship because they have no money to transfer.
The worst one is the cruiser and frig miners that mine between spawns. They have enough money to buy 10 or 15 of the ship they are using. They do not care if we destroy it and will not pay a toll.
Also insta jumps, I use them but everyone else uses them too. Double edged sword......
They do cause one odd side effect. The guy gets it in his mind he can outrun you on the return trip jumping in also. They usually die then get mad that we killed them.
Sorry for the above rantings......
I just want everyone to know that most pirates are equal opportunity killers. If we kill you no matter the ship (hauler, frig, shuttle, cruiser, battleship) its all business to us. So why convo and say you were incocent and its bad to kill defenseless ships. I don't want to hear it again for the the quadillion'th time. I do enjoy reading the hate mail tho.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.06.27 20:21:00 -
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s******dly tolling?
I thought you were trying to avoid the "pirate" tag at all costs.
I don't think that attracts customers.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.06.27 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Eris Discordia
How does the pirate community think of pirates who suggest a toll and when a person agrees on the toll, up the price again.
Is this acceptable, or stupid because it takes up more time?
Well considering the guy being charged the toll isnt exactly in the position to be making negotiations, id say its totally at the pirates discretion whatever they feel like charging at the time....
I don't agree sass. If you toll someone and they agree to it that should be the end of it. If you raise the toll again they'll know not to ever pay you again or worse, pay any tollers in the future.
Everyone loses. If you give a toll and they pay, let them go i say
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.06.28 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
How does the pirate community think of pirates who suggest a toll and when a person agrees on the toll, up the price again.
Is this acceptable, or stupid because it takes up more time?
Who cares?
Old school negotiating/tolling/pirating is dead anyway.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.06.28 01:39:00 -
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Ill pay you in ammo
even express it to you, so save us both time and dont ask me for no isk
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.06.28 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: MoLeH
all these ppl who says ill never pay a pirate r really funny when you have them scrambled and webbed, then they start to plea for there lives.
I like self destruct better... then you gets nothing but dust on your winder...
Pay? No I dont have that kind of isk to give to you... so you know my answer now... but first you have to catch me.
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