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Jonah Gravenstein
69
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:03:00 -
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I hate Jita, I hate it with a passion, CFC are welcome to raze it to the ground as far as I'm concerned. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
69
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:10:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec. I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.
Are you really going to allow this to happen?
Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...
I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...
not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it... Way to roll over. Just because they're Goons doesn't make them gods. They can be killed just as easily as we can. There is enough players in highsec to decimate the GSF (if there was a united front against them). Behold the Anti-Swarm! |

Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
37
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:12:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub. How much are you willing to wager? They* said the same thing about every single Hulkageddon.
*clueless cry babys |

My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
76
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:15:00 -
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As a CFC pilot who fully intends to have a ganking alt in Jita with my comrades, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the eve community to unite agaisnt us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would make this all the more epic.
Instead of cryong to mommy and daddy (CCP) go back out on the playground and bunch that big bully square in the nose.
I can't stress to you guys enough, how much I want the eve community to show up against us. This is what makes EVE the greatest MMO gaming world in existence. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
434
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:16:00 -
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I for one, will be afking in a heavily tanked ship of somekind, with no cargo and full insurance |

Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:22:00 -
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There are tons of .5+ systems in this game. Goon & their alliance members do not have enough members to cover them all. Their advertised main event is to cause havoc in Jita. Who cares. Let them throw their tantrum for a few days and go play in other areas like most people will do. |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:25:00 -
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got a alt on build i might not be in a corp atm but i will go solo gank some stuff. u cant stop people ganking in high its part of the game. |

Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
38
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:29:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:got a alt on build i might not be in a corp atm but i will go solo gank some stuff. u cant stop people ganking in high its part of the game. I'll be there too. Player created content like this is what makes this game so awesome and I intend to contribute and play a part in this story. Rather than just read a news item I want to say 'I saw Jita burn'. |

Lady Hestia
Paragon Innovations Black Nova Technologies
1
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:36:00 -
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It'd be interesting to see the Jovian empire have something to say on "the swarm of Jita". Hopefully, it will involve explosions. |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
243
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:39:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec. I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.
Are you really going to allow this to happen?
Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...
I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...
not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...
They can gank Jita all they want. I hardly ever do my grocery shopping in Jita. |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
78
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:39:00 -
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I would like to point out something else that the antigoons can do. Now for those of us with higher sp and expensive clones, this would be more difficult. You rookies can really have fun with this. You simply can bait killmails.
Here is what you do, buy cheap T1 haulers, and herofit the crud out of them. Talking bulkheads, damage controls and shield stuff. What we are looking for here is as many goons as you can get on a gank on you, openly get ganked! Hopefully they actually plan on it indiscriminately. Heck, if I still had my freighter, I would have insured it, fly it in and let them gank it. And a very good reason.
You get something called a killright! Come in your own T1 cheap fit combat ship. I am talking get a pulse geddon or the like and insure. If you cannot afford that, get your cruiser or whatever. You now have kill rights so can target them one at a time. They get gank on you, you can now shoot them when you see them to get their gankship without concord offence.
Amazing! Goons get their assault jita as pirates and crime ensues. Highsec (though requires getting the suicided ship) can fight back without getting a sec hit.
And in all reasonability, we all have ships we can suicide. The main risk comes if you do not have an empty jumpclone, or clone replacement in case of bombs and poddings (you know there will be that). Highsec has the advantage is their ships will be insured. Can start teaming up too, after you rack up some killmails, get a couple of good spider tankers in a rear flank protecting the KM guy with primary dps. |

Kyle Yanowski
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
46
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:43:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Because you allow anyone and mainly big alliances to just gank anyone and everyone in highsec. I will put bets on that many newer players will just stop playing and probably unsub.
Are you really going to allow this to happen?
Can you not see that goonswarm really is trying to ruin eve and not as darius johnson stated trying to ruin a players game. Cos ruining a players game, makes them wanna quite, hence ruining eve as a game and product...
I mean they have grown so big that they now pretty much can control eve in anyway they want... First Ice Miners, plus other stuff and now this...
not sure i want to play a game where one alliance can control a whole game, when they want and how they want with pretty much no consequence. They lose 100 hurricanes, so what..their trillions in the stupid amount of moon good they get just keeps the constant churn going.. They could do this everyday for a year and have no problem doing it...crazy aint it...
Do something about it. You have some power, some, but only if you work to organize. The last thing anyone needs, is more government (CCP intervention) . If anything, I like the idea of CCP allowing Jita to explode, even though I will be fighting to save it, it gives me a tangible objective to defend, and something to work for.
If you are that worried about new subs being cancelled, perhaps sit outside of Jita with a can that says "The end is nigh" and inform new players to pack up and move to dodixie for a few. |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:45:00 -
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Lady Hestia wrote:It'd be interesting to see the Jovian empire have something to say on "the swarm of Jita". Hopefully, it will involve explosions.
No, that would be stupid. Stop being stupid. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Lady Spink
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:45:00 -
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It is very easy.
CCP should make Jita a passive environment. they are bright enough to write this in the story for our role players.
If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system, CCP could also remove their focus to have as many as possible players in 1 system.
Lets make Jita a 1.1 system(all guns and drones are jammed) and let the Goonshoarma fight in Perimeter.
Jita gankers can gank everywhere so maybe they loose 5-10 subsribers? |

Mana Potion
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:45:00 -
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evereplicant wrote: Ok lets put your money where your mouth is.. Let me constantly gank you all day.. and lets see how long you you stay playing the game...Deal?
here is where you went wrong. if someone sits at a station and blows you up every time you undock... and you keep undocking over and over... I am thinking you haven't figured out that undocking is dangerous and you should do something to protect yourself. or you should set your clone somewhere else and at the next death.. you will be far away...
That Ganker isn't going to follow you to where ever you moved your clone... he is gonna stay there and blow up the other idiots that undock in an unsafe manner.
The Goonswarm is not going to harrass gank you or any other specific person... they will spread their version of "Fire" across anyone and everyone... Don't fool yourself that you think they are targeting any one specific person to get them to quit.. they don't fight with that in mind. they destroy because "Destruction is Fun!"
I have found that most new players get destroyed doing many things. and for some they learn "Once Bitten, Twice Shy"
If (System.name == Jita) and (PVPDeath == True) Avoid (System.name = Jita)
Most people will not go get burned over and over again unless they have some mental inability to learn from their mistakes. I they are in this category.. perhaps they should unsub and seek help. |

Darronis Olachenko
15
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:47:00 -
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People that would quit over this are people I don't want in my game anyway. |

WhyTry1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:48:00 -
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well in a way i agree, having one alliance pretty much control the whole game, is not right fundamentally. Thats when there is something seriously wrong with the game. Personally i am more than happy to go play another game if this continues. |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:50:00 -
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Lady Spink wrote:It is very easy.
CCP should make Jita a passive environment. they are bright enough to write this in the story for our role players.
If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system, CCP could also remove their focus to have as many as possible players in 1 system.
Lets make Jita a 1.1 system(all guns and drones are jammed) and let the Goonshoarma fight in Perimeter.
Jita gankers can gank everywhere so maybe they loose 5-10 subsribers?
You do realize trade hubs are entirely player created, right? Any system can be a trade hub. CCP didn't pick Jita, we did. Jita is not special.
Welcome to the sandbox. Sometimes you have to share it. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
34
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:50:00 -
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Sieges wrote:evereplicant wrote:[quote=The Antiquarian][quote=evereplicant]Plus in the new upgrade you can buy your way out of sec status I am curious about this. Is it truly ISK for sec?
Not ISK (directly anyway) but tag. Officer tags giving more of an boost than others. Check the presentations given at fanfest: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEF9C7121272AC727&feature=plcp Can't remember on which one it was mentioned, sorry. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:50:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:well in a way i agree, having one alliance pretty much control the whole game, is not right fundamentally. Thats when there is something seriously wrong with the game. Personally i am more than happy to go play another game if this continues.
Take a look at the sov map some time. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |

Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
102
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:52:00 -
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This is all much ado about nothing.
But it is indicative that Goons and that majority of nullsec don't understand highsec at all. BC4CSM
Malcanis for CSM |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:54:00 -
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OP,
I hope the concept of warfare is clear to all.
Anyone can shoot back.
Buck up and take up arms, counter it, but for the love of God, dont cry over it. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
245
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:55:00 -
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Please stop crying about being shot in your spaceships.
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Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
54
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:57:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:well in a way i agree, having one alliance pretty much control the whole game, is not right fundamentally. Thats when there is something seriously wrong with the game. Personally i am more than happy to go play another game if this continues.
If you let somebody else control your game it's your own fault for being a doormat. |

Grikath
T.E.L.O.G.S.
26
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:00:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:yeah I mean i guess the TRILLIONS they make in moon goldetc will not help them...  Please think about this before posting
Indeed...
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Aragoni
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:01:00 -
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I hope CCP let Jita burn as EVE is a sandbox and not a themepark. Why are you even playing EVE, the game of backstabbing and gangrapes, if you want CCP to protect you? Should CCP also protect against large-scale scams? Who draws the line?
If something I would quit EVE if they started interfering with the game. |

Lady Spink
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:11:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:Lady Spink wrote:It is very easy.
CCP should make Jita a passive environment. they are bright enough to write this in the story for our role players.
If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system, CCP could also remove their focus to have as many as possible players in 1 system.
Lets make Jita a 1.1 system(all guns and drones are jammed) and let the Goonshoarma fight in Perimeter.
Jita gankers can gank everywhere so maybe they loose 5-10 subsribers? You do realize trade hubs are entirely player created, right? Any system can be a trade hub. CCP didn't pick Jita, we did. Jita is not special. Welcome to the sandbox. Sometimes you have to share it.
no sorry, i am a complete analphabetic ******.....
Of course I know, but players can influence a game that much that it could impact the game play too much by overloading a system, exploiting, botting, etc etc..
The game masters do have to regulate the game so that there it is still playable and attractive to many players. no one wants to play a massive multiplayer game with only 2 players.
In my message i said: "If the Biggest trade hub in game is a non violent system" I didn't talk about Jita. However adjustments need to be for ever and have to fit into a story, else it would make no sense at all.
Jita wont technically run with about 13000 players in it, so eve will crash and CCP will have 13000 unhappy customers. This has nothing to do with "Entirely player created" People who say that are just stupid. Eve (including Jita) is created and maintained by CCP (technically and financially ) they could turn of JIta or any other system with a finger snip. Eve is not Real, it is a game with technical and financial limitations.
To convince you that i do understand that the "Trade Hub" jita has been created I would not like to see Jita getting a passive system, i would like to see "the biggest trade hub" ingame passive to make the game technically work correctly without putting to much time and research into EvE to arrange a single system able to fit more than 5000 players. |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
50
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:12:00 -
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The nullsec assault on Jita is player driven game content. That makes it awesome. It would still be awesome if it wasn't the GOON's doing it. The OP's complaint does hint at another problem however that does sit with CCP.
The hybrid and destroyer buff as well as the introduction of the tier 3 battlecruisers has created a failry lopsided and cheap gank mechanic. Too cheap. The fact that (let me put on my roleplayer hat) the manufacturers of Industrial and Freight ships would not respond with reinforced hulls, higher EHP, perhaps even ship remodeling is ridiculous.
Jita should burn but CCP should stop designing a game where real world arms race mechanics don't seem to exist.
That having been said:
Hisec alliances get in there and fight. Hire mercs. Wardec the Goons. Protect what is yours and drive the swarm back into the darkness of lawless space. Especially before the stupid new wardec mechanics kick in and it becomes too expensive to wardec such a massive alliance.
Bottom line hisec alliances, corps, players it is your job to warn your people of the coming danger. Just as we operate intel channels in nullsec warning our friends of danger, get up and let the new players know, post it, drop warning containers on the paths into Jita. Be active.
Play the game. |

Araviel
Spiritus Draconis
15
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:12:00 -
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There is one pretty simple method people could use to avoid suicide ganks, and something people probably could use to to great effect to make allot of goonies cry when they start trying to burn jita.
But I am not sure i should tell, as I kind of like things going boom. And also I think there is allot of people here that needs to learn how to think for themselves. |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:14:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:This is all much ado about nothing.
But it is indicative that Goons and that majority of nullsec don't understand highsec at all.
I understand most people don't read this forum and will thus be unaware of our plans.
I understand most people in highsec are incapable of adapting to sudden change. |
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