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Wanderlust Vash	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:15:00 - [1] I've a few questions. I've been speaking with a corp mate about his Domi, we discussed some situations where the Domi would win with their neuts or nosses. I'm a very skilled Nighthawk pilot, and if i go active tank i say byebye to my cap, passive tanking my dps don't scratch him. What was the nerf to noses or neuts in previous updates?. I'm confused, those neut/nos bosses seems to be an I win button
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:22:00 - [2] nos used to drain you completely dry, now it can only drain you down as far as the ship that has it fitting's capacitor level. but I agree, its very hard fly claymore / myrmidon / other hyperactive tanking ship when you know with 90% certainty that every dominix you come across is gonna be fitted with at least heavy neuts.
Wanderlust Vash	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Gneeznow nos used to drain you completely dry, now it can only drain you down as far as the ship that has it fitting's capacitor level. but I agree, its very hard fly claymore / myrmidon / other hyperactive tanking ship when you know with 90% certainty that every dominix you come across is gonna be fitted with at least heavy neuts. I find the Dominix overpowered then, there should be a way to kill a domi? What would be the case
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:31:00 - [4] A neuting domi is usually plated with single rep, because of grid, anytime I've flown one I've capped myself out and died, but its when its combined with something else like a falcon (lol) then its pretty unstoppable, yeah them damn falcons, what a fun breaking ship!
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:35:00 - [5] A buffer tanked non-amarr ship should be able to kill a neut domi just fine. If the domi is using only neuts in his highs than his maximum DPS is only 475. That shouldn't be too much trouble.
Amarrbone	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Gneeznow A neuting domi is usually plated with single rep, because of grid, anytime I've flown one I've capped myself out and died, but its when its combined with something else like a falcon (lol) then its pretty unstoppable, yeah them damn falcons, what a fun breaking ship! This post brought to you by the Falcon Nerfers of Eve PAC. Sponsored by the Nerf Nano Society and paid for by the T20 Remeberance Fund. Special thanks to the "If I lose, the other person's ship, mods, tactics, internet connection, lag button, node crashing, or whatever was the real reason why!" (AKA IILTOPSMTICLBNCOWWTRRW) supports of Cry Babies Anon!
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.10.06 05:43:00 - [7] Originally by: Amarrbone Originally by: Gneeznow A neuting domi is usually plated with single rep, because of grid, anytime I've flown one I've capped myself out and died, but its when its combined with something else like a falcon (lol) then its pretty unstoppable, yeah them damn falcons, what a fun breaking ship! This post brought to you by the Falcon Nerfers of Eve PAC. Sponsored by the Nerf Nano Society and paid for by the T20 Remeberance Fund. Special thanks to the "If I lose, the other person's ship, mods, tactics, internet connection, lag button, node crashing, or whatever was the real reason why!" (AKA IILTOPSMTICLBNCOWWTRRW) supports of Cry Babies Anon! ROFLMAO --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Arte AFK	Posted - 2008.10.06 06:44:00 - [8] Edited by: Arte on 06/10/2008 06:47:13 Are you actually complaining that you wouldn't be able to defeat a battleship in a command ship? Use cap injectors to replace any cap lost if you can't cope without it, or just don't engage a Domi solo in your nighthawk. Nos' used to be overpowered somewhat as they were doing the same job as neuts but without the cap penalty - that ability got removed.
Galliana Foresta Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:37:00 - [9] Drop dead OP. If the domi was overpowered, it would have been nerfed before now. Same goes for the Falcon tbh. ****ing whining shits. HIRING\|KB\|PRESS
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:39:00 - [10] Edited by: Tassi on 06/10/2008 10:41:15 heavy neutrons with 1x heavy NEUT and double armor reps, scares the hell out of anything :/
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Tassi Edited by: Tassi on 06/10/2008 10:41:15 heavy neutrons with 1x heavy NEUT and double armor reps, scares the hell out of anything :/ Good luck being cap stable for any reasonable amount of time.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Strill Good luck being cap stable for any reasonable amount of time. No luck needed, just a calculator and knowledge
Azuse Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:53:00 - [13] but the rigs ruin my cost efficiency! -------------------------
Toolivus Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.06 10:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Galliana Foresta Drop dead OP. If the domi was overpowered, it would have been nerfed before now. Same goes for the Falcon tbh. **ing whining shits. The **ing whining shits are better than the straight out morons.
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.06 11:08:00 - [15] DPS on the neut version of the dominix isn't great, only way to break another battleship is if they are active tanking and not Minmatar/Caldari. Its a limited ship.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.06 12:33:00 - [16] A Neut Dominix is a nasty customer but it's actually not too hard to beat. All you really need to do is insulate your guns/tank from the problem (i.e. cap booster), or go with guns/tank that doesn't need cap (passive hardners, projectiles/missiles). Neut dominixes generally don't put out a whole lot of DPS thankfully, nor do they have much in the way of an active tank themselves.
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.10.06 12:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Wanderlust Vash I've a few questions. I've been speaking with a corp mate about his Domi, we discussed some situations where the Domi would win with their neuts or nosses. I'm a very skilled Nighthawk pilot, and if i go active tank i say byebye to my cap, passive tanking my dps don't scratch him. What was the nerf to noses or neuts in previous updates?. I'm confused, those neut/nos bosses seems to be an I win button If you actually were a 'very skilled Nighthawk pilot' you wouldn't ask this question. See, then, you would know the strengths and limits of your ship. A neut domi has only drones, a nighthawk can easily kill domi drones, even when neuted. This and your buffer alone should be enough to survive. Not being able to kill a active tanked buffer battleship in your shield tanking commandship should also be less of a surprise to you. He can neut you down to 0 cap, not nos unless he has 0 cap in which case you can easily remove his dps, he will use up cap charges to neut you down and tank so after a while that ability is gone aswell, you just need to remove his dps which is very easy for a well fit nighthawk, one of the few ships that can actually instapop a domi drone. As for your dps not scratching him.. well duh.. fly a raven if you want to actually beat a dominix fast, otherwise just keep shooting him and his drones untill he's out of cap charges and drones, then chip away his non regenerating armour slowly but surely. After wasting your mid slots on tackle gear. Short anwser: get a friend and a clue. Long anwser: read up. All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.06 14:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Galliana Foresta Drop dead OP. If the domi was overpowered, it would have been nerfed before now. Same goes for the Falcon tbh. **ing whining shits. yes the game is perfectly balanced forever everything that is possibly overpowered has already been nerfed everything that was possibly underpowered has already been buffed __________________________________ Originally by:** Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Toolivus Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.06 14:40:00 - [19] And don't forget that no changes can ever affect anything else indirectly.
Wanderlust Vash	Posted - 2008.10.06 15:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Keitaro Baka Originally by: Wanderlust Vash I've a few questions. I've been speaking with a corp mate about his Domi, we discussed some situations where the Domi would win with their neuts or nosses. I'm a very skilled Nighthawk pilot, and if i go active tank i say byebye to my cap, passive tanking my dps don't scratch him. What was the nerf to noses or neuts in previous updates?. I'm confused, those neut/nos bosses seems to be an I win button That was usefull. Skilled means Skill points not experience. If you actually were a 'very skilled Nighthawk pilot' you wouldn't ask this question. See, then, you would know the strengths and limits of your ship. A neut domi has only drones, a nighthawk can easily kill domi drones, even when neuted. This and your buffer alone should be enough to survive. Not being able to kill a active tanked buffer battleship in your shield tanking commandship should also be less of a surprise to you. He can neut you down to 0 cap, not nos unless he has 0 cap in which case you can easily remove his dps, he will use up cap charges to neut you down and tank so after a while that ability is gone aswell, you just need to remove his dps which is very easy for a well fit nighthawk, one of the few ships that can actually instapop a domi drone. As for your dps not scratching him.. well duh.. fly a raven if you want to actually beat a dominix fast, otherwise just keep shooting him and his drones untill he's out of cap charges and drones, then chip away his non regenerating armour slowly but surely. After wasting your mid slots on tackle gear. Short anwser: get a friend and a clue. Long anwser: read up.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.06 16:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Wanderlust Vash Originally by: Keitaro Baka Originally by: Wanderlust Vash I've a few questions. I've been speaking with a corp mate about his Domi, we discussed some situations where the Domi would win with their neuts or nosses. I'm a very skilled Nighthawk pilot, and if i go active tank i say byebye to my cap, passive tanking my dps don't scratch him. What was the nerf to noses or neuts in previous updates?. I'm confused, those neut/nos bosses seems to be an I win button That was usefull. Skilled means Skill points not experience. If you actually were a 'very skilled Nighthawk pilot' you wouldn't ask this question. See, then, you would know the strengths and limits of your ship. A neut domi has only drones, a nighthawk can easily kill domi drones, even when neuted. This and your buffer alone should be enough to survive. Not being able to kill a active tanked buffer battleship in your shield tanking commandship should also be less of a surprise to you. He can neut you down to 0 cap, not nos unless he has 0 cap in which case you can easily remove his dps, he will use up cap charges to neut you down and tank so after a while that ability is gone aswell, you just need to remove his dps which is very easy for a well fit nighthawk, one of the few ships that can actually instapop a domi drone. As for your dps not scratching him.. well duh.. fly a raven if you want to actually beat a dominix fast, otherwise just keep shooting him and his drones untill he's out of cap charges and drones, then chip away his non regenerating armour slowly but surely. After wasting your mid slots on tackle gear. Short anwser: get a friend and a clue. Long anwser: read up. That was usefull. Skilled means Skill points not experience. Not in anyone elses world bud. --
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.06 16:16:00 - [22] Your problem is you are flying a Nighthawk with a passive tank. The correct fit for a PvP Nighthawk requires 2x damage mods (you need 3x grid mods) and a passive buffer. That setup will have no problem removing the Dominix's drones, as you will one-shot an Ogre II. Then once the drones are dealt with, the best the Dominix can hope for is to neut away your warp scram before your 550 dps kills him.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.06 16:25:00 - [23] My experience with drone boats (especially the dominix) boils down to: 1) Spend 3 minuts shooting down drones 2) Pound away at drone ship 3) Point is neuted away and drone ship escapes. Doesn't bother me much though - it costs a dominix pilot quite a pretty penny to refil the drone bay. It might not be as good as a KM but it still gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. As a side note, killing drones is perhaps the thing the NH is best at. You can essentially kill any drone within 70 or so KM every 6 seconds. It doesn't take long for that kind of thing to be useful in smaller gangs where drones are a substantial portion of the DPS out there.
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.10.06 21:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Derek Sigres My experience with drone boats (especially the dominix) boils down to: 1) Spend 3 minuts shooting down drones 2) Pound away at drone ship 3) Point is neuted away and drone ship escapes. Doesn't bother me much though - it costs a dominix pilot quite a pretty penny to refil the drone bay. It might not be as good as a KM but it still gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. As a side note, killing drones is perhaps the thing the NH is best at. You can essentially kill any drone within 70 or so KM every 6 seconds. It doesn't take long for that kind of thing to be useful in smaller gangs where drones are a substantial portion of the DPS out there. This. Kill the drones and the Domi has no DPS. Besides that, not every ship can counter another, maybe your nighthawk just can't, try a different ship. Sahriah Bloodstone Pilot of The Crimson Federation
MalVortex Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2008.10.06 22:54:00 - [25] You all just got trolled . I do find it hilarious that Falcons were brought up by the third reply though, without any form of prompting. One track mind indeed.
Commander Thrawn the united	Posted - 2008.10.06 23:21:00 - [26] plated geddon/abbadon with cap injector = dead domi
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.06 23:23:00 - [27] Originally by: MalVortex You all just got trolled . I do find it hilarious that Falcons were brought up by the third reply though, without any form of prompting. One track mind indeed. I agree with you, its about time falcons were nerfed, high five o/\o
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.06 23:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: MalVortex You all just got trolled . I do find it hilarious that Falcons were brought up by the third reply though, without any form of prompting. One track mind indeed. I agree with you, its about time falcons were nerfed, high five o/\o Getting **ed of fighting against the ecm-heavy caldari militia gangs Gneez? Keep losing to those **ers? -- Sig: NARF FALCONS!!!
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.10.06 23:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Amarrbone This post brought to you by the Falcon Nerfers of Eve PAC. Sponsored by the Nerf Nano Society and paid for by the T20 Remeberance Fund. Special thanks to the "If I lose, the other person's ship, mods, tactics, internet connection, lag button, node crashing, or whatever was the real reason why!" (AKA IILTOPSMTICLBNCOWWTRRW) boosters of Cry Babies Anon! This notice brought to you by B.L.I.N.D.S.I.D.E. (Because the Loser Is Not Decided by Skill, but Instead Determined by Emotion), sponsors of the EFT 'Warriors' Chargeball team and the Falcon Timewaster Project. Because balance is an illusion, logic is in your head, and even if something mattered why should you care, so long as you get to fly really fast and shoot pretty lights? Oh, also; forget T20? Why don't you choke on a ***, you fat, smug little *got?
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:02:00 - [30] Originally by: Gneeznow in case you dont get it Falcons. Ruin. Solo. PvP. OR: Solo. PVP. Was. Already. Dead. -Liang

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