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Doctor Remulak	Posted - 2008.10.09 14:53:00 - [61] It's always amuses me to leave the game logged on while they sit outside a station while I'm playing Rockband or something. When I was first starting out our corp was wardecced and some idiot actually camped outside a station waiting for me to undock while I went to the shopping mall. When I got back, he was still there. I wish I had the log of the convo that ensued. It was pretty funny. I, the noob, actually felt bad for him so I gave him, a 3 year old player, a 1v1 - my Rifter (best ship I could fly) against his and I actually fought him to a tie because he couldn't break my noob setup - shield and armor rep. He did honor the 1v1 though, which in retrospect is surprising considering I made him sit outside the station for a couple of hours.
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2008.10.09 15:34:00 - [62] Edited by: Vrabac on 09/10/2008 15:36:56 Originally by: Darthoria 2) get in frigates, undock and loose our precious +1,+2 implants on instapops How is getting into frigates connected to losing implants exactly? Try fighting back, it's fun. Originally by: Sansha'Seventia Generally speaking if you are walking down the street carrying 3 walmart bags and 10 guys stopped you armed with M16's LMAO these sorts of analogies always make me pee my pants.
ScaR97731	Posted - 2008.10.10 12:28:00 - [63] I still say that the OP shouldn't let the Pirates, or wardeccing corp dictate the rules giving them control over the direction on how events go where he ends up spending much money and material on a pointless engagement with a collection of mentally challenged people. I say deny the corp the war; deny them their so-called fun. Let them eat cake. Any corp that wardecs for fun is a corp full of people with severe mental, and emotional problems. People like this should not be playing EVE.
Eschiava Q Minmatar 181st Legion	Posted - 2008.10.10 13:12:00 - [64] Edited by: Eschiava Q on 10/10/2008 13:12:49 War-deccing is part of the game. So, it seems you are saying that people who play the game to have fun are "people with severe mental, and emotional problems" and that they should not be allowed to play EVE. Brilliant!
Lucia Warbler Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.10.10 13:41:00 - [65] Originally by: Olleybear I would recommend fighting them in tech 1 crap fit cruisers. 6x tech 1 cruisers vs 6x hacs will get you at least one, or possibly two hacs. Popping their wrecks makes them take more of a loss and you know they are going to be tech II fit. If HAC pilots know what they are doing, there's no way six total noobs in a cruiser can kill even one of them. First fights all end with the new pilot musing; "if only I had remembered to launch those drones or fit better I would've..." Best option is to disband or relocate often, preferably to different empire space until attackers don't consider WD worth weekly Concord bribe.
Traidor Disloyal Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.10 14:02:00 - [66] Originally by: ScaR97731 Any corp that wardecs for fun is a corp full of people with severe mental, and emotional problems. You know me so well. No, seriously you do.
Lubomir Penev Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.10 15:42:00 - [67] Originally by: ScaR97731 I still say that the OP shouldn't let the Pirates, or wardeccing corp dictate the rules giving them control over the direction on how events go where he ends up spending much money and material on a pointless engagement with a collection of mentally challenged people. If you can't win against mentally challenged people what does that make you?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.10 20:13:00 - [68] I would say meh, jump in frigs and run to lowsec!(**** what everyone else says, ratting in lowsec in a frigate is fun) try and get them to follow you, hopefully there are some bigger fish and they get eated. or take garmons offer, I want to see garmon v 6 hacs in the next garmonation vid
Oberoonmoon Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.11 15:46:00 - [69] If a corp wants to "force" their way of gamestyle upon another corp, for example a PVP corp attacking a small industrial corp, the industrial corp should deny them the pleasure to PVP in any means possible. The worse thing you can do is to fight back and play the game how they want it to be played. Fight back and you might get wardecced several more times from the same guys. Deny them a fight, let them waste hours upon hours waiting to get you, will prop make them end the war after one week. A typical PVP player in EVE seems (yeah its a very general statment) to be a impatient player who crave action when he play. Let him waste his time and get bored and you will prop not see them in the near future again. Also dont be rude, even better, dont communicate at all with them unless they contact you first. If they contatc you, keep your replies short and polite and dont take any verbal bait they throw at you. Yeah wardec is a part of the game, so is PVP, but not all play EVE for that. For those who seek out weaker corp to fight them, they are just sad, and no true PVP player in my eyes. Reminds me of FPS players who seeks out servers were crappy players are, just to get a win.
Lubomir Penev Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.11 17:26:00 - [70] Originally by: Oberoonmoon A typical PVP player in EVE seems (yeah its a very general statment) to be a impatient player who crave action when he play. Let him waste his time and get bored and you will prop not see them in the near future again. And what if they are the patient sadistic type (and doing other things on another account anyway). $15 a month is a bit much for a station simulator no? -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/
Oberoonmoon Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.11 22:42:00 - [71] Who says Im sitting inside a station ? There are numerous of ways to avoid those who are after you Beside, there are more people who can play "I use my alt to play with instead" But yes, you might have a point, but those guys are more the rare case. (must be insane if they enjoy sitting outside a station for 2 or 3 weeks)
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.11 22:52:00 - [72] Edited by: techzer0 on 11/10/2008 22:53:17 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton or take garmons offer, I want to see garmon v 6 hacs in the next garmonation vid Didn't he do that already? Or was it 5? I hatesss garmon for the nasty nasty hatemail in my inbox from hims!! Op, bring them to lowsec, there's not enough action when I'm online for 10 minutes a day ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Lubomir Penev Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.11 23:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Oberoonmoon Who says Im sitting inside a station ? There are numerous of ways to avoid those who are after you Beside, there are more people who can play "I use my alt to play with instead" But yes, you might have a point, but those guys are more the rare case. (must be insane if they enjoy sitting outside a station for 2 or 3 weeks) Only morons station camp during an empire war, it only leads to whack a mole game. Or you do it if you don't actually want a kill. The smart empire griefer, and I used to be one before being member of a respectable 0.0 space holding alliance, you'll never see before it is too late, as in he'll we in your mission or waiting you at the gate in the system you just jumped in. Then there are lots of dumb empire griefers, but save not undocking yourself few things lead to less kills than a station camp. -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/
Gene3N	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:33:00 - [74] Edited by: Gene3N on 12/10/2008 21:33:43 The alternative to wardecs and safe sec space would be to have no concord at all. CPP has clearly made a decision that this is a space warfare game, with a resource gathering component (like starcraft was) an NOT an economic game with rick of piracy (as some people play it). Now let me say that I am pretty much a carebear in the game, BUT I understand that the role I chose is the hardest one to play - Being a non-military character in a military game. Kind of like not having a gun in CoD or Battlefield and just moving ammo around and healing others. This is not the EASY path - this is the hardest path, but CPP has done a bad job of describing this to new players so many of them assume this is the easier path. I think trade and mining skills should be much harder to train and later in the game after fight skills. That would reinforce the notion (which is true) that this is a wargame... and if you choose to play an industrial, well you are choosing a very hard role. Just my .02 from a (mostly) carebear who has been wardeced and didn't exactly enjoy it - but understood that it's part of the game. My suggestion to new corps w/o old members - Don't start 1, but start 2 or 3 corps with your alts at the same time. Then you have 1 active and 1-2 inactive corps - which are all getting older every day. If you feel you don't want to deal with a wardec, you don't have to leave the corp, change people, or wait for roles to expire, etc. All that happens is everyone in the corp logs in with an alt (yes they will be much less training) but you will still all be able to play together as a group and isn't that really what you want out of the game? Lastly - I don't think there is any shame is avoiding conflict. You didn't choose to fight a group 3X as many players with 10X the skills. They didn't choose that option either :-) They chose to fight 1/3 as many people with 1/10th the skills. So avoiding this fight actually is the rational thing to do. Hell wait 6 mo, and 6 mil skill points and wardec them back when the odds, although still in their favor, are much closer than they are now. War is the main component of this game, but don't assume you have to let others dictate the time or place of when you fight. Use strategy to put the odds in your favor - not theirs. Cheers!
Mithos Victus Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:40:00 - [75] The one thing to remember, is that money talks. For instance, my corps is still under a dec from a griefer gang, but this gang is small and amateur, and they are absolutely loaded with ISK as they've lost upwards of 500mil so far along with whatever implants were in the two we podded and they still have not retracted the dec. All it takes, is letting the right people know, there is a small upstart griefer gang, loaded with ISKies, who are ripe for plunder.
Garmon Minmatar TYR.	Posted - 2008.10.15 12:25:00 - [76] Edited by: Garmon on 15/10/2008 12:26:24 ye i joined the op's corp, after like 2 hrs of pkin, they knew my dominance over stupid little stupidheads griefers. 1 corp has canceld the wardec the other corp has lost 1/3 of their members its awesome 2 see the noobs now camping in the griefers rather than griefers camping in the noobs why would a corp with a lot of old members wardec a corp with such young players???? sickens me, they are not a honor, they are no true warrior so i showed them what a warrior should do and they cant handle it, cos they never tooked risks b4, u dont learn by pkin noobs im liking this griefing griefers thing, so if your in a noob corp and you got wardecd for no reason, mail me ingame signature locked for inappropriate language. ~EVE Community Team
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:00:00 - [77] 50mill this is all just some Garmon PR stunt
Amarr'd Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:03:00 - [78] Originally by: Father Dibbles 50mill this is all just some Garmon PR stunt Your on
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:07:00 - [79] Originally by: Amarr'd Originally by: Father Dibbles 50mill this is all just some Garmon PR stunt Your on 50mill you are a Garmon alt
Garmon Minmatar TYR.	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:08:00 - [80] WTF HOW DID U FIND OUT? signature locked for inappropriate language. ~EVE Community Team
Amarr'd Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:09:00 - [81] Originally by: Father Dibbles Originally by: Amarr'd Originally by: Father Dibbles 50mill this is all just some Garmon PR stunt Your on 50mill you are a Garmon alt 50 mill im not GOGOGO
Amarr'd Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:09:00 - [82] Originally by: Garmon WTF HOW DID U FIND OUT? STFU DONT GIVE US AWAY
CHED Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:11:00 - [83] Originally by: Garmon WTF HOW DID U FIND OUT? CONFIRMING I MAY BE GARMONS ALT I ALSO MAY NOT
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:12:00 - [84] Originally by: CHED Originally by: Garmon WTF HOW DID U FIND OUT? CONFIRMING I MAY BE GARMONS ALT I ALSO MAY NOT 50Mill you are
Bai ZongTong Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:06:00 - [85] CONFIRMING THAT KACHAK HAS A SEXY VOICE ON VENT. --- Bai ZongTong, responsible for all the lossmails in my corp.
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:41:00 - [86] Confirming that 150Mill in bets are still on table.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:42:00 - [87] Edited by: Demitria Fernir on 15/10/2008 14:41:58 CONFIRMING GARMON IS ON AN ALT-RAMPAGE. ALSO CONFIRMING I MIGHT BE GARMON'S ALT _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:46:00 - [88] Originally by: Demitria Fernir Edited by: Demitria Fernir on 15/10/2008 14:41:58 CONFIRMING GARMON IS ON AN ALT-RAMPAGE. ALSO CONFIRMING I MIGHT BE GARMON'S ALT Confirming that I will bet another 50mill on that
C7P9 Caldari TYR.	Posted - 2008.10.15 15:20:00 - [89] Confirming Garmon lured me (his alt obviously) into this GRIEFER WAR by promising Gneiss in highsec. :((((
SystemaX1	Posted - 2008.10.15 15:28:00 - [90] I find it funny how experienced corps wardeck beginner corps if there oldest players are 06 then you can tell how sad they really for wardecking 6 week or younger player corps. what you could do is find someone who doesnt care about looseing a ship like a suicider that loves useing smart bombs like me and my drake do. and offer them a certain amount to go down there and hit the XXX members with smart bombs and draw there attention away from you guys so you guys can go to another system 12 jumps away or something.

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