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CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.10.08 23:42:00 - [31] Originally by: Olleybear I know CCP doesn't get alot of thanks for doing what they do ( too many trolling idiots around drowning everyone else out ). So I'm here to simply say, Thank-You for taking the time to tell people about these issues. Thanks Olleybear. Please remember that the issue at hand is not what is or is not a hacker and their legality, it is that players are losing accounts to a variety of methods and that could potentially ruin over five years worth of gaming. I'm sure we'd all hate for that to happen to any of us. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Odhinn Vinlandii Shadows of the Dead Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.10.09 00:24:00 - [32] Originally by: Niraia Originally by: GM Nova Hackers are criminals. I really hate it when people say things like that. Hacking is breaking into someones house. Through a window, or through a wire it is the same thing. --- FreeBSD+WINE+EVE
Sensor Error Temple of the Blue Fish	Posted - 2008.10.09 00:25:00 - [33] Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: Sensor Error Originally by: Niraia Originally by: GM Nova Hackers are criminals. I really hate it when people say things like that. Why? Gaining unauthorised access to a computer is illegal, plain and simple. Technically, going round your mates and using his machine without his permission is just as illegal, but still. The point remains that hackers gain unauthorised access to computers, normally remotely. This is illegal, plain and simple, thus, they are criminals. So I'm a criminal for coding, using open source software and building/modding computers? Hacker != cracker. facepalm.jpg LOL, did you even READ my post? You know, the bit where I said ignoring the whole hacker/cracker/ white hat/ black hat/ any other name you want to stick on it? ok, let me re-write my original sentence, just for complete forest-gump types like you who are too busy getting themselves into a tiz for failing to comprehend that a word might have more meanings that what THEY think is the the "original" and "correct" meaning. The point remains that gaining unauthorised access to computers is illegal, plain and simple, thus, people who do this are criminals. Is that ok? or would you like the large print version with lots of nice pretty pictures? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2008.10.09 01:41:00 - [34] Quote: How old are you? Hackers are not criminals, if they are criminals how come they are employed by companies and militaries of all countries? I guess they want to have criminals working for them for theyÆre awesome skills and mind blowing knowledge that most can barely grasp the beginning concepts of where to begin in this job field. Yes hackers can be bad people, but hacking does not refer to one as a criminal as it is a term to describe ones hobby or profession. The profession reaps great rewards and a hefty paycheck and in the US militaries an enormous bonus to prevent them being hired by civilian companies. bad analogy, i mean spies are hired by militaries all over the world are still considered criminals when caught. Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today!!!
Alizena	Posted - 2008.10.09 02:23:00 - [35] Lets give the whole hacker/cracker thing a rest for a second. An important question was brought up, is there a way that we can change our account name if it is the same as our character's name?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.09 03:22:00 - [36] oh come on! no need to warn the people who actually send their username/pw to some random hotmail address and at the related searches on that one page with the 2 definitions.
Jullliana	Posted - 2008.10.09 06:56:00 - [37] Will you asshats stop trying to define words in this thread because it's damm irritating and completely off topic. It's not a dictionary or thesaurus thread - it's a "use common sense" and "be careful" kind of thread. Nice one GM Nova for pointing out what is sadly not obvious to some people.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.09 08:29:00 - [38] I hate having to quote myself because of CCP changing their standards of coverage of petition cases lately. I mean, seriously, double-standard much? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: GM Nova We are also told that various alliance forums have been attacked by hackers and in some cases been successful. What we have seen so far is that those players who have the same username as their characternames are prime targets, as they sometimes register on these forums with their characternames and use the same password for the forums as they would for EVE. This is an eccentric habit for some, to use the same password for everything. Since when did CCP care about out-of-TQ matters about EVE now? -
Jullliana	Posted - 2008.10.09 10:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Since when did CCP care about out-of-TQ matters about EVE now? When it affects in game stuff - using your eve user name and password for anything other than your eve account is just dumb! If you (or anyone) want to do that then fine - go ahead. CCP will take whatever money you've already paid and you will loose access to the game unless you create another account. CCP have warned everyone, in an attempt to reinforce common sense, and for that you seem to blame/chastise CCP??
Lubomir Penev Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.09 10:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Olleybear I know CCP doesn't get alot of thanks for doing what they do ( too many trolling idiots around drowning everyone else out ). They get a lot of money it should make up for it don't you think? -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.09 11:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Jullliana CCP have warned everyone, in an attempt to reinforce common sense, and for that you seem to blame/chastise CCP?? Double standards. CCP have stated since the start of EVE that they only care about ingame issues, and will not get involved in out-of-game matters that still relate to the game. What GM Nova said, whilst in good intentions I'm sure, goes against that. So they post warnings about alliance boards (that are obviously out-of-game resources) being "hacked" open just because they're related somehow to personal, player-to-TQ account security? Again, double standards. I'm not one to whistleblow, here, but if I had 1 isk for every time someone will (and they will, not if) take that completely the wrong way... -
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.09 11:07:00 - [42] Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 09/10/2008 11:07:30 doublepost -
MenanceWhite Amarr Red Light Navy	Posted - 2008.10.09 11:11:00 - [43] Originally by: GM Nova Hackers (edit; microcomputer users who attempt to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems) are criminals. You forgot to add that those that are getting hacked (microcomputer users who allows others to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems) are stupid. --- Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses Originally by: Oveur
Aramith	Posted - 2008.10.09 13:08:00 - [44] Edited by: Aramith on 09/10/2008 13:08:30 Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Double standards. CCP have stated since the start of EVE that they only care about ingame issues, and will not get involved in out-of-game matters that still relate to the game. What GM Nova said, whilst in good intentions I'm sure, goes against that. So they post warnings about alliance boards (that are obviously out-of-game resources) being "hacked" open just because they're related somehow to personal, player-to-TQ account security? Again, double standards. I'm not one to whistleblow, here, but if I had 1 isk for every time someone will (and they will, not if) take that completely the wrong way... its not double standards. Its a warning that there are apparently people that already do this (that is sign up for corp or alliance forums with the same username and password as their TQ log-in) and these people are petitioning it. I imagine the petition reads something like "My alliance forums got hacked last week and now i think my in game account has been hacked too because my isk and ships are all trashed/gone/missing." In these cases there is not a whole lot the GM's can do so they are putting out the warning that we can not do much if you do something stupid like use the same login information for both your eve account and your corp/alliance forum account.
Adam Slysphere	Posted - 2008.10.09 16:32:00 - [45] Edited by: Adam Slysphere on 09/10/2008 16:36:01 Originally by: Andrue Edited by: Andrue on 08/10/2008 20:16:57 Originally by: Taedrin Originally by: armas In essence, don't be stupid. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. I believe there was a case when an advertisement on Thottbot contained a keylogger, infecting all Internet Explorer users who happened to see that advertisement (hint - use Firefox, Google Chromium, Opera, or some other browser). My brother also got his account hacked once, and he claimed that he never downloaded anything or shared his account info at all. Hint:Run XP as a limited user. That way applications can't install behnd your back. Sadly it can be a bit of a PITA sometimes so better yet... ..upgrade to Vista. That way you can log in as an adminstrator but the rights remain inactive until you give Vista permission to activate them. As an added bonus... ..IE7 (and presumably IE8) offer a special protected mode under Vista. That makes them more secure than any other browser. There are apparently tweaks you can apply to leverage this feature for Firefox but there are compatibility issues. Or better yet, buy a Mac and never worry about security issues again!
Adam Slysphere	Posted - 2008.10.09 16:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Niraia Originally by: GM Nova Hackers are criminals. I really hate it when people say things like that. I really hate it when old school people argue the definition of "hackers". The definition changed. It happens. Adapt or die.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.10.10 07:41:00 - [47] Originally by: ArmyOfMe meh, if they buy isk they deserve to be hacked imo Or you buy isk from those who does not require your logins? "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
MailDeadDrop Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.10.10 15:26:00 - [48] Quoting myself as I did not see an answer from CCP even though they did comment in the thread. Originally by: MailDeadDrop Originally by: GM Nova What we have seen so far is that those players who have the same username as their characternames are prime targets I understand that one cannot change their character name, but for those players who have used the same name for the account, would it be possible for them to change their account name? (Short of paying US$60 for 3x character transfers from the existing account to a new account they create.) MDD Jump Clones: 8M and NO corp switching

GM Guard	Posted - 2008.10.10 16:06:00 - [49] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Double standards. CCP have stated since the start of EVE that they only care about ingame issues, and will not get involved in out-of-game matters that still relate to the game. What GM Nova said, whilst in good intentions I'm sure, goes against that. So they post warnings about alliance boards (that are obviously out-of-game resources) being "hacked" open just because they're related somehow to personal, player-to-TQ account security? Again, double standards. I'm not one to whistleblow, here, but if I had 1 isk for every time someone will (and they will, not if) take that completely the wrong way... I just want to get a slight correction in. While it is true that generally can't control things that fall outside our area of effect or take direct responsibility for all of them, we have never said we don't care about them. We may not always have the power to fix everything that goes wrong outside our jurisdiction but we are eager to provide insight and good advice to help players steer away from danger when possible.


GM Guard	Posted - 2008.10.10 16:09:00 - [50] And to adress the question about changing your username. Currently it is not possible and would take some changes to our basic systems. Your best measure against unauthorized account hacking is to make sure your password is not too simple or obvious, that it's only used for EVE, and that you change it once in a while.

Lady Galadriel Thief Hunters of Orion's Alliance Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2008.10.10 18:33:00 - [51] share your password = you get whats coming to you..
MailDeadDrop Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.10.10 19:52:00 - [52] Originally by: GM Guard And to adress the question about changing your username. Currently it is not possible and would take some changes to our basic systems. Guard, thanks for replying. Just to be 100% clear, I'm asking about changing the account name, not the character name. (I understand why the latter would be a nightmare.) I am slightly perturbed that CCP has mechanisms in place to transfer characters between accounts, but does not have a mechanism to (easily) change account names. MDD Jump Clones: 8M and NO corp switching
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.10.11 00:01:00 - [53] Originally by: GM Nova Hackers You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Good advice, otherwise. It's always a good idea to run/look at anything suspicious in a virtual machine if you must do it at all. It's an even better idea to set aside a computer for gaming and use it for nothing else.
Zey Nadar Gallente Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:12:00 - [54] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 11/10/2008 00:13:13 Originally by: GM Nova Hackers You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. And you might stop for a moment to think who exactly decides what words mean.
Ander Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:52:00 - [55] the p0rn must flow EVE PIRATE
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:58:00 - [56] Originally by: GM Nova So, please, please, please, do NOT share your account with anyone at all, and if you have done so, change your password at once. Skill queue? -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.10.13 05:55:00 - [57] Originally by: gfldex Originally by: GM Nova So, please, please, please, do NOT share your account with anyone at all, and if you have done so, change your password at once. Skill queue? This for one. Stop being stupid CCP and give us Skill queue for TWO skills or make it that once your skill reaches lvl5, it will then stop training because those stupid 1-3 and sometimes even 4 needs constant watching. "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Kaskamar	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:45:00 - [58] hi what about if you guys as ccp implemented stuff like this Digipass se my shop site http://eve.frimurer.net
Cryten Jones Gallente Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.16 08:30:00 - [59] How about allowing us to use digital certificates to authenticate? -CJ Originally by: Nogap toosmall and your understanding of probability is on par with a radish.
sliver 0xD exiles. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2008.10.17 14:03:00 - [60] Edited by: sliver 0xD on 17/10/2008 14:03:03 Originally by: Odhinn Vinlandii Originally by: Niraia Originally by: GM Nova Hackers are criminals. I really hate it when people say things like that. Hacking is breaking into someones house. Through a window, or through a wire it is the same thing. --- FreeBSD+WINE+EVE search the meaning of hacking again please. everyone dumber then a hacker usaly considers the hacker to be a criminal. but what you should keep in mind that tuneing your car is also hacking. nobody intended your car to be changed when they designed it. and i bet they dont like it. but it is within the boundries of posiblity, there for you can. the same goes with the internet, code and programs. you alter, change and influence programs without any boundries. technoligy is limitless. hacking is changeing something to make it beter. driveing your car into the bank front door is something else. back to topic, i find it stupid that ccp is anti account thieft (lets call it that way), where thieft of a item is not considered a offence at all. iam pritty down to basic with my toughts but when i steal an account what is the diference of me stealing a item. iam stealing something one way or another. where is the difrence. both the account or the item are virtual items and have no value in the real world. no more value the the pictures you have on your desktop of your loved ones. that are - like the items and accounts in eve - only the recorded 1's and 0's in time. and have no more value in the real world then the numbers on the bank (at icesave :P ). eventualy we have nothing of value and why would ccp act on one and dismiss the other. what iam trying to say and what it comes down to is why fight thieft when you allow and support thieft. you create a world where you accept thieft and then you try to fight thieft becouse you find it unfair. hypocrite --- Somebody needs a hug!

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