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Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.30 22:50:00 - [1] - Quote I'm personally looking forward to the burning of Jita, its like seeing Wall Street on fire... however this may have many repercussions to ALL GANKERS, and it should Lets be honest, Sec Status has a HUGE flaw, as long as you're in a pod you can go where ever you want, then you have your alt/friend orca your ships to you and its business as usual Pirates/Gankers give little to no damn about sec status, cause it doesn't really effect them They can gank Lose a fail fit dessie Have the alt/friend collect the loot Take a sec status loss (Which doesn't matter since they can pod around where ever they want and be left alone) Repeat until bored In essence the penalties are null and void for pirates that know they can avoid the the Sec status penalty altogether, and unless someone has a very fast locking ship ready to scram the fleeing pods (or cares to do it) that pirate/gankers just waits out the 15 minute aggression timer and repeat (not like hes gonna get scanned down in a pod) The Mittani said that he is gonna test CCP and see if they try to interfere, well NO that won't happen BUT just like insurance payouts for getting Concorded there are a variety of ways to do something that makes sense and not be accused of "killing EVE 1) Make it so outlaw pods get instant locked by anyone 2) Make outlaw pods light up like cynos would on scanners so that its effortless to find them (Bounties might actually matter again) 3) Just like neutral RRs, make the Orca that brought the ships get criminally flagged too 4) Have a 10-15 second delay for outlaws to dock at stations (Plenty of time to get a lock) 5)Keep you from setting up clones in HS 6) Instead of a random "You are a outlaw you aren't allowed message" it would say "Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again The way it is now, as long as you have a clean alt, you are never denied into HS and can buy what you need which nullifies the penalty a outlaw gets in regards to HS. This however would make being a outlaw a little more riskier and would make sense if you look at it from a sandbox/game mechanic point of view This doesn't stop gankers in anyway, you can gank to your hearts content, but now there are actual risk involved... risk that the players dictate instead and not CCP GOONS ATTACK FORMATION: FLAME
Chokichi Ozuwara Lucky Dragon Convenience 65	Posted - 2012.03.30 22:53:00 - [2] - Quote The real money will be in attacking the Orcas. lol Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:11:00 - [3] - Quote If a gank happens after the Orca docks, the docking orca should be ejected back out of the station Again, if someone wants to gank, be my guest, but it should a gank worth losing a Orca
Famble Three's a Crowd 311	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:11:00 - [4] - Quote Started reading Goon post #417. Fell asleep, woke up, posted this. If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention.
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:14:00 - [5] - Quote Famble wrote: Started reading Goon post #417. Fell asleep, woke up, posted this. If more addressing the ganking issue as a whole and saying Goons Jita Burning would probably make CCP pay attention to the whole ganking thing and balance it out
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 306	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:14:00 - [6] - Quote Of course these hypothetical changes you're fapping about would be a tremendous inconvenience to us once we leave to go back to the land of milk and Dread Guristas rats.
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:17:00 - [7] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Of course these hypothetical changes you're fapping about would be a tremendous inconvenience to us once we leave to go back to the land of milk and Dread Guristas rats. Ren Oren wrote: Famble wrote: Started reading Goon post #417. Fell asleep, woke up, posted this. If more addressing the ganking issue as a whole and saying Goons Jita Burning would probably make CCP pay attention to the whole ganking thing and balance it out Guess not having a FC tell you what to do kept you from reading this
M5 Tuttle The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK 39	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:23:00 - [8] - Quote What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting.
Chevy Hakoke Shockwave Innovations Stellar Economy Experts 40	Posted - 2012.03.30 23:38:00 - [9] - Quote So this makes gankers actually have to weight risk and reward... hmmm not a bad idea at all Hell it creates content, curbs ganks (which are a bit out of control now), and best of all doesn't stop anyone from doing what they did before. Love when the playing field get evened EDIT: Make it so that we can buy/sell kill rights and we have a deal
Mathias Hex Hillcrest Armaments 19	Posted - 2012.03.31 01:15:00 - [10] - Quote Good ideas! I might actually want to be a pirate if there was risk in it. Being a pirate truly sounds Really Lame as it is. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.

Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 375	Posted - 2012.03.31 01:18:00 - [11] - Quote They should just make you all bloody invulnerable and be done with it. No possible way to exploit ever. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Xander Riggs The Scope Gallente Federation 106	Posted - 2012.03.31 01:22:00 - [12] - Quote This game needs more ganking, not less. High secuity has gotten far too complacent. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.03.31 02:10:00 - [13] - Quote Xander Riggs wrote: This game needs more ganking, not less. High secuity has gotten far too complacent. Again this doesn't stop gankers from ganking, just levels the playing field.... unless you're afraid of things shooting back at you Being a eve miner isn't very rewarding, and seeing them get ganked with no risk (yes if you don't care about sec status and can freely go where you want in a pod, only to jump in a orca dropped ship later its no risk) makes me wonder how they come back for more (A lot don't). However I can understand why the null boys don't want this changed, they like unfair advantages (Hence the reason why most of your kills come from blobs/gate camps/or overwhelming numbers) so having the playing field evened a little (or at least giving the person you shot a chance to respond) is scary
Jack Parr University of Caille Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.03.31 02:25:00 - [14] - Quote Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved. "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average goon." -á -á-á - The Mittani
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 316	Posted - 2012.03.31 02:27:00 - [15] - Quote Jack Parr wrote: Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved. I think a much better solution for -10 players is to bill them for a year and serve bans from game.
Wolf Kruol Capsuleer Legions Of New Eden GREATER ITAMO MAFIA 5	Posted - 2012.03.31 02:39:00 - [16] - Quote Another whiner about gankers? Hate to break it for you ganking is part of eve. I'm not part of goons but I can't wait for there eve war. I'm looking forward to it. Many free kills I like free stuff. Oh goonies if you get bored gimi your stuff...
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.03.31 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote Wolf Kruol wrote: Another whiner about gankers? Hate to break it for you ganking is part of eve. I'm not part of goons but I can't wait for there eve war. I'm looking forward to it. Many free kills I like free stuff. Oh goonies if you get bored gimi your stuff... No whining, as I said many times gank you your hearts content, but there should be a risk to ganking; a way for players "return the favor"... I know you're a nullbear (feeling scared without your blob and FC) and only like unfair fights... but this gives a more level playing field while allow the players to govern themselves According to this: http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/30/prime-intel-non-garmonation-exploits/ CCP is getting rid of the Orca pirate trick all together (congratulations gankers) This idea would have at least allowed you to do that still, except that it would allow the players to blow up Orcas And the Boomerang Maneuver is gone too, so I guess my advice is to keep ganking till its taken out completely, then you can ***** about how EVE isn't eve anymore and how everyone will quit even though ganking is probably responsible for the most rage-quits/unsubs
Grumpy Owly 536	Posted - 2012.03.31 03:03:00 - [18] - Quote For PvP and like to encourage more of it? Want to validate a potential Career path in EvE with new income potential that is ideally designed as simply a transferance of ISK from one pilot to another? Actually like situations where ships shoot back and "really" improve your KB resume? You agree that pilots should adapt to challenging situations in EvE where acceptance of risk is an everyday seperator of those getting ahead on the curve? Or simply want to make EvE less boring? Support: Bounty Hunting for CSM7. Bounty Hunting for CSM7 It's just criminal - Smuggling
Ren Oren Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.03.31 03:17:00 - [19] - Quote Ganker Tears, best tears https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89242&find=unread Mad cause you can't shoot people who can't defend themselves? Just go to lowsec tough guys
Serethena Intoxia Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:54:00 - [20] - Quote @ OP Who ganked your Hulk?

Nirnias Stirrum Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD. 86	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:57:00 - [21] - Quote Show me on the doll where the bad ganker touched you. Ren Oren wrote: 1) Make it so outlaw pods get instant locked by anyone Yeh lets change game mechanics just cause you lost a hulk. Ren Oren wrote: 2) Make outlaw pods light up like cynos would on scanners so that its effortless to find them (Bounties might actually matter again) Yeh, cause obviously you dont know how to use probes or read a name on your scanner. Ren Oren wrote: 3) Just like neutral RRs, make the Orca that brought the ships get criminally flagged too Yeh again lets change game mechanics cause someone else might be able to benefit from you fail fitting your hulk. Ren Oren wrote: 4) Have a 10-15 second delay for outlaws to dock at stations (Plenty of time to get a lock) Apposed to the already 15 second delay they have for any session change? Might want to learn more about the game. Ren Oren wrote: 5)Keep you from setting up clones in HS Awww wouldnt want you to feel unsafe in high sec space. And appearently you can only quote 5 things in a post so heres the other ones: 6) Concord should be able to kill -10 pods since this shows the player gives no damns Fit a sebo and a point and do it yourself, lazy git. 7) Instead of a random "You are a outlaw you aren't allowed message" it would say "Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again So basicly you dont want to right click and show info cause again your lazy?
BuckStrider Hardcore p0wnography 51	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:20:00 - [22] - Quote M5 Tuttle wrote: What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting. What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting. It still won't get a discount on next months rent.
Serge Bastana GWA Corp 352	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:26:00 - [23] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Jack Parr wrote: Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved. I think a much better solution for -10 players is to bill them for a year and serve bans from game. Only if they do the same every time a miner whines about not being able to tank his hulk and mine efficiently, for twice as much and twice as long. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...
Alexandra Delarge The Korova 47	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:48:00 - [24] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: 1) Make it so outlaw pods get instant locked by anyone 2) Make outlaw pods light up like cynos would on scanners so that its effortless to find them (Bounties might actually matter again) 3) Just like neutral RRs, make the Orca that brought the ships get criminally flagged too 4) Have a 10-15 second delay for outlaws to dock at stations (Plenty of time to get a lock) 5)Keep you from setting up clones in HS 6) Concord should be able to kill -10 pods since this shows the player gives no damns 7) Instead of a random "You are a outlaw you aren't allowed message" it would say "Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again Someone is angry at their hulk loss.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6212	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:51:00 - [25] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Its more addressing the ganking issue as a whole What issues? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:55:00 - [26] - Quote anyone can kill -10s in pods without CONCORD intervention AND get a bounty from CONCORD equal to the bounty (if any) in the player in the pod Ive never lost a Hulk, my main doesnt even tank them, its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners. If anyone in the Miner's fleet attacks the ganker first GUESS WHAT HAPPENS lol Serge Bastana wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: Jack Parr wrote: Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved. I think a much better solution for -10 players is to bill them for a year and serve bans from game. Only if they do the same every time a miner whines about not being able to tank his hulk and mine efficiently, for twice as much and twice as long. ok I agree I dont whine about the tank on the hulk anyways, I never use it Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6212	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:59:00 - [27] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners. Good thing that they aren't, then. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:01:00 - [28] - Quote Tippia wrote: Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners. Good thing that they aren't, then. what game are you playing? ah its Tippia, given that youll NEVER EVER be swayed from your point, Ill bow out. I have better things than to argue with a full teacup Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6212	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:06:00 - [29] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: what game are you playing? EVE online, where gankers are offered the same protection as everyone else unless they go below -5 sec status in their pursuit of that activity, at which point they're afforded less. GÇ£Equal or lessGÇ¥ does not equate to GÇ£moreGÇ¥. What you're saying is completely contrary to reality. The only way for your claim to be true would be if the miners were -5s themselves, in which case they are gankers, so they're protected less than everyone else per the above rules. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 617	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:17:00 - [30] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Ganker Tears, best tears https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89242&find=unread Mad cause you can't shoot people who can't defend themselves? Just go to lowsec tough guys Sounds like someone lost a spaceship. I have a feeling you will loose more. Fail tear troll 0/10 Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items

madsamo HyberNation. 4	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:18:00 - [31] - Quote This would just break eve. Srsly tho if you have this much of a problem against gankers use a battlehulk or something
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 486	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:26:00 - [32] - Quote Killing an outlaw pod requires that YOU take a huge sec status hit, which means your plan is terribad. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1562	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:34:00 - [33] - Quote Nice RAEG!!!! face you got going on there. Very nice.. very nice! -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Rico Minali Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 556	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:58:00 - [34] - Quote BuckStrider wrote: M5 Tuttle wrote: What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting. What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting. It still won't get a discount on next months rent. I really did actually laugh at this. Do people really believe the cfc have renters and pets? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 776	Posted - 2012.04.20 18:02:00 - [35] - Quote Hulk is angry.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 585	Posted - 2012.04.20 18:07:00 - [36] - Quote You left out "Ganker pays the insurance payout for the victim's ship". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Alua Oresson Demon-War-Lords BLACK-MARK 109	Posted - 2012.04.20 18:09:00 - [37] - Quote Rico Minali wrote: BuckStrider wrote: M5 Tuttle wrote: What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting. What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting. It still won't get a discount on next months rent. I really did actually laugh at this. Do people really believe the cfc have renters and pets? Yes, yes they do. They can't conceive of the fact that we don't actually pay rent to anyone. http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Brisco County The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK 35	Posted - 2012.04.20 18:31:00 - [38] - Quote There is already a counter to suicide ganking. It's called fitting a tank. I'm looking at a hulk fit right now that has 25k EHP. A Tornado with all skills @ 5 and T2 guns does about 5k volley. Nobody is going to bring out 5 tornados to gank one hulk Pro-tip: The majority of your hulk's hit points are in the hull. Use one of these things: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Damage_Control_I The hulk's strength is in it's shield resistances and CPU. It's weakness is grid. Fit shield resistance mods to increase that strength. Use shield extender rigs to overcome the fact that you don't have the grid to fit medium shield extender modules [Hulk, New Setup 1] Co-Processor II Damage Control II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 27k EHP. The run of the mill tornado gank isn't going to take you down unless there is more than 2 of them, which isn't likely to happen unless you've been designated a special target. Honestly, if my ship scanning alt saw a fit like this, I would pass it by.
Ren Oren Shockwave Innovations Stellar Economy Experts 27	Posted - 2012.04.20 19:58:00 - [39] - Quote Well since this post CCP has put in a 15 minute timer which means after a gank, you have to find something else to do for 15 minutes Also no I don't have a Hulk, nor do mine, but its funny how even on "leet pvp" toons you always seen Mining 4 or some kind of indy skill which mean most people were mining at least a little when they started out, pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate getting curb stomped just starting out especially to guys that didn't even want to declare war first. Ganking is probably the biggest in game activity that causes people to ragequit/unsub then the same people that were doing all the ganking will be the SAME ONES that say "EVE is dying!"
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 336	Posted - 2012.04.20 20:13:00 - [40] - Quote I think ganking keeps people who can't handle EVE out. That is a good thing and should be encouraged. Things are only impossible until they are not.

Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1562	Posted - 2012.04.20 20:25:00 - [41] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Well since this post CCP has put in a 15 minute timer which means after a gank, you have to find something else to do for 15 minutes Also no I don't have a Hulk, nor do mine, but its funny how even on "leet pvp" toons you always seen Mining 4 or some kind of indy skill which mean most people were mining at least a little when they started out, pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate getting curb stomped just starting out especially to guys that didn't even want to declare war first. Ganking is probably the biggest in game activity that causes people to ragequit/unsub then the same people that were doing all the ganking will be the SAME ONES that say "EVE is dying!" Most characters before late 2010/early 2011 came with Mining 4 or so. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 429	Posted - 2012.04.20 20:57:00 - [42] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Well since this post CCP has put in a 15 minute timer which means after a gank, you have to find something else to do for 15 minutes Also no I don't have a Hulk, nor do mine, but its funny how even on "leet pvp" toons you always seen Mining 4 or some kind of indy skill which mean most people were mining at least a little when they started out, pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate getting curb stomped just starting out especially to guys that didn't even want to declare war first. Ganking is probably the biggest in game activity that causes people to ragequit/unsub then the same people that were doing all the ganking will be the SAME ONES that say "EVE is dying!" Our newbies use salvaging in that slot. Depending on various things, some rifters and thrashers have a salvager I equipped. We gotta get something out of all those Tengus and Abaddons we kill. Or supercapitals~ But mining is becoming good again, still silly to put it on the main that you might move around and so on, thus alts. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Kazacy BACKFIRE Squad S O L A R I S 20	Posted - 2012.04.20 21:24:00 - [43] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: I think ganking keeps people who can't handle EVE out. That is a good thing and should be encouraged. this.
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2012.04.20 22:53:00 - [44] - Quote Ganking has been around for almost since Eve was born, which was about 9 years ago. What makes you think CCP is going to just change their minds about it now especially when their gamemasters allow it to this day for as long as you lose your ship? They are not going to change it at all as destruction is the lifeblood of our economy. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 429	Posted - 2012.04.20 23:15:00 - [45] - Quote In an age of ships with alpha it would be interesting to see what they can do. I suppose, an INSTANT concord warping in and remote repping the party being attacked would save, say a freighter since a single tornado cant kill it. Imagine, in the 0.05s between the first and the last tornado firing, CONCORD sweeps in and reps the freighter for 1million shield, armor and hull. Success! Hulks and the like probably would still have problems though. Maybe the next move would be invulnerability. Balanced Invulnerability Field IIs? What about: CONCORD Guaranteed Invulnerability Field II (works only in highsec) Made purely from highsec-obtainable minerals and some highsec incursion drops, of course. Wouldn't want to rely on those evil nullseccers or moons or anything like that. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Aurelius Valentius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2012.04.20 23:44:00 - [46] - Quote To all the Gankers out there listening to this forum thread the following is for you... ... the dog has hiccups, the dog has hiccups... ...the chicken is in a bikini, the chicken is in a bikini... ...G. Bush is a hampster, repeat G. Bush is a hampster.... That is all. Armed forces radio music resumes ...and Pinning/Toggle must be restored (paraphrase of Cicero).
Ris Dnalor Black Rebel Rifter Club 284	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:29:00 - [47] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: "Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again and anyone that fails to collect the bounty when ordered, is fined 1m isk for insubordination! ...
Nephilius Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 340	Posted - 2012.04.21 03:18:00 - [48] - Quote Remember kids, Eve is a game of consequences. Unless you're a ganker, then you just get a couple slaps on the hand and a wink. I love flying titans in Jita, setting bubbles in Rens,-áor firing off bombs from my stealth bomber-áin Dodixie!-á Just think, if Eve wasn't a sandbox, none of this would be possible!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6216	Posted - 2012.04.21 03:21:00 - [49] - Quote Nephilius wrote: Remember kids, Eve is a game of consequences. Unless you're a ganker, then you just get a couple slaps on the hand and a wink. It's hardly the game's fault if people decide to void the consequences of other players. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 639	Posted - 2012.04.21 03:55:00 - [50] - Quote I heartily endorse this product. (Add to it, all stations refuse entry to criminals, and you've got a winner.) Tippia wrote: It's hardly the game's fault if people decide to void the consequences of other players. It's indeed the game's fault when it allows itself to be circumvented. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á

Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 222	Posted - 2012.04.21 04:21:00 - [51] - Quote The irony of this debate, All the leetster PvP people never pointed out, the Hulk actually has more tank than a dps fit HAC. Of course who uses HAC's?
Wolf Kruol Capsuleer Legions Of New Eden GREATER ITAMO MAFIA 7	Posted - 2012.04.21 06:50:00 - [52] - Quote I hate to break it to you OP. Risk was always there.. Gankers don't care about risk. For CCP to add new features to concord will only make it more chalenging for us. Not the reverse. If Goons **** highsec. I'll be there for the free kills. and a few ganks of my own if the oppertunity strikes. I still think concord should be removed. If eve is to be a true sandbox type game.. Get rid of the police. Let players defend themselves.. Strong live.. Weak die.. Hear this ccp? Too many wow like games out there.. Eve should be true to the sandbox concept.
baltec1 1123	Posted - 2012.04.21 07:10:00 - [53] - Quote Remove insurance payouts for gankers! That will stop them!
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 434	Posted - 2012.04.21 07:15:00 - [54] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Remove insurance payouts for gankers! That will stop them! New and refreshing idea/ Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 228	Posted - 2012.04.21 07:17:00 - [55] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Remove insurance payouts for gankers! That will stop them! I can confirm that this is definitely not a fix that is already in game. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain!
baltec1 1123	Posted - 2012.04.21 07:19:00 - [56] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: baltec1 wrote: Remove insurance payouts for gankers! That will stop them! I can confirm that this is definitely not a fix that is already in game. Its totally going to work... ..oh wai...


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