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Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:36:00 -
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The pubbie-swarm and the future of EVE
The head of marketing for CCP pointed out in his presentation at this yearGÇÖs EVE Fanfest that Goonswarm has been responsible for some of the best player-created content and stories in EVE Online. In my opinion this is absolutely true and reading about the Goonswarm/BoB conflict was what originally got me interested in EVE Online.
I was not present when Goons first came to EVE. That happened before my time in-game. While I do not have first hand knowledge of the beginnings of Goonswarm, I enjoy reading of their past exploits. Goonswarm came into the game to ruin GÇ£yourGÇ¥ game. They set out to gank, grief and scam their way to becoming EVEGÇÖs boogey-men. They set their sights on Band of Brothers, a symbol of the EVE GÇ£establishmentGÇ¥ and waged a guerilla war using insurgent tactics, espionage and betrayal to bring down their foe. Goonswarm quickly became the perfect comic-book style villains for the EVE universe, thriving on mayhem and misery, and almost universally feared and hated.
Having been away from the game for more than a year I was anxiously awaiting the Goonswarm presentation at this yearGÇÖs fanfest. I was waiting to hear what deliciously evil plots, what dastardly deeds the Goons had been up to lately.
IGÇÖm sure almost everyone in the gaming universe has seen the presentation by now, but let me quickly summarize: They blew up some miners, and received angry mails. They scammed some guys and received angry mails. They ganked a depressed ice-miner and received an angry mail. Actually that mail was more sad than angry.
Huh. ThatGÇÖs what the Goons had to brag about for the past year?
Actually, no it wasnGÇÖt. The Goons had gotten their CEO elected to the chairman position of the CSM for the second year in a row. The Mittani was elected in an unprecedented landslide. He had the ear of CCP and was the spokesman for the EVE players. All the power and influence a group of players could ask for was all concentrated in the hands of Goonswarm! Now that is an accomplishment.
As we all know, that only lasted a couple days. For only a precious few moments, Goonswarm got to gloat on the forums and bask in the knowledge that their leader was the most influential player in all of EVE. I do not wish to debate the seriousness (or lack thereof) of The MittaniGÇÖs blunder. It should have been obvious to anyone who has ever watched the evening news that politicians, especially controversial politicians, shouldnGÇÖt show up to public events soaked in booze and overflowing with hubris. The Mittani has proven that this holds true for internet spaceship politicians as well.
Their leader dethroned, and some would say disgraced, I braced myself for the Goon response. I did not have to wait long. The Goons, in all of their fury and indignation GǪ are going to grief traders in Jita GǪ in a month.
Really? That's the plan? Where did this pubbie-swarm come from? What happened to the Goons?
Having been defeated in the meta-game in spectacular fashion by a trolling ice-miner, The MittaniGÇÖs big idea is griefing in Jita. How original. It would be perfect if every half-witted high-sec scrub-pirate in the game hadnGÇÖt been doing this for years and years. Someone please tell me this is some kind of head-fake troll to mask their intention of doing something interesting.
This is not Goonswarm. This is not the Goonswarm that defeated Band of Brothers. This is not the Goonswarm that has created the best stories in EVE. That Goonswarm would not be badposting all over various forums and twitter whining and crying and mewling. That Goonswarm would not be threatening mayhem for some time in the future, you know GǪ after they get ready. This pubbie-swarm is no longer the rebels they once were fighting against the EVE GǣEstablishment.Gǥ They have become what they once fought to tear down. This pubbie-swarm has become bloated and weak. This is a sad day for EVE Online.
And yet in EVE, as in life, history marches on. A new chapter is about to begin in EVE Online. I wonder who will write it? The pubbie-swarm has many enemies. Ancient enemies from wars past, newer enemies from recent wars and perhaps even rivals within the CFC, they all smell blood in the water. They are all wondering if it is their turn to be at the top. They sense that what was once Goonswarm is but a shell of its former self.
CCP could not have picked a better time for a war-themed expansion, as I feel a great war will soon be upon us all. I wonder who will come out on top? Will they be heroes or villains? Who is going to rise up and lead us all into the next era of EVE history? Will you be a part of it?
Null-secGÇÖers GǪ carebears GǪ industrialists GǪ pirates GǪ wormholers GǪ I call on you all to pick a side and mount up. EVE is going to war and I, for one, want to be able to say GÇ£I was there.GÇ¥
Disclaimer: Yes, I am posting on an NPC Corp alt. This is because I canGÇÖt be arsed to deal with idiotic, whiney teenagers in-game and I really donGÇÖt care in the slightest what any of you think about alts. So rest assured that if anyone feels the need to point out this fact-- I will be appropriately impressed with your Sherlock Holmes-esqe ability to deduce obvious things.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:37:00 -
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goons are the definition of pubbie, discuss |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:41:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:
I was not present when Goons first came to EVE. That happened before my time in-game. While I do not have first hand knowledge of the beginnings of Goonswarm, I enjoy reading of their past exploits. Goonswarm came into the game to ruin GÇ£yourGÇ¥ game.
Actually Goonswarm came into the game to be the libertarian experiment of a very fat law student, haha Remedial.
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Disclaimer: Yes, I am posting on an NPC Corp alt. This is because I canGÇÖt be arsed to deal with idiotic, whiney teenagers in-game and I really donGÇÖt care in the slightest what any of you think about alts.
And suddenly you're irrelevant. |
Madlof Chev
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:54:00 -
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The CFC are burning Tenal, sorry to disappoint your ~expectations~. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:39:00 -
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Tell me more about how CFC is about to turn on allies.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:40:00 -
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Sid Hudgens
Security Status 0.0
University of Caille [UC]
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(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:40:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Tell me more about how CFC is about to turn on allies.
Pets are always the last to know.....
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:42:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Tell me more about how CFC is about to turn on allies. Pets are always the last to know.....
Tell me more how the pets that are uprising will be the last to know about it.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:44:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:goons are the definition of pubbie, discuss
tyvm for the translation, the wall is intense! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:25:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Tell me more about how CFC is about to turn on allies. Pets are always the last to know..... Tell me more how the pets that are uprising will be the last to know about it.
After going though all the effort to hurt SMA and the big fight we're "massively losing" vs ~elite pvp~, we're going to kill pets....
... well luckily for us we don't have pets. We do have allies though, which, I know, some people in BoB 4.0 might not understand.
And you don't "get" goons. The point is being so serious business is not goon. Blowing things up isn't it either, though we love that. There's a reason some 1-day newbie led a rifer fleet around tenal and irc space and it certainly isn't because we're all dead serious about our k/d ratio.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Tokclik
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Tell me more about how CFC is about to turn on allies. Pets are always the last to know..... Tell me more how the pets that are uprising will be the last to know about it. There's a reason some 1-day newbie led a rifer fleet around tenal and irc space and it certainly isn't because we're all dead serious about our k/d ratio.
Khurem CSM8! |
Trading Unknown
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:43:00 -
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Quote:Disclaimer: Yes, I am posting on an NPC Corp alt. This is because I canGÇÖt be arsed to deal with idiotic, whiney teenagers in-game and I really donGÇÖt care in the slightest what any of you think about alts. So rest assured that if anyone feels the need to point out this fact-- I will be appropriately impressed with your Sherlock Holmes-esqe ability to deduce obvious things.
Lady Spank wrote:Sid Hudgens
Security Status 0.0
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Aw man, he called you.
You get something for that, right?
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Right? |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.31 02:28:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:The pubbie-swarm and the future of EVE
The head of marketing for CCP pointed out in his presentation at this yearGÇÖs EVE Fanfest that Goonswarm has been responsible for some of the best player-created content and stories in EVE Online. In my opinion this is absolutely true and reading about the Goonswarm/BoB conflict was what originally got me interested in EVE Online.
I was not present when Goons first came to EVE. That happened before my time in-game. While I do not have first hand knowledge of the beginnings of Goonswarm, I enjoy reading of their past exploits. Goonswarm came into the game to ruin GÇ£yourGÇ¥ game. They set out to gank, grief and scam their way to becoming EVEGÇÖs boogey-men. They set their sights on Band of Brothers, a symbol of the EVE GÇ£establishmentGÇ¥ and waged a guerilla war using insurgent tactics, espionage and betrayal to bring down their foe. Goonswarm quickly became the perfect comic-book style villains for the EVE universe, thriving on mayhem and misery, and almost universally feared and hated.
I kinid of wish that some of the exploits of pre-goon and bob entry into the game were more accessable.. I guess if they are still around old timers could share more in EVE is real.. but so far.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.03.31 03:08:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Sid Hudgens
Security Status 0.0
University of Caille [UC]
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Not emptyquotin'
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:25:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Sid Hudgens
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I am so proud of you. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:47:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:The Goons had gotten their CEO elected to the chairman position of the CSM for the second year in a row. The Mittani was elected in an unprecedented landslide. He had the ear of CCP and was the spokesman for the EVE players. All the power and influence a group of players could ask for was all concentrated in the hands of Goonswarm! Now that is an accomplishment.
As we all know, that only lasted a couple days. For only a precious few moments, Goonswarm got to gloat on the forums and bask in the knowledge that their leader was the most influential player in all of EVE.
He was the spokesman for SOME of the Eve Players.
He IS STILL the most influential player in all of EVE.
If Eve doesn't survive these recent events, he'll definitely be known as the most influential player in the history Eve as 'The guy who killed Eve'. |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:53:00 -
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Why the hell are they even giving a month warning?? Youd think theyd keep it all internal and hush hush to get as many people as possible and do as much damage as they could.
Why the hell warn people ahead of time?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Raven Ether
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:54:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:
Disclaimer: Yes, I am posting on an NPC Corp alt. This is because I canGÇÖt be arsed to deal with idiotic, whiney adult humans with a ******** brain in-game and I really donGÇÖt care in the slightest what any of you think about alts. So rest assured that if anyone feels the need to point out this fact-- I will be appropriately impressed with your Sherlock Holmes-esqe ability to deduce obvious things.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:03:00 -
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Quote:Goonswarm came into the game to ruin GÇ£yourGÇ¥ game. They set out to gank, grief and scam their way to becoming EVEGÇÖs boogey-men. They set their sights on Band of Brothers, a symbol of the EVE GÇ£establishmentGÇ¥ and waged a guerilla war using insurgent tactics, espionage and betrayal to bring down their foe.
I'd say initially it was more BoB going after the Goons then the other way round. Only when that fight became more and more bitter, Goons transformed into the 'we try to ruin your game' attitude with all the meta-gaming and underhanded tactics.
Many people might hate them, but I think they make this game a lot more fun.
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
Kill Rockstar
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:05:00 -
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Hi, I can say pubbie, I'm so cool! |
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:34:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Quote:Goonswarm came into the game to ruin GÇ£yourGÇ¥ game. They set out to gank, grief and scam their way to becoming EVEGÇÖs boogey-men. They set their sights on Band of Brothers, a symbol of the EVE GÇ£establishmentGÇ¥ and waged a guerilla war using insurgent tactics, espionage and betrayal to bring down their foe. I'd say initially it was more BoB going after the Goons then the other way round. Only when that fight became more and more bitter, Goons transformed into the 'we try to ruin your game' attitude with all the meta-gaming and underhanded tactics. Many people might hate them, but I think they make this game a lot more fun.
YEAH... BoB were totally not doing the same stuff...
And they TOTALLY didnt have CCP working in their alliance.
Its kinda different when you have ppl that were Goons first THEN went to CCP (sleeper cell) than ppl that work at CCP and join your corp (IE T20 - google it if you dont know what that is)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:10:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Many people might hate them, but I think they make this game a lot more fun.
Well they used to.
I suppose all the goon tears lately are kind of fun.
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Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:13:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Quote:
Disclaimer: Yes, I am posting on an NPC Corp alt. This is because I canGÇÖt be arsed to deal with idiotic, whiney teenagers in-game and I really donGÇÖt care in the slightest what any of you think about alts.
And suddenly you're irrelevant.
Sort of like how everyone else considers people posting from a goonswarm account to be irrelevant? |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:15:00 -
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Aranakas wrote:
Sort of like how everyone else considers people posting from a goonswarm account to be irrelevant?
Maybe he meant irrelevant like those 10k votes they were so proud of? It's hard to tell, the post is all smudged with what appears to be goon tears. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:22:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:YEAH... BoB were totally not doing the same stuff...
And they TOTALLY didnt have CCP working in their alliance.
Its kinda different when you have ppl that were Goons first THEN went to CCP (sleeper cell) than ppl that work at CCP and join your corp (IE T20 - google it if you dont know what that is)
Yeah, I totally believe you.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:49:00 -
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Everyone should play with their pretend spaceships the same way, the way I want them to.
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