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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.10.12 10:17:00 -
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There is another option, if you have some friends and you're feeling a bit more ambitious. Choose a single damage type, fit several battleships with smartbombs only of that type, and tank all of them specifically against that type. EM is probably best.
Then set up within range of each other and have fun 1-volleying much larger ships than usual. --- DIY copying in Liekuri 20:1 mineral compression Eve Online folding@home team |

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.10.12 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro There is another option, if you have some friends and you're feeling a bit more ambitious. Choose a single damage type, fit several battleships with smartbombs only of that type, and tank all of them specifically against that type. EM is probably best.
Then set up within range of each other and have fun 1-volleying much larger ships than usual.
Bombersquads like this won't work in lowsec because you need to be able to tank the sentries too. That means you need an omni tank (sentries do around 350 DPS at 18.18% EM, 18.18% Explosive, 31.82% Kinetic and 31.82% Thermal).
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.12 14:19:00 -
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Smartbombing is still feasible niche tactic, for targetting t1 frigates, unhardened ceptors and some lower tier haulers. You won't get 100% success rate (mostly due server latency), and many ships will pass wondering why they were hit with couple smarties.
A few tips; mostly based on long-ago 0.0 experience and some lowsec trials
* SETUP
If can, get a scout of any kind, to watch the system behind the gate you sitting. Noob in cloaked hauler 2km from the gate is nice.
Almost any BS with 8 highs will do the job; highs with named or faction smarties. One or two cap boosters, rest for surviability (nanoes or stabs), don't worry about tanking that much (plate or two if you really need).
Fitting cloak is tough choice; losing the 8th smarty often adds the last crucial damage. Fitting one gives you ability to peacefully wait for targets even when you're flagged.
* PICKING SYSTEM
Ideal system has lot of traffic, only two major gates, no stations, no afkers (so you can semi-afk till target in local) and long enough distance to the other gate (allowing you to react when you see them in scanner).
* GETTING ON SPOT
Pick direction you want to camp (usually people heading towards empire from lowsec/0.0 area), lets call the gates as FROM and TO based on direction targets fly.
Put your scoot behind TO gate, warp to FROM gate, and then back to TO gate at 15km. While in warp, make SS or more close to the TO gate. Approach the gate to distance comfortable to you (7.5km - 15km all work), and BM the spot.
If you got cloak, sit at the spot till see potential target. If have no cloak, sit on SS close to the gate, aligned at full speed, ready to warp to the smarty BM you made.
* BLOWING THEM UP
Check that you are aligned correctly (zoom out and roll the view to see you're between the two gates), activate tactical overview, zoom right above you (or rather that view is at 90 degree angle with warp line). Use scanner to get warning when you need to be ready for the victim.
When the target is about to pass into radius of smarties, fire them all as fast as you can (some keybinding things doing that with single press should be legal).
If you score, have the alt to scoop loot, and go wait back to the SS, or get back at the gate cloaked.
* AVOIDING LOWSEC smartbombers - Use an interceptor with medium shield extender for hauling good stuff - If more than one potential bomber in local, warp via a planet
* RANDOM NOTES
- Jump hauling and hp boosts was huge hit for the profits of this profession - Faction smarties are tasty and addictive - 0.0 with bubble/dictor alt is rather nice still - With the scout, can camp both directions
-Lasse retired
P.S. Those familiar with Perl could try to play with script for calculating what kind of ships given combination of smartbombs will be able to kill: ship_bombs.tar (customer support not included; database last updated after the major hp buff).
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Neyro7830
Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 14:23:00 -
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hay gaiz, how can I keel lots a ppl and be reeeeeeelly lame @ teh same tiem? >_> |

Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.12 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Neyro7830 hay gaiz, how can I keel lots a ppl and be reeeeeeelly lame @ teh same tiem?
(1) Wait till you're in fleet (2) contact enemy FC (3) drop gang, leet enemy FC gang you, enemy warp to your old fleet, rejoin first gang, open fire on yr ex-alliance mates who won't even see you on their overview.
Thats the lamest way of killing people I can think of
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.10.12 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 12/10/2008 15:13:52
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Now I have not done this...nor am I pot-kettle name calling 
But I have sat my ship in front of a friends smart bombs and let him set off what looked like a nuke right in my face. Very little damage taken....
So I turned off my resists.... same thing....
Now granted his SP in SB probably were not great. But I cant see this working very well. There is a reason why CCP put interdiction spheres in the game. Players say "oh **** I bubble on a gate!" Not "holy **** I smart bomb fleet!"
1)SP in smartbombs relate to ROF not damage 2)Ive got over 1800 kill in a smartbomber. 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 4)They are also talking about killing frigates and below.
To the guy earlier who said you can kill t1 cruisers.. you cant (baring prior damage)
SKUNK
Ask and ye shall recieve.James here killed a few cruisers along the way when he did it.
1. fit four em smartbombs. 2. fit four expolsive smartbombs. 3. anchor small catch bubble far from gate in random 0.0 spot. 4. ????? 5. Make billions.
3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres
Originally by: Nyphur
Bombersquads like this won't work in lowsec because you need to be able to tank the sentries too. That means you need an omni tank (sentries do around 350 DPS at 18.18% EM, 18.18% Explosive, 31.82% Kinetic and 31.82% Thermal).
Yes they do though difficult to co-ordinate
SKUNK
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Neyro7830
Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.
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Posted - 2008.10.12 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Neyro7830 hay gaiz, how can I keel lots a ppl and be reeeeeeelly lame @ teh same tiem?
(1) Wait till you're in fleet (2) contact enemy FC (3) drop gang, leet enemy FC gang you, enemy warp to your old fleet, rejoin first gang, open fire on yr ex-alliance mates who won't even see you on their overview.
Thats the lamest way of killing people I can think of
(4) Profit!
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.10.12 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 12/10/2008 15:13:52
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Now I have not done this...nor am I pot-kettle name calling 
But I have sat my ship in front of a friends smart bombs and let him set off what looked like a nuke right in my face. Very little damage taken....
So I turned off my resists.... same thing....
Now granted his SP in SB probably were not great. But I cant see this working very well. There is a reason why CCP put interdiction spheres in the game. Players say "oh **** I bubble on a gate!" Not "holy **** I smart bomb fleet!"
1)SP in smartbombs relate to ROF not damage 2)Ive got over 1800 kill in a smartbomber. 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 4)They are also talking about killing frigates and below.
To the guy earlier who said you can kill t1 cruisers.. you cant (baring prior damage)
SKUNK
Ask and ye shall recieve.James here killed a few cruisers along the way when he did it.
1. fit four em smartbombs. 2. fit four expolsive smartbombs. 3. anchor small catch bubble far from gate in random 0.0 spot. 4. ????? 5. Make billions.
3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres 3)They are talking about low sec not 0.0 hence no interdiction spheres
Originally by: Nyphur
Bombersquads like this won't work in lowsec because you need to be able to tank the sentries too. That means you need an omni tank (sentries do around 350 DPS at 18.18% EM, 18.18% Explosive, 31.82% Kinetic and 31.82% Thermal).
Yes they do though difficult to co-ordinate
SKUNK
My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers.
And no he couldn't web them down he had like four stabs on. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.10.12 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: SSgt Sniper
My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers.
The OP wanted to know how to smartbomb in low sec.. hence the title of this thread which is
Low Sec Smart bombing
Hence you cannot deploy bubbles, hence you cannot kill cruisers as mentioned by a prior poster.
In the particular post i was referring to, the poster claimed you could kill t1 cruisers using the hang off a gate method which I stated you cannot, unless the ship has prior damage. I was correct.
Pre HP buff you would have just been able to do it I believe
Its worth noting you can kill many dictor setups with a one shot.
SKUNK
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.10.12 21:59:00 -
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1. get 10 motherships 2. laugh at hictors 3. smartbombs all over the gate right approach the gate and ur utter size will place you in fine of a spot. 4. ??? 5. Profit. ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?" |

SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: SSgt Sniper on 13/10/2008 12:22:51
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers. My point was he killed cruisers.
The OP wanted to know how to smartbomb in low sec.. hence the title of this thread which is
Low Sec Smart bombing
Hence you cannot deploy bubbles, hence you cannot kill cruisers as mentioned by a prior poster.
In the particular post i was referring to, the poster claimed you could kill t1 cruisers using the hang off a gate method which I stated you cannot, unless the ship has prior damage. I was correct.
Pre HP buff you would have just been able to do it I believe
Its worth noting you can kill many dictor setups with a one shot.
SKUNK
I shall endeavor to test on singularity to confirm. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2008.10.13 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gallente Naval Who are you? nobody.
GN
Ask your mum if you can borrow a tampon. You're nobody either.
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