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Strill	Posted - 2008.10.23 21:33:00 - [1] From the live dev blog: gg everyone Originally by: 'Zulupark' Personally I don't see anything wrong with blaster ships, and think they will be better after the changes. Though if anything comes up on TQ or during testing it'll be looked at.
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 05:51:00 - [2] Edited by: Strill on 24/10/2008 05:54:47 Fine. I'm gonna say that everyone's analysis has been wrong because looking at any arbitrary point on a graph won't show you what the whole graph looks like. One graph could have the highest effectiveness at one point but be crap everywhere else. To that end I prepared a few graphs of damage vs range for you to compare. Some of them look pretty even, but a lot of them look pretty darn skewed. All graphs are done using max skills, largest T2 guns, and shortest-range T1 ammo. Ship bonuses and target sig radius/traversal is listed. Max Skills, No bonuses +25% damage blaster vs stock pulse laser Blaster Mega vs Pulse Geddon Lyria Skydancer's proposed comparison (Mega vs geddon while shooting a 265 sig 400m/s target) Hyperion vs Apocalypse Hyperion vs Apoc while shooting at Lyria's AB-ing Battlecruiser Megathron vs Apocalypse Megathron vs Apocalypse while shooting at Lyria's AB-ing Battlecruiser All of the graphs in one picture If you'd like another graph I'd be happy to provide one.
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 06:34:00 - [3] Edited by: Strill on 24/10/2008 06:39:00 Here's some graphs with faction webifiers taken into account. Traversal is 100, sig radius is 100, everything else is the same as I listed in my other post. http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graphwithwebshc8.png
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 06:46:00 - [4] Edited by: Strill on 24/10/2008 06:46:22 Originally by: Goumindong ed: Note, I am not saying there isn't one, but I am saying that I would like you to explain just why its a problem rather than simply stating that it is. The only one where blasters outdid pulse lasers was the mega vs apoc. All the others either did the same damage within a smaller range window or did less damage even at their peak. The Hyperion vs Apoc showed blasters doing especially poorly.
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Murkon Salesgirl Do your graphs with Null and Scorch. Cos with these new acceleration and speed, there's no way your blaster mega or hype is going to be getting effective range for antimatter. Now multiply this problem tenfold in a gang situation since before at least your MWD will get you into range quickly. http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graphswitht2ammogw0.png If you'd like, here's the spreadsheet I used to calculate this stuff...although I made it in openoffice, so I'm not sure if it'll export to excel ok. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/single-sheet.zip
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Strill Originally by: Murkon Salesgirl Do your graphs with Null and Scorch. Cos with these new acceleration and speed, there's no way your blaster mega or hype is going to be getting effective range for antimatter. Now multiply this problem tenfold in a gang situation since before at least your MWD will get you into range quickly. http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graphswitht2ammogw0.png If you'd like, here's the spreadsheet I used to calculate this stuff...although I made it in openoffice, so I'm not sure if it'll export to excel ok. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/single-sheet.zip You did something wrong, the optimal range on an Apoc with scorch is about 60km with no tracking mods. You're dropping off about 34km, which says to me something is wrong. you're right. I fixed it.
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:49:00 - [7] Edited by: Strill on 24/10/2008 07:56:03 Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 24/10/2008 07:39:32 Originally by: Strill you're right. I fixed it. Did you update the hosted image?? Also can you pop out some graphs of say, the Geddon vs Mega/Hpy with the web?[drones and damage type unnecessary, though it would be helpful] I edited my original post. Here's the mega and hype graphs vs geddons with webs included. http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megaandhypevsgeddonrd1.png Oh ya, and fyi these graphs are for a single turret installed on either of these ships. So they don't take into account slot layout.
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Goumindong A) Drones: They indeed exist, also try aggressive maneuvering. It works, seriously. I do it all the time. The test involved moving the mega as much as its pilot possibly could.

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