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Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:38:00 - [1] Myself and several of my corp mates are -10 ... it was easy to get that low, but now we need to fly into high sec to help friends at war... we have tried 0.0 and it still seems not to mate much difference we spend most of our time hiding from the gangs passing through or just looking for rats big enough to worry about shooting... (if we can even get our ships to 0.0 without beeing camped) Can anyone help!! This is not even an alt posting! Thats how much i really need any advice! Thanks Guys -- Chapters.
Fallen Elite Retrogenesis	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:40:00 - [2] Step 1:Go rat 0.0 for a few hours. Step 2:Get ISK. Step 3:??? Step 4:Pay for Mercs, your Sec's not going that low without some dedicated time. ------
Fictional Hero	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:54:00 - [3] Edited by: Fictional Hero on 12/10/2008 15:54:32 running lvl 4 missions brought my sec stat from -3.01 to -1.98 in about 8 hours.
Pete X Minmatar B.U.R.N.	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:56:00 - [4] took me 19hours to go from -10 to -1.9 raven ftw + 0.0
Gordon Marinius Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:56:00 - [5] Repent for your crimes against humanity, sinner. Repent!!
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:00:00 - [6] ok so 0.0 seems to be the best option... but is there a differance in what 0.0 you are in... my mate spent 8 solid hours today looking for BS rats and only went from -9 to 8.2
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:09:00 - [7] you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. ________________________ I'M POOR
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Kaeten you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. Your right... if you kill 3 BS's in 15min in 3 different systems you get 3 hits.. but how do you find that many... where can i/we rent space that can offer safe ratting to do this without jumping into a camp every hour....
Blood Daemon Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Chapters Originally by: Kaeten you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. Your right... if you kill 3 BS's in 15min in 3 different systems you get 3 hits.. but how do you find that many... where can i/we rent space that can offer safe ratting to do this without jumping into a camp every hour.... Find a pipe... get 2 scout alts... one at each end and rat away, if any scout alts report hostiles you safe spot up and cloak.. hostiles hate cloaked ships and usually give up once they find out they're cloaked... although sometimes they like to try an catch you..
Radcjk Caldari Dark Star LTD	Posted - 2008.10.12 18:11:00 - [10] Go to Syndicate. Its the slums of 0.0, its npc owned, various factions claim to control it, but two or three of you guys in inties should be able to by pass 90% of that no problem. Small fast ships. Inties, maybe AFs, hell SB's can do it. Since your after sec status, not isk, work together. Hit a system kill a BS, go to the next system, split up, find BS, gang up on it, rinse and repeat. Fastest you're gonna gain that sec back out side of missions.
Phoenix492 UK1 Zero	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:36:00 - [11] Rat. Rat. Rat. Oh,and train Fast Talk. Think that works. Blah.
Commander Thrawn the united	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:51:00 - [12] there are alot of just plain empty 0.0 system. that hard part is getting to your destination but once you are there you can spend hours without seeing anyone. just use the map and check a few region that are dead.
Lorzion Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:06:00 - [13] Edited by: Lorzion on 12/10/2008 22:05:54 train fast talk. I went from -10 to -1.6 in one week of ratting. unfortunatly i lost all that sec within a hour .
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:27:00 - [14] 1. Contact Capital Produce (FTZ) 2. Join up get to their space 2. Train Fast Talk to 4 3. Find 5 consecutive 0.0 systems 5. Kill 1 BS in each 0.0 system then move onto next ??????? PROFIT!
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:25:00 - [15] Edited by: Kirra Liu on 12/10/2008 23:25:19 1. Gather up your stuffÖ and contract it all to me 2. Delete your character 3. Create a new character 4. ???? 5. Profit Or you could just do as allready said I suppose. kill a BS rat and move onto the next system. AF's and HAC's are good for ninja ratting.
N3oXr2ii	Posted - 2008.10.13 03:50:00 - [16] Ok so if i kill 3 bs rats in 3 systems in 15mins i get 3 sec hits ??? If i train fast talk it will give me an extra % on every sec hit i get ??? ^^ is what i believe to be true can someone confirm this ??
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:03:00 - [17] When I ratted my sec up from -10, I stuck a cloak on a cap stable armor tanked ishtar and went to goon-pet space. They're terrible. Some of them were actually pretty hospitable, and left me new drones and stuff at planets to scoop. Not getting camped is pretty easy if you go somehwere you can't be camped, stay the **** away from stations. Abusive \| Deadspace \| Deadspace2
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:40:00 - [18] Edited by: Vim on 13/10/2008 11:42:57 Get fast talk to lvl4 and do the change of systems after every bs rat you find. If you come upon a spawn in a belt including two bs. Kill one, go to next system, kill one bs there, go back kill second bs in spawn 1, go back to system 2 kill another bs, look for more, keep doing this, wait for bs spawn in system #1 #2 to repopulate, when you get a couple of bs spawns it gets easy =) edit: Use a HAC or something such thats abit faster then a bs to get out of the way. Also ye, stick a cloak on it if your ninja ratting. Your not here for prolonged ratting, you want to drop one bs, then go another system and find another one fast as you can =)
N3oXr2ii X10 Punishment	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:44:00 - [19] In the past i have always just stayed in the 1 system moved on when the rats started to be crap. I'll try this way see how i get on thanks.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.10.13 12:43:00 - [20] Force Recons (As long as you're not a Falcon pilot) are a viable solo platform for ratting. I ninja ratted down from -7.8 to -2.1 over the course of a weekend in a Ninja-Ratting-Arazu. . I didn't have the Fast Talk skill at the time either, in total looking at my logs I spent about 16-17 hours ratting. And yes, when you're done you'll probably lose your sec again because ratting is so boring! Serpentis Rats are easy to kill in the Arazu. I imagine you could do something similar with a Pilgrim or Rapier, although the Rapier likely will need an ammo supply if you're using Auto's for the extra damage. I just found some deadend triangle of 3 systems in Outer Ring and ratted there mostly undisturbed.
Lumari Caldari The Zoo Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:45:00 - [21] this will be a daunting task for you to get to -1.9, and by that time your friends might not need the help they once did. Train Fast Talk to lvl 3 the minimum, it will help you increase your sec status marginally faster. Go to: http://eveinfo.com/evemap/ and search for -0.5 to -0.9 (null sec or 00), join an alliance that owns that territory and rat in those systems (permitting you are allowed to.) At this point it will take you about a week doing 4-5 hr shifts chaining the rats, as well as making a lot of isk.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:27:00 - [22] Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no?
Kulmid The Bastards	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? I think he just meant your name was "weak" not the corp itself... You would think CCP would have added things like, "Amarr", "CCP", "Microwarpdrive", etc. to their forum dictionary.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:36:00 - [24] I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2008.10.14 08:56:00 - [25] true 0.0 fountain etc just rat for a few hours kill officers and faction spawns they **** the sec status down
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Nexa Necis I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something Or how about you take the comment how it was actually said, rather than doctoring it.
Mysteriaxe	Posted - 2008.10.14 10:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Nexa Necis I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something TRAPS where did I remember that name. Oh yeah it was the corp that got thrashed so bad by a new member training corp they had to join privatears and even then they got there buttocks handed to them.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.10.14 12:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Lord TYMAN 1. Contact Capital Produce (FTZ) 2. Join up get to their space 2. Train Fast Talk to 4 3. Find 5 consecutive 0.0 systems 5. Kill 1 BS in each 0.0 system then move onto next ??????? PROFIT! dude... that corp name and this faulty skill info don't go together - putting the gist back into logistics
Doc Rehab 30 ounces	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:24:00 - [29] Edited by: Doc Rehab on 14/10/2008 13:24:21 has someone mentioned ratting yet?......
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:52:00 - [30] Originally by: kor anon Or how about you take the comment how it was actually said, rather than doctoring it. I didn't doctor anything. As I said, judging from the emails and comments your alliance has made, none of it was called for. You're a bunch of hypocrites to me judging between your bios and current actions. Either way his comment was unsolicited smack talk.

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