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Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:38:00 - [1] Myself and several of my corp mates are -10 ... it was easy to get that low, but now we need to fly into high sec to help friends at war... we have tried 0.0 and it still seems not to mate much difference we spend most of our time hiding from the gangs passing through or just looking for rats big enough to worry about shooting... (if we can even get our ships to 0.0 without beeing camped) Can anyone help!! This is not even an alt posting! Thats how much i really need any advice! Thanks Guys -- Chapters.
Fallen Elite Retrogenesis	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:40:00 - [2] Step 1:Go rat 0.0 for a few hours. Step 2:Get ISK. Step 3:??? Step 4:Pay for Mercs, your Sec's not going that low without some dedicated time. ------
Fictional Hero	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:54:00 - [3] Edited by: Fictional Hero on 12/10/2008 15:54:32 running lvl 4 missions brought my sec stat from -3.01 to -1.98 in about 8 hours.
Pete X Minmatar B.U.R.N.	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:56:00 - [4] took me 19hours to go from -10 to -1.9 raven ftw + 0.0
Gordon Marinius Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:56:00 - [5] Repent for your crimes against humanity, sinner. Repent!!
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:00:00 - [6] ok so 0.0 seems to be the best option... but is there a differance in what 0.0 you are in... my mate spent 8 solid hours today looking for BS rats and only went from -9 to 8.2
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:09:00 - [7] you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. ________________________ I'M POOR
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Kaeten you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. Your right... if you kill 3 BS's in 15min in 3 different systems you get 3 hits.. but how do you find that many... where can i/we rent space that can offer safe ratting to do this without jumping into a camp every hour....
Blood Daemon Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Chapters Originally by: Kaeten you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. Your right... if you kill 3 BS's in 15min in 3 different systems you get 3 hits.. but how do you find that many... where can i/we rent space that can offer safe ratting to do this without jumping into a camp every hour.... Find a pipe... get 2 scout alts... one at each end and rat away, if any scout alts report hostiles you safe spot up and cloak.. hostiles hate cloaked ships and usually give up once they find out they're cloaked... although sometimes they like to try an catch you..
Radcjk Caldari Dark Star LTD	Posted - 2008.10.12 18:11:00 - [10] Go to Syndicate. Its the slums of 0.0, its npc owned, various factions claim to control it, but two or three of you guys in inties should be able to by pass 90% of that no problem. Small fast ships. Inties, maybe AFs, hell SB's can do it. Since your after sec status, not isk, work together. Hit a system kill a BS, go to the next system, split up, find BS, gang up on it, rinse and repeat. Fastest you're gonna gain that sec back out side of missions.
Phoenix492 UK1 Zero	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:36:00 - [11] Rat. Rat. Rat. Oh,and train Fast Talk. Think that works. Blah.
Commander Thrawn the united	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:51:00 - [12] there are alot of just plain empty 0.0 system. that hard part is getting to your destination but once you are there you can spend hours without seeing anyone. just use the map and check a few region that are dead.
Lorzion Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:06:00 - [13] Edited by: Lorzion on 12/10/2008 22:05:54 train fast talk. I went from -10 to -1.6 in one week of ratting. unfortunatly i lost all that sec within a hour .
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:27:00 - [14] 1. Contact Capital Produce (FTZ) 2. Join up get to their space 2. Train Fast Talk to 4 3. Find 5 consecutive 0.0 systems 5. Kill 1 BS in each 0.0 system then move onto next ??????? PROFIT!
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:25:00 - [15] Edited by: Kirra Liu on 12/10/2008 23:25:19 1. Gather up your stuffÖ and contract it all to me 2. Delete your character 3. Create a new character 4. ???? 5. Profit Or you could just do as allready said I suppose. kill a BS rat and move onto the next system. AF's and HAC's are good for ninja ratting.
N3oXr2ii	Posted - 2008.10.13 03:50:00 - [16] Ok so if i kill 3 bs rats in 3 systems in 15mins i get 3 sec hits ??? If i train fast talk it will give me an extra % on every sec hit i get ??? ^^ is what i believe to be true can someone confirm this ??
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:03:00 - [17] When I ratted my sec up from -10, I stuck a cloak on a cap stable armor tanked ishtar and went to goon-pet space. They're terrible. Some of them were actually pretty hospitable, and left me new drones and stuff at planets to scoop. Not getting camped is pretty easy if you go somehwere you can't be camped, stay the **** away from stations. Abusive \| Deadspace \| Deadspace2
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:40:00 - [18] Edited by: Vim on 13/10/2008 11:42:57 Get fast talk to lvl4 and do the change of systems after every bs rat you find. If you come upon a spawn in a belt including two bs. Kill one, go to next system, kill one bs there, go back kill second bs in spawn 1, go back to system 2 kill another bs, look for more, keep doing this, wait for bs spawn in system #1 #2 to repopulate, when you get a couple of bs spawns it gets easy =) edit: Use a HAC or something such thats abit faster then a bs to get out of the way. Also ye, stick a cloak on it if your ninja ratting. Your not here for prolonged ratting, you want to drop one bs, then go another system and find another one fast as you can =)
N3oXr2ii X10 Punishment	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:44:00 - [19] In the past i have always just stayed in the 1 system moved on when the rats started to be crap. I'll try this way see how i get on thanks.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.10.13 12:43:00 - [20] Force Recons (As long as you're not a Falcon pilot) are a viable solo platform for ratting. I ninja ratted down from -7.8 to -2.1 over the course of a weekend in a Ninja-Ratting-Arazu. . I didn't have the Fast Talk skill at the time either, in total looking at my logs I spent about 16-17 hours ratting. And yes, when you're done you'll probably lose your sec again because ratting is so boring! Serpentis Rats are easy to kill in the Arazu. I imagine you could do something similar with a Pilgrim or Rapier, although the Rapier likely will need an ammo supply if you're using Auto's for the extra damage. I just found some deadend triangle of 3 systems in Outer Ring and ratted there mostly undisturbed.
Lumari Caldari The Zoo Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:45:00 - [21] this will be a daunting task for you to get to -1.9, and by that time your friends might not need the help they once did. Train Fast Talk to lvl 3 the minimum, it will help you increase your sec status marginally faster. Go to: http://eveinfo.com/evemap/ and search for -0.5 to -0.9 (null sec or 00), join an alliance that owns that territory and rat in those systems (permitting you are allowed to.) At this point it will take you about a week doing 4-5 hr shifts chaining the rats, as well as making a lot of isk.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:27:00 - [22] Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no?
Kulmid The Bastards	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? I think he just meant your name was "weak" not the corp itself... You would think CCP would have added things like, "Amarr", "CCP", "Microwarpdrive", etc. to their forum dictionary.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:36:00 - [24] I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2008.10.14 08:56:00 - [25] true 0.0 fountain etc just rat for a few hours kill officers and faction spawns they **** the sec status down
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Nexa Necis I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something Or how about you take the comment how it was actually said, rather than doctoring it.
Mysteriaxe	Posted - 2008.10.14 10:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Nexa Necis I dunno, judging from their emails to me and other comments they made, I think he meant it the way I took it. I don't think he is American and he actually meant to say... some weak corp named the awesome players or something not some weak named corp the awesome players or something TRAPS where did I remember that name. Oh yeah it was the corp that got thrashed so bad by a new member training corp they had to join privatears and even then they got there buttocks handed to them.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.10.14 12:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Lord TYMAN 1. Contact Capital Produce (FTZ) 2. Join up get to their space 2. Train Fast Talk to 4 3. Find 5 consecutive 0.0 systems 5. Kill 1 BS in each 0.0 system then move onto next ??????? PROFIT! dude... that corp name and this faulty skill info don't go together - putting the gist back into logistics
Doc Rehab 30 ounces	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:24:00 - [29] Edited by: Doc Rehab on 14/10/2008 13:24:21 has someone mentioned ratting yet?......
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:52:00 - [30] Originally by: kor anon Or how about you take the comment how it was actually said, rather than doctoring it. I didn't doctor anything. As I said, judging from the emails and comments your alliance has made, none of it was called for. You're a bunch of hypocrites to me judging between your bios and current actions. Either way his comment was unsolicited smack talk.
CommmanderInChief Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Radcjk Go to Syndicate. Its the slums of 0.0, its npc owned, various factions claim to control it, but two or three of you guys in inties should be able to by pass 90% of that no problem. Small fast ships. Inties, maybe AFs, hell SB's can do it. Since your after sec status, not isk, work together. Hit a system kill a BS, go to the next system, split up, find BS, gang up on it, rinse and repeat. Fastest you're gonna gain that sec back out side of missions. Yes go to NPC best NPC area by far for good BS rats in Venal! There are quiet spots :)
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.14 14:15:00 - [32] Edited by: kor anon on 14/10/2008 14:19:01 Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: kor anon Or how about you take the comment how it was actually said, rather than doctoring it. I didn't doctor anything. As I said, judging from the emails and comments your alliance has made, none of it was called for. You're a bunch of hypocrites to me judging between your bios and current actions. Either way his comment was unsolicited smack talk. If your refering to my bio you lack a sense of humor. It seems you are far too eager to smack us judging by your posts and also by calling us hypocrytes. I think you you should start practicing what you preach.
Towelieban Minmatar V I R I I	Posted - 2008.10.14 14:18:00 - [33] what i used to do in the past is look for a const not in a travel route and then make nice circles killing 1 bs per system and then jumping ahead, just make sure it takes at least 15 min before you enter the same system again
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 15:52:00 - [34] Originally by: kor anon If your refering to my bio you lack a sense of humor. It seems you are far too eager to smack us judging by your posts and also by calling us hypocrytes. I think you you should start practicing what you preach. No, I don't think it was your particular bio. I just think it's hypocritical to call my corp lame for dec'ing "weak industrial" corps and you guys sit and pick off random n00bs in gate camps and post their rants in your bios. Anyway, I don't want to crap on Charter's thread any more than I have. 0.0 ratting with maxed fast talk skill is the quickest way to get that sec status up.
ScaR97731	Posted - 2008.10.14 16:23:00 - [35] I love the whining in this forum. It is music to my soul. It just totally warms my heart knowing that CCP fixed the system so that if a scumbag pirate does the crime he has to do the time by having to EARN his way back to hi-sec, and this earning takes a LONG time. Meanwhile, the good and wholesome citizens of EVE can go on with business as usual hauling 9.2 billion worth of T2 modules around in a cheap T1 hauler KNOWING that the the usual suspects who are most likely to attack their hauler are currently down in low-sec playing the wildly popular game called "Don't drop the soap" with their other loser, pirate friends, and are unable to harass, or bother anyone in hi-sec with their nefarious intentions. I laughed long and hard reading some of the suggestions for the OP in this forum, and I am certain that other Carebears are laughing too. We are all laughing at the the Pirates. Do you hear it? We are laughing. Laughter
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:39:00 - [36] Originally by: Kaeten you gain sec status every 15min, so every 15 min you have to have killed a rat bs because the biggest rat gives them ost sec. About systems, I belive you can get sec from multiple systems so running around shooting bs's in diffrent systems i belive gets you the most sec. I could be wrong though. ^^This ------------------------------------------------- Items posted by me are in no way a reflection of the policies and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance. {though they maybe really ought to be}
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:19:00 - [37] Originally by: ScaR97731 I love the whining in this forum. It is music to my soul. It just totally warms my heart knowing that CCP fixed the system so that if a scumbag pirate does the crime he has to do the time by having to EARN his way back to hi-sec, and this earning takes a LONG time. Meanwhile, the good and wholesome citizens of EVE can go on with business as usual hauling 9.2 billion worth of T2 modules around in a cheap T1 hauler KNOWING that the the usual suspects who are most likely to attack their hauler are currently down in low-sec playing the wildly popular game called "Don't drop the soap" with their other loser, pirate friends, and are unable to harass, or bother anyone in hi-sec with their nefarious intentions. I laughed long and hard reading some of the suggestions for the OP in this forum, and I am certain that other Carebears are laughing too. We are all laughing at the the Pirates. Do you hear it? We are laughing. Laughter I don't think the OP was even close to whining in the least. Reading your post will probably help non-pirate types understand why we like killing your kind so much. Sounds like someone had a hauler ganked, no?
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:22:00 - [38] Edited by: Dianeces on 14/10/2008 19:23:12 Originally by: ScaR97731 I love the whining in this forum. It is music to my soul. It just totally warms my heart knowing that CCP fixed the system so that if a scumbag pirate does the crime he has to do the time by having to EARN his way back to hi-sec, and this earning takes a LONG time. Meanwhile, the good and wholesome citizens of EVE can go on with business as usual hauling 9.2 billion worth of T2 modules around in a cheap T1 hauler KNOWING that the the usual suspects who are most likely to attack their hauler are currently down in low-sec playing the wildly popular game called "Don't drop the soap" with their other loser, pirate friends, and are unable to harass, or bother anyone in hi-sec with their nefarious intentions. I laughed long and hard reading some of the suggestions for the OP in this forum, and I am certain that other Carebears are laughing too. We are all laughing at the the Pirates. Do you hear it? We are laughing. Laughter It's you. You are the troll ITT. Edit: Furthermore, please come to Fountain. We're so lonely, we want someone to play with.
Lex Alandar Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:27:00 - [39] Originally by: ScaR97731 I love the whining in this forum. It is music to my soul. It just totally warms my heart knowing that CCP fixed the system so that if a scumbag pirate does the crime he has to do the time by having to EARN his way back to hi-sec, and this earning takes a LONG time. Meanwhile, the good and wholesome citizens of EVE can go on with business as usual hauling 9.2 billion worth of T2 modules around in a cheap T1 hauler KNOWING that the the usual suspects who are most likely to attack their hauler are currently down in low-sec playing the wildly popular game called "Don't drop the soap" with their other loser, pirate friends, and are unable to harass, or bother anyone in hi-sec with their nefarious intentions. I laughed long and hard reading some of the suggestions for the OP in this forum, and I am certain that other Carebears are laughing too. We are all laughing at the the Pirates. Do you hear it? We are laughing. Laughter Oh yes, we are so hard-done-by All these hundreds of millions of isk and faction loot, our penalty for being pirates. Really, it makes my life so hard to turn carebear for awhile to make ridiculous isk and gain positive sec status. You know what the most horrible part is? If I encounter your pitiful alt, I will actually lose less sec status because mine is higher than his. It is so difficult being a pirate with high sec status =( ______________ Ooooh, Shiny
Sunshine Grifter Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.10.14 22:32:00 - [40] You could try going into astroid belts and shooting NPCS might also want to do missions, or perhaps even train fast talk skill.
Stele Toque Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.15 15:24:00 - [41] Save kittens stuck in trees? The game is brutal as reap what you sow. Sounds like you got a long road ahead of you.
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.26 13:50:00 - [42] Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? LOL this post made my night.... i posted the orginal question before we were even at war... so you FAIL.. war was still 12 hours away and we still do not see you as a threat.. we have our own targets and reasons to get our sec up.. the members mentioned above were a bunch of noobs that have since been kicked out of the alliance... I have been in 0.0 ratting and will be back in High Sec soon... and as you have been paid to Dec us for a full month and even have a spy giving you intel (and we know who this is) it means you may get a chance for a real fight (if your up for it) against someone who not only has skills in mining.... Thanks to everyone who posted in here with real answers... seems 0.0 doing a loop every 15 min works the best... RL keeps my online time short atm.. but in about 8 hours i went up 5.0... so only 3.0 to go.... and Nexa Necis i just wanted to say it again ... you and your corp FAIL. keep can flipping and killing noobs.. i am sure its all your good at..
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:42:00 - [43] ~Nexa thread**s are the best thread**s~
K1RTH G3RS3N Hanzai Soshiki BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:53:00 - [44] Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? were not grinding our sec up for you guys... -10 long enough i want to be carebear now and mine... leave me alone. you should war dec ISEA, oh wait you already did right and they paid ransom? lol. how much you paid to dec us so far? been fun? i hope so... i heard you paid for quite awhile more, enjoy that... all that isk for little old us :) and all that time. do you RP nexa? we should have a RP session... *K1RTH G3RS3N polishes his armor
Foulque	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Chapters ok so 0.0 seems to be the best option... but is there a differance in what 0.0 you are in... my mate spent 8 solid hours today looking for BS rats and only went from -9 to 8.2 If he had continually jumped between 4/5 systems killing 1 BS in each he would have gotten 4/5 times the sec increase. You get a separate aggro timer for each system and the sec gain on the expiration of each timer. Would take anywhere from 2 days to a week to get back into empire, just depends how much time you'er willling to spend fixing it.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.26 18:26:00 - [46] Originally by: Chapters Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? LOL this post made my night.... i posted the orginal question before we were even at war... so you FAIL.. war was still 12 hours away and we still do not see you as a threat.. we have our own targets and reasons to get our sec up.. the members mentioned above were a bunch of noobs that have since been kicked out of the alliance... I have been in 0.0 ratting and will be back in High Sec soon... and as you have been paid to Dec us for a full month and even have a spy giving you intel (and we know who this is) it means you may get a chance for a real fight (if your up for it) against someone who not only has skills in mining.... Thanks to everyone who posted in here with real answers... seems 0.0 doing a loop every 15 min works the best... RL keeps my online time short atm.. but in about 8 hours i went up 5.0... so only 3.0 to go.... and Nexa Necis i just wanted to say it again ... you and your corp FAIL. keep can flipping and killing noobs.. i am sure its all your good at.. If we're so fail, why is your alliance falling apart? You've lost at least 4 corps from it so far, another just today. If we're so fail, why is it you have 3 kills vs 44 losses? If we're so fail why does your alliance leader claim that you do the same stuff we do like dec corps and can flip? You have alliance members doing it. We watch Klothos do it daily in Teonsonude. To quote Kirth.... 2008.10.12 20:58 actually im not at all interested in going to war with you.... i know exactly what you do, and we used to, and will be, doing the same again.... So looks like you need to quit corp then. I mean if you're going to say all we do is flip cans and kill n00bs then you better not to the same. Though I see your alliance dec'd a 8 man mission running corp. That's worse than us. You're decing a small mission corp with a full alliance? What gives? Clarify for us. If all we do is kill n00bs and can flip, then your alliance must be full of miners, missioners and n00bs because we've killed a lot of you. I am guessing you're related to the other thread about us. You necro'd this one out of the blue.
K1RTH G3RS3N Hanzai Soshiki BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.26 23:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: Chapters Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something number us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? LOL this post made my night.... i posted the orginal question before we were even at war... so you FAIL.. war was still 12 hours away and we still do not see you as a threat.. we have our own targets and reasons to get our sec up.. the members mentioned above were a bunch of noobs that have since been kicked out of the alliance... I have been in 0.0 ratting and will be back in High Sec soon... and as you have been paid to Dec us for a full month and even have a spy giving you intel (and we know who this is) it means you may get a chance for a real fight (if your up for it) against someone who not only has skills in mining.... Thanks to everyone who posted in here with real answers... seems 0.0 doing a loop every 15 min works the best... RL keeps my online time short atm.. but in about 8 hours i went up 5.0... so only 3.0 to go.... and Nexa Necis i just wanted to say it again ... you and your corp FAIL. keep can flipping and killing noobs.. i am sure its all your good at.. If we're so fail, why is your alliance falling apart? You've lost at least 4 corps from it so far, another just today. If we're so fail, why is it you have 3 kills vs 44 losses? If we're so fail why does your alliance leader claim that you do the same stuff we do like dec corps and can flip? You have alliance members doing it. We watch Klothos do it daily in Teonsonude. To quote Kirth.... 2008.10.12 20:58 actually im not at all interested in going to war with you.... i know exactly what you do, and we used to, and will be, doing the same again.... So looks like you need to quit corp then. I mean if you're going to say all we do is flip cans and kill n00bs then you better not to the same. Though I see your alliance dec'd a 8 man mission running corp. That's worse than us. You're decing a small mission corp with a full alliance? What gives? Clarify for us. If all we do is kill n00bs and can flip, then your alliance must be full of miners, missioners and n00bs because we've killed a lot of you. I am guessing you're related to the other thread about us. You necro'd this one out of the blue. actually believe it or not mate this thread isnt supposed to be about you... chapters still working on his sec and no, no not for you... dont presume to know about the 8 man miner corp thingy or whatever that was... like you said to me about cinder. and i still stand by what i said more or less because i got nothing against you, but you keep paying for war anyway so thats your problem.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.26 23:07:00 - [48] I don't presume to know anything about your dec. It just seems a bit strange that TRAPS decs a lot of people. Small corps to large alliances and Chapters calls us "lame, n00bkilling can flippers". I don't quite get it. Unless he's just running his mouth or something. If he's making fun of us for decing mission corps and can flipping but you said yourself that's what your alliance will be doing, then wouldn't that be a conflict for Chapters. I mean you can't sit and call us lame for it then sit in an alliance that claims they do the same thing, right? That would make no sense.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.27 00:07:00 - [49] stop posting on the forums and just grind rats in belt instead, if you really want your sec status to go up.
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.27 13:50:00 - [50] well we are really a long way from where this topic started now arnt we :P but to clear a few things up... Nexa Necis.... FIRST.. you say you have 44 kills to 4 loses... not sure where you get that from... on my count you only have 10 kill to 4 loses... our kill board auto updates using api keys from all CEO's - and if this is not the case i would love to know what kill mails that belong to Brothers Grim are not being uploaded... please send me any links ingame to be corrected... SECOND.. when i said "keep can flipping and killing noobs.. i am sure its all your good at" it was meant more as an insult than fact (i never used the word 'lame' as mentioned in your above post i said 'Fail' very diferent things in my book.. we are all aware of who you are and what you do.. (despite what you or anyone else thinks.. there can be respect between war targets / PVP'ers) THIRD.. you say our alliance is falling apart... on this i disagree.. Brothers Grim was started with no joining requirment.. as such over 90% of our members were/are non PVP'ers it is no secreat that we olnly have about 10 active PVP'ers in the alliance.. so the members that have left or been kicked out are of no importance to us.. their only value was to you... this is where most of your kills have come from.. Brothers Grim is only going through a "Spring Clean" And finaly.. As already mentioned this post went up before our war was even active.. so you comments trying to make TRAPS seem like the 'Big, Bad war device that make an alliance scramble to get their sec up' not only enforces my fact that all our PVP'ers have not been fighting you (at least in the first week when it was posted) but you just FAIL to understand we just dont care about your little war... my intel says you were paid well to Dec us.. "been there, done that, got the T-Shirt"... as mentioned several times already this war is of no interest to myself and the other active PVP'ers in the alliance... so contine to make yourself and your small ego feel better by posting FAIL comments in other people topics.... what ever you need to do to sleep better at night... -- Chapters
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:22:00 - [51] Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 27/10/2008 14:21:41 Originally by: Chapters you only have 10 kill to 4 loses... That's still embarassingly bad Originally by: Chapters we olnly have about 10 active PVP'ers in the alliance.. hahaha jesus you have 135 people in your alliance and less than 10% can PvP?
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:27:00 - [52] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 27/10/2008 14:21:41 Originally by: Chapters you only have 10 kill to 4 loses... That's still embarassingly bad Originally by: Chapters we olnly have about 10 active PVP'ers in the alliance.. hahaha jesus you have 135 people in your alliance and less than 10% can PvP? Yep - according to our KB we only have about 9 active PVP'ers.. about 12 if i include alts over about 3 timezones.. and most of the PVP'ers are KOS.. so even i am suprised a bunch of miners got 4 kills...
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:29:00 - [53] Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 27/10/2008 14:28:51 Originally by: Chapters Yep - according to our KB we only have about 9 active PVP'ers.. about 12 if i include alts over about 3 timezones.. and most of the PVP'ers are KOS.. so even i am suprised a bunch of miners got 4 kills... Stand proud chapters, your alliance's ELITE PVP FORCE could be beaten by three people who knew what they were doing.
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 27/10/2008 14:28:51 Originally by: Chapters Yep - according to our KB we only have about 9 active PVP'ers.. about 12 if i include alts over about 3 timezones.. and most of the PVP'ers are KOS.. so even i am suprised a bunch of miners got 4 kills... Stand proud chapters, your alliance's ELITE PVP FORCE could be beaten by three people who knew what they were doing. LOL - is that trying to say how weak we are or how weak TRAPS are for only having '44' kills... lol either way... Thanks.. I Think..
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:33:00 - [55] Originally by: Chapters is that trying to say how weak we are you got it in one!
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.27 14:39:00 - [56] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Chapters is that trying to say how weak we are you got it in one! Unlike most.. we have never claimed to be anything more than what we really are.. but i would not consider myself and my fellow alliance PVP'ers 'Weak' it would take more than 3 people who knew what they were doing to take us down.. but i get your point..
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.27 16:02:00 - [57] You crack me up Chapters. You've now gone to calling us liars by insinuating we are making up kills. Here is our campaign against you guys. All of those kills are with the Brother's Grim. alliance tag. We scored 2 kills against Interstellar after the left your alliance. So to say "many of the kills happend after they left Brothers Grim" is woefully inaccurate. You say your alliance isn't falling apart, yet when I spoke with K1rth last night, he agreed that TRAPS basically dismantled your alliance due to the pressure we put on it. All of the people jumping it are getting dec'd by us and all of them are complaining about how crappy the alliance and it's leadership is. So you claim your posting to increase sec status and our war against you is completely coincidental, pray tell which war was it that you were grinding sec status up for? Your post said you needed to help friends fight in high sec, and you needed to do it quickly. Since TRAPS is the only war remaining from the timeframe of your original posting, it seems odd and not exactly coincidental. Feel free to browse our killboard. I assure you it's quite accurate, we pride ourselves on posting all losses and kills. This is the first real engagment. You had the numbers there and still lost and your guys ran. I give them credit for launching another assault. This is the second encounter. You lost 6 there, we lost none and 2 of yours redocked before we could pop them. 8 vs 4 and we lost none. Not sure why your elite PvP alliance isn't posting losses. I am willing to bet the 3 kills against us are posted though, right? Yep, sure looks like they are. Actually I just looked and you only have about half of your alliances losses posted. You might want to get a new KB that more accurately reflects kills/losses. I check the CEO kill/loss tab daily to make sure people are posting them. We have a rule that if a loss isn't posted within 24 hours of it happening they can be booted from corp. We're not being paid to dec you. You took in a corp we dec'd plain and simple. You might've assumed we would run from your alliance. You might've thought we would shy from paying 100mil a week to dec you. Your sec status looks to be quite healthy, so I am looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield along with your other PvP'ers that are remaining in the alliance.
Chapters Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.10.27 16:38:00 - [58] Edited by: Chapters on 27/10/2008 16:39:16 YOU make me LOL. I can only conclude that you are so far up your own ego that you cant see straight, you seem to have completely missed my point in my last post... Ive said it before and i will say it again... YOU FAIL, GET A RL, and stop taking the game so SERIOUS! ITS A GAME FFS. But i guess for people like you that have no RL all you have is SMACK and stealing people forums post and for that i actually feel sorry for you... Just be carefull... one day RL will smack that ego right out of you... and it will leave a big hole... LOL.... AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT! EDIT: FYI.. i am going away for a few weeks. so please keep the war dec going... or at least resume it when i get back... Thanks..
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.27 17:34:00 - [59] Originally by: Chapters Edited by: Chapters on 27/10/2008 16:39:16 YOU make me LOL. I can only conclude that you are so far up your own ego that you cant see straight, you seem to have completely missed my point in my last post... Ive said it before and i will say it again... YOU FAIL, GET A RL, and stop taking the game so SERIOUS! ITS A GAME FFS. But i guess for people like you that have no RL all you have is SMACK and stealing people forums post and for that i actually feel sorry for you... Just be carefull... one day RL will smack that ego right out of you... and it will leave a big hole... LOL.... AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT! EDIT: FYI.. i am going away for a few weeks. so please keep the war dec going... or at least resume it when i get back... Thanks.. Pretty standard response there. Threaten us, insult us, spout off incorrect information, insinuate we're liars, claim we're not affecting your alliance, then default to saying to get a life because it's only a intarweb spaceship game because that's the last resort at this point. You're telling me to get a real life, yet you're posting here asking for advice on how to win the interweb spaceships game? After all the hassle to ask about getting sec status up then you go on vacation? Classic!
K1RTH G3RS3N Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.10.28 10:48:00 - [60] Originally by: Nexa Necis I spoke with K1rth last night, he agreed that TRAPS basically dismantled your alliance due to the pressure we put on it i say alot of things nexa... it isnt necessarily true... just trying to get some sort of reaction. im pretty sure even asked you to polish my armor but you wouldnt... just leaft me with an empty hole :( either way we dont keep records of our conversations or waste the time looking up the logs so we can load them into our epeens and launch them at the first sign of "our enemys" making a poste on the forums. but nexa, without a doubt your corporation is hands down god damn good it what they do... so, enjoy the game and take care :)
K1RTH G3RS3N Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.10.28 10:54:00 - [61] Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 28/10/2008 10:55:34 Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: Chapters Edited by: Chapters on 27/10/2008 16:39:16 YOU make me LOL. I can only conclude that you are so far up your own ego that you cant see straight, you seem to have completely missed my point in my last post... Ive said it before and i will say it again... YOU FAIL, GET A RL, and stop taking the game so SERIOUS! ITS A GAME FFS. But i guess for people like you that have no RL all you have is SMACK and stealing people forums post and for that i actually feel sorry for you... Just be carefull... one day RL will smack that ego right out of you... and it will leave a big hole... LOL.... AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT! EDIT: FYI.. i am going away for a few weeks. so please keep the war dec going... or at least resume it when i get back... Thanks.. Pretty standard response there. Threaten us, insult us, spout off incorrect information, insinuate we're liars, claim we're not affecting your alliance, then default to saying to get a life because it's only a intarweb spaceship game because that's the last resort at this point. You're telling me to get a real life, yet you're posting here asking for advice on how to win the interweb spaceships game? After all the hassle to ask about getting sec status up then you go on vacation? Classic! chapters works ridiculously long hrs and deserves a vacation when it becomes available for gods sake... the fact he got his sec status up as high as it is so far is impressive imo... and you cant blame him for looking for a bit of advice for making the process easier considering the limits on the time available for grinding rats >.<
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.10.28 16:54:00 - [62] B.itches please, shut the **** up
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.03 18:58:00 - [63] Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: ScaR97731 I love the whining in this forum. It is music to my soul. It just totally warms my heart knowing that CCP fixed the system so that if a scumbag pirate does the crime he has to do the time by having to EARN his way back to hi-sec, and this earning takes a LONG time. Meanwhile, the good and wholesome citizens of EVE can go on with business as usual hauling 9.2 billion worth of T2 modules around in a cheap T1 hauler KNOWING that the the usual suspects who are most likely to attack their hauler are currently down in low-sec playing the wildly popular game called "Don't drop the soap" with their other loser, pirate friends, and are unable to harass, or bother anyone in hi-sec with their nefarious intentions. I laughed long and hard reading some of the suggestions for the OP in this forum, and I am certain that other Carebears are laughing too. We are all laughing at the the Pirates. Do you hear it? We are laughing. Laughter I don't think the OP was even close to whining in the least. Reading your post will probably help non-pirate types understand why we like killing your kind so much. Sounds like someone had a hauler ganked, no? I got news for ya. You're quoting and talking to your very own pet Ki An in disguise ScaR97731 = Ki An = Maximillian Bayonette It's his same 'ole BS, just different toilet (ie, reverse psychology). Originally by: Ki An PS. You're full of vitrol and hate... You're socially inept... You're so completely impotent in game... spewing venom over everyone... ^^ One of my "fans"
SKINK0429 THE NDRANGHETA Monkey Religion	Posted - 2008.11.03 19:08:00 - [64] Im just doing this, quickest way is kill a BS rat per system then move on, you need enough systems to rat a bs in over a 15 min period, I do 5 systems but 3 would do. I have got down to -4.6 and tonight im doing the rest. Doing it this way without fast talk I seem to get about -.5 every 40mins or so. so in theory you could do it in a day if you can bare to rat that long! A frind just did -10 to -1.9 in 14 hrs with the fast talk book using this system. Have fun. Im not
MyGuyIn Rens	Posted - 2008.12.15 15:20:00 - [65] Originally by: SKINK0429 Im just doing this, quickest way is kill a BS rat per system then move on, you need enough systems to rat a bs in over a 15 min period, I do 5 systems but 3 would do. I have got down to -4.6 and tonight im doing the rest. Doing it this way without fast talk I seem to get about -.5 every 40mins or so. so in theory you could do it in a day if you can bare to rat that long! A frind just did -10 to -1.9 in 14 hrs with the fast talk book using this system. Have fun. Im not Is this session change related. Or do you have to shoot them all in different system? I mean could you just do with two and switch system every time you shoot a BS?
Grann Thefauto Minmatar Divine Insanity The Eden Project	Posted - 2008.12.16 01:30:00 - [66] Summary of thread: Go rat in 0.0, and Nexa wins. Time to move on now.
Amein Talier	Posted - 2008.12.16 07:39:00 - [67] Edited by: Amein Talier on 16/12/2008 07:39:56 Originally by: Nexa Necis Hehe, this post made my night. The member's of this alliance are all scrambling to grind sec status just to fight TRAPS? I feel honored. We engaged them three times tonight. We had a nice mash up the first time. We popped 2 Drakes and a Raven with no losses. We tried again a bit later and we lost a Myrm and Hurricane while popping an Abaddon, Punisher and Celestis. They had a ton of people showing up mid-fight that second round so we warped out and regrouped. In the 3rd encounter they had 6 Drakes, a Punisher, and an Abaddon. We popped the Abaddon, Punisher and 3 Drakes and suffered no losses. The best part was, minutes before that last fight they started smack talking in local. [ 2008.10.14 01:52:36 ] da teef > brothers grim who u at war with? [ 2008.10.14 01:53:12 ] Photonjunky > some weak named corp the awesome players or something Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield. Just a question, if we're so weak, why bother asking a silly question like "how to raise sec status so we can help our friends"? Surely you know you already outnumber us 5 to 1 easily? You really need more people to help? Also, it's kind of a silly question to even ask I would think since it's been asked a LOT in the forums and the answer is the same every time. You're a hardened -9.9 low sec player. You're going to grind up to -2.0 just for us? Hmmm....all that for a weak corp. Just seems a bit silly, no? Your post is irrelevant.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.16 08:25:00 - [68] Originally by: Chapters ok so 0.0 seems to be the best option... but is there a differance in what 0.0 you are in... my mate spent 8 solid hours today looking for BS rats and only went from -9 to 8.2 Venal. You just have to avoid the roaming gangs and some of the locals. But if you have friends, you'll be fine. anything close to a -1.0 true sec is great, and raises your chances of getting officer/faction spawns also. Jumping back and forth through 3 systems I made it from -7 to -4.5 in only a few hours last time I went for sec status. ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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