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Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:42:00 - [31] Originally by: Numadi Civirel Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln They wanted ISK which I delivered. They STILL pod'd me! This is why i wouldn't ever give ISK to pirates. Despite many of them being fairly ****ish, a pirate still needs a certain amount of honour and trust, people have to know they'll be let go if they give in to a pirate's demands, by going back on their word like that it only gives every pirate a bad reputation and makes people less likely to give them the ISK ransom they want, so in the end it's the pirates that lose out the most from that sort of practice. Can't blame people for this attitude with all the 'oh lols' 'give me your stuff' and 'hahahaha' morons in threads like these. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Zycorax II Zenryoo na Karasu Tamashii	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Ok. (1)I got pod'd yesterday. I'm 8 months on Eve and this aint the first time but (2)I want to complain. Is this the correct forum? I want everyone to know who these guys are so you can avoid them. I was ratting in .4 system and a guy enters. I called out to him (3)asking if he's a pirate (.23 sec stats). He says no - it's ok to rat. 1/2 hour ltr a badass shows up and the first guy and badass tackle me. (4)My 1 warp stab was not enough to bail out. Bolded what you did wrong and added an explanation. (1)Jeez, just spam the "warp" button when you enter structure. (2)Just live with it, ok? (3)Presume everyone is a potential pirate. (4)No, just no, and I'm sure everyone here would agree.
Dihania Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln I was ratting in .4 system and a guy enters. I called out to him asking if he's a pirate (.23 sec stats).becasue a pirate will tel you He is - lol He says no - it's ok to rat. 1/2 hour ltr a badass shows up and the first guy and badass tackle me.why not warp on first sign of trouble? My 1 warp stab was not enough to bail out. I surrendered. They wanted ISK which I delivered. They STILL pod'd me! this brings bad name to pirates, many pirates honor ransom, post here their names ...... Why aren't the good people out hunting the trash low-lifes so it has more equalibrium in EVE? they are week souce, yes they are. the few that are not carebear in 0.0 Also man, you should rat in safer palcer in low sec, like Tama or Old Man Star. Get your info correctly. [hrhr] Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
wdwjhdw	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln They wanted ISK which I delivered. They STILL pod'd me! Lesson learned hopefully.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 - [35] I don't think the OP is serious. He just HAS to be trolling. In case he isn't, post screenshots as proof, we don't want any idiots ruining the ransom business, now, do we? I mean, being daft is one thing, dishonoring a ransom agreement is whole different ballpark... but looking at the OP, everything is possible... maybe he payed and stayed around. So again, proof or stfu.
Karentaki Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:38:00 - [36] As much as the OP is a complete fool for believing pirates, I did do the same thing when I first went to lowsec when I was about 2 weeks old. I was flying around in my Vexor, saw 2 guys in local, one of whom I saw was a pirate (didn't check the other 1), so I sat at a safe spot. The pirate left, at which point the other guy pretended to be ratting and asked me to join him. I, being a noob, believed that he wasn't a pirate, and warped in to him... ... big flashy box on overview ... oops. Tackled, and soon I was in armour with a thorax and a bunch of hammerhead II's hitting me. I was just able to tank him so long as I kept him webbed (yes I was out looking for a fight), and put my drones on his to keep them out of the fight. He was slowly going down, but then his friend from before warped in and started blasting me from close range. I only had 1 web, no guns, and a couple of my drones were dead, so I couldn't do much at this point. I soon popped, got my pod out, and gave them both a 'good fight' in local. So yeah, that was my first, and by no means my last encounter with the local pirates in Everyshore region. Also, as everyone else has said, I suggest you post the names here - dishonouring ransoms is bad for business for all pirates - I'm sure they'll want to know who to blame for their reduced income. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.10.15 10:05:00 - [37] Come rat in Otou, because when I ransom you I'll honour it -- The Neo Spartans are currently recruiting. See our thread at Recruitment
MarleWH Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:40:00 - [38] Hot damn.
Frodon Antiloncker Roids'Are'Us	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Kaya Valda Come rat in Otou, because when I ransom you I'll honour it And sorry for my bad spelling :)
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:57:00 - [40] Posting in another betting and Garmon propoganda thread.
SystemaX1	Posted - 2008.10.15 16:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Ok. I got pod'd yesterday. I'm 8 months on Eve and this aint the first time but I want to complain. Is this the correct forum? I want everyone to know who these guys are so you can avoid them. I was ratting in .4 system and a guy enters. I called out to him asking if he's a pirate (.23 sec stats). He says no - it's ok to rat. 1/2 hour ltr a badass shows up and the first guy and badass tackle me. My 1 warp stab was not enough to bail out. I surrendered. They wanted ISK which I delivered. They STILL pod'd me! Ok I am not naive and will no longer trust anyone but I'm looking for retribution. I want everyone to know these guys are liars and cheats. I wnat to post their ID's so others will know. Can I do that here? Where else then? Why is there no place to complain when some one is a total a-hole? Where are the good people? Why aren't the good people out hunting the trash low-lifes so it has more equalibrium in EVE? In the world of eve there will be lots of systems full of liers and cheats. In the low sec and 0.0 systems that will say something and turn around and do another. If you see someone warp in where you are forget your cargo and just warp out. Your ship is more vaulable then your cargo. If they say we want isk and we will let you go never take that as a good sign if someone in a low sec system asks you for isk and you cannot warp away the only other option in that position is too figure out whichone is the weakest out of the two and target him first atleast try and fight back and take one of them out with you.
Bai ZongTong Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.10.16 01:53:00 - [42] why dont people rat in my system? :x btw, that ransom should be honored. --- Bai ZongTong, responsible for all the lossmails in my corp.
Kennedy Lincoln	Posted - 2008.10.17 19:05:00 - [43] To all of the complete morons replying here, there are ways to rat in lo-sec w/o problems. I've ratted for months on lo-sec after doing some homework and practicing a few guidelines of caution. THis was the first time I was flat-out lied to b4 and after being attacked. I beleived that a ransom was a way out and now I know it is not. I will from now on tell everyone, everywhere I go: NOT TO PAY ANY RANSOMES. EVER. Screw it. To all the babies out there afraid to rat lo-sec, because you think you know more than I - I had 120mil ISK after only 4 months on EVE w/o a Corp. Suk on that!
Eschiava Q Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.17 19:28:00 - [44] Obviously, to say, "without problems" is untrue. Else you would not have encountered any. Perhaps "few problems" would be more accurate? Hmmm?
Monkey Saturday Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve	Posted - 2008.10.18 20:06:00 - [45] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln To all the babies out there afraid to rat lo-sec, because you think you know more than I - I had 120mil ISK after only 4 months on EVE w/o a Corp. Suk on that! Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.10.18 20:11:00 - [46] Originally by: Numadi Civirel Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln They wanted ISK which I delivered. They STILL pod'd me! This is why i wouldn't ever give ISK to pirates. Despite many of them being fairly ****ish, a pirate still needs a certain amount of honour and trust, people have to know they'll be let go if they give in to a pirate's demands, by going back on their word like that it only gives every pirate a bad reputation and makes people less likely to give them the ISK ransom they want, so in the end it's the pirates that lose out the most from that sort of practice. I like posts like this that seem to make out they are really sticking one to the pirates by getting their ship blown up and podded. "Yes you blew up my hauler, took all its loot and have my pod locked down and are about to pod me BUT IM NOT PAYING A RANSOM HAHAHA WHOS THE VICTOR!!" SKUNK
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.18 21:15:00 - [47] The most dangerous pirates are sometimes the ones with High sec ratings... I heard "You're not a pirate why did you kill me!?!" quite a bit when I did have my sec fixed for a while. ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Clair Bear Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.10.18 22:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln I will from now on tell everyone, everywhere I go: NOT TO PAY ANY RANSOMES. EVER. Screw it. Anyone who reads this forum has run across stories of dishonored ransoms, and pretty much knows there are only a FEW rp-ish pirate corps worth 'trusting.' With everyone else take the ship loss and strive to be faster prey next time. Quote: To all the babies out there afraid to rat lo-sec, because you think you know more than I - I had 120mil ISK after only 4 months on EVE w/o a Corp. Suk on that! Oh, if we're comparing carebear e-peens then let me flop mine out. 500M in wallet + assets after my first month. 10B in my wallet + 2 trained alts funded by GTC + a few tens of B in assets after a year. Ratted once in .4 in a kestrel once while on trial. Lowsec is flyover country, not a destination.
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.18 23:32:00 - [49] As others have said in general you cannot trust pirates to honour ransom , but there are exceptions. As I see it never enter lowsec in something you dont intend to loose, be in an empty jumpclone and use a PvPfit for your ship , or at least a fit that allows you to escape(mwd , warp stabs etc) Ideally you should have a few cloaked recons waiting to back you up but for most of us that is not an option.
Speaker Dead	Posted - 2008.10.19 00:47:00 - [50] After 8 months you don't know any better? First you obviously knew .4 was dangerous, can you honestly say that you expected the truth from a possible pirate? 2nd, how the hell do you get podded in lowsec? Do you really not know that you can warp a pod almost instantly? In the future, pick a spot to warp too after you're sure you cant get away, and spam warp to on the overview, you don't lose your precious pod, and it ****es off the wannbe necros...
Hades In'aMiniskirt 30 ounces	Posted - 2008.10.19 01:21:00 - [51] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Ok. I got pod'd yesterday. I'm 8 months on Eve and this aint the first time but I want to complain. Is this the correct forum? I want everyone to know who these guys are so you can avoid them. I was ratting in .4 system ........ I called out to him asking if he's a pirate ....... They wanted ISK which I delivered. I bolded your mistakes
Hepziba	Posted - 2008.10.19 05:18:00 - [52] He said he wasn't a pirate, therefore he didn't have to follow and honor the pirate code (that all ~~demons~~ pirates have to live by).
zombu2 Caldari Isk Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.19 22:13:00 - [53] Originally by: Hepziba He said he wasn't a pirate, therefore he didn't have to follow and honor the pirate code (that all ~~demons~~ pirates have to live by). the code is more like a guideline
Precurseur Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.10.19 22:26:00 - [54] I'll just put this troll post over here with my other collections of troll posts. Keep em coming...
Kennedy Lincoln	Posted - 2008.11.17 03:55:00 - [55] Originally by: Eschiava Q Obviously, to say, "without problems" is untrue. Else you would not have encountered any. Perhaps "few problems" would be more accurate? Hmmm? Ugh. Ugh. and one more Ugh. You are one of the morons I spoke about. You are a child that did not even understand the cicumstance that I wrote. Please try and comprehend that your understanding of the world in general is extremely limited. Some day you will get this but it will take years.
Kennedy Lincoln	Posted - 2008.11.17 04:00:00 - [56] Originally by: Hades In'aMiniskirt Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Ok. I got pod'd yesterday. I'm 8 months on Eve and this aint the first time but I want to complain. Is this the correct forum? I want everyone to know who these guys are so you can avoid them. I was ratting in .4 system ........ I called out to him asking if he's a pirate ....... They wanted ISK which I delivered. I bolded your mistakes Well well well. You complete boob. The point of the whole discussion was whether a ransom was worthy of pyaing. If you are a pirate - tell all of your pirate ***s two things: 1) More and more people will not pay ransom because it is not honored and 2) I will hunt you and all of your low-life pirate *** freinds and pod you. Please copy down my name so you remember me so I can enjoy your loss of craft and ISK. I will enjoy it.
DJ Tim Chin Chinnery	Posted - 2008.11.17 04:06:00 - [57] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Originally by: Hades In'aMiniskirt Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln Ok. I got pod'd yesterday. I'm 8 months on Eve and this aint the first time but I want to complain. Is this the correct forum? I want everyone to know who these guys are so you can avoid them. I was ratting in .4 system ........ I called out to him asking if he's a pirate ....... They wanted ISK which I delivered. I bolded your mistakes Well well well. You complete boob. The point of the whole discussion was whether a ransom was worthy of pyaing. If you are a pirate - tell all of your pirate ***s two things: 1) More and more people will not pay ransom because it is not honored and 2) I will hunt you and all of your low-life pirate *** freinds and pod you. Please copy down my name so you remember me so I can enjoy your loss of craft and ISK. I will enjoy it. I bolded your mistakes etc.
Kennedy Lincoln	Posted - 2008.11.17 04:09:00 - [58] Originally by: Speaker Dead After 8 months you don't know any better? First you obviously knew .4 was dangerous, can you honestly say that you expected the truth from a possible pirate? 2nd, how the hell do you get podded in lowsec? Do you really not know that you can warp a pod almost instantly? In the future, pick a spot to warp too after you're sure you cant get away, and spam warp to on the overview, you don't lose your precious pod, and it ****es off the wannbe necros... Snore. You and all of you girls and boys of limited experince do not understand my rant. I KNEW WHERE I WAS. I KNEW the RISKS. Iunderstood the circumstance. I just thought that once you pay a ransome you are free. I was wrond this time. Guess what meathead? I heard from the ahole pirate a few days ago and he admitted he didn't know I paid the ransom because of confusion between to the two attackers. He paid the ransom back to me. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND HOW INSIGNIFICANT YOU ARE AND HOW UNIMPORTANT YOUR OPINION IS. Eventually you will either get this or remain a person that doesn't realize how often people are politely avoiding you in social circumstances.
DJ Tim Chin Chinnery	Posted - 2008.11.17 04:18:00 - [59] Originally by: Kennedy Lincoln SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND HOW INSIGNIFICANT THIS THREAD IS HOW UNIMPORTANT EVERYTHING I'VE SAID PRIOR IS. Yeh fix'd. Assuming basically your thread is based on the premise that pirates are evil and don't let you go when you pay the ransom, apart from it was a mistake, and he paid you back. Sorry where were you going with this? --~-- Don't Worry Baby, You Can Touch My Chin Anytime.
Nazlfrag III Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.17 05:55:00 - [60] Quote: Snore. You and all of you girls and boys of limited experince do not understand my rant. I KNEW WHERE I WAS. I KNEW the RISKS. Iunderstood the circumstance. I just thought that once you pay a ransome you are free. I was wrond this time. Guess what meathead? I heard from the ahole pirate a few days ago and he admitted he didn't know I paid the ransom because of confusion between to the two attackers. He paid the ransom back to me. So when are you going to edit your OP to reflect the fact that the pirate was indeed honourable and true to his word paid you back for an accidental podding. Are you also going to spread the word that pirates are true to their word and make good their mistakes even to a-holes like you? Are you going to apologise to the pirate community for calling them all cheats and liars? Are you going to try to resolve your disputes ingame first in the future before whining and *****ing like a little crybaby on the forums? I doubt it. Anyone who fits warp stabs on a lowsec combat ship would be far too cowardly to admit they made a mistake.

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