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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:02:00 -
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We got dec'd by some CVA alt/friendly corp called The Order of the Bloody Handed God. A three man corp with 2 active players and one alt placeholder it seems.
All they do is hang in Tash Murkon, on the wide dock range stations using trimarked passive stationbait ships. Sometimes they do login traps as well. They dec'd a few other corps around TMP too. Basically it looks like they're just griefing, which is funny because CVA are the people who like to protect others from griefers.
Anyways, they have us dec'd and all they do is cry in local about our tactics. They claim we blob. Apparently we're not allowed to field all of our online pilots against the 2 of them. Apparently that is lame. I mean, when we dec corps or get decd and we're outnumbered, we certainly aren't going to complain. It's sort of idiotic to dec a larger corp with 2 active players then sit and complain about blobs or people helping one another.
So the war is going on 2 weeks now and they got 1 kill using a login trap. No biggie. They've lost a few 3 or 4 Megathrons, an Ishtar, Vexor, Brutix and a Navy Mega and got one kill against a Hurricane of ours.
Tonight The Psyclone is in TMP asking my corpmate Sudoken for a 1vs1. I said don't do it. They can't be trusted. I said to do it out of system and off a station. Psyclone wanted it on a station only. Seems a bit fishy, no? I mean if you want a 1vs1 and you're confident it's going to be honored, then do it off a gate or station so you can be assured a kill.
Instead they agreed to do it at a planet. We stand by just in case. They go at it and Psyclone starts losing. He calls in Serenity Celestine to remote rep him in a Logistics ship.
See a screencap of it here.
My other corpmate shows up to chase the Oneiros off and pop goes Psyclone. Then the both of them have the nerve to cry in local. They call foul because my corpmate fitted for the fight. We had killed Pysclone enough to know his fittings so he fit appropriately. He engaged my guy before and he knew what he flew.
We never touched Psyclone or helped out our corpmate. It was a square fight and CVA once again are sore losers.
Onieros CVA Pilot > lol how pathetic. fitted for the fight Sudoken > i knew you werent going to honor Onieros CVA Pilot > ya cause you pull gay shit like this Onieros CVA Pilot > you guys are sad Nexa Necis > so now hes not allowed to fit? Nexa Necis > rofl Onieros CVA Pilot > pfft Onieros CVA Pilot > please Nexa Necis > indeed Sudoken > gf psyclone Dishonorer of 1vs1 > nah that was pretty gay dude Nexa Necis > yeah lord knows its stupid to fit em/therm tank when fighting amarr Nexa Necis > that would be stupid Insanus Marcus > thta's what hardeners are for Dishonorer of 1vs1 > people dont run arond fitting amarr specific hardeners in general pvp either Nexa Necis > it was a prearranged pvp Nexa Necis > people do fit specific them Nexa Necis > if not, then theyre not using every advantage Dishonorer of 1vs1 > keep justifying your pathetic corp Nexa Necis > oh please Dishonorer of 1vs1 > everyone sees the kind of quality you are Nexa Necis > youre decing random corps griefing, begging for 1vs1 and not honoring them
Anyone ever heard of this? I mean most people I know will fit to counter an opponent in a prearranged 1vs1. It's a smart tactic and definitely not a weak move. I've never heard of it complained about before.
I like how CVA is a RP corp but these guys like to toss out homophobic slurs and insults in local.
All in all a bunch of sore losing, smack talking griefers who cry when they lose and crow when they win. Don't trust any of these guys. They asked for a 1vs1 and got it on their terms and broke it.
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Vandamsel
Gallente Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Vandamsel on 13/10/2008 08:10:30 ...pathetic. |

SauliusV
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:12:00 -
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nothing wrong with fitting right hardeners :) all smart ppl do that. |

Towing Machine
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:12:00 -
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What did you expect? They are CVA after all! Everyone knows they suck.... |

Guillitene Fall
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:16:00 -
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Everyone knows you cant trust the alliance that is CVA. THey are fail, in every sense of the word.
Moar CVA tears plz :D |

OutOfTheBox Cyborg
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:29:00 -
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From what you say about them, I'm sure this post has got them laughing pretty hard and high fiving each other.
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Johnny Gurkha
Death Cult Covenant
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Posted - 2008.10.13 08:55:00 -
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Pre-arranged 1 v 1's suck mmmkay
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2008.10.13 09:28:00 -
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CVA arent so bad, but they have (and this is imo unavoidable) got some bad eggs lurking in the ranks.
The actions of a derisory minority speak for themselves really, thanks for bringing this up.
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Lavraen
Minmatar Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
I like how CVA is a RP corp but these guys like to toss out homophobic slurs and insults in local.
CVA really need to distance themselves from people like this.
I'm not wholly satisfied CVA "does what it says on the tin" to be honest.
Lavraen |

Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 10:32:00 -
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If CVA wants a reputation of honoring 1-v-1's, then they need to kick members who don't, and reimburse any losses that resulted from dishonored engagements (not required in this particular case). Simple really.
Your Money or Your Life: the journal of a space pirate
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Marchocias
Silent Ninja's Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 10:50:00 -
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Ok, so they don't honour 1vs1s... fair enough if they wish to do that, I suppose, although most people would regard them as cowards for it.
But to cry about you fitting your ship too well, when they have initiated the dec, initiated the 1vs1, blatantly dishonoured the 1vs1... well, that = fail.
"OMFG... I can't believe you fitting your ship out in a way that gives you some sort of advantage... you utter bastard!" ---- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*coughcough*aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr!! |

Loc Maythan
Gallente AlfaCorp
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias "OMFG... I can't believe you fitting your ship out in a way that gives you some sort of advantage... you utter bastard!"
Taking this to a logical extreme - "Not fair! You fitted a ship to your pod!" ;-)
Loc.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:14:00 -
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last time I agree'd to a 1v1 vs a CVA guy, I was in an arbitrator and he was in a hurricane, and was gang warped to an large tower that was pretty heavily armed, still got out tho, so I'm not surprised at all.
CVA are a pretty terrible alliance, massive blue list of carebears, CVA themselves were not bad a year or so back, but these days CVA is the cornerstone of a massive napfest with very little substance.
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:17:00 -
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My Experience with CVA has been that they honour their 1vs1's. Had a lot of interceptor duals with them and they have all gone smoothly. Someone from Sylph alliance dishonoured a 1vs1 with me once but a Sylph Director reimbursed my loss and gave him hell so it's all good. Send the forum link to this to a CVA diplomat or something and you might have some luck in getting him removed.
I've had a few duals dishonoured by residents of the Providence region, not any of the sov holders, but a few small alliances that reside there. See Here. And a few other small alliances around there in the past I do not recall.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.13 15:53:00 -
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CVA wont kick these people. Serenity evemailed a friend of mine who popped her super expensive faction Rattler.
Does of of this sound like RP smack talk? I think not!
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:41:00 -
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CVA's original honor and affidability has gone. Napfest and Idiots galore, taken to an extreme level. _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 |

MushMush
Minmatar Silent Ninja's Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:46:00 -
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Having had first hand experience of flying with TRAPS I can tell you all and specifically the CVA people referenced in Nexa's post if they are reading this that TRAPS always fight fair and always honour their word.
The reason they will always do this is twofold, firstly it annoys the hell out of you when you lose to them and secondly Nexa gets to demonstrate what a bunch of douche bags you are on eve-pirate
Keep at em TRAPS!
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:22:00 -
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Did Serenity sell his char at some point 
I used to fly with him in Prov and he was never one to smack talk like that before. That's a crappy evemail he sent you.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Liberty.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis CVA wont kick these people. Serenity evemailed a friend of mine who popped her super expensive faction Rattler.
Does of of this sound like RP smack talk? I think not!
you still pursuing this feud you have with serenity? this has been going on for... more than a year?
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AntonioBanderas
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.10.14 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis CVA wont kick these people. Serenity evemailed a friend of mine who popped her super expensive faction Rattler.
Does of of this sound like RP smack talk? I think not!
petition him. __________________________________________________ I can say ASS!!! And SHIT!!!! \o/
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.14 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Nexa Necis CVA wont kick these people. Serenity evemailed a friend of mine who popped her super expensive faction Rattler.
Does of of this sound like RP smack talk? I think not!
you still pursuing this feud you have with serenity? this has been going on for... more than a year?
Actually, no, I am not pursuing it. He is by having his alts/friends dec us, then beg us for 1vs1, then dishonor them by having Serenity not only participate in the dishonoring of it, but also smacking in local using homophobic slurs even though they are in CVA which to my understanding was a RP style alliance.
I'm just showing a pattern of play that is pretty poor and showing them to be the poor losers and sore winners that they are.
Keep in mind we never had any beef with Serenity or their friends. They dec'd us, they smack talked and complained constantly, win or lose. Obviously nothing has changed in the past year.
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Serenity Celestine
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:52:00 -
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Zomg another Half Truths Nexa post!!! Im ruined :( Ill enjoy watching this thread die off rather fast. First and last post, I thought I ought to say hi since it involves me and all . Nexa you are welcome for the bump . o7
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Vandamsel
Gallente Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Celestine Zomg another Half Truths Nexa post!!! Im ruined :( Ill enjoy watching this thread die off rather fast. First and last post, I thought I ought to say hi since it involves me and all . Nexa you are welcome for the bump . o7
Would you care to share with us the whole truth o great enlightened roleplayer?
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Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Celestine Zomg another Half Truths Nexa post!!! Im ruined :( Ill enjoy watching this thread die off rather fast. First and last post, I thought I ought to say hi since it involves me and all . Nexa you are welcome for the bump . o7
This is a pretty bad response to a thread that has quite a bit of evidence fingering you as an all around jerk. For an alliance that theoretically cares about their reputation CVA should be ashamed of you.
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Celestine Zomg another Half Truths Nexa post!!! Im ruined :( Ill enjoy watching this thread die off rather fast. First and last post, I thought I ought to say hi since it involves me and all . Nexa you are welcome for the bump . o7
Please give us the full story.
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Lugs Brannigan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:11:00 -
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Best thing to would be hold CVA accountable for the actions/words of its members. ie. Wardec CVA/Sylph/pets and form roaming 0.0 gangs to gank all the dumb 'neutral' carebear ratters these idiots invite into their space.
This should make an example of CVA and what happens to anyone who's associated with them in any way.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:12:00 -
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Don't even bother asking him. He posted the same crap in my stories on Eve-Pirate about when we fought his corp along with several others.
He claims everything I say is bullshit, as if all my screenshots are doctored and all the chat logs are false. He posts no proof and gives no specifics about how I am wrong.
He's a typical "anti-pirate" hypocrit. When he was in the corp Wrath of Khaine, they professed to be a anti-griefer protector corp, meanwhile they were quite public about who their alts were. Their alts were in The Space Borderline corp which was a can-flipping bunch of griefers in Tash.
So on one hand he was smacking us for playing that way, yet completely content with having alts of theirs doing the exact same thing.
So c'mon Serenity. Please explain. 
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Xoei LiaDemen
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:27:00 -
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I'm CVA, but I run missions in high sec 'cause I don't enjoy this kind of bullsh*t.
The corp that dec'd (this tiny 3 man waste of miners) had already started crap with the reds of the local low-sec area. I honestly believe they freaked 'cause they must have done something wrong to upset those reds... so they panic and try to join CVA, which works 'cause the whole cheesy RP mottos some of the dustier members will take to he grave with them held true.
CVA knew NOTHING about the war dec until we allowed them into the alliance.
They let that little greifer 3-man corp in and it set our channels on fire. It's the boy who cried wolf all over again, and who wouldn't freak out?! I'd grab an ax if I heard that kind of thing! It's human nature for f*ck's sake.
The damn mailbox wouldn't stop lighting up for a solid week of people asking what the f*ck was going on? Who's at war with what? What happened? No one gave straight answers and CVA gets a bad name for some heinous act of a lousy miner corp looking to turn a buck with CVA at their back.
Now that's some BS and that's why I stay out of it.
I'm only here now because TO ME, not my corp or alliance, to me this looks like propaganda and post-war mouth vomit from a few upset pilots.
90% of CVA tries (no promises!) to do their best and stick to the plan. But we're always ALWAYS going to hear about the worst of the 10% that pull this crap because it's so out of character and out of place. Even CVA makes mistakes with personnel =P there's a lot of room for it out there in EVE after all~
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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:20:00 -
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Xoei LiaDemen, if you really are a CVA you should know we dont allow alts to post on public forums.
Only main characters/CVA characters.
As the issue of smacktalk; Its not allowed in CVA either, be it on forums or local chat.
Any such incidents will be adressed with the person in question, as will breach of the 1 vs 1 code. |

Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Niding As the issue of smacktalk; Its not allowed in CVA either, be it on forums or local chat.
Any such incidents will be adressed with the person in question, as will breach of the 1 vs 1 code.
Yes yes yes. understood. Of Course, CVA will address these incidents. In private alliance quarters. Behind those closed doors. Tut tut.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Niding Xoei LiaDemen, if you really are a CVA you should know we dont allow alts to post on public forums.
Only main characters/CVA characters.
As the issue of smacktalk; Its not allowed in CVA either, be it on forums or local chat.
Any such incidents will be adressed with the person in question, as will breach of the 1 vs 1 code.
Good on ya bro. I suggest reading the story I linked. Say what you want about me or my corp but we don't pull this kind of stuff and we have honored every single agreement, surrender, ransom or 1vs1 we have ever done.
Actually 1 time we failed to honor a 1vs1 as a corpmate engaged not aware there was a pre-arranged 1vs1 occuring. They immediately apologized to the pilot, gave him his mods, gave him a new ship and more than enough ISK to cover the missing mods and insurance BEFORE the guy even had a chance to ask for it.
I have been killed by CVA a few times and never once have encountered any smack. They never even spoke really, but I was told that's because they are RP'er and such.
Serenity and his friends are the first people I've seen doing this so blatantly.
Too bad CVA still harbors tons of "CVA FRIENDLY!" corps that we dec for calling us ***s and ******s in local chat.
Xoei, aren't you in The Last Stand alliance? Your name seems really familiar.
What corp are you talking about in your post btw? I am a bit confused after reading it.
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Xoei LiaDemen
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.10.14 21:24:00 -
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Yeah you see how many edits I made? I confuse myself lol
Familiar, you say? Hmm... I'm a ghost for the most part, but this kind of thing upsets me and I get all moany and wail a bit here n' there~
We're not allowed a whole lot of communication privaledges. We have diplomats and older/wiser capsuleers to handle negotiations, so they tell me. I think it's a wiser choice for the most part... but it sucks when something needs to be said/done, meanwhile someone is taking it personally for every second that passes.
I'm agreed, I think these outbursts and rude communiques are the worst in our recent history and those pilots should get internal affair attention.
The coarse words hurt worse than the ISK damage done, honestly, and that's not gg at'all.
Sadly, I'm going to oblidge my superiors and won't say more on the topic.
Here's hoping you get to settle up proper! It always feels good to even the score~ Means we're all having fun!
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FarosWarrior
Amarr Sonnema
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Posted - 2008.10.14 21:32:00 -
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ones that do not honor 1v1 are the ones that give some pvpers a bad name
'he does is everyone does' some carebears think (carebear myself)
see you in tash-murkon prime nexa ;)
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.14 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xoei LiaDemen Yeah you see how many edits I made? I confuse myself lol
Familiar, you say? Hmm... I'm a ghost for the most part, but this kind of thing upsets me and I get all moany and wail a bit here n' there~
We're not allowed a whole lot of communication privaledges. We have diplomats and older/wiser capsuleers to handle negotiations, so they tell me. I think it's a wiser choice for the most part... but it sucks when something needs to be said/done, meanwhile someone is taking it personally for every second that passes.
I'm agreed, I think these outbursts and rude communiques are the worst in our recent history and those pilots should get internal affair attention.
The coarse words hurt worse than the ISK damage done, honestly, and that's not gg at'all.
Sadly, I'm going to oblidge my superiors and won't say more on the topic.
Here's hoping you get to settle up proper! It always feels good to even the score~ Means we're all having fun!
Well the corps I originally mentioned have nothing to do with what you were talking about. I think. I am still confused about your posting.
On a side note the corp that joined you that started our war against you were quite rude and foul in local and that's what got them dec'd.
Of course they started bragging and threatening us once they found out your alliance would shield them from us. I see some left Templars and joined with one of the established corps.
The other corp that the Templar people jumped to is currently dec'd as well and providing a wealth of pure comedy gold for my next story. 
Once again it shows that CVA, and CVA friendly alliances like your will harbor anyone who hasn't commited crimes against them, even when those same people are the ones acting like idiots in local, begging to be destroyed.
Then of course you get all the senseless deaths from it. It's been fun though killing you guys, especially the newbies you're recruiting daily. 
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Pezzle
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 04:13:00 -
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The CVA does not condone smack or the dishonoring of a 1 v 1 engagement. This specific incident is under review. As a long standing member I can tell you our policy is not one of deception. We do not encourage our members to engage in/interfere with 1v1 because of the troubles that arise.
Any inquiries or comments may be addressed towards myself or the CEO of the corp in question.
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Lavraen
Minmatar Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Niding Xoei LiaDemen, if you really are a CVA you should know we dont allow alts to post on public forums.
Only main characters/CVA characters.
As the issue of smacktalk; Its not allowed in CVA either, be it on forums or local chat.
Any such incidents will be adressed with the person in question, as will breach of the 1 vs 1 code.
Good on ya bro. I suggest reading the story I linked. Say what you want about me or my corp but we don't pull this kind of stuff and we have honored every single agreement, surrender, ransom or 1vs1 we have ever done.
Nexa and TRAPS always honour 1v1.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Liberty.
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:45:00 -
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Im as straight as an arrow, but I do frown on homobashing. It's sad and pathetic and I will petition any form of it on site.
As for CVA I know they are true to their word, but there will always be people that wonder of the path and make fool out of their alliance.
I hope CVA makes it clear to the involved pilots that they have soiled (yes it allready happened) CVA's reputation.
On the other hand... Nexa you big baby, you could have gone to Aralis or Ramruqai personally and they would have straightened this out im sure. You chose to go public because you love the attention. Now stop whining about it on here and adress this in a proffesional way if you are really serious.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.15 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123 Im as straight as an arrow, but I do frown on homobashing. It's sad and pathetic and I will petition any form of it on site.
As for CVA I know they are true to their word, but there will always be people that wonder of the path and make fool out of their alliance.
I hope CVA makes it clear to the involved pilots that they have soiled (yes it allready happened) CVA's reputation.
On the other hand... Nexa you big baby, you could have gone to Aralis or Ramruqai personally and they would have straightened this out im sure. You chose to go public because you love the attention. Now stop whining about it on here and adress this in a proffesional way if you are really serious.
Unfortunately, people like you are why I don't bother going to their diplos. All I ever get back is, "Those screenshots and chatlogs are faked, obviously. You're a pirate griefer and a shithead." So I generally don't bother.
I chose to go public because that's what C&P is about. You can name and shame here. It's fun and usually entertaining and tends to generate a lot of insults from people I've never dealt with, such as yourself. 
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.15 14:05:00 -
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oh god. is nexa necis being "griefed" again?  
you're a self-proclaimed "successful" and rather proud griefer and yet when you're griefed you just have to come whine to the forums about it. another case of a griefer being griefed and complaining about it. just wow. this is why i love griefer tears . they taste sweet.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.10.15 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye oh god. is nexa necis being "griefed" again?  
you're a self-proclaimed "successful" and rather proud griefer and yet when you're griefed you just have to come whine to the forums about it. another case of a griefer being griefed and complaining about it. just wow. this is why i love griefer tears . they taste sweet.
Way to misread the entire thread Matrix. There is a response from CVA, and they will look into the matter.
The only tears you will taste are the ones rolling down your own cheeks as you cry yourself asleep alone again 
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.15 14:20:00 -
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lets see:
nexa whines on how his corp was wardecced by "griefers" on his op. you dont find that even a little ironic? 
or rather you choose to oversee that fact :P threads like these are what makes c&p so entertaining. the hipocrisy and tears by the very same griefers is what makes this forum game so great \o/ keep em coming please
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.15 15:40:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Matrix Skye lets see:
nexa whines on how his corp was wardecced by "griefers" on his op. you dont find that even a little ironic? 
or rather you choose to oversee that fact :P threads like these are what makes c&p so entertaining. the hipocrisy and tears by the very same griefers is what makes this forum game so great \o/ keep em coming please
I could have posted, "Yay I scored 10bil ISK!" and you would say it was a whine. There's nothing about whining at all altboy.
I talked to the corp that dec'd us last night, they provided lots of laughs because once again they made absolutely no sense and completely contradicted themselves.
Keep on drinking that Hatorade and posting with alts. Good times!
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Ga'len
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.10.15 16:04:00 -
[43]
/emote grabs popcorn....
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:50:00 -
[44]
Hypocripsy is the #2 rule of eve 
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.16 14:25:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Matrix Skye OMGEMORAGE!!!:smiley:
How can someone be so hateful over a computer game?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.16 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Matrix Skye OMGEMORAGE!!!:smiley:
How can someone be so hateful over a computer game?
wait:
1 - maximillian bayonette = ki-an, amirite? 2 - ki-an = nexa necis pet, amirite? 3 - ki-an hates... no, ki-an loathes teh bearz0 with all hiz hart!!1!, amirite?
and you're preaching about hate?  
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.16 16:23:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Matrix Skye moreemorageOMG!!!:smiley::smiley:
I'm sure Nexa didn't mean to surprise sex your main's butt. Would a hug help?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.16 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
I'm sure Nexa didn't mean to surprise sex your main's butt. Would a hug help?
oooh, i bet youd like that wouldntcha :P surprise-sex me so you can feel all manly n stuff IRL, amirite?
oh but... is just a game aintit.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 20:46:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Matrix Skye .
Look pa, it's an alt!!
Guess who this alt belongs to? ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.17 08:32:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Matrix Skye EMORAGEjustagame
No smileys this time?
Originally by: MenanceWhite Look pa, it's an alt!!
Guess who this alt belongs to?
Do tell.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:56:00 -
[51]
hey ki an i see you still love to crap brown-nose all over nexa necis threads. finally got permission to do it at will i see <== smiley just for you
haha
nexa necis is a griefer who calls griefers that grief him "griefers" (its on the op, first page).
ki an (maximilian bayowhatever) cant understand how someone can hate players in a game all the while he himself hate teh karebearz with every ounce of his body.
hipocrisy baby! you both are meant for each other.
and why did you leave TRAPS anyway since you still seem to be so in luv with nexa and TRAPS? irreconsilable differences? 
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tripodbilly
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:04:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Matrix Skye hey ki an i see you still love to crap brown-nose all over nexa necis threads. finally got permission to do it at will i see <== smiley just for you
haha
nexa necis is a griefer who calls griefers that grief him "griefers" (its on the op, first page).
ki an (maximilian bayowhatever) cant understand how someone can hate players in a game all the while he himself hate teh karebearz with every ounce of his body.
hipocrisy baby! you both are meant for each other.
and why did you leave TRAPS anyway since you still seem to be so in luv with nexa and TRAPS? irreconsilable differences? 
Troll bear Trolling
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:14:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 12:16:26 i admit i grief griefers and luv it. whats your point :) atleast im not a hipocrit about it :P
oooh, and you called me a troll "bear", which prolly means you hate teh bearz too hows that workin out for ya... hatin' me and stuff?
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tripodbilly
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:22:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 12:16:26 i admit i grief griefers and luv it. whats your point :) atleast im not a hipocrit about it :P
oooh, and you called me a troll "bear", which prolly means you hate teh bearz too hows that workin out for ya... hatin' me and stuff?
spits bait out
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:00:00 -
[55]
Nexa wasn't complaining about being griefed or someone griefing him/her. He/she was describing their activities.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:03:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 13:04:53
Originally by: Suitonia Nexa wasn't complaining about being griefed or someone griefing him/her. He/she was describing their activities.
Originally by: nexa necis in op Basically it looks like they're just griefing, which is funny because CVA are the people who like to protect others from griefers.
 did you read the op or just went straight to take the bullet for poor 'ol griefee nexa?
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:18:00 -
[57]
 Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 14:34:38
Originally by: Suitonia Nexa wasn't complaining about being griefed or someone griefing him/her. He/she was describing their activities.
stay away from law. youd make a terrible defense attorney. here, nice and yellow for ya:
Originally by: nexa necis in op ...Basically it looks like they're just griefing, which is funny because CVA are the people who like to protect others from griefers...
...Nexa Necis > youre decing random corps griefing, begging for 1vs1 and not honoring them...
...All in all a bunch of sore losing, smack talking griefers...
 did ya read the op or just went straight to take the bullet for poor 'ol griefee nexa? HINT: READ DA OP.
dis is y c&p is AWESUM!! the hipocrisy of all teh griefers whining about how teh bearz are touching them inappropriately in private places \o/ you stick for each other like flies on sh..t. i'll give ya dat... even if it risks exposing your hipcrisy.
r we playin yet? 
ah and yes, nexa does have a way of twisting events to his advantage including his whines. he's known for dis. nuthin new there.
Altboy, you need to learn to read.
A whine would be, "These guys decd us and are griefing us! NOT FAIR! Why does CPP allow this! WTF!"
I said the group that dec'd us are griefers. It's a statement. Not a complaint. I called them griefers. Again, no complaints, just stating a fact and describing what they're doing. It would be a bit silly for me to complain about "griefing" since I am a long time "griefer" myself.
You're whining about me being a whiner then by your logic. You're whining that I am a griefer, which again means you're whining by your definition.
Reading is one thing, comprehension is another. You posses the ability for the former, not the latter.
Keep on posting and contribute nothing to any thread you crap in. All I know is, at some point I ****ed you off and hurt your gaming at some point. You're just another person in a long line of Nexa haters.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:42:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 16:44:29 dont flatter yourself naxa boy. as much as you and ki an would like it to be true weve only crossed paths here. just so happens your whine was on top in c&p and i decided to call you out once again on your hipocrisy. you just happen to be one of my victims today. nothin personal. you grief in game i grief in here. you grief carebears. i grief griefers. see? we're really the same you and i :) except i dont pretend to be anything else or try to justify what i do as you do. its called hipocrisy and i'm calling you out for what it is.
you know very well yours is a whine. you know the game well. you do it with your own "pirate" stories. you twist them to your liking. and you know that posting a whine in c&p without masking it as something else will have people callin you out on your hipocrisy strait out. so you mask them as something else. its what you do best. still i'm calling you out just because as i said... i luv me some griefer tearz as luv them bearz tearz  |

Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:53:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 16:46:02 dont flatter yourself naxa boy. as much as you and ki an would like it to be true weve only crossed paths here. just so happens your whine was on top in c&p and i decided to call you out once again on your hipocrisy. you just happen to be one of my victims today. nothin personal. you grief in game i grief in here. you grief carebears. i grief griefers. see? we're really the same you and i :) except i dont pretend to be anything else or try to justify what i do as you do. its called hipocrisy and i'm calling you out for what it is.
you know very well yours is a whine. you know the game well. you do it with your own "pirate" stories. you twist them to your liking. and you know that posting a whine in c&p without masking it as something else will have people callin you out on your hipocrisy strait out. so you mask them as something else. its what you do best. still i'm calling you out just because as i said... i luv me some griefer tearz as u luv them bearz tearz 
You have won the war of forum whining but have lost the war on literacy. Congrats!
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:57:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 16:59:29 NO U!
why dont you go make up a pirate story on it 
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:17:00 -
[61]
Everyone dishonors 1 vs 1 these days - seen -A-, Goodfellas and other simmilar "uber 1337sauce PeeVeePeeers" do that all the time. So I see nothing surprising that CVA do that as well. I especially like the excuse - "YOU ARE A PIRATE, THEREFORE YOU DON'T DESERVE A HOUNORABLE APPROACH!!!1".
Main thing is tho, that everyone growls about being blobbed in pre-aranged 1 vs 1 while doing it themselves when ***** hit the fan. 
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.18 07:32:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Matrix Skye dont flatter yourself naxa boy. as much as you and ki an would like it to be true weve only crossed paths here.
It's one of three options, basically:
1. You've been owned in game by TRAPS at some point. (Most likely option given the similarities between your vitrol filled hate posting and those of other previous TRAPS customers.)
2. You've been owned by another pirate/merc corp and now feel the need to vent your frustration at successful Eve players like Nexa and me.
3. You're socially inept and just like to hatepost for no reason.
Either way, your posts are hilarious and you should never ever stop posting.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:35:00 -
[63]
i'll take number 3 for $1200, Alex 
coincidentally id like to ask you and only you my dear ki an,
why is it when teh eevil karebear griefs you he must be socially inept in real life, but when you do teh griefing or vitrol-filled hatred it has no social connections on your real life, ie, teh karebear is socially inept in real life, but for teh online griefer and karebear loather (such as you and your master, nexa) it doesnt make them losers in real life?
please do entertain my question... i'll assume it has nothing to do with H-I-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y for the time being 
take your time... this ones a tuffy :)
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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:10:00 -
[64]
Wow, you pirates sure are morons.
*backs out of c&p slowly*
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:26:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Matrix Skye i'll take number 3 for $1200, Alex 
coincidentally id like to ask you and only you my dear ki an,
why is it when teh eevil karebear griefs you he must be socially inept in real life, but when you do teh griefing or vitrol-filled hatred it has no social connections on your real life, ie, teh karebear is socially inept in real life, but for teh online griefer and karebear loather (such as you and your master, nexa) it doesnt make them losers in real life?
please do entertain my question... i'll assume it has nothing to do with H-I-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y for the time being 
take your time... this ones a tuffy :)
No, that's not a tough question at all. It's an erroneously posed question. I never call anyone griefing me socially inept. You have deluded yourself into thinking you're griefing anyone here on the forums. You're not. You are providing entertainment for a slow day at work, but that's all.
You're funny because you're so completely impotent in game that you feel the need to go on vitrol filled angst-ridden postathrons here on the forums, spewing venom over everyone who's wronged you. Reading any of your posts is like watching this.
Funneh but sad.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.19 15:17:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette You're funny because you're so completely impotent in game that you feel the need to go on vitrol filled angst-ridden postathrons here on the forums, spewing venom over everyone who's wronged you. Reading any of your posts is like watching this.
Funneh but sad.
and another hate post for me... yay \o/ you long for the hate mails... i long for this. thanks 
and i luv the way you accuse me of posting "vitrol filled angst-ridden postathrons" but fail to see your own posts of hate for teh bears as the same. my mission with you atleast has been accomplished. im showing you for who you really are, mr ki an. good day sir o/
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supr3m3justic3
Caldari Hakata Group Blade.
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Posted - 2008.10.19 15:57:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Towing Machine What did you expect? They are CVA after all! Everyone knows they suck....
/this ____
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FoulBeast
Gallente Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:15:00 -
[68]
This thread is now a Nexa v Altguy thread
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Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2008.10.19 22:13:00 -
[69]
Originally by: FoulBeast This thread is now a Nexa v Altguy thread
Has it ever not been an Alt? They are afraid to post with their mains.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.19 22:19:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 19/10/2008 22:25:42
Originally by: Dire Radiant
Has it ever not been an Alt? They are afraid to post with their mains.
ORLY? yet "mains" crap-post all the time knowing well they don't have to face RL consequences. for example, go ahead and shit post something. then post your real name and address or phone number :). what, too afraid of the consequences it might bring? :)
show me you're not a coward. dont be a a hipocrite either. i mean, you do believe what you say, dontcha? show me you're not afraid to post with your REAL main . or did you mean you'd like me to post with my fake "real" main? 
cowards and hipocrites calling me a coward is the reason i do what i do. its fun dontcha see? 
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.19 23:07:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
ORLY? yet "mains" crap-post all the time knowing well they don't have to face RL consequences. for example, go ahead and shit post something. then post your real name and address or phone number :). what, too afraid of the consequences it might bring? :)
show me you're not a coward. dont be a a hipocrite either. i mean, you do believe what you say, dontcha? show me you're not afraid to post with your REAL main . or did you mean you'd like me to post with my fake "real" main? 
cowards and hipocrites calling me a coward is the reason i do what i do. its fun dontcha see? 
There's a difference between manning up and accepting ingame consequences for being a douchbag on the forums and being a moron (like you) and giving someone who has already demonstrated his inability to separate game from reality access to RL information. It's not hypocritical. It's just smart internet behaviour.
However, you are free to post your own RL information. I'm more interested in knowing who your main is, though, but as we already know, you're too chicken shit to reveal it.
PS. You're full of vitrol and hate. I roleplay a pirate. The two are fundamentally different. Try actually doing some thinking some day. Might not hurt too much.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.19 23:34:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Matrix Skye
ORLY? yet "mains" crap-post all the time knowing well they don't have to face RL consequences. for example, go ahead and shit post something. then post your real name and address or phone number :). what, too afraid of the consequences it might bring? :)
show me you're not a coward. dont be a a hipocrite either. i mean, you do believe what you say, dontcha? show me you're not afraid to post with your REAL main . or did you mean you'd like me to post with my fake "real" main? 
cowards and hipocrites calling me a coward is the reason i do what i do. its fun dontcha see? 
There's a difference between manning up and accepting ingame consequences for being a douchbag on the forums and being a moron (like you) and giving someone who has already demonstrated his inability to separate game from reality access to RL information. It's not hypocritical. It's just smart internet behaviour.
However, you are free to post your own RL information. I'm more interested in knowing who your main is, though, but as we already know, you're too chicken shit to reveal it.
PS. You're full of vitrol and hate. I roleplay a pirate. The two are fundamentally different. Try actually doing some thinking some day. Might not hurt too much.
Yeah but why take that chance when he could celebrate getting you to make another post instead?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.19 23:46:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
There's a difference between manning up and accepting ingame consequences for being a douchbag on the forums and being a moron (like you) and giving someone who has already demonstrated his inability to separate game from reality access to RL information. It's not hypocritical. It's just smart internet behaviour.
However, you are free to post your own RL information. I'm more interested in knowing who your main is, though, but as we already know, you're too chicken shit to reveal it.
PS. You're full of vitrol and hate. I roleplay a pirate. The two are fundamentally different. Try actually doing some thinking some day. Might not hurt too much.
so wait. if i dont reveal my ingame main does that make a chicken shit in real life or in real game life, or fake life game or all the above? ooh my head hurts 
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Vikarion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.20 01:56:00 -
[74]
I honor 1v1s...it's why I just quit my corp...they didn't want to. Sorry to hear about it Nexa, but I don't trust CVA or their little carebear buddies any further than I can throw an elephant.
Of course, the best part is when they dishonor a 1v1 and you beat them anyway. I've had that happen before, and it is sweet.  --------
EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG*
*Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 9/3/2008
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CCP Applebabe

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Posted - 2008.10.20 07:06:00 -
[75]
Please discuss constructively and stay on topic.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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MushMush
Minmatar Silent Ninja's Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.20 11:42:00 -
[76]
Well I have read through the entire thread. Started well but like most C&P topics its gone west...
Matrix Skye, two things.
Firstly are you deliberately mis-spelling HYPOCRISY? I would like to think you are, please for the love of all things English tell me you are! Secondly and to be quite frank I am amazed we are into page three and no-one has said it 
Post with your main or STFU. All your comments whether I agree with them or not are worthless coming from an alt. If you believe you have a valid argument to counter Nexa or that he/she is in fact a 'hypocrite' then you should not live in alt fear.
Just my 2p's worth...although as I just posted with my main that is a whole 2p more than you 
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Calishere
Caldari The Space BorderLine
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:00:00 -
[77]
Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Originally by: Towing Machine What did you expect? They are CVA after all! Everyone knows they suck....
/this
this. CVA have to blob to succeed at anything... 1 red in ymp = 7 cva.... 5 reds in ymp = 30-40 cva .. 6 reds = 30-40 + wyvern + chimera .... 10 reds.. they stay docked in 9uy :)
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:25:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 20/10/2008 16:25:11
Originally by: Calishere this. CVA have to blob to succeed at anything... 1 red in ymp = 7 cva.... 5 reds in ymp = 30-40 cva .. 6 reds = 30-40 + wyvern + chimera .... 10 reds.. they stay docked in 9uy :)
sounds like they're doing it right, tbfh. they fight on their terms, not yours. don't like it you can go find another target or go home.
Originally by: Ki An PS. You're full of vitrol and hate.
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Mithos Victus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.20 17:19:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Calishere
Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Originally by: Towing Machine What did you expect? They are CVA after all! Everyone knows they suck....
/this
this. CVA have to blob to succeed at anything... 1 red in ymp = 7 cva.... 5 reds in ymp = 30-40 cva .. 6 reds = 30-40 + wyvern + chimera .... 10 reds.. they stay docked in 9uy :)
Wrong on more than one account, including the premise, assumption, and conclusion. But it is not my place to say, so I will keep my mouth shut.
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Metal Machine
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Posted - 2008.10.20 20:02:00 -
[80]
CVA - Piracy dressed up as policing.
I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes |

Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.10.20 22:42:00 -
[81]
Often the most fun part of 1vs1 is the guessing game "is he going to screw me over or not". 
So you analyze their nicknames, the amount of numbers in them, if the starting letters are capital or no, their corp history, corp descritpion, bio... true detective work tbh. 
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Karad Forsky
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.21 00:24:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Calishere
Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Originally by: Towing Machine What did you expect? They are CVA after all! Everyone knows they suck....
/this
this. CVA have to blob to succeed at anything... 1 red in ymp = 7 cva.... 5 reds in ymp = 30-40 cva .. 6 reds = 30-40 + wyvern + chimera .... 10 reds.. they stay docked in 9uy :)
Welcome to Eve Online.
Here is how it works in 0.0. People watch their intel channels and when a hostile is reported, they come over to gank it. They may not even be in gang. But if you think that when 50 people see a hostile reported that they will just assign 1 to go give you a good fight, you're clearly not thinking straight.
They must be doing something right to have a fanclub this numerous though
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.21 04:14:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Calishere CVA have to blob to succeed at anything.
It's true. We're pretty horrible at pvp in general. Still aspiring to be good enough to gank solo npcers in packs of nanoships, really. Until then, we'll just have to be content to kill those who do.
Damn the luck.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.10.21 04:50:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Calishere
this. CVA have to blob to succeed at anything... 1 red in ymp = 7 cva.... 5 reds in ymp = 30-40 cva .. 6 reds = 30-40 + wyvern + chimera .... 10 reds.. they stay docked in 9uy :)
And this is bad? This is a recipe for fun with a force recon gang. Jump in, safe and yell "YARRRRRRRR!" in local. Then go to see a movie or something.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
If ignored gank a belt drake spawn or ten to keep things fresh.
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FoulBeast
Gallente Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.21 11:12:00 -
[85]
Alot of members from CVA would suck being that they let in anyone into their space (regarded they ain't red)
There is some good PvP'rs in their ranks, not meny but there is some.
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Kaileen Starsong
Amarr Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.21 11:30:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Vrabac Often the most fun part of 1vs1 is the guessing game "is he going to screw me over or not". 
So you analyze their nicknames, the amount of numbers in them, if the starting letters are capital or no, their corp history, corp descritpion, bio... true detective work tbh. 
 You kinda hit the spot, tbh.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.21 13:37:00 -
[87]
Surprised with CVA regarding this... 
It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |

Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.21 15:42:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Verone Surprised with CVA regarding this... 
It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.
I'd be amazed if they did anything to any of the participants. Serenity has been like this since the day they dec'd us. You can see from my story they participate in homophobic smack talk against others as well.
All the while with other CVA in local with them and whatnot and none of them seemed to care.
If you read the story I linked you can see them admitting to keeping alts that stay in griefer type corps who work in direct conjunction with CVA corps to war dec, harass and pass intel. None of which is very RP'ish in the least.
All that will come out of it is Serenity will be more careful who they email such smack to and they will probably not post in any of my threads.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.21 16:24:00 -
[89]
One CVA pilot stepped out of line with CVA policy (ie honoring 1v1s, immature behavior in local/eve mail/etc) and that CVA pilot was spoken to about this. I don't know the details of the conversation, because frankly it's not a lot of my business. I do know that the behavior as presented was unnacceptable by CVA standards.
That's obviously not good enough for most of the audience here, and that's fine as most of the audience here has every interest in disliking CVA anyway.
As for the corporations that shoot at/are shot at by TRAPS...their behavior is not a major concern for us nor a controllable factor by us. CVA isn't concerned with personal grudges in a video game.
TRAPS are pirates (self-acknowledged), CVA shoots at pirates...that's the high and the low of it. It keeps things simple.
We're not the moral police of Eve...we're just a player organization like anyone else. We don't cast judgement on pirates as players and attack them for those reasons, we merely have an established in-game roleplay identity of fighting pirates. Likewise we don't cast judgement on the folks we "defend." If an organization is making homophobic insults etc...that's just not an issue one way or another. If that organization does not pirate, we will not shoot at them. If that same organization is a victim of pirates, we will protect them. The circumstances surrounding the conflict (the personal grudges reflected through foul language and insults in particular) are of no interest.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.21 17:57:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Garreck As for the corporations that shoot at/are shot at by TRAPS...their behavior is not a major concern for us nor a controllable factor by us. CVA isn't concerned with personal grudges in a video game.
All of what you said is true and I wouldn't argue any of it. The only part that is somewhat untrue is the part I quoted.
If you have a CVA person admitting they have alts in griefer-type or piracy corps that dec us and work in conjunction with the CVA corp, then it would sort of be controllable.
It's still a bit of a grey area though. I just found it funny Serenity would say, "TRAPS are *ags who can't take on any real corps. All you do is grief weak corps, therefore you suck and are just as weak. CVA is the best, most honorable and stand-up operations out there." Then you ask why their alts are in griefer corps they say, "So what? We don't like that they're in griefer corps but it's ok because they help us and we help them."
You can't condemn someone's play style then basically condone it because you're alt's do it. That's just me. It sends out mixed signals.
Honestly I have never had any issues with CVA proper as a whole. Just Serenity and their corp when they dec'd us. I understand you can't be the moral police of Eve, but at the same time you must understand it does affect the reputation of CVA.
Out of the last 10 corps we dec'd for smack talking, every single one of them had "CVA FRIENDLY" in their corp bio and most all of them ran to Providence to hide when Empire was too hot to handle, banking on CVA's blanket coverage of assistance to all "anti-pirates".
I can see why so many people think bad of CVA even though they have limited interaction with actual CVA corps. It's the user crowd that's bringing the CVA name into the mud.
Again, as you said, you can't control it, and CVA has no interest in dealing with it just to keep it all simple. It just comes with the territory.
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Fubarmofo
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Posted - 2008.10.22 15:35:00 -
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I can't believe I have read through all of this. Some of you guys need to get out more and have a real life. Unfortunately though, by being so engrossed, I fear I'm turning into one of the above. Someone help me...
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Feilamya
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.10.22 17:17:00 -
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Another name&shame thread which shows that the good guys are not CVA, not pirates who honor ransoms, not soloers who honor 1vs1, not carebears and not Chribba.
The good guys are those people you don't hear about.
Because they are boring.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.10.22 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 22/10/2008 19:04:13
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Niding Xoei LiaDemen, if you really are a CVA you should know we dont allow alts to post on public forums.
Only main characters/CVA characters.
As the issue of smacktalk; Its not allowed in CVA either, be it on forums or local chat.
Any such incidents will be adressed with the person in question, as will breach of the 1 vs 1 code.
Good on ya bro. I suggest reading the story I linked. Say what you want about me or my corp but we don't pull this kind of stuff and we have honored every single agreement, surrender, ransom or 1vs1 we have ever done.
Actually 1 time we failed to honor a 1vs1 as a corpmate engaged not aware there was a pre-arranged 1vs1 occuring. They immediately apologized to the pilot, gave him his mods, gave him a new ship and more than enough ISK to cover the missing mods and insurance BEFORE the guy even had a chance to ask for it.
I have been killed by CVA a few times and never once have encountered any smack. They never even spoke really, but I was told that's because they are RP'er and such.
Serenity and his friends are the first people I've seen doing this so blatantly.
Too bad CVA still harbors tons of "CVA FRIENDLY!" corps that we dec for calling us ***s and ******s in local chat.
Xoei, aren't you in The Last Stand alliance? Your name seems really familiar.
What corp are you talking about in your post btw? I am a bit confused after reading it.
I loled, we all no TARPS scam, exploit, cheat, gank smack and grief... GG.. not really And lastly dont forget to check out the link in my signature..
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play |

Ji Sama
Caldari Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.10.22 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
 Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 17/10/2008 14:34:38
Originally by: Suitonia Nexa wasn't complaining about being griefed or someone griefing him/her. He/she was describing their activities.
stay away from law. youd make a terrible defense attorney. here, nice and yellow for ya:
Originally by: nexa necis in op ...Basically it looks like they're just griefing, which is funny because CVA are the people who like to protect others from griefers...
...Nexa Necis > youre decing random corps griefing, begging for 1vs1 and not honoring them...
...All in all a bunch of sore losing, smack talking griefers...
 did ya read the op or just went straight to take the bullet for poor 'ol griefee nexa? HINT: READ DA OP.
dis is y c&p is AWESUM!! the hipocrisy of all teh griefers whining about how teh bearz are touching them inappropriately in private places \o/ you stick for each other like flies on sh..t. i'll give ya dat... even if it risks exposing your hipcrisy.
r we playin yet? 
ah and yes, nexa does have a way of twisting events to his advantage including his whines. he's known for dis. nuthin new there.
Altboy, you need to learn to read.
A whine would be, "These guys decd us and are griefing us! NOT FAIR! Why does CPP allow this! WTF!"
I said the group that dec'd us are griefers. It's a statement. Not a complaint. I called them griefers. Again, no complaints, just stating a fact and describing what they're doing. It would be a bit silly for me to complain about "griefing" since I am a long time "griefer" myself.
You're whining about me being a whiner then by your logic. You're whining that I am a griefer, which again means you're whining by your definition.
Reading is one thing, comprehension is another. You posses the ability for the former, not the latter.
Keep on posting and contribute nothing to any thread you crap in. All I know is, at some point I ****ed you off and hurt your gaming at some point. You're just another person in a long line of Nexa haters.
Nah your whining, and your good at it to... And lastly dont forget to check out the link in my signature..
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play |

Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens
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Posted - 2008.10.22 20:07:00 -
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Seriously, what makes you believe that CVA was behind this? I've talked extensively with CVA ppl and they never act like this.
Your post fails as your trying to blame the entire alliance for the actions of 1 corp.
Try again....not
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ASGS is recruiting pilots! |

Phi Doe
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Posted - 2008.10.22 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Phi Doe on 22/10/2008 21:06:34
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Seriously, what makes you believe that CVA was behind this? I've talked extensively with CVA ppl and they never act like this.
Your post fails as your trying to blame the entire alliance for the actions of 1 corp.
Try again....not
--Isaac
lol if you're used to reading nexa's diatribes that's par for the course. Blame the many for the actions of a few. Of couse he usually goes on to lecture how leadership needs to vet its recruits and 'police' its members. Thats easier said than done in a game where most have multiple accounts/alts where you really don't know whos sitting on the other side of the screen a lot of the time.
tbh nexa is pleased that this thread is being bumped to the top all the time by replies, at the end of the day he's just an attention-*****. Best if you deprive him of what he seeks by not replying to this thread anymore.

btw, I do realise the irony of recommending the above whilst bumping his thread myself, before any smart ass points that out 
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.22 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Phi Doe Edited by: Phi Doe on 22/10/2008 21:06:34
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Seriously, what makes you believe that CVA was behind this? I've talked extensively with CVA ppl and they never act like this.
Your post fails as your trying to blame the entire alliance for the actions of 1 corp.
Try again....not
--Isaac
lol if you're used to reading nexa's diatribes that's par for the course. Blame the many for the actions of a few. Of couse he usually goes on to lecture how leadership needs to vet its recruits and 'police' its members. Thats easier said than done in a game where most have multiple accounts/alts where you really don't know whos sitting on the other side of the screen a lot of the time.
tbh nexa is pleased that this thread is being bumped to the top all the time by replies, at the end of the day he's just an attention-*****. Best if you deprive him of what he seeks by not replying to this thread anymore.

btw, I do realise the irony of recommending the above whilst bumping his thread myself, before any smart ass points that out 
Hmm...I never said CVA specifically was behind it. A long time and well known CVA player was behind it. CVA seems to take people acting outside of the alliance charter quite seriously going by their responses in this thread.
I posted it here because this is the proper forum and I knew it would entertain many people.
If you think about it, the alliance would eventually be to blame for this persons actions. Why? Because they have specific rules and if it's brought to their attention that their players are breaking such rules, they should be disciplining them. If not, then they would need to share the blame.
Phi, you're lumping everyting together and not taking it for what it is. Yes I do think CEO's and alliance leaders should police their players. I understand they can't do much about something they don't know about. There is no real way to forsee this happening.
What they can do is police after the fact. That's fairly reasonable thing to expect, especially from a outfit like CVA who has guidelines in place for their members regarding their conduct in game and on the forums.
I do preach that people do need to be wary of who they recruit though.
Thank you for the insults though. Though, I would guess that you yourself would also be an attention w***e by riding my coat tails and posting in my thread.
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