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HermanGelmet
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:48:00 -
[661]
It baffles me that this was a more pressing issue than getting rid of macroers, ISK sellers etc. Maybe it's because they are incapable of one, and more than willing to do the other without a moment's hesitation.
GJ, you are teh win.
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Retromash
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:48:00 -
[662]
So, ah.... How many of you are going to the fanfest, and taking baseball bats or other types of blunt/sharp objects with you?
PMS - It's not just for THAT time of the month
Menopause - It doesn't mean THAT time of the month goes away
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Khalid Seyadin
Amarr
Ejrekorp
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:49:00 -
[663]
I hear they're saying Goon Fleet is a bug...maybe they'll fix them too ;-)
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Dianeces
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:49:00 -
[664]
Terrible change, much like Inanna Zunis posting.
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Leet Magician
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:49:00 -
[665]
 Originally by: FemmeFatal
Originally by: Leet Magician
Quote:
Now a single customer that doesn't log into the servers may not weigh heavily on our database infrastructure, just as a single snowflake isn't that heavy, hardly a measurable quantity. But it's hard not to notice an avalanche if it hits you. And that's what was starting to happen in our database.
didn't realize skill training was so heavy on the servers
guess we all have to stop our skills in order to have proper 400vs400 fleet battles
GBC secret fleet battle strategy 
that's why we load first on node crashes 
honestly CCP.. there are other bugs that need fixing, not this one
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:49:00 -
[666]
This sort of reminds me of the old piracy-argument.
Developer: Hmm, we've made a staggeringly awesome first-person shooter, why doesn't it sell? It must be piracy that is to blame.
Reality: They've made yet another clone of clones, have nothing new to contribute, and hope to gain lots of money from shoveling shit to their customers, but the result is a lack of sales.
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CCP version: We provide an awesome game, talk to our community, and people are unsubscribing to our wonderful game? It must be exploitative players and bugs that is to blame.
Reality: Weak world economy, and a player base that is fed up with being treated like they don't exist lead to an increase in people canceling their subscriptions resulting in a lack of sales.
Cause and Effect, dear CCP. Cause and Effect.
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The Ubernomicon
Eight year old girls
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:49:00 -
[667]
The biggest factor with this change is that this game is not very content rich. This change now forces paying for 30d+ days of the same content/ships when training BS V, BC V or any other high ranking skill. No other game is like that, not even Korean MMOs. And then add how stagnant CCP has made 0.0. This change is going to remove the last thing that made coming back after a break worth it.
It looks like it time to start shopping for a new game.
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Katana Seiko
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:50:00 -
[668]
Originally by: Cosy Ceaon
dear Torfi Frans Olafsson stay whit ambulation and whit your blog
Care to translate?
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"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind." -Terry Pratchett |
Trzzbk
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:50:00 -
[669]
Originally by: Cyrus Doul
Originally by: Trzzbk
Originally by: The Ubernomicon
A little birdie told me that you are thinking about randomizing moon mineral distribution every few months
No ****ing way, I would love to hear the rationale behind this.
rationale: to mess with pos people everywhere when they find out that the moon miner that has been running for 2 weeks getting silicate is now getting cobalt or some other godly expensive ore, but the silo tells them "**** off, I'm silicates!" and dumps billions of isk into space around the game.
I mean, it makes sense. It's not like you'd need to spend dozens of hours taking down and re-setting up your mining chains every time the materials changed. It's not as if it takes well over 2 hours to take down a single POS, not to mention putting it back up.
Oh wait.
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Weirda
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:51:00 -
[670]
Originally by: Milena Rage
What an idiotic move, you'll be losing 5 accounts out of my collection, my 86m sp char does everything that my alts can do - why bother having additional accounts that I hardly even use?
sound like they Milena favour! 
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TheJackalMiner
Amarr
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:51:00 -
[671]
Well this is how it goes (for me):
CCP: Money, money, money.... must be funny ..... it's a cruel world ...... we wish you a speedy recovery!!!!
EVE PLAYERS: to many opinions and don't have enough room to sum them all up!
My opinion ( not that it will matter for CCP) : OMG i need to make another SPEEDY RECOVERY of my WALLET if i want to play eve!
Succes it's not final, Failure it's not fatal, it's the Courage to Continue that Counts! |
Cyrus Doul
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:52:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Khalid Seyadin
I hear they're saying Goon Fleet is a bug...maybe they'll fix them too ;-)
Nah. I like goonfleet. Sure everyone in the game hates them. I just like them when im reading the news articles at the logon screen. Anytime they pop up your basically bound to laugh at something rediculously crazy that Jihadfleet did.
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Caldari
OR WHAT' Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:52:00 -
[673]
Hope CCP arnt just looking at this as another forum whinge becuase we are looking at the end of EVE here if this goes through without other changes like reducing long skills training times.!!
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Tizoca
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:52:00 -
[674]
I find it bizarre that anyone is accusing CCP of "promoting" ghost training as a "feature", when the resources they drag out to back up their claim are:
1) One tiny quote buried in the Player Guide, which most people never read, that never claimed this was an intended feature, just that it worked. In fact, there was a rules change a while back that was posted in the PG and in the News section, and everyone on the forums blasted CCP in part because "no one reads the Player Guide" (or the News, for that matter). Double standard, no? Besides...the Guide did reflect how the game worked at the time, intentionally or not. So what? There are also disclaimers that game experience may change during play. They had something that was a minor bug that players liked, so they left it alone until it started hitting the bottom line and raising ire from some players. No lies involved.
2) A dev quote talking about something that worked in the game at the time. The quote also did not claim that ghost training was an intended feature, nor was said quote widely used for promotion, nor did the dev promise it would be in the game forever more.
Hmm...seems like the most under-promoted feature in history. I guess I'm in the minority, but I NEVER choose to play a game because of a minor feature that isn't core to the game; minor things change all the time.
I guess I'm still at a loss to see what possible reason people could have for having 5 or 8 accounts all alternating through ghosting at once, anyway. Or are there some sour grapes in some quarters because CCP took away an easy way to finish training characters for sale? 
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Matting
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:52:00 -
[675]
Well 1 account canceled now for me.
I didn't really use this feature/bug very often personally but I knew others who did and it enticed them to come back to play with something new they got while not playing.
Some people get burnt out and quit to play other games but having a long skill finish seems to get them to come back for a few months. I think in these cases they will just stay with their others games.
I really am worried that CCP has lost their vision for EVE and with the player base. Also can a dev explain how inactive accounts training put so much stress on the servers?
Most people canceling accounts are probably canceling alt accounts not their mains so there is no stuff to get.
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Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:52:00 -
[676]
Edited by: Necro EvilZombie on 14/10/2008 02:55:00
Edited by: Necro EvilZombie on 14/10/2008 02:53:13
And I have canceled my alts account too.
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Trzzbk
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:53:00 -
[677]
Edited by: Trzzbk on 14/10/2008 02:54:04
Originally by: TheJackalMiner
Well this is how it goes (for me):
CCP: Money, money, money.... must be funny ..... it's a cruel world ...... we wish you a speedy recovery!!!!
EVE PLAYERS: to many opinions and don't have enough room to sum them all up!
My opinion ( not that it will matter for CCP) : OMG i need to make another SPEEDY RECOVERY of my WALLET if i want to play eve!
Cany somebody translate this into a coherent post?
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Khwalik
Ghetto Kings
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:54:00 -
[678]
I'll make a suggestion....Reintroduce 'Power of two' and allow existing accounts to use it rather than try and railroad us to swap toons about and make more money CCP.
And allow inactive accounts after say one year old the ability to post on the forums to aquire a GTC with isk assets.
That'd answer alot of my problems for the time being.
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CherryPoppin
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:55:00 -
[679]
Ok let's be perfectly honest here..
When CCP says 'hard work users put into their characters' they mean 'money'.
We all know what's happened to Iceland's economy, right? Completely and utterly destroyed! That's why they're making this money grab.
It's not going to get you squat.
What's _absolutely hilarious_ about all of this is CCP has shown us why the rest of Iceland can't run their businesses for jack diddly.
Guess you should have refunded all those ship losses due to lag from your servers. Hopefully your bank wont give back your house either... esp if you share the same customer service.
Enjoy
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Trzzbk
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:55:00 -
[680]
Originally by: Tizoca
They had something that was a minor bug that players liked, so they left it alone until it started hitting the bottom line and raising ire from some players.
Raised ire from who?
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Fader Bane
Black Knight Buccaneers
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:55:00 -
[681]
Originally by: Necro EvilZombie
Edited by: Necro EvilZombie on 14/10/2008 02:53:13
obviously unintended. must have been a typo.
so you're going to reissue lower level gtcs then right? I mean that's only fair.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente
Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:56:00 -
[682]
A Very Very stupid move by CCP. This wont help Eve online at all.
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Khalid Seyadin
Amarr
Ejrekorp
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:56:00 -
[683]
It's gonna be easier on Call of Duty when all the deleted players start playing normal games shouting "Where's the Tank!" while I blast you in the face with my AK-47!
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The Ubernomicon
Eight year old girls
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:56:00 -
[684]
Originally by: CherryPoppin
We all know what's happened to Iceland's economy, right? Completely and utterly destroyed! That's why they're making this money grab.
It's not going to get you squat.
This would make sense if we all payed in whatever worthless currency Iceland uses, but we don't.
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Debu San
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:57:00 -
[685]
This is BS, I have several characters myself and though i keep them subscribed merely for the ease of being able to do what I want whenever I wish those that are having financial issues during these hard times will be especially hard hit by this. I don't understand really why you should need to pay to train long skills anyways considering actually playing and online have nothing to do with how fast you acquire SP. This coupled with inflated GTC prices (remember 90's used to go for less than 400 mil) are making this game start to suck badly for the average Joe. Also watch what the left hand is doing this situation was probably to redirect attention from the hated speed nerf that may be occurring at the same time.
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Dacro Insigna
Caldari
Insurrection Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:58:00 -
[686]
Drop us a skill queue and I'm cool with it.
- Dax
"AND it proves you to be very wrong in that statement" - Strife Phoenix, Intelligence Incarnate |
Ba'Zap Da'Rezd
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:58:00 -
[687]
Five accounts here that will be going permanently inactive once the time cards on them expire in a couple weeks.
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Khwalik
Ghetto Kings
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:58:00 -
[688]
Honestly I percieve this to be the 'end of days' for EvE.
And don't try and say they are diversified in other Euro markets or the states.
Another thing I strongly encourage.....Boycott Fanfest! if it even happens.
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Baroness D
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:59:00 -
[689]
I had recently cancelled an alt account because of what I considered extremely poor treatment by CCP's customer service. I received an email just last week about a month after the cancellation asking me to fill out a survey explaining why I had canceled my account. The email contained no link to the survey only to the survey company and I couldn't find a survey to fill out.
Perfect example of what CCP thinks of there customers. Nothing.
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.10.14 03:00:00 -
[690]
GO FIGURE. I am less than a month from my 6 month sub ending (not resubbing) and I was ready to do up BS V... Would have been nice to get that bad boy out of the way for Christmas. Looks like CCP won't be getting my little X-mas bonus of another 6~12 month sub. No, not because of the death of ghost training solely, but its a nice little addition to the list. Easy come, easy go.
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