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St Claus	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:07:00 - [2371] Originally by: Annaphera The highest levels of skill training are supposed to be something you have to wait for while working your way up in other aspects of the game, not something to shortcut to. This explanes why there was this "ghost training"-feature? Originally by: Annaphera I could put a bowl of candy on my desk, and let anyone take one; by your logic, if I for some reason decided to stop filling the bowl, everyone who had come to expect it would have the right to get ***ed and yell at me until I put the candy out again. That goes against all common sense, especially when we are talking about a paid subscription service*! Ain't that a shitty example. If you really don't understand why, i don't have anything else to say as i finally believe that you are a troll.
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:08:00 - [2372] Originally by: Lothendra Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Lothendra Oh, and for the record, EVE Developers: I let my account lapse now and then because I am tired or fed up of EVE. The only reason I come back is because the long skill that was ghost-training finally finishes and gives me something new to play with, a new ship or whatever, and then i'm happy again. There's already such a feature! It has a limit of 800 000 skill points. Did you mean to reply to my other post? Or is this a sign of the forums finally melting down? I meant to, I'm fairly certain I did... Frigate racing is fast and fun!
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:09:00 - [2373] Originally by: zigman123 ummm I dont know who runs the numbers at ccp but just roughly counting how many people are quitting over this... Well it's possible that they don't actually believe all the emorage forumspam. Besides, throwing a hissy-fit and stopping your account isn't terribly final. If you want to impress me then transfer all your stuff to me, delete the characters and then cancel the account.
Amarr Hyena	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:10:00 - [2374] Edited by: Amarr Hyena on 14/10/2008 19:11:51 When this is all over can you assemble the Threadnaught and send it to my hanger? Thanks CCP, -A.H. ------- ghost training Threadnaught V. Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive.
StealthGerbils	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:11:00 - [2375] CCP IS ******ED quote this if your down
Gedhay	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:11:00 - [2376] Originally by: Spawn06 This is soooo funneh...lolol... Soooo cause you train bs5 you cant "do anything" so you would prefer to not have to pay for your account cause like...its training and that is boring...and like you cant do missions or pew in low sec or like anything when ur training like bs5...so like why pay for that yeh...what rubbish anything you say beyond this point to the contrary is rubbish cause spawny said it - seriously GOOOOOOO stop saying it cancel right NOW!!! sif your gonna !@#@@! yeah, ur ******ed and it's no poit in explain to u what's realy about it
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:11:00 - [2377] Originally by: St Claus Ain't that a shitty example. If you really don't understand why, i don't have anything else to say as i finally believe that you are a troll. Translation: "You're wrong. I can't explain how or why, but you're just wrong. Oh, and you're a big meanie-boots troll too. There, I won."
Kaesarr	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:11:00 - [2378] remenber ccp i cancel my two ac****¦s and in we corp vt say more cancel¦s accounts..
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:12:00 - [2379] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: zigman123 ummm I dont know who runs the numbers at ccp but just roughly counting how many people are quitting over this... Well it's possible that they don't actually believe all the emorage forumspam. Besides, throwing a hissy-fit and stopping your account isn't terribly final. If you want to impress me then transfer all your stuff to me, delete the characters and then cancel the account. (Is this quoting thing working now?) I'm fairly certain you intended to instruct him to send his stuff to ME, not you. Frigate racing is fast and fun!
RVWinkle GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:14:00 - [2380] I suppose this post will be lost in the flood of other posts but I just wanted to add another disapproving vote. I haven't really played this game for two years. The only reason I subscribed every other month for the past two years was because of the ghost training. I know it's stupid but that's how I liked to play. Now that this is no longer a feature I cannot justify resubscribing.

Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:15:00 - [2381] Originally by: RVWinkle Now that this is no longer a feature I cannot justify resubscribing. Apparently you can, since you're still subscribed... Frigate racing is fast and fun!
Peter VonThal Raygun Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:16:00 - [2382] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Xultanis The proof was those links just couple of posts above this one. Its not word for word and finding the exact one will take time but there you go right there. Those links should make you happy enough Nope, I don't see it, you're gonna have to be specific. (C'mon, how hard is it to cut'n'paste?) "i made the mistake of telling Wrangler they stopped training on Tranquility when subsctiptions lapsed, this lead to much confusion and me being whipped (which i have to admit, i enjoyed very much) But i was mistaken, it's only applicable to the Serenity server." "I just want to let you know that skill training WILL continue while the account is inactive. I had picked this up wrong when i was speaking to Wrangler before and i mistakenly told him that skills stop training when accounts go inactive, this is why it was included in the patch notes and it's entirely my fault."
Zarest Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:16:00 - [2383] I will not be coming back after my next break if you disable ghost training..... So that's one, two year subscriber gone... Good Job CCP I am sure you will make millions off of this.
Georn VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:17:00 - [2384] I just thought.. That would be something for the CSM! Or at least for the campaigns... Vote for "x" and "x" un-nerfs ghosttraining! ____________ even Carebears have teeth
Deadly Hobbitses Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:17:00 - [2385] Edited by: Deadly Hobbitses on 14/10/2008 19:20:43 CCP Wrangler: The only avenue left for CCP to regain any amount of credibility regarding this issue is to implement a skill training queue. ONLY this would provide adequate justification for these drastic measures as the ability to queue up multiple skills to train while you do not pay would be much more of an advantage of note than the current ability to have whatever skill is currently training when your subscription lapses complete. Edit: On second thought, I'll add a threat as well. Should you fail to implement a skill queue in short order and post a dev blog concerning such in even shorter order, my hairy footed brethren and I shall take the ring and throw it back into the fire from whence it came! You have been warned.
Lag	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:17:00 - [2386] Subscription canceled (Ironic that it was supposed to renew on 10/17).
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:18:00 - [2387] Edited by: Julius Rigel on 14/10/2008 19:22:11 Originally by: Zarest I will not be coming back after my next break if you disable ghost training..... So that's one, two year subscriber gone... Good Job CCP I am sure you will make millions off of this. Originally by: Lag Subscription canceled (Ironic that it was supposed to renew on 10/17). Originally by: Trumpoll Now there is one less reason to come back to Eve Online. Originally by: Frances Ducoir there goes my eve subscription and my 2 accounts. Your stuff... must... have. Frigate racing is fast and fun!
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:18:00 - [2388] This is the worst most appalling and ghastly idea I have seen CCP implement so abruptly in the time I have spent with this game. There is no justifiable reason to implement this idea now. For CCP to cover it up with the rouge that ôGhostö training is an exploit is an insult. ôGhostö training has been and advertised feature, which has been a deciding factor for many to subscribe to an account. I am simply not interested in the explanation that it was an unintentional bug, which has been used by players. This Feature, which CCP has advertised, has been used for 5 years now and it is deplorable to suddenly withdraw it with virtually no warning. We will see whether CCP have made a bad move by noting the active subscriptions over the forthcoming months. www.eve-players.com
Trumpoll	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:19:00 - [2389] I like to bounce from MMO to MMO, from WoW to Eve to LOTRO, etc etc. So I spend no more than a month, 2 months tops, in a MMO at a time. What I really liked about Eve Online is that the downtime between playing I was able to keep improving my character. I could stop playing for 3 or 4 months and come back to a character that was better than when I left it. Ghost training wasn't the only thing keeping me coming back to Eve Online, but it was something that helped in the decision to come back. Now there is one less reason to come back to Eve Online.
BIind	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:19:00 - [2390] Originally by: Deadly Hobbitses CCP Wrangler: The only avenue left for CCP to regain any amount of credibility regarding this issue is to implement a skill training queue. ONLY this would provide adequate justification for these drastic measures as the ability to queue up multiple skills to train while you do not pay would be much more of an advantage of note than the current ability to have whatever skill is currently training when your subscription lapses complete. link please

St Claus	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:19:00 - [2391] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: St Claus Ain't that a shitty example. If you really don't understand why, i don't have anything else to say as i finally believe that you are a troll. Translation: "You're wrong. I can't explain how or why, but you're just wrong. Oh, and you're a big meanie-boots troll too. There, I won." Yeah, becouse giving candy for free equals with feature that gives some people (one more) reason to pay for multiple accounts. There, happy?
Captain Kelden	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:19:00 - [2392] Hello, While I understand and accept the reasons CCP have provided for disabling Ghost Training, I can also see things from the other viewpoint. Would it be possible for CCP to compromise on this to try and keep Ghost Trainers happy? Would CCP consider allowing an inactive account to Ghost Train for a maximum of two months of every year? So for example if the account is inactive for six months out of every twelve, ghost training would only work for two of those inactive months before being disabled on that account until the next year. I can't say I've knowingly used Ghost Training except for when I forgot my subscription was about to expire and it's lapsed. It was good to know that my skill would train until I could get a new GTC. Perhaps an idea would be to allow a Ghost Training grace period? Allow the skills to train for 7 days after the account is becomes inactive. The flame threads going on at the moment are not helping much, so please keep this thread flame free. The ideas above may not be possible, but hopefully they will get someone thinking. Thanks!
Frances Ducoir Gallente Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:20:00 - [2393] Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 14/10/2008 19:39:42 there goes my eve subscription and my 2 accounts. the possibility of progressing while not online and even while the account is inactive, was one of the reasons i still played eve. i dont have much time IRL, and the 30+90d gtc nerf made me angry enough already... F*** capitalism... this is pure greed! lying about how this was an bug and not intended is the last straw that broke the camel's back. -2 accounts snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Cugel Iocounu Amarr Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:20:00 - [2394] Edited by: Cugel Iocounu on 14/10/2008 19:20:23 I used to defend CCP when people would slam them in-game and now this. I take back anything good i ever said about CCP This shit is **in disgraceful. ***S! nothing but a blatant attempt to grab more cash. You dont care for your players at all do you? post No.2342
clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:21:00 - [2395] Looks like this thread has been relegated to the Downbelow of the Eve-0 forums. -------------------------------------------------- The Angels Have the Phone Box
James Marshalll Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:21:00 - [2396] Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: RVWinkle Now that this is no longer a feature I cannot justify resubscribing. Apparently you can, since you're still subscribed... you do know that ending your sub doesn't end your ability to post or play the game until your paid time is gone right?
Sailon	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:21:00 - [2397] Originally by: Deadly Hobbitses CCP Wrangler: The only avenue left for CCP to regain any amount of credibility regarding this issue is to implement a skill training queue. ONLY this would provide adequate justification for these drastic measures as the ability to queue up multiple skills to train while you do not pay would be much more of an advantage of note than the current ability to have whatever skill is currently training when your subscription lapses complete. ymm no if it doesent include 2x faster skill training
Soma Khan	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:21:00 - [2398] Originally by: oilio This sucks. I am cancelling both subscriptions right now (or would be, if I could get to my account details - seems to have seized up). ... Do make sure and remember to cancel when the accounts page comes up later on. Nothing but good will come from you and those like you leaving this place. Less database and forum pollution, as witnessed by this thread. ___
BIind	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:22:00 - [2399] Edited by: BIind on 14/10/2008 19:21:49 Originally by: Julius Rigel Edited by: Julius Rigel on 14/10/2008 19:20:06 Edited by: Julius Rigel on 14/10/2008 19:18:42 Originally by: Zarest I will not be coming back after my next break if you disable ghost training..... So that's one, two year subscriber gone... Good Job CCP I am sure you will make millions off of this. Originally by: Lag Subscription canceled (Ironic that it was supposed to renew on 10/17). Originally by: Trumpoll Now there is one less reason to come back to Eve Online. Your stuff... must... have. This has to be the lamest, most boring and unimaginative meme ever, why don't you let it die already.
Soldur Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.10.14 19:22:00 - [2400] Edited by: Soldur on 14/10/2008 19:24:09 http://www.kaptainklak.com/gfx/gallery/CCP.jpg



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