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Mike C Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:04:00 - [1441] Originally by: RaTTuS Originally by: Mike C Last time CCP threatened to add this, about a year ago, I stopped all my accounts. I will be doing that again. and you came back With a trial, and someone said that CCP never in fact added it, and thus I wasted 4 months. ________________________________________
Todoshi Caldari Caldari Logistics and Supplies	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:04:00 - [1442] I think the biggest problem is the lack of notice, 2 frickin days....nice going. its no surprise that ccp devs have been too gutless to reply in the thread since it was posted, all we get is mods changing posts because of forum rules. well for those that are tracking its -2 for me as well perhaps -3 as i don't know if i can be arsed waiting for marauders 5. * Signature not within the allowed image size of 400 x 120 pixels - CCP Fallout
Kain Simmons	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:05:00 - [1443] I doubt this will increase your Income ccp. I never ghost trained but i had plans to do when i ever feel the need of a second account. But after this change i know for sure i will not get me one. Paying for my 1. Account 100% of the year Intended to pay for my 2. Account every 2. Month So you guys loose subsctiption fees for about 6 months from me. Good work ****ing your customers off.
Kryttos Hard Corp Carbide and Diamonds Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:06:00 - [1444] Unfortunately this thread brings out a major problem with the world today.. Everyone wants instant gratification with little to no effort. God how far we have fallen >< [email protected]
Mike C Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:06:00 - [1445] Edited by: Mike C on 14/10/2008 11:08:49 I'm just glad I got most of my Capital skills to 5 before this. But now I need to actively train Cap Ships to 5 -_- EDIT: Would have to. ________________________________________
Kryttos Hard Corp Carbide and Diamonds Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:07:00 - [1446] oh and to the ragequitters i say... Good riddance. WoW awaits =p [email protected]
Viral Effect Caldari Viral Holding V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:07:00 - [1447] It is quite obvious from reading the replies in this thread that this decision is about as popular as a fart in a space suit. If you read the EULA you will notice that we the account holder can terminate our subscriptions without notice. I can see that thousands of subscriptions will be cancelled in due course. Perhaps CCP will see the light.
Face deBouc	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:08:00 - [1448] Not constructive. Naviagtor
JuGGeR Phantom Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:09:00 - [1449] if the time spand is 5 years to fix a bug , then can we plz have a fix to the other stuff thats laggin , and get a when it was started .. so my 20+ accounts can get back @ that time , coz this is pure bs really .. with all the games thats not doing so well , why try to make eve 1 of em also !? Phantomsquad
Stormaar Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:09:00 - [1450] Originally by: Face deBouc Not constructive. Naviagtor Go play hello kitty online for free stuff ----- Customizable UI / internal API for mods/addons
dr00l Minmatar The Movement	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:10:00 - [1451] As my last post stated, you will probably (actually, remove "probably"?) lose money and playerbase due to this rather than getting them up. How hard is it to realize, really? I like the game and have seldom used the "Ghost Training" FEATURE and only when I took breaks from the game due to stuff in real life. And guess what, that FEATURE made me COME BACK. I currently have 4 accounts, I still like this game, but I'm going to stop subscription for 2 of the accounts due to your latest two fiascos, the removal of 30 and 90-days GTC's and now this. Please rethink. -2 Accounts.
Helene Mythrana Gallente Tetragrammaton Research	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:10:00 - [1452] Got this today via eMail: We are sending you this email because you have purchased EVE time codes from us in the past. Unsubscribe information is at the bottom of this email if you wish to receive no emails from us except for when you make purchases. With the global economic problems we have seen a rise in people trying to spend as little as possible. If you are in need of more ISK in the game this is an opportunity for you to help out your fellow player at the same time being able to purchase ISK through the official EVE gametime codes exchange for ISK. We did a video on this feature when it was first released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IR8IYUVyA The video explains how to exchange your gametime for ISK the officially supported way. The gametime codes for ISK exchange is an excellent way for those who do not have extra funds to play the game to work for their subscription from within the game. For those who have extra funds and not enough time to place it's an excellent way to get ISK without the fear of being banned. So if you need to know how to trade your ISK for gametime check out the YouTube video. If you need ISK and want to help out your fellow players you can find 60 day ETC at our store: <Link to shatteredcrystal store> Thank you for being a customer. Your business is appreciated. Marcus Eikenberry www.ShatteredCrystal.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it think* that even the GTC traders are feeling the sting of CCP's decision to cut away the 30/90d GTC and in light of those recent events now deciding to get rid of a 'bug' that so blatantly obvious is just another try at getting higher revenues from the paying player base i think this is very,very bad timing. Whatever the reasons are for this change, an honest, upfront aproach saying 'Hey guys, we like the game as much as you do but to keep up with our revenues and spendings for new server hardware and hamsters we need more money, we can't increase the cost for your subscription plan or for GTCs because then we'd be more expensive than other comparable mmorpgs BUT we can tweak around with the parameters that increase our gains without too much pain on your side, so cheers, ty for still being our customer' would be still way better than that what your poor dev guy was forced to post in teh news (my sympathies, dude, sometimes there are just tasks that are not meant to be carried out to everyone's satisfaction ) In a series of fails, in a series of bad decisions, in a series of misjudgement THIS has the potential to turn into the REAL mother of all fails Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
Hixxy	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:11:00 - [1453] Originally by: Lifewringer You FAIL CCP. I will not forgive you UNLESS you take away capped training on the same account away. If I have 3 chars on that account I want to be able to train them all at once. Otherwise you are UNFORGIVEN. -1 account Have fun playing CCP (it will be mostly your toons around) i'd settle for 2 and it would keep a lot of the people here happy not to mention the extra 20 ccp would make by some people moving chars from other accounts. i get bored doing the same stuff all the time and can't justify having 2-3 subscruptions especially when i don't have much RL time to play hence why ghost training is such a big FEATURE of EVE.
Kayoshu	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:11:00 - [1454] Originally by: Todoshi I think the biggest problem is the lack of notice, 2 frickin days....nice going. Exactly When a company begin to have such communication problem, it's time to go fly elsewhere I only have one account, and have never used ghost training, but i completly disagree with the method used to announce this change Subscription canceled, time to try another game
Total Disaster	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:13:00 - [1455] anyone keeping track? how many left? where did they life? are there nice moons?
Asuri Kinnes Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:13:00 - [1456] I LOVE how ccp in their own player guide said one of the selling points of the game was the ability to "train while inactive or expired", but NOW its a game destroying bug... Look, do NOT insult my intelligence by saying "Ghost Training was an unintended feature where unpaid accounts of EVE Online were able to continue training skills. While this allowed players to run multiple characters on a shoestring budget, in all effect, this was a bug." Thats actually a CROCK! You've got it in your player guide, and its been in the game for five years! Are you SERIOUS? I know games change over time, but really - your telling me its raining when its actually something quite different... AK Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking. Ethics, Honor and Respect. Without the first two, you can't buy the last one...
Ichinomiya Chiaki	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:14:00 - [1457] Originally by: Kryttos oh and to the ragequitters i say... Good riddance. WoW awaits =p Yeah!! wraith of rich king is COMING SOON!!
Suga H Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:14:00 - [1458] I don't understand the "getting stuff for free" argument, or the "lag" argument for this. First off, even if you're ghosting, you still have to pay to change skills, and to use the skill that you waited so patiently for. Second off, people not logged into the game aren't going to lag the game. It seems that most people that are "emo-rage quitting" in here are cancelling their alt accounts, and probably not their main. Which means just as many people in space as there were before. Though this will majorly deter anyone that was currently on a break to come back. "instant gratification" No one's really asking for that. And they'd be stupid if they were. Even when ghosting, you still have to wait the time. Now CCP is making us pay to wait.
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:15:00 - [1459] Ho hum. I was about to let a my accounts lapse on the 17th, when their current payment period ends. Not enough time or money at the moment. I'm not saying "Wah! I hate you! I'll never be back!" But this change does make it slightly less likely that I will return when I have the money and time. I don't blame CCP for making the change, but the unintended consequence has got to be that people who are letting accounts lapse will be less likely to be sucked back into the game in the future.
Mitsuho	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:15:00 - [1460] As ppl tell in army: 'De-escalation zone active presence' I don't wish spend 3x yearly fee if I can get fun with 1x :) MBA make ppl mad :)
Natsuno Mirage	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:15:00 - [1461] I PLAYED and PAID for YOUR features! For being able to train on inactive accounts. You now call it a BUG?!?! WTF?!?!! I WANT MY MONEY BACK! Account managers were always bunch of **ing idiots. Greedy **ing waaaahm people. Only one thing gets me blood boiling like this, IDIOTS! emh, whatever happened to this world. The older I'm the colder this shit is. I like your game, but I don't like you. I was about to go and buy a pack of GTCs for resale during this DT...to be able to afford some capital bpos, capital skills, and to possibly have them trainned on an inactive account. Why? Because I got nothing else to do with that acc. until it's trained. Because that is how I roll Because they take so long I can't train anything else and thus DO ANYTHING ELSE. Whatever happened to EVE :((((((((((( Maybe I should go and get a girlfriend in RL.. I always thought that paying for girls is waste of money... but after this, I stopped thinking that. You failed once in my eyes... it doesn't matter how many time fail again.. cos i care no more.
Cergorach Amarr The Helix Foundation	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:16:00 - [1462] I'm not displeased with the end of ghost training, even though I've used it in the past. It makes for a much more even playing field in EVE, I expect that characters (and skills) will become more valuable because of this change, something I feel is a good thing. People who are complaining about this change should have seen it coming when they stopped selling 30 day GTCs, the 30 day GTC was the tool of the ghost trainer. I'm curious if CCP will also do something about the accumulation of Research Points on inactive accounts. The next step after that would be the suspension of buy/sell orders on inactive accounts...
Velda Chulai	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:16:00 - [1463] Originally by: Friday Jinx Are you people on drugs? How can you be whining about this change from the company that gives you FREE EXPANSIONS to an MMO? If CCP feels they need to do this, then let them, you ungrateful babies. How long before the free expansions which subsidize your satisfaction are no longer worth the cost of reduced functionality? How long before the dwindling integrity, whcih CCP now has an established pattern of, convinces you that you're not getting your fair enjoyment of the game? Ultimately that's what this fiasco boils down to: We're of the position that this is abrupt and unfair. Certainly CCP is welcome to make decisions about how the game functions, but the decision itself is unwelcome. Many accounts are paid for through relatively expensive subscription fees (if paid via time code - buying GTCs for isk is still a real time code sold) for our mains and/or alts. Many of these alts use an insignificant amount of bandwidth and, by design, will continue to use up an entry in that expansive database regardless of whether it's logged in/active or not. Virtually nothing is saved/gained by this move. If you can be bought out so easily, enjoy your free expansions.
Fennicus Amarr Shoot To Thrill	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:17:00 - [1464] Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Ho hum. I was about to let a my accounts lapse on the 17th, when their current payment period ends. Not enough time or money at the moment. I'm not saying "Wah! I hate you! I'll never be back!" But this change does make it slightly less likely that I will return when I have the money and time. I don't blame CCP for making the change, but the unintended consequence has got to be that people who are letting accounts lapse will be less likely to be sucked back into the game in the future. This is the first sensible, non-Emo point about why this could be a bad idea that I've seen in this thread. Kudos to you.
Face deBouc	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:17:00 - [1465] PLEASE again some effort and we can reach 50 pages about "nothing" for say "nothing" Remember i take your STUFF and your ISK Thanks for this game CCP
Neliel Oderschvank	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:19:00 - [1466] Edited by: Neliel Oderschvank on 14/10/2008 11:19:56 Oh yeah and another thing... I think CCP will just encourage people to do businesses with ISK Sellers, why? Because now some of you might just rather buy some ISK for a cheaper price and get some TimeCodes(ISK) for playtime to keep your character training for cheaper price... and Hell CCP might even be supporting ISK Sellers (atleast some of them) as its also a business money making. Who says CCP cant even have an unknown ISK Selling website out there and know about? No one as we cant confirm it either CCP just ban you when caught cuz you just didnt buy from them, lol... but you get the general idea. this few fix from 90day GTC to 60day GTC for the price of the old 90 (ripping you 30days) and now this.... it all makes sense that CCP is desperate and in need of more Ca$h!!! i think imma keep -1 account inactive.. as this will be bit expensive
Butzewutze	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:20:00 - [1467] Edited by: Butzewutze on 14/10/2008 11:22:50 Edited by: Butzewutze on 14/10/2008 11:19:50 Quote: Ghost Training was an unintended feature where unpaid accounts of EVE Online were able to continue training skills. BUG Eh? BULLSHIT! proof
Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:20:00 - [1468] An indescribably stupid move to be quite honest Seriously... fire your marketing department CCP. Couple this with the GTC changes and you just ****ed over alot of happy customers. And I used to be a fanboi
Midas Man Caldari Dzark Asylum	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:20:00 - [1469] Due to the large Thread here CCP are now going to Nerf posting.... From now on Dev blogs are "Read Only" no replies as this king of thread size cause undue stress on the hamster run Servers and also stress's the DataBase. All characters will be limited to opening 1 new thread per month and replying to 3. Anyone ignoring this rule will be banned. We are also introducing a new feature where you can use a GTC to wipe a ban. We apologies for the inconvieniance you can still tell us your view by opening a petition.. From 15/10/2008 we will be reducing you Game Time by 3 day for each petition raised to cover the wages of the GM's who will anwser "Tough Luck" or "Our Logs show nothing"
Suga H Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:21:00 - [1470] And if it's seriously because of a financial crisis in Iceland.. be honest with your playerbase CCP. Be honest, upfront, and patient. Don't go taking away a "feature" from the beginning of the game, and a major selling point. Don't insult the players by suddenly calling it a bug. (And would the other players quit saying it's cheating, because if you've read the player guide, it's right there). If you need money, tell the playerbase that. Bring up ideas. EvE has always been a game that was built up by the players, so let them help decide. There are plenty of ways to bring in more revenue. Gradually increase the costs, add in special content for an additional cost (this can kill games though), offer other services.. whatever. But give it some time (more than two days), and discuss it with the playerbase. Don't just go "We're taking out a game unbalancing bug, in two days, that will directly affect your wallet."

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