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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.06.30 09:56:00 -
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Do I smell hostilities between PIE and Sabaoth?
Or are those my feet?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:07:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Hardin on 30/06/2004 10:09:23
There is no hostility...
We are after all both working for the greater good of the Amarr empire...
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:12:00 -
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Quote: I aquire to a DNA sample of you Deathwing, so that we are sure you have not been tampered with. But do not be alert, the Neo Citizen program can cure the worst in all of us. Amarr and Proud citizen Deathwing.
Indeed citizen I am glad to see Sabaoth return to us once again, but I think the cryo cycle has damaged you or perhaps you have not been filled in and brought up to date on the people within the Amarr Empire these days.
I am Deathwing son, Amarr by blood and by heart. No one challenges that claim as I have stood by my beleifs in the Empire for far longer then I care to remember.
I am one of the most notorious slavers in the Amarr Empire, buying and seilling in the finest of slaves from all over the known galaxy. When Doriam the puppet Emperor was at his fancy inaguration, I was the one who in the name of the Lady Sarum opened my guns up and let hell loose on him while others watched from the shadows.
Perhaps you are the one who should be supplying the DNA evidence to prove who you claim to be? Questioning a man such as myself on my beliefs in the Empire.
Do not cross me again
I have killed men for far less then your insult
Have a nice day citizen Xerion
Deathwing
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:49:00 -
[34]
This Reclaiming lark...
Sanctioned by Concord is it?
--------------------------------------------------------------- "Meantime, all around me is violence and robbery, coarse delight and savage pain, reckless joke and hopeless death." |

Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.06.30 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Doone This Reclaiming lark...
Sanctioned by Concord is it?
Sanctioned by God, which is good enough for most Amarrians 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Freekill
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:29:00 -
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I wouldn't call it hostility...rather call it adjustment. We are like 2 slaver hounds just meeting for the first time. We need to size each other up. Get all the views clear and so on. Besides a true Amarrian would never fight with his brothers.
Have a glorious day citizens.
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Tomasz Zelazny Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated "Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |

Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:40:00 -
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From:TES Fury Punisher class. Location:PIE Forward Outpost Classified. Commanding officer:Adm. Trevize PIE-CEO/Fleetcommander.
***SHORT BURST TRANSMISSION***
There is no conflict between the Praetorians and my esteemed amarrian brothers in Sabaoth-inc, this is purely wishfull thinking from the subhuman agitators, Amarr do not fight Amarr such acts of babarism we leave to the lesser races.
We may not share the same views but in the end we share the same goal, and our friendship is unquestionable.
***TRANSMISSION ENDS***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |

Ciar Meara
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:59:00 -
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PIE is one of the ten first corperations created in EVE, when the universe was fresh and vibrant. Naming us younglings is nothing but mere boasting. Many of us are old men now, surviving the earlier trials of Alpha and Beta to see the light in the rime of the Release.
We have fought the enemies of the Amarr Empire those who view our way of live and our Scriptures with scorn for more then a year now, and shall do so until the ending of the universe.
However I disgree with some that say there is dissention in Amarr, Sarum has always been the most loyal of houses and would never, NEVER undermine the stability of the Empire to do so would endanger our way of live. While the current emperor is labelled a "liberal" by some, he has not done anything to deserve his reputation as a danger to the Cause. He has in fact strengthend our institutions and his reforms in slavery and leadership have only served to clear up centuries old uncertaintees and conflicting laws.
I personally would not have chosen Doriam as Emperor but it is not my choice to make, that choice was decided in a bout of honor, with equal chances to all, Eclipticum the emperor champion won all 4 of his matches defeating all that stood against him, flying amarr vessels. There is none that could have gone better, his clear victory was a brilliant sign of the Choise of God, Truly God was eclipticum's wingman.
I myself fought for the House of Kador, but was unable to persue the combat to its fullest because of lack of wingmen at a late hour. But me and my wingman Caya did put up a good show and fought 2 vs 4 with ourselve dowing one each and damaging a third. I thought Kador and the old ways of the empire might have been a better choice, seeing that Sarum's militairy reclaiming was for the moment not for the good of the empire. But I still hold great respect for it, perhaps more then any other house apart from the Emperor family.
PIE Inc A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation Do I smell hostilities between PIE and Sabaoth?
Or are those my feet?
Citizen Discorporation, its always good to read your posts. But there are no hostility between this two corps. We are different in whom we serve, and our ideals are not PIE ideals.
We follow one of the heir families, and we will still support the Sarum family. Our loyalty to not change if another family heir is set on the throne. And we will defend the Empire in anyway possible from outside hostile influence.
Originally by: Deathwing
Indeed citizen I am glad to see Sabaoth return to us once again, but I think the cryo cycle has damaged you or perhaps you have not been filled in and brought up to date on the people within the Amarr Empire these days.
I am Deathwing son, Amarr by blood and by heart. No one challenges that claim as I have stood by my beleifs in the Empire for far longer then I care to remember.
I am one of the most notorious slavers in the Amarr Empire, buying and seilling in the finest of slaves from all over the known galaxy. When Doriam the puppet Emperor was at his fancy inaguration, I was the one who in the name of the Lady Sarum opened my guns up and let hell loose on him while others watched from the shadows.
Perhaps you are the one who should be supplying the DNA evidence to prove who you claim to be? Questioning a man such as myself on my beliefs in the Empire.
Do not cross me again
I have killed men for far less then your insult
Have a nice day citizen Xerion
Deathwing
Insult, I see no insult but a claim to who you are. Speak not of killing Amarrians, you should dock for a while and rest. Travelling to long in space can make the best of us see things.
No one is questioning your service to the Empire, I have even seen Caldari do good service towards the Empire.
Be well Citizen Deathwing, the gathering is coming and you are welcome.
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Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |

Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:17:00 -
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Excellent. For a brief moment, I thought that we would have a similar situation as the minmatar republic face. I'm pleased that this is not the case.
Forgive me for doubting. I have had no reason to do otherwise until now.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:40:00 -
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What the hell is this alpha, beta and release that everyone keeps banging on about? Various stages of booster-induced hallucinations?
--------------------------------------------------------------- "Meantime, all around me is violence and robbery, coarse delight and savage pain, reckless joke and hopeless death." |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.06.30 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Doone What the hell is this alpha, beta and release that everyone keeps banging on about? Various stages of booster-induced hallucinations?
I believe it refers to the different stages of the introduction of pod technology.
Early "Alpha" pods were notoriously unstable and required constant tinkering in order to work. "Beta" pods were more widespread, more reliable and offered more control options.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.01 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 01:05:22
Originally by: Ardor
I dislike the CVA because of their blind loyality towards Doriam and Pax Amarria.
Come now Ardor, there's no need to cast the CVA into a single mold.
The Dark Seraph are fanatical Sarum supporters, originally founded by former Sabaoth members. Word has it that Kular and his people raid Minmatar space for slaves in the spirit of the old reclaiming ways.
Imperial Dreams are some of the most wealthy business people and industrialists (good fighters too!) in Amarr space. I believe that they are partial to the Tash-Murkon family for this reason.
Personally, my family has lived in Sarum space for generations, and we have always been active members of the Theological Council. The rest of PIE is split many ways on whom they hold as a favoured Heir.
I do not "blindly follow" Doriam Kor-Azor II. I obey the wishes of our Emperor because Eclipticum and his wingmate won the Holy Championship both fair and square and by the Will of God. Eclipticum displayed skill and ability beyond those that the other champions possessed. He deserved the Imperial Apoc, he deserved having a planet named after him, and he deserved to have his chosen Heir named Emperor.
Those who followed and participated in the Championship have little room to debate this, they were there, and the other champions put up a great fight. Unfortunately they lost. If another champion had won they would certainly expect the same rewards (not to mention a little respect for their chosen heir).
Our alliance represents Amarr from all walks of life. Some of us would be overjoyed to see reclaiming start again (including me). As soon as Sarum chooses an heir, I imagine it will start again.
I doubt that this will cause a civil war. Every Heir enjoys a great degree of freedom in their respecive territories. Doriam will not likely stop the Sarum family from having a little fun with the Minmatar rebels.
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.01 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 01:05:22
Originally by: Ardor
I dislike the CVA because of their blind loyality towards Doriam and Pax Amarria.
Come now Ardor, there's no need to cast the CVA into a single mold.
The Dark Seraph are fanatical Sarum supporters, originally founded by former Sabaoth members. Word has it that Kular and his people raid Minmatar space for slaves in the spirit of the old reclaiming ways.
Imperial Dreams are some of the most wealthy business people and industrialists (good fighters too!) in Amarr space. I believe that they are partial to the Tash-Murkon family for this reason.
Personally, my family has lived in Sarum space for generations, and we have always been active members of the Theological Council. The rest of PIE is split many ways on whom they hold as a favoured Heir.
I do not "blindly follow" Doriam Kor-Azor II. I obey the wishes of our Emperor because Eclipticum and his wingmate won the Holy Championship both fair and square and by the Will of God. Eclipticum displayed skill and ability beyond those that the other champions possessed. He deserved the Imperial Apoc, he deserved having a planet named after him, and he deserved to have his chosen Heir named Emperor.
Those who followed and participated in the Championship have little room to debate this, they were there, and the other champions put up a great fight. Unfortunately they lost. If another champion had won they would certainly expect the same rewards (not to mention a little respect for their chosen heir).
Our alliance represents Amarr from all walks of life. Some of us would be overjoyed to see reclaiming start again (including me). As soon as Sarum chooses an heir, I imagine it will start again.
I doubt that this will cause a civil war. Every Heir enjoys a great degree of freedom in their respecive territories. Doriam will not likely stop the Sarum family from having a little fun with the Minmatar rebels.
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.01 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 03:19:58 Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 03:11:32
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Ciar Meara
Meanwhile I would show some respect to those who have continued the struggle for Amarr security and have kept the great Cause of the reclaming alive. Especially one as yourself Xetro, who has not even an incling of standing with Sarum.
PIE Inc. never upheld the Reclaiming. You're a defensive corporation, the Reclaiming is an agressive concept.
If PIE is the shield of the Amarrian Empire, then so be it!
Amarr has been waiting far too long for a sword to quell the rebel uprising in our Matari province.
The shield and the sword have no reason to cross words, we were forged for completely different purposes! Of course we are not meant to agree on everything.
I wish Sabaoth the best! May they soon celebrate complete victory over the Matari animals, and I pray that you install a new Amarrian military governor in Pator.
Originally by: Freekill The Reclaiming is a way of life not an order the Emperor gives. Although the last Emperor was loved by all the Pax is not his best work.
Have a glorious day citizens.
I haveve a signed copy of Heideran's book. I received it as a reward for recent combat operations against Minmatar terrorists in which I was gravely injured. While it is not my favorite thing to read, it is terribly precious to me. It is hard for me to believe that book was held once by Heideran's sacred flesh.
This is a signed copy, with Heideran's signature at the front: "Semper Pax. Heideran VII".
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.01 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 03:19:58 Edited by: Ezar Vorbarra on 01/07/2004 03:11:32
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Ciar Meara
Meanwhile I would show some respect to those who have continued the struggle for Amarr security and have kept the great Cause of the reclaming alive. Especially one as yourself Xetro, who has not even an incling of standing with Sarum.
PIE Inc. never upheld the Reclaiming. You're a defensive corporation, the Reclaiming is an agressive concept.
If PIE is the shield of the Amarrian Empire, then so be it!
Amarr has been waiting far too long for a sword to quell the rebel uprising in our Matari province.
The shield and the sword have no reason to cross words, we were forged for completely different purposes! Of course we are not meant to agree on everything.
I wish Sabaoth the best! May they soon celebrate complete victory over the Matari animals, and I pray that you install a new Amarrian military governor in Pator.
Originally by: Freekill The Reclaiming is a way of life not an order the Emperor gives. Although the last Emperor was loved by all the Pax is not his best work.
Have a glorious day citizens.
I haveve a signed copy of Heideran's book. I received it as a reward for recent combat operations against Minmatar terrorists in which I was gravely injured. While it is not my favorite thing to read, it is terribly precious to me. It is hard for me to believe that book was held once by Heideran's sacred flesh.
This is a signed copy, with Heideran's signature at the front: "Semper Pax. Heideran VII".
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Tuoni Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.01 05:55:00 -
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** The communications channels opened with a slight spark of static. The com-center processors franticly trying to filter out the interference caused by a long distance transmission**
"To the people of Sabaoth and the Metatron, i bid you a warm welcome. Your words and spirit have been long missed. To the Praetorians i say - well done, you have protected the dim flame from the darkness of the unbelief and corruption.
"But to all Ammarrians i ask, why have you only looked on from afar? Where is the fuel for the fire?As God said to our first Emperor - Thy folly is great, thou hast rejected those I sent to thee in thine hour of need. Thou must redeem thyself to me by thy own merits. " Indeed is the folly of the Amarr great, for we are a house not just divided, but a house scattered. We have chosen to forget our God given task - the land has split against thou, thou must make war upon thy enemies to reclaim what is justly thine - but instead, we smile and clasp hands with our enemeies, and bow to their commands."
The figure removes his hood, and stares intensly out of the viewscreen.
"I shall answer the challenge. Even though i am an old man, old enough to be a father to many here, i have joined with the children in learning to be a pilot, and learning how to bring the fight to the corruptors of our ways.
"Amarr, awake!"
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Tuoni Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.01 05:55:00 -
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** The communications channels opened with a slight spark of static. The com-center processors franticly trying to filter out the interference caused by a long distance transmission**
"To the people of Sabaoth and the Metatron, i bid you a warm welcome. Your words and spirit have been long missed. To the Praetorians i say - well done, you have protected the dim flame from the darkness of the unbelief and corruption.
"But to all Ammarrians i ask, why have you only looked on from afar? Where is the fuel for the fire?As God said to our first Emperor - Thy folly is great, thou hast rejected those I sent to thee in thine hour of need. Thou must redeem thyself to me by thy own merits. " Indeed is the folly of the Amarr great, for we are a house not just divided, but a house scattered. We have chosen to forget our God given task - the land has split against thou, thou must make war upon thy enemies to reclaim what is justly thine - but instead, we smile and clasp hands with our enemeies, and bow to their commands."
The figure removes his hood, and stares intensly out of the viewscreen.
"I shall answer the challenge. Even though i am an old man, old enough to be a father to many here, i have joined with the children in learning to be a pilot, and learning how to bring the fight to the corruptors of our ways.
"Amarr, awake!"
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Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:54:00 -
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A little note of remark:
A little boy feel to the ground, a passing woman said to the boy that he should stand up and stop feeling sorry for him self. The boy stood up and they went different ways.
And greetings to you citizen Tuoni Kyri, it warms me to see that the Kyri family are still around.
Open your eyes, awake to see, the gathering has begun. --
Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |

Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:54:00 -
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A little note of remark:
A little boy feel to the ground, a passing woman said to the boy that he should stand up and stop feeling sorry for him self. The boy stood up and they went different ways.
And greetings to you citizen Tuoni Kyri, it warms me to see that the Kyri family are still around.
Open your eyes, awake to see, the gathering has begun. --
Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |

Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:11:00 -
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While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:11:00 -
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While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
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Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
Nobody is looking to undermine the Emperor but you can not follow blindly either. Open your eyes. Make your own decisions. Dollow the scriptures and you will be doing god's will.
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Tomasz Zelazny Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated "Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |

Freekill
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
Nobody is looking to undermine the Emperor but you can not follow blindly either. Open your eyes. Make your own decisions. Dollow the scriptures and you will be doing god's will.
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Tomasz Zelazny Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incoporated "Honoring the past. Embracing the future" |

Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
Citizen Majaraw Awalabas.
We are all Amarr, born and raised. But we cannot sit back to see foreign forces influence what we as a nation has build.
Look not to serve blind, open your eyes and look upon what needs to be done.
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Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |

Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas While you prefer others to sit in the throne your loyalty to the Emperor should never waver.
Undermining the Emperor undermines the Empire.
The Empire comes before the individual. This includes you.
Citizen Majaraw Awalabas.
We are all Amarr, born and raised. But we cannot sit back to see foreign forces influence what we as a nation has build.
Look not to serve blind, open your eyes and look upon what needs to be done.
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Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |

Terminal Worker
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:41:00 -
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Quote: Glad you are all back, now where is the rest of the old gang?
Have patience. Ships are moved, assets change accounts, the core is coming back together once again.
Have a nice day, citizen.
Lostalus Black Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incorporated Embracing the future, honoring the past. |

Terminal Worker
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:41:00 -
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Quote: Glad you are all back, now where is the rest of the old gang?
Have patience. Ships are moved, assets change accounts, the core is coming back together once again.
Have a nice day, citizen.
Lostalus Black Sabaoth representative to Metatron Incorporated Embracing the future, honoring the past. |

Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra Come now Ardor, there's no need to cast the CVA into a single mold.
Excuse me. I confounded PIE policy with CVA policy. Is there a CVA policy?
PIE says: "The word of our Emperor is law and we will uphold the word of the Emperor."
PIE says: "We will uphold our scriptures and traditions and defend these with our lives from internal and external forces that seek their ruination."
A review from Pax Amarria says: "His (Heideran) determination and powers of persuasion have compelled his own people and others to sacrifice many things they thought sacred to ensure that tranquility will prevail, now and forever."
Is it only me who can see the dilemma? I've burned Pax Amarria. In no way Pax Amarria is reflecting the spirit of the Reclaiming. Doriam continues the way of Heideran. Giving out signed copies of Pax Amarria as reward is prove enough for me.
Those who claim loyality towards the house Sarum should remember that Lady Jamyl Sarum called the succession heretic. She never recognized Doriam as Emperor. House Sarum has not recognized Doriam as Emperor. Should Doriam demand the heads of those who attacked him (f.e. Deathwing) would you follow the order of Doriam or would you support the rebels? This is the question each so called Sarum supporter should ask himself. My monastery will always call Deathwing and all the others welcome as guests if they need a safe haven.
Tuoni Kyri, I am so glad to see you still alive. We never met but I hope we can do this one day. I can understand your desire to fight yourself but I say let the younger pilots do it. Your strength is your wisdom. You are by far more powerful and needed as an orator.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra Come now Ardor, there's no need to cast the CVA into a single mold.
Excuse me. I confounded PIE policy with CVA policy. Is there a CVA policy?
PIE says: "The word of our Emperor is law and we will uphold the word of the Emperor."
PIE says: "We will uphold our scriptures and traditions and defend these with our lives from internal and external forces that seek their ruination."
A review from Pax Amarria says: "His (Heideran) determination and powers of persuasion have compelled his own people and others to sacrifice many things they thought sacred to ensure that tranquility will prevail, now and forever."
Is it only me who can see the dilemma? I've burned Pax Amarria. In no way Pax Amarria is reflecting the spirit of the Reclaiming. Doriam continues the way of Heideran. Giving out signed copies of Pax Amarria as reward is prove enough for me.
Those who claim loyality towards the house Sarum should remember that Lady Jamyl Sarum called the succession heretic. She never recognized Doriam as Emperor. House Sarum has not recognized Doriam as Emperor. Should Doriam demand the heads of those who attacked him (f.e. Deathwing) would you follow the order of Doriam or would you support the rebels? This is the question each so called Sarum supporter should ask himself. My monastery will always call Deathwing and all the others welcome as guests if they need a safe haven.
Tuoni Kyri, I am so glad to see you still alive. We never met but I hope we can do this one day. I can understand your desire to fight yourself but I say let the younger pilots do it. Your strength is your wisdom. You are by far more powerful and needed as an orator.
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