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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.07.06 21:25:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
* Get a new Heir to replace the now dead Jamyl Sarum.
Do not count your chickens before they have hatched, Mr. Vorbarra.
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.07.06 21:25:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
* Get a new Heir to replace the now dead Jamyl Sarum.
Do not count your chickens before they have hatched, Mr. Vorbarra.
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"Amarr alone, delivered herself."
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.06 23:15:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Mijstor Jedann
Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
* Get a new Heir to replace the now dead Jamyl Sarum.
Do not count your chickens before they have hatched, Mr. Vorbarra.
I have accounts of eye witnesses (Hardin, etc..) who saw Lady Jamyl Sarum die first hand. If you have proof otherwise Mr. Jedann, I would be more than happy to see it.
Admittedly, Imperial records currently list Jamyl Sarum as very much alive. Take this with a grain of salt, as the same records list the long dead Heideran as head of the Imperial Family, and they list Doriam KorAzor as a Ni-Kunni! (Our Emperor is actually "Sir Doriam Kor-Azor", a hasty correction made later by these incompetent clerks).
We should petition these dimwitted and ineffectual government officials to fix our records immediately!
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.06 23:15:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Mijstor Jedann
Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
* Get a new Heir to replace the now dead Jamyl Sarum.
Do not count your chickens before they have hatched, Mr. Vorbarra.
I have accounts of eye witnesses (Hardin, etc..) who saw Lady Jamyl Sarum die first hand. If you have proof otherwise Mr. Jedann, I would be more than happy to see it.
Admittedly, Imperial records currently list Jamyl Sarum as very much alive. Take this with a grain of salt, as the same records list the long dead Heideran as head of the Imperial Family, and they list Doriam KorAzor as a Ni-Kunni! (Our Emperor is actually "Sir Doriam Kor-Azor", a hasty correction made later by these incompetent clerks).
We should petition these dimwitted and ineffectual government officials to fix our records immediately!
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.07 02:40:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
We need to focus on quelling the rebellion in our Marati province. That territory is still ours, we have but to reclaim it in the name of God. I am certain that having a Sarum heir on the privy council will only further this goal.
It's good to see that Doriam has not acknowledged the Minmatar Republic as a sovereign state although he had different plans in the past as he was a Heir. To reclaim our territory (I see no reason why we Dark Amarr shouldn't see this regions as ours, too) is a common goal which should have priority. Maybe such a common goal will help to unite us Amarr when the time is coming. The Minmatar became stronger in the past with gallentean help and are no longer that primitive as they were in the past (from a tech point of view).
Maybe house Sarum still has not named a new Heir because they don't want to recognize Doriam as Emperor. Sorry if I repeat myself another (countless) time but Lady Sarum called the succession being heretic so I am not surprised that house Sarum is not making the name of their Heir public. I see this as a sign that house Sarum dislikes Doriam. But it doesn't really matter. As long as Khanid II is alive there can't be another Emperor beside him. (I know Khanid II is not calling himself Emperor but I believe he is the one who should have become Emperor. No need to repeat this conversation again...)
I want to get out of this endless conversation, too. There are no more new arguments and we common people can't change the big politics anyway. We all made our point of view public and none of us will change his mind (unfortunatly, because I am right). On the other hand I really can not promise not to repeat my arguments again because there might come reasons to do it. I don't expect PIE will stop saying 'the Emperors will is law'. We once agreed that we disagree on this point but also that we agree on most other important issues. We should focus on our common goals and let the Heirs do their job.
Pax Amarria and Doriam have to be removed. And nobody will stop me fighting for this goal.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.07 02:40:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Ezar Vorbarra
We need to focus on quelling the rebellion in our Marati province. That territory is still ours, we have but to reclaim it in the name of God. I am certain that having a Sarum heir on the privy council will only further this goal.
It's good to see that Doriam has not acknowledged the Minmatar Republic as a sovereign state although he had different plans in the past as he was a Heir. To reclaim our territory (I see no reason why we Dark Amarr shouldn't see this regions as ours, too) is a common goal which should have priority. Maybe such a common goal will help to unite us Amarr when the time is coming. The Minmatar became stronger in the past with gallentean help and are no longer that primitive as they were in the past (from a tech point of view).
Maybe house Sarum still has not named a new Heir because they don't want to recognize Doriam as Emperor. Sorry if I repeat myself another (countless) time but Lady Sarum called the succession being heretic so I am not surprised that house Sarum is not making the name of their Heir public. I see this as a sign that house Sarum dislikes Doriam. But it doesn't really matter. As long as Khanid II is alive there can't be another Emperor beside him. (I know Khanid II is not calling himself Emperor but I believe he is the one who should have become Emperor. No need to repeat this conversation again...)
I want to get out of this endless conversation, too. There are no more new arguments and we common people can't change the big politics anyway. We all made our point of view public and none of us will change his mind (unfortunatly, because I am right). On the other hand I really can not promise not to repeat my arguments again because there might come reasons to do it. I don't expect PIE will stop saying 'the Emperors will is law'. We once agreed that we disagree on this point but also that we agree on most other important issues. We should focus on our common goals and let the Heirs do their job.
Pax Amarria and Doriam have to be removed. And nobody will stop me fighting for this goal.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.07 08:08:00 -
[97]
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.07 08:08:00 -
[98]
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:01:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/07/2004 10:05:05
Originally by: Deathwing
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
Why can't supporters of Jamyl Sarum accept that at the end she realised that her cause was lost and decided to do the honourable thing? By committing suicide, she very possibly prevented a civil war which could have destroyed the Empire.
Remember - no heir is more important than the Empire.
If, despite her pod self-destructing at Doriam II's inauguration, Jamyl Sarum is still alive, then she would have bought dishonour upon her house.
I like to remember her as someone who, when the chips were down, decided to cease her efforts to claim the throne for the good of the Empire.
I'd also like to second Ezar's call for a new Sarum heir to be named.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:01:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/07/2004 10:05:05
Originally by: Deathwing
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
Why can't supporters of Jamyl Sarum accept that at the end she realised that her cause was lost and decided to do the honourable thing? By committing suicide, she very possibly prevented a civil war which could have destroyed the Empire.
Remember - no heir is more important than the Empire.
If, despite her pod self-destructing at Doriam II's inauguration, Jamyl Sarum is still alive, then she would have bought dishonour upon her house.
I like to remember her as someone who, when the chips were down, decided to cease her efforts to claim the throne for the good of the Empire.
I'd also like to second Ezar's call for a new Sarum heir to be named.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:12:00 -
[101]
As one of those who vied for a chance to be the Lady's Champion, I too would like too see the new Heir of the Sarum Family named.
It would certainly make my life much easier, as i would have a clear person to follow.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:12:00 -
[102]
As one of those who vied for a chance to be the Lady's Champion, I too would like too see the new Heir of the Sarum Family named.
It would certainly make my life much easier, as i would have a clear person to follow.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:22:00 -
[103]
As Rodj has said IF Jamyl Sarum is still alive then she has brought dishonour and disgrace on her House if she did not commit ritual suicide according to Amarr tradition.
It would be quite unbelievable that the leader of a 'traditionalist' House such as Sarum would make such a break and do such damage to Amarr.
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe that Jamyl Sarum did the right and honourable thing - upholding our traditions and preventing an Amarrian civil war.
As Vel Kyri states it is time that a new head of House Sarum was appointed so that this leading Amarr family can once again play its rightful role in the scheme of things!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.07 10:22:00 -
[104]
As Rodj has said IF Jamyl Sarum is still alive then she has brought dishonour and disgrace on her House if she did not commit ritual suicide according to Amarr tradition.
It would be quite unbelievable that the leader of a 'traditionalist' House such as Sarum would make such a break and do such damage to Amarr.
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe that Jamyl Sarum did the right and honourable thing - upholding our traditions and preventing an Amarrian civil war.
As Vel Kyri states it is time that a new head of House Sarum was appointed so that this leading Amarr family can once again play its rightful role in the scheme of things!
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.07.07 17:17:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Hardin
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe...
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mr. Hardin.
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.07.07 17:17:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Hardin
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe...
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mr. Hardin.
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.07 19:33:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Deathwing
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
Mea Culpa Holder Deathwing. Too long have I spent hauling sacred bricks from the Kor-Azor family station orbiting Eclipticum in service to our Emperor.
Ecliptical is indeed the correct name of the hero of the Empire! 
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.07.07 19:33:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Deathwing
Citizen Ezar
First off its Ecliptical that won, Ecliptium or whatever is the planet named after him
Second, it never hurts to have faith in ones heros
I still believe the Lady Sarum has an ace up her sleave
Mea Culpa Holder Deathwing. Too long have I spent hauling sacred bricks from the Kor-Azor family station orbiting Eclipticum in service to our Emperor.
Ecliptical is indeed the correct name of the hero of the Empire!
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.08 02:18:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Mijstor Jedann
Originally by: Hardin
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe...
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mr. Hardin.
Might I just ever so briefly remind you, Mijstor, that your brethren in PIE are faithful to the end.
Snide comments will get you nowhere and nothing.
Nor will pretentiousness.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.08 02:18:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Mijstor Jedann
Originally by: Hardin
I, like Rodj, prefer to believe...
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mr. Hardin.
Might I just ever so briefly remind you, Mijstor, that your brethren in PIE are faithful to the end.
Snide comments will get you nowhere and nothing.
Nor will pretentiousness.
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Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.08 08:46:00 -
[111]
Attack and defence, defence and attack. Noone better then the other, booth with a reason and a path. It is true, do not defend your motives be true to them. Indeed be true to them.
The Awakening has begun, open your eyes. We await the Gathering, it is near. Make your choice, will you be reborn?
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Xetro Xerion
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Posted - 2004.07.08 08:46:00 -
[112]
Attack and defence, defence and attack. Noone better then the other, booth with a reason and a path. It is true, do not defend your motives be true to them. Indeed be true to them.
The Awakening has begun, open your eyes. We await the Gathering, it is near. Make your choice, will you be reborn?
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Knowledge is power, and power comes from the within |
Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:00:00 -
[113]
*sighs*
The Lady Jamyl Sarum is alive. Simply because you have not yet opened your eyes wide enough to see the proof is none of my concern. Nor is it my concern to enlighten you further. As for her reasons, it is not my place to question them.
Eye witnesses saw a capsule implode. Which means what in this day and age? Having a clone is not herecy... it simply prevents an heir becoming Emperor (or Empress)...
I emplore you, remove your blinkers and look to her side. It's clear. 
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:00:00 -
[114]
*sighs*
The Lady Jamyl Sarum is alive. Simply because you have not yet opened your eyes wide enough to see the proof is none of my concern. Nor is it my concern to enlighten you further. As for her reasons, it is not my place to question them.
Eye witnesses saw a capsule implode. Which means what in this day and age? Having a clone is not herecy... it simply prevents an heir becoming Emperor (or Empress)...
I emplore you, remove your blinkers and look to her side. It's clear.
Popular deviant. |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:27:00 -
[115]
Either way
Should the Lady Sarum return to us or an heir be named
My guns are always at the command of the Sarum House
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:27:00 -
[116]
Either way
Should the Lady Sarum return to us or an heir be named
My guns are always at the command of the Sarum House
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:30:00 -
[117]
Mr Narok.
I was there at the ceremony where the Lady Sarum took her life. Her starship blew up, and her pod was seen. But that pod also self destructed - leaving her corpse to float amongst the stars.
She died in honour - do not take that away from her.
I await the naming of her Heir.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:30:00 -
[118]
Mr Narok.
I was there at the ceremony where the Lady Sarum took her life. Her starship blew up, and her pod was seen. But that pod also self destructed - leaving her corpse to float amongst the stars.
She died in honour - do not take that away from her.
I await the naming of her Heir.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.07.08 10:18:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Vel Kyri
She died in honour - do not take that away from her.
I'm not, as I'm not qualified to do so. I'm not questioning her death either. I'm just begging people to think out of the box for once. Guess I'm preaching to the deaf. I'll stop.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.07.08 10:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Vel Kyri
She died in honour - do not take that away from her.
I'm not, as I'm not qualified to do so. I'm not questioning her death either. I'm just begging people to think out of the box for once. Guess I'm preaching to the deaf. I'll stop.
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