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Spider Silva	Posted - 2008.10.15 07:55:00 - [1] So i was 0km from one of the compounds in the damsel in distress lvl4 mission using blasters and i missed every single shot i fired, from 0km range? Surely every shot would hit perfectly, i had to get some distance from it for my guns to actually start hitting. Is this meant to be this way or is it a known problem?
Zurrar Gallente Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.10.15 07:56:00 - [2] tracking/sig radius/skills/gun/ammo/ship all those come in to play Would you like to learn more? (read down if you do) Join a pvp corp, learn to pvp, learn the basics of combat by flying t1 cruisers/frigs.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.15 07:57:00 - [3] For some reason shooting at 0 range completely messes with the firing calculations on turrets.
Spider Silva	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:01:00 - [4] I know the basics, i just think this is wrong and a problem ingame, the moment theres any measured distance the guns hit. They should hit from 0km no problem they are almost touching the target so whats the logical reason for missing? If you hold a gun to someones head and pull the trigger does it miss?
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:06:00 - [5] I think it might be because when you're right on top of something, the turrets can't figure out whether you're aiming behind or in front of you and thus swaps around causing the tracking to go loopy. Or perhaps the calculations are trying to divide by zero?
MenanceWhite Amarr Red Light Navy	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:09:00 - [6] Tracking difficulty is something divided by the distance between you and the target. At zero it's divide by zero = inf = you have 1% chance to hit your target and it will always be wrecking. --- Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses Originally by: Oveur

CCP Applebabe	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:16:00 - [7] If you doubt about it as a bug, you can file a Bug report here. Our bug hunters will get it fixed asap. Applebabe Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:19:00 - [8] this feature has been there for a while now.. if you manage to get with in 0 range of an abbadon he will never hit you.. and you will be 100% safe www.garia.net
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Garia666 this feature has been there for a while now.. if you manage to get with in 0 range of an abbadon he will never hit you.. and you will be 100% safe If the abaddon pilot is a bit silly that is My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Marie Duvolle Toxic Tendencies	Posted - 2008.10.15 08:58:00 - [10] Works the same with shipscanners we found out, at 0 distance scanning returns nothing, ever. Don't stir the hornet's nest
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.15 09:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Zurrar tracking/sig radius/skills/gun/ammo/ship all those come in to play Would you like to learn more? (read down if you do) Join a pvp corp, learn to pvp, learn the basics of combat by flying t1 cruisers/frigs. None of those things u posted come in to play since at 0 u always miss. This has been this way for ages. Would you like to learn more Zurrar? (read down if you do) Join a pvp corp, learn to pvp, learn the basics of combat by flying t1 cruisers/frigs. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Strill	Posted - 2008.10.15 09:06:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP Applebabe Please file a Bug report here. Our bug hunters will investigate it asap. But it's always been like that. When you're 0km from the target the tracking formula tries to divide by zero and just tells you that you missed. I can't imagine that a dev wouldn't know about this when it's a basic piece of info in tracking guides.
Jac Straw Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 09:08:00 - [13] Calculations with a 0 is bad m'kay?
Freyya GeoCorp. Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.10.15 10:09:00 - [14] It's fun watching a missile go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill it pops because it can't figure ot you're at 0m from it's owner... ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 10:19:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Applebabe Please file a Bug report here. Our bug hunters will investigate it asap. It's not a bug, it's a "divide by zero" feature _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.15 10:32:00 - [16] The really funny part is when you are trying to hit structures that are 0 km away. You can easily navigate within them, but you have no chance of hitting them with your guns. This bug/feature has been going for ages. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Letri Bimmet Gallente Estrale Frontiers BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.10.15 10:55:00 - [17] Originally by: Freyya It's fun watching a missile go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill it pops because it can't figure ot you're at 0m from it's owner... I lolled
Laerise Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.15 11:00:00 - [18] Better miss a few shots than divide by zero :D CCP would never let an "oh shi-" moment get into their money grubbing way ;)
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.15 11:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Laerise Better miss a few shots than divide by zero :D CCP would never let an "oh shi-" moment get into their money grubbing way ;) If it's a divide-by-zero error, it would be easily avoidable and fixable. The fact the distance is zero would make that type of error an easy suspect, but I don't think CCP's programmers are that incompetent. Instead, I think it must be caused by something else. -- (CCP Inconsistency) Why cover it up? We KNOW it's all just about money
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.15 11:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Freyya It's fun watching a missile go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill it pops because it can't figure ot you're at 0m from it's owner... But it don't work that way. Missile hits without problems at range 0. It is only guns that miss at range 0.
Fennicus Amarr Shoot To Thrill	Posted - 2008.10.15 11:36:00 - [21] Edited by: Fennicus on 15/10/2008 11:36:51 If it is indeed a division-by-zero problem, it sounds like the devs need to learn about l'H(pital's rule: firing from 0 at a stationary target should certainly have a finite limit on the targeting calculations...
Freyya GeoCorp. Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.10.15 12:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Venkul Mul But it don't work that way. Missile hits without problems at range 0. It is only guns that miss at range 0. Well actually i encountered it quite a while ago so it is indeed possible. Unless they decided to fix it....(waits for it) It happened when i undocked (back when the angle was simply 90 degrees off undock point with stopping thrust) and got stuck inside a corpmate's raven. He then proceeded to lock and fire on me and i juist kept lolling watching the missiles circle around our ships untill they exploded. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.15 12:09:00 - [23] Tracking doesn't work at 0m, and never has. If you move to 1m away it will magically work again. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Anubis Kerberos	Posted - 2008.10.15 12:51:00 - [24] Then the solution is as simple as incorporating a simple line of code that says "at 0 km, range = 1m" or something to that effect. It really isn't a hard problem to solve...
DubanFP Caldari Kylia Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.15 13:20:00 - [25] Edited by: DubanFP on 15/10/2008 13:20:16 Originally by: Anubis Kerberos Then the solution is as simple as incorporating a simple line of code that says "at 0 km, range = 1m" or something to that effect. It really isn't a hard problem to solve... The problem is you're acting like it's a bug. It's amusing but it's also just how the formula works. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't mater to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Icutty Lotz Tides of Silence KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:04:00 - [26] Originally by: Freyya It's fun watching a missile go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill it pops because it can't figure ot you're at 0m from it's owner... like this Originally by: CCP Wrangler do not start your own thread or I will omgwtfbbqpwn you
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:12:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Applebabe Please file a Bug report here. Our bug hunters will investigate it asap. lol Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
Freyya GeoCorp. Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Icutty Lotz Originally by: Freyya It's fun watching a missile go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill it pops because it can't figure ot you're at 0m from it's owner... like this Lol pretty much like that yeah ^^ ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:16:00 - [29] Edited by: Demitria Fernir on 15/10/2008 14:16:31 http://eve-search.com/thread/674038/page/1 theorically, at 0m you're in the same position of your target, doing infinite orbits/second, doing inf rad/s. i may be wrong, but meh, who cares? EDIT: LINKIIIIIII FIEEEEE DD _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Miss Interpret Gallente B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.10.15 14:16:00 - [30] Originally by: Seth Ruin I don't think CCP's programmers are that incompetent. The same programmers who took 5 years to take a feature and tell us it was a bug the whole time? I'm not a Vegetarian.

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