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Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:04:00 - [121] Frankly put, the x series has a steeper learning curve than eve. Documentation in the earlier games was non-existant (x3r had nearly the same exact manual out of the box that x2 did... and it was still crap back then). x3tc is very unforgiving if you have no clue what you are doing. However, for docking, I suggest manual flying. Not only does it save time, its more fun ^^ (timing cutting your engines to match exactly when you land on that green light takes some practice though... and lining up your first capship for a proper landing at an eq dock isnt exactly easy either, granted it is rather nice seeing that first manual landing go perfectly) With x3tc they actually added the encyclopedia (personal, advanced, encyclopedia) that has information on all ships, weapons, shields, wares, tech... anything that you have seen is in there, along with where to get it. use these things... Do some of the plot missions just to get an idea of what you are doing, and so you know a few more sectors. Once you did that, feel free to advance on your own, finding stuff, etc. The beginning phase of the game is the best part; working up from nothing to your first real ship... its better than eve in some ways Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.11.05 06:37:00 - [122] Noob question: I spend a awful lot of time patching holes in my M4 fighter (Elite), because it's fitted with only 2 5MW shields. I know I can buy 2 25MW shield in terran stations, but they require a rank I'm not going to have before a while. Is there anywhere else I can buy those shields sooner that that? ------------------------------------------
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.05 07:40:00 - [123] The Split also sell 25MW Shields in their Stations. Also I believe there are some Production Plants in the Territories of other Races. But with all Races it is basically the same game mechanic, without enough standing, they will not sell you the equipment. Also, if you are flying a M4, it will not be able to fit 25MW Shields. This Class is restricted to 5MW Shields.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.11.05 09:28:00 - [124] Edited by: Shadowsword on 05/11/2008 09:28:09 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: ReaperOfSly How are you supposed to scan the pirate base? I've got a freight scanner, what else is needed? Get closer... like, REALLY close. If I go any closer, I'll be bumping off the sides. When scanning ships, I've only had to get within about 2km of the target. You have to get within 500m for the scanning to start. You can't do it from the side where there's docking ports, you need to come from "above" or "under" the station and head for the center of it. It says in the Elite stats you can fit 25MJ shields. I like it's basic weapons a lot (particle accelerators, if I remember correctly). They're energy hogs, requiring you to hold your fire until you really have good chances to hit, but God do they hurt. You can kill a M5 with just 2 seconds of fire if you hit it. ------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.05 09:54:00 - [125] Originally by: Shadowsword Edited by: Shadowsword on 05/11/2008 09:28:09 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: ReaperOfSly How are you supposed to scan the pirate base? I've got a freight scanner, what else is needed? Get closer... like, REALLY close. If I go any closer, I'll be bumping off the sides. When scanning ships, I've only had to get within about 2km of the target. You have to get within 500m for the scanning to start. You can't do it from the side where there's docking ports, you need to come from "above" or "under" the station and head for the center of it. It says in the Elite stats you can fit 25MJ shields. I like it's basic weapons a lot (particle accelerators, if I remember correctly). They're energy hogs, requiring you to hold your fire until you really have good chances to hit, but God do they hurt. You can kill a M5 with just 2 seconds of fire if you hit it. It helps that M5s have hulls and shields made out of paper. I'm currently doing the Terran storyline in a Buster Sentinel I found in Akeela's Beacon. It has 2 guns equipped which seem to be quite similar to the electro cannon things the Terrans have. The ship is painfully slow (144m/s), but it has 4 shield slots which is nice. And as long as I strafe, nothing ever hits me anyway. ____________________
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.11.05 11:40:00 - [126] I sold all my Elites. Painfully slow. If it's slow, it better have damn good shields! I'm still waiting to get the HQ so I can reserve-engineer the Falcon Sentinel. M3 fighters with a rear turret and 400,000MJ shields... - Infectious -
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.05 12:13:00 - [127] Originally by: Rawr Cristina I sold all my Elites. Painfully slow. If it's slow, it better have damn good shields! I'm still waiting to get the HQ so I can reserve-engineer the Falcon Sentinel. M3 fighters with a rear turret and 400,000MJ shields... The falcon sentinel can fit 2x125MJ shields can't it? At least, it could in X3R. Is it still in the same place (Unknown sector close to Getsu Fune)? I'm a bit annoyed because the abandoned Nova in Unknown close to Maelstrom doesn't seem to be there. ____________________
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:11:00 - [128] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Rawr Cristina I sold all my Elites. Painfully slow. If it's slow, it better have damn good shields! I'm still waiting to get the HQ so I can reserve-engineer the Falcon Sentinel. M3 fighters with a rear turret and 400,000MJ shields... The falcon sentinel can fit 2x125MJ shields can't it? At least, it could in X3R. Is it still in the same place (Unknown sector close to Getsu Fune)? I'm a bit annoyed because the abandoned Nova in Unknown close to Maelstrom doesn't seem to be there. Yes it's in the same place. 125mj shields don't exist anymore though, it goes: 1, 5, 25, 200, 1000, 2000 and the Falcon Sentinel can support 2x 200. (though if you don't have the HQ you can just buy Falcon Haulers instead, which still have 1x 200mj shield, go 130ms or so and have a pretty big cargo) - Infectious -
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.06 19:07:00 - [129] How do you get the HQ btw? In X3R, it was by doing Bala Gi missions, but I assume it's different now? ____________________
Logi3 Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:13:00 - [130] Hey all, Been playing it for a week now, and im finally able to fight and not die! Took me a few days to realise that you need to strafe and dodge fire ;) Im playing the Assassin with the Mamba. I have upgraded the ship with faster turn/engine etc but i have the stock shields and weapons. Im not sure what weapons fit, how do i work out what fits? Can i upgrade the shields? I bought bigger shields but they just went into my cargo and not installed in the ship! Also not sure what ship to upgrade to next ----

FlameGlow Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 13:14:00 - [131] Edited by: FlameGlow on 07/11/2008 13:14:16 Originally by: Logi3 Hey all, Been playing it for a week now, and im finally able to fight and not die! Took me a few days to realise that you need to strafe and dodge fire ;) Im playing the Assassin with the Mamba. I have upgraded the ship with faster turn/engine etc but i have the stock shields and weapons. Im not sure what weapons fit, how do i work out what fits? Can i upgrade the shields? I bought bigger shields but they just went into my cargo and not installed in the ship! Also not sure what ship to upgrade to next Check your ship info - it will say what weapons you can fit(you can check info of ships in shipyard by pressing i when their line is selected) Also you can check weapon info and it will list all the ships it can be mounted on. _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:29:00 - [132] Those Energy Chaingun things work well on the Mamba, you could have a look at those? Maybe mix some HEPTs with them ? - Infectious -
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.07 20:07:00 - [133] Oh my God. M8s are SOOO easy to capture. I've fought three of them today, they all bailed. Easy 9 million. They don't have forward guns so all you have to do is strafe so that you're always in front of them. I managed to confuse the mission NPC that was following me around. I used my transporter to move into a different ship, then sent my old ship far away using its jumpdrive. The mission AI went off in search of it even though it's no longer occupied. ____________________
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.07 22:08:00 - [134] Dunno about m8s, they seem to fail miserably for me, and die all the time. I want to buy myself a tl, flail fabs, and use a m7m :D Those things look amazing, but unfortunately i dont seem to have the cash atm :( However, I do have a cerberus. It seems to turn REALLY fast, even though its supposed to be slow. I can track m3s with the main guns if i try hard enough >.> Youknow, i might try those m8s someday. Their damage potential seems rather much... do they use any missiles other than their hammers or whatever? Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.07 22:45:00 - [135] Yeah, I don't really see the point of M8s other than to capture and sell. Used my money from the first three to get myself an Argon Eclipse. I am dismayed to find out that the Eclipse is 26m/s slower than it was in X3R. Is the Cerberus an M6? I got a bit annoyed with M6s in X3R because they died too easily unless they had heavy escort. Are they better now? ____________________
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.07 22:56:00 - [136] cerb is an m7, actually. Turrets seem to fail miserably though; flaks cant hit jack.. m6's are largly the same; they have better shields, but that is only due to the change from 125mj to 200mj shielding. Dragon is still my favorite :D CIG's are now the basic m6 weapon, which is reasonably effective. M6's in general are not good for anything other than turrets and anti-capships. Still lack real armaments and laser generators, but they are still good. Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.08 00:25:00 - [137] Yay, bagged another M8. Why is it that "Very hard" and "Very easy" combat missions are exactly the same, with no variation in difficulty whatsoever? ____________________
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.11.08 01:00:00 - [138] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 08/11/2008 01:00:51 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yay, bagged another M8. Why is it that "Very hard" and "Very easy" combat missions are exactly the same, with no variation in difficulty whatsoever? Only on station defence missions... Don't get too used to it, espec. when it asks you to patrol some sector before throwing over 200 Xenon at you (and only you ) - Infectious -
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.08 01:20:00 - [139] I, without thinking, saw a sector patrol mission labeled pretty damn impossible and, again, without thought, decided it would be a good idea to try it in my cerb. I see the xenon spawning, and I was like "oh ok, a bunch of P's. I can do this". After the first round of P's, i see a K appear. Then another. Then a few more. Then another half dozen. Then everything stopped moving, and turrets broke :( I started clearing out the Ks by the south gate, working on them one by one with my 6 CIG's... slow, slow work, but it gets done. Eventually I work through two or three of them, when they come alive... oh **, i think, but I manage to stay alive and clear the area. I kill off everything I can see, and get the incoming message; 70m in hard cash for my work. (800k per P, 5m ish per K). I fire up my lazcorp scanner (it drops adv sats around you to increase scanner range). And I see ANOTHER half dozen K's, and a compliment of P's and L's and company sitting at the east gate. . At that point, I just left >.< Originally by:** Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.08 11:25:00 - [140] I tried playing X2 and X3 but I found it very fustrating looking for the gates. Maybe I missed a really easy way to find them but it kind of spoiled the game for me. *Let My People Go*

Captator Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.11.08 11:33:00 - [141] Originally by: Poreuomai I tried playing X2 and X3 but I found it very fustrating looking for the gates. Maybe I missed a really easy way to find them but it kind of spoiled the game for me. Use the map, they are normally along the coordinate axes (map is either period or comma, cannot remember). Are there battleship class (M0) yet? What are the new classes m5 scout m4 light fighter m3 heavy fighter m2 carrier m1 destroyer m6 corvette what are the new classes? (if it is already said in the thread just direct me to the page)
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.08 12:14:00 - [142] There's the M7 which is like an overpowered version of an M6. There's also the M8 which is useless because it only has rear mounted guns. ____________________
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.08 13:27:00 - [143] Edited by: Poreuomai on 08/11/2008 13:27:36 Originally by: Captator they are normally along the coordinate axes Ah, that would make finding the gates easier, thank you. *Let My People Go*
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.08 14:09:00 - [144] Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 08/11/2008 13:27:36 Originally by: Captator they are normally along the coordinate axes Ah, that would make finding the gates easier, thank you. There's a slighly cheesy way of finding gates if you have a jumpdrive and can spare 5 energy cells. Simply go to your ship's autopilot command console and tell your ship to "Jump and fly to position". Select a position close to where you think the gate ought to be, and your jumpdrive will take you right to that gate. ____________________
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.08 18:09:00 - [145] I wouldnt say that m8's are useless... you just need to shoot lots and lots of missiles at someone before they become effective. at 600k damage a missile( i think), they become the smallest ship capable of putting out that much hurt. Problem is, missile defense is rather easy. Ive been meaning to take one of those, and some fighter drones or m5's, and see how well ships defend against missiles when they are busy getting shot up by my wingmen, but i would have to build the infrastructure to support an m8 size craft first. Id need missile fabs (granted, those are easy), some time, and enough m5s... Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.11.08 20:38:00 - [146] here's a question, where do you get all these uber mission payouts everyone is talking about? Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.08 21:18:00 - [147] Go to commonwealth space, and look for stations that have little red target icons above them. Comm with them, and ask the guy with the target icon for a job. If it is a sector patrol mission (patrol this sector and shoot hostiles), say sure. Every time you blow something up, you get monies. Once you finish the mission (kill everything, or go 20km away from the nearest hostile), you get the payout. Usually, its around 500k per m6 kill, and smaller amounts for m3 and such. Killing lots of hostile ships yields high payouts... The missions scale with your combat rank, meaning that the higher rank you have, the more stuff spawns. therefore, the higher your fight rank, the more stuff spawns, more payouts. Its great and all, but these are too easy to find. Nobody tells you it is going to be that hard... Usually you are going to find yourself fighting against a HUGE fleet of hostile m6 and such, with tons of support. I suggest taking these in sectors with friendly forces around, preferably a few m2s.... Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.11.08 21:56:00 - [148] Edited by: Shadowsword on 08/11/2008 21:56:09 Just went from an Elite (M4) to a Nova Vanguard (M3), and the differences are amazing. Shield five times tougher, weapons regenerating much faster (and more of them), and just as fast as the M4. Suddenly I can do missions rated hard or very hard and I end up worrying more about collisions than actual damage taken... ------------------------------------------
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.08 22:09:00 - [149] lol yea, the differences between an m4 and m3 are huge... except you only really have about twice the buffer than an elite, shields regenerate better. I liked the nova raider better because of its speed though; ill take speed over pure firepower or shields any day. Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.11.08 23:04:00 - [150] Try an M3+ like the Argon Elite. It's practically indestructible. I'm saving up now to get my first M7. I'll work up my race reputations so I have a choice of which one when I have the money. ____________________



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