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RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 18:55:00 -
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Huma Dragonis wrote:During a major fleet battle today in Tenal, one of the major editors of EveNews24.com decided to type racist remarks in local chat.
[18:05:30] riverini > DIE NIGGERS1 DIE!!!
The CFC members having been negatively affeccted by these racist remarks did the appropriate thing, and began to file petitions with CCP. However, within moments, a GM informed the CFC members that they should no longer file any petitions, and many petitions filed by members are already closed.
The CFC members were then told "just block him"
Blocking someone is not an action that all members of the CFC should have to take because another eve player decides to post racist remarks in local chat.
CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?
So he shot a character with an offensive character name? DIE ( racist character name) DIE!!
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2012.04.01 18:56:00 -
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Vanir Tsero wrote:Huma Dragonis wrote:Vanir Tsero wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again.
EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.
If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.
If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.
Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it. This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident. I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is. I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me. It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Buttface on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face? If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have noone to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation.
I see, so "higher standard" and "in game vs out of game" only applies when it is people you don't like.
Which has been blatantly obvious to everyone with two eyes open this whole time. The Mittani was targeted because he said something stupid and was a goon. No one batted an eye when BoB members wanted to kill, in real life, goons. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
969
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Posted - 2012.04.01 18:58:00 -
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Shogun Archer wrote:Offensive word, yes, but what if the guy that said it was black? You have to figure out if he/she was black first for it to be considered racist... 
No, only depends on the humour/believes/whatever of the GM charged of your petition, since this game's rules and forum are mostly player driven each and everyone has his own ones.
Who's right who's wrong? -ask a GM, they have omniscience of truth and law everywhere 
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RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:00:00 -
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Voith wrote:Vanir Tsero wrote:Huma Dragonis wrote:Vanir Tsero wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again.
EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.
If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.
If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.
Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it. This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident. I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is. I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me. It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Buttface on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face? If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have noone to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation. I see, so "higher standard" and "in game vs out of game" only applies when it is people you don't like. Which has been blatantly obvious to everyone with two eyes open this whole time. The Mittani was targeted because he said something stupid and was a goon. No one batted an eye when BoB members wanted to kill, in real life, goons.
We need more evidence then some possibly edited screen caps is all. If its true. Then it needs GM to action it.
Its not like we have a fanfest unedited video to look at or anything.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
266
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:00:00 -
[35] - Quote
Technically he's saying "NIGGERS1" |
Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
22
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:03:00 -
[36] - Quote
Huma Dragonis wrote:During a major fleet battle today in Tenal, one of the major editors of EveNews24.com decided to type racist remarks in local chat.
[18:05:30] riverini > DIE NIGGERS1 DIE!!!
The CFC members having been negatively affeccted by these racist remarks did the appropriate thing, and began to file petitions with CCP. However, within moments, a GM informed the CFC members that they should no longer file any petitions, and many petitions filed by members are already closed.
The CFC members were then told "just block him"
Blocking someone is not an action that all members of the CFC should have to take because another eve player decides to post racist remarks in local chat.
CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?
If i filed one petition for every racist remark typed by goons in local id had as many petitions as your goons combined filed on that case by now.
Stop crying because your dude said something inappropriate live while thousands of people were watching. |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:03:00 -
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I want to see the full unedited screencap.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
969
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:05:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:Technically he's saying "NIGGERS1"
So there are no rules in game neither against character racist, insulting or sexual names?
Well actually I'd like to see Evoke and some other german corps post logs of local when they fight but, knowing how polite and above hate those people are, they haven't wasted their time doing so (yet)
If CCP should perma ban people for the insults those receive daily Eve would be rid of half of it's players.
Cya jerks. |
Brock Nelson
516
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:06:00 -
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Is it me or am I seeing more whine threads than usual?
Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:07:00 -
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goon misdirection campaign failure #10058
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
126
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:07:00 -
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the point is it isn't nice to make such generalizations because there were probably other people in local as well
i for one would be hurt if called minmatar
The Order of the Falcon or Hin +ˇslenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Xlera
Universal Fleet Operations
1
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:08:00 -
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Vanir Tsero wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again.
EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.
If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.
If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.
Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.
It is a legitimate strategy and it is probably the most effective and efficient way to eliminate someone you don't want. By teaching them a lesson I assume you mean go blow them up. This not only puts your assets in danger but blowing someone up hardly does anything to them, they will be back with the same ship, same fitting (maybe even a more effective fitting customized to face your ship) after several minutes.
Having them banned via a petition involves no risk on your part and it will render them ineffective for the duration of the ban maybe even permanently. Using this golden opportunity won't make you weak, it makes you smart. PvP in EvE is more than just shooting each other with ships.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:10:00 -
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we burned a hostile spy and we're interviewing him on comms ^_^
Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
188
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
When you petition someone in EVE for unacceptable behavior, you pretty much never hear back from CCP of what action, if any, they took. This is because in a standard case disciplinary communication between the player and CCP is generally always a private matter. You are not entitled to know how many warnings or even temporary bans someone has had. The Mittani case and a couple of other cases have been exceptions, because of the act having been so public to begin with.
However, in general case you just get the standard petition answer of "thank you for bringing this into our attention..." and petition is then immediately closed. This does not mean CCP will not do anything. It means they have read your report and will investigate and take any action they deem necessary. If they are already aware of some problem and have decided to work on it, they do not need further petitions on the same subject. They probably asked people to stop spamming them with those petitions so that they can work on the issue instead of closing and replying all the petitions. |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:21:00 -
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There was an apology posted on twitter in response to this.
To the goons that means its OK over and done with, and they will of course leave him alone now.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
498
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:23:00 -
[46] - Quote
Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right?
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
395
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:24:00 -
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Xlera wrote:PvP in EvE is more than just shooting each other with ships.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes.
Hey, that's what 0.01isk warriors and "minerals I mine are free" industrialists all say.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Fractal Muse
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:25:00 -
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Huma Dragonis wrote:CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?
The best course of action in this situation is to file a complaint via petition for the offensive remarks. If they were actually made and not made up or faked.
Allow CCP to deal with the matter in accordance to their policies. If the individual in question did what is claimed then CCP will settle it. |
GondriA
BLUE EAGLES
Pinked
4
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:30:00 -
[49] - Quote
Huma Dragonis wrote:Vanir Tsero wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again.
EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.
If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.
If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.
Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.
That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it. This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.
u managed to see the difference or u r blind? |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
703
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:32:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right?
Yeah this out to be funny watching them swim in hypocrisy.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Digital Messiah
Claymore Inc
148
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:34:00 -
[51] - Quote
Welcome to the forums, where opinions go to die : /
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Tri Vetra
Ascetic Virtues
10
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:34:00 -
[52] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right? Yeah this out to be funny watching them swim in hypocrisy.
are you ******** |
Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
Fractal Muse wrote:Huma Dragonis wrote:CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?
The best course of action in this situation is to file a complaint via petition for the offensive remarks. If they were actually made and not made up or faked. Allow CCP to deal with the matter in accordance to their policies. If the individual in question did what is claimed then CCP will settle it.
The guy admitted to it, and to orchestrating getting Mittani removed by framing the issue.
Framing is far more important that people realize.
It wasn't that Mittani made an off color joke, it was that he was "encouraging CYBER-BULLYING". It wasn't that the guy is notorious among hulk-a-geddon participants for threatening suicide if you don't give him cash. Oh no, he was a pure innocent set upon by a CYBER BULLY.
By the same context, Goons failed to frame riverini's comments. They should have framed it as "White Supremacist EN24/7 Editor admits to framing the Mittani (some form of minority)." |
Lord Reid
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:38:00 -
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First we can't Cyber Bully, then we can't kill people in high sec without getting blown up.....and now we cannot give the darker toned among us nickames. Somebody is taking all of the lovely sand out of the sandbox....
Official Goonwaffe Recruitment Officer |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:46:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right? Yeah this out to be funny watching them swim in hypocrisy.
coming from the guy who hasn't let the whole thing rest
HILARIOUS
Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
499
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:49:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right? Yeah this out to be funny watching them swim in hypocrisy.
Pretty sure you mistook who I was making fun of.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
KrakizBad wrote:RougeOperator wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Indeed, once an apology is given and remorse is shown, there's no reason to pursue things farther. Right? Right? Yeah this out to be funny watching them swim in hypocrisy. Pretty sure you mistook who I was making fun of.
Hi... yes.
Can I make question?
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
116
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:51:00 -
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k'ryn wrote:http://i.imgur.com/vEsEa.png
New words from a CSM Candidate. Tsk Tsk Tsk
Wanna bet before that was said some Goon said "die spics die" ?
And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed...
-á |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
446
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:51:00 -
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oh look. words that only have meaning because humans put symbolism in the letters and words.
the real crime is if you mis spell this "n word", and replace the ER with A its ok
(only said N word cause of fear of ban) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:54:00 -
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What dpes that mean, I haven't heard the term before.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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