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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.06.29 15:48:00 -
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As the topic says, must have lost 7 drones since DT today mining in 0.5....
Chrome Born.
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Fighterpilotjp
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Posted - 2004.06.29 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Fighterpilotjp on 29/06/2004 15:55:55
Don't launch them until you have been targeted by all the NPCs, or until they are within 10KM of you. I follow these guidelines when using heavies.
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Jeswyn
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Posted - 2004.06.29 17:16:00 -
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I lost 2 Hammerheads yesterday. To my surprise the Amarr scout suddently went after them after I had him down to 5% armor and shot them down with light missiles.
Never had that happen before.
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Eiskalt
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Posted - 2004.06.29 18:09:00 -
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Actually even if I am the target the NPC will still shoot at the Drones... really really sucky! They should either make drones much more durable or missles should nearly never hit them.
For example I fought 2 100k pirates, I was at ~20km range, launched my drones (8 ogres) and lost 6 of them. Why? Well the pirates were still shooting at me, but the startet shooting missles at drones, killing them within a few seconds.
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.06.29 18:12:00 -
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hmm..
nasty.. npc's have a way to do what players can't..
means eother players are crap.. or soemthing is wrong with the npc's
or perhaps.. just maybe.. drones have been broken for an age.. and are jut beggining to be fiixed?
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.06.29 18:47:00 -
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Yep I always have harvies out when am mining which I scoop when rats appear, so by the time I have em in and lauch my scouts, the rats are generally attacking me.
I use a mixture of hammers and Infiltrators, that until today used to take a lil time to clear the spawn but did the job fine. Once in a while I would lose one or two in a heavy spawn but never lost 5 in one spawn before.
As for them getting fixed, the pvp issue with drones is the range they fire at if am not mistaken, cmon lets be honest if you cant use drones to protect you from 0.5 rat spawns you might as well not bother mining at all.
Dont bother flaming me that I should not be mining solo or should get heavy's to be able to mine in a 0.5 system until today I did it fine thanks.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.06.29 18:47:00 -
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Players can't? Where'd you get that silly notion? Taking out the drones is the quickest way to reduce offensive firepower coming from a target. When fighting with my Raven, my first salvo of torpedoes is usually launched at a ship's drones - that's 100dmg/sec less to worry about for the rest of the firefight.
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.06.29 21:55:00 -
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Hmm lots of reads no reply's I guess its just me or am posting in the wrong place.
Chrome Born
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Capt Silk
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Posted - 2004.06.29 23:28:00 -
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I noticed this too, I lost 4 light drones today to NPC frigates 10k and below  . No missiles, wierd thing was, I never saw them get damaged, but %100 armor... BAM dead. Strange...
-Capt Silk
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Managalar
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Posted - 2004.06.29 23:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Chrome Born
Hmm lots of reads no reply's I guess its just me or am posting in the wrong place.
Chrome Born
It isn't that this is the wrong place as such, but I have only lost one drone in the last couple of days. I have not noticed more agressive drone targetting.
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.06.30 03:50:00 -
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istvaan shogaatsu
you made the same assumption there, that ccp has made about the drone issue
ie;- that everyone flies a battleship
now. in my frigate, if i could find 16 buddies brave enough to try it..
we might be able to strip your drones, and still have neough of our force left to kill you
assuming you don't log, don't have warp stabilisers, don't have a large smartbomb, and we don't run out of ammunition
i know what would happen to a tanked bs that met 16 interceptors, if he didn't have drones, or large smartbombs... he'd be waking up in a tank, sans battleship
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.07.01 02:20:00 -
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Just to reply...
I've been hunting in 0.0 last night and gave up using drones in the end. Before I could take all aggro, tank my wossnames off then release drones safe in the knowledge that the drones would never get aggro from the npc's. Now though CRUISER rats seem to switch targets a bit. This usually means I'm down a drone or two every fight. I've stopped using drones now until all the cruisers have been wiped out and that's working fine.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.07.01 02:20:00 -
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Just to reply...
I've been hunting in 0.0 last night and gave up using drones in the end. Before I could take all aggro, tank my wossnames off then release drones safe in the knowledge that the drones would never get aggro from the npc's. Now though CRUISER rats seem to switch targets a bit. This usually means I'm down a drone or two every fight. I've stopped using drones now until all the cruisers have been wiped out and that's working fine.
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:30:00 -
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Yes...
Launched 6 heavy drones when frigates got to sub 5km. Set them killing frigates as usual - few seconds later was stunned to see 3 were dead.
Usually I only lose drones if I send them after cruisers or BS. To lose three that quickly did seem unusual...
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:30:00 -
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Yes...
Launched 6 heavy drones when frigates got to sub 5km. Set them killing frigates as usual - few seconds later was stunned to see 3 were dead.
Usually I only lose drones if I send them after cruisers or BS. To lose three that quickly did seem unusual...
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Nanya
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Posted - 2004.07.02 20:56:00 -
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Waiting till you are targeted is not enough, they will switch targets fast :(]. You have to wait until you take a hit from all enemies and then launch.
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Nanya
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Posted - 2004.07.02 20:56:00 -
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Waiting till you are targeted is not enough, they will switch targets fast :(]. You have to wait until you take a hit from all enemies and then launch.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.02 23:17:00 -
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The last patch made them switch targets more often. Previously, if one player had the NPCs attention, it would not switch. However, that seems to have changed. I am not sure what the changing schema is (biggest threat, easiest kill, closest enemy or whatever) but rest assured it is more realistic.
I think this is a real adapt or die situation, where NPCs just got smarter, not a bug.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.02 23:17:00 -
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The last patch made them switch targets more often. Previously, if one player had the NPCs attention, it would not switch. However, that seems to have changed. I am not sure what the changing schema is (biggest threat, easiest kill, closest enemy or whatever) but rest assured it is more realistic.
I think this is a real adapt or die situation, where NPCs just got smarter, not a bug.
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:11:00 -
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not to mention they lock onto your drones instantly...
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:11:00 -
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not to mention they lock onto your drones instantly...
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WiseMan Ari
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:19:00 -
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I lost 3 harvies when i was mining earlier today in 0,5. It was realy weird, rats spawned at 10k and attacked harvies first, lost one before i could scoop them and the other 3 i was using were scooped to drone bay, then about 10 min later 2 of them just dissapeared from my drone bay  I have petioned it, so i'll see what happens
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WiseMan Ari
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:19:00 -
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I lost 3 harvies when i was mining earlier today in 0,5. It was realy weird, rats spawned at 10k and attacked harvies first, lost one before i could scoop them and the other 3 i was using were scooped to drone bay, then about 10 min later 2 of them just dissapeared from my drone bay I have petioned it, so i'll see what happens
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