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Coeus Moirae	Posted - 2008.10.24 01:55:00 - [1] Some screenshots i got a few mins ago http://fc29.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/5/8/orca3_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc13.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/297/9/7/orca2_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/7/b/orca1_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg
xXxKatsujinxXx	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:00:00 - [2] FIRST!
Valuv Placeholder Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Coeus Moirae Some screenshots i got a few mins ago Clicky 1 Clicky 2 Clicky 3 Fixed for you.
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:08:00 - [4] 45 days to get a one run BPC? ouch. __________________________________________________________ Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
Coeus Moirae	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:10:00 - [5] thanks i'm just too lazy to make links
Coeus Moirae	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:15:00 - [6] and here's the rest of it Clicky 4 Clicky 5 Clicky 6 Clicky 7
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:44:00 - [7] What are the prereq's on the cap indust skill?
Coeus Moirae	Posted - 2008.10.24 02:52:00 - [8] Primary: Spaceship command V Secondary: Mining barge V Astrogeology III Science IV Mining IV Industry V Tertiary: Mining Foreman III Leadership I
Stork DK Minmatar Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.10.24 06:54:00 - [9] Stupid sensor strength is stupid.. Falcons cant permajam that.
destinationZERO Minmatar Pain Management Services	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:40:00 - [10] dont get into a fight in it then?
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.24 07:43:00 - [11] Can anyone check is the orca can perma-run a XL shield booster II and invul field II with just one cap recharger II?
Snow Banshee	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:36:00 - [12] Edited by: Snow Banshee on 24/10/2008 10:36:47 Originally by: Shadowsword Can anyone check is the orca can perma-run a XL shield booster II and invul field II with just one cap recharger II? are you kidding, right? It shouldnt, this ship is meant for high sec, so a med shield booster if far over the real needs. In any case it realy does not matter since anyone and his alt will fit them with 3xLSEII ( in other words: passive tanking it)
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:57:00 - [13] What make you think it's meant for high-sec only?
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Shadowsword What make you think it's meant for high-sec only? Because you have the Rorqual for low-sec. Also... this ship seems to lack a jump-drive.
Snow Banshee	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:15:00 - [15] Edited by: Snow Banshee on 24/10/2008 11:15:42 Originally by: Shadowsword What make you think it's meant for high-sec only? Lets consider it this way: Rorqual can do everything the orca can do, but better. Can even jump directly to the system instead of being killed by gate campers in the fool attempt to go in a low sec mining op. You CAN bring an orca in low sec.. even in Nullsec, but there is not any valid reason to do that. The orca come into play where rorquall cannot be. And this place is 0.5+.
Hung Wong Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.24 13:05:00 - [16] This ship is gonna be the new ultimate carebear mission salvaging ship! I kid I kid... or am I
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.24 13:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Originally by: Shadowsword What make you think it's meant for high-sec only? Because you have the Rorqual for low-sec. Also... this ship seems to lack a jump-drive. Rorqual as wing commander and Orca as squad commander. And a rorqual is a bit harder to replace if something happens to it.
Unity Love Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.24 13:13:00 - [18] Now requires Mining Director I to fly according to CCP Chronotis. Step in the right direction in my opinion.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2008.10.24 13:36:00 - [19] With 46k Hull and ability to use a DCUII its going to be a mofo to gank. Still, I guess the corps that want to use this had better start their employees down the dead-end road of Remote Hull Repairers Still not really sure what the purpose of this thing is going to be - a bonus to mining links and super tractor beams: Is it supposed to be a mining-op gathering ship? Is it an empire mini-freighter? If a gatherer it needs a tank which it doesn't have. Apart from the gang link bonus any of the Marauder's will do a similar/better job. Give it a proper focused purpose.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida If a gatherer it needs a tank which it doesn't have. Apart from the gang link bonus any of the Marauder's will do a similar/better job. I dunno, it's go the ability to fit an incredible pasive tank if that's your concern. But I agree with the gist of your post - what is it for again?
King Rothgar	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:31:00 - [21] I suppose the next question is has anyone actually found one on SISI? I ask cause I'm in rens and every ship but the orca is availible. Ditto for the new skillbook.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:38:00 - [22] Where is the BPO seeded? Might be a good bit of info to know.
geran ferosa	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:08:00 - [23] just out of interest, it states that this ship available on test (single) erm, anyone actually got 1 on there yet, if so, where in lords name did you find it? and where do you get the skill from?
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:14:00 - [24] Hey, the shields got a pretty good recharge time.
Enden Assulu Caldari JinTech Industries Utterly Harmless	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:16:00 - [25] The Ship/Skill Book/BPO are only sold in the system FD-MLJ afaik :)
Jonak Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:27:00 - [26] People have been flying them since yesterday. I took mine back up to hi sec. Played around with it for a bit. I'll do some more testing later.
highonpop Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:26:00 - [27] has anyone tried fitting any types of mining modules? strip miner, ice harvester, etc...
plastastic	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:25:00 - [28] Originally by: highonpop has anyone tried fitting any types of mining modules? strip miner, ice harvester, etc... cant no turret slots and no CPU reduction to them mods however you can fit 2 mining gang links to it and a tractor beam
Pevaw Expatria Inc The Firm.	Posted - 2008.10.24 21:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Snow Banshee Edited by: Snow Banshee on 24/10/2008 11:15:42 Originally by: Shadowsword What make you think it's meant for high-sec only? Lets consider it this way: Rorqual can do everything the orca can do, but better. Can even jump directly to the system instead of being killed by gate campers in the fool attempt to go in a low sec mining op. You CAN bring an orca in low sec.. even in Nullsec, but there is not any valid reason to do that. The orca come into play where rorquall cannot be. And this place is 0.5+. Me thinks of those hauler drops in 0.0 that takes forever to get the mins back to station. Usually mind numbing enough to leave the minerals or pop the wrecks all together. The top expanded cargo alone could bring in 9,000,000 units of mineral in one run. Considering the need of low ends in 0.0 and the current pricing for some low ends it actually makes sense to have this ship for just that purpose. May also be useful for the setup and takedown of POS's and keeping them fueled and transporting the moon minerals, advanced material, reactions, etc. back to station. Just some ideas of possible 0.0 usage. To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2008.10.24 21:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Pevaw Me thinks of those hauler drops in 0.0 that takes forever to get the mins back to station. Rorqual can do that. Rorqual is more expensive, but with jump drive you can retrieve hauler spawns that a bit away from station systems. Besides, a hauler can carry around 30k-40k m3 for less than the orca. More trips but still doable. Originally by: Pevaw May also be useful for the setup and takedown of POS's and keeping them fueled and transporting the moon minerals, advanced material, reactions, etc. back to station. Just some ideas of possible 0.0 usage. I can see this as an option to consolidate mins from pos's to station. Then jf/rorqual/freighter to/from empire. And to distribute fuel. However in both cases this is a poor mans rorqual.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2008.10.24 22:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Crackzilla Originally by: Pevaw Me thinks of those hauler drops in 0.0 that takes forever to get the mins back to station. Rorqual can do that. Rorqual is more expensive, but with jump drive you can retrieve hauler spawns that a bit away from station systems. Besides, a hauler can carry around 30k-40k m3 for less than the orca. More trips but still doable. Originally by: Pevaw May also be useful for the setup and takedown of POS's and keeping them fueled and transporting the moon minerals, advanced material, reactions, etc. back to station. Just some ideas of possible 0.0 usage. I can see this as an option to consolidate mins from pos's to station. Then jf/rorqual/freighter to/from empire. And to distribute fuel. However in both cases this is a poor mans rorqual. It's the high sec mans roqual. :-D
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.25 00:40:00 - [32] Edited by: Tasko Pal on 25/10/2008 00:44:45 Originally by: Unity Love Now requires Mining Director I to fly according to CCP Chronotis. Step in the right direction in my opinion. Could you provide a reference please? If true, that's going to change training plans. Added: Nevermind, I found the post. CCP Chronotis corrects more than just the required skills for the Orca.
Bodhisattvas Eternal Perseverance	Posted - 2008.10.25 04:17:00 - [33] Originally by: Coeus Moirae Some screenshots i got a few mins ago http://fc29.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/5/8/orca3_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc13.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/297/9/7/orca2_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/7/b/orca1_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg Much bear ******* will adorn those piccies
Bodhisattvas Eternal Perseverance	Posted - 2008.10.25 04:20:00 - [34] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: Coeus Moirae Some screenshots i got a few mins ago http://fc29.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/5/8/orca3_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc13.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/297/9/7/orca2_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/297/7/b/orca1_by_Philosophical_Art.jpg Much bear ******* will adorn those piccies erm does jiz work ? ok thats good lets try again... Much bear jiz will adorn those piccies
Jonathon Iceflaster	Posted - 2008.10.25 16:13:00 - [35] Speed?
Chomapuraku Caldari Phantasmal Collective Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 21:34:00 - [36] for speed, check the linky. (hint: it's a capital ship) looks good to me, even as a 0.0 miner. with skills, rigs, and mods, 92k m3 cargo. not too shabby. skill-ready in a few days for anyone on their way to a hulk (barge 5, but not astrogeo 5). bonus to survey range is lovely (instantly tells you how well-stocked a belt is, lets you call targets to the better roids). bonus to gang links is great for those with the skills. tractor bonus is spiffy (pull in cans, crap em out for the hauling *****). good to have one for a medium-sized mining gang, but you can make work for two in a huge, well-stocked deep 0.0 belt or hidden belt and a huge gang. in a pinch, it's the freighter for those that don't want a freighter. warps faster than a freighter, though i wonder if it aligns any better. don't need cap ship or jump drive skills for it. more gankable, though. and with the cargo space of two rigged itty v's or 3 bustards, an incremental improvement over those ships.
CaptianBlack Minmatar We Brake For Nobody.	Posted - 2008.10.26 10:44:00 - [37] no ore compression, just makes it a bigger hauler really.. kinda pointless in high sec systems with a station Use quotes ("") in URL tags or it breaks the layout.-Rauth
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 12:46:00 - [38] as far as I can tell, this ship is: - a giant jetcan for easier high-sec dual-box mining - a giant industrial for easier moving of your 'stuff' when you move homes I think it's actually more of a boost to people like me who mostly pvp but sometimes like to mine and sometimes need to move stuff around.
Caelum Mortuos Gallente Zero G Research and Development	Posted - 2008.10.26 13:46:00 - [39] As a couple of people have said, it's also quite useful for small-med scale production. e.g. when you're making 10-15 T2 cruisers a day or so, it's a pain to move...either you do multiple runs in a small hauler or use like 15% of your freighters capacity. This will fill that niche quite nicely, although i'm kinda disappointed you cant fit a freight can in the hold when expanded. As to those that have said it should have compression, I really don't think it's worth it for empire. This ship is supposed to just be a central point where miners interface with the haulers, whilst providing bonuses. Does a command ship do the same thing? It can do, but the orca has more utility for after/in between ops.
Elhina Novae Sky's Edge	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:47:00 - [40] Originally by: CaptianBlack no ore compression, just makes it a bigger hauler really.. kinda pointless in high sec systems with a station Bingo. Alot of 0.5 , 0.6 systems are barely touched because of there is a lack of stations, so the Orca should be a nice piece of junk for those systems. ------------ Originally by: Boz Well Originally by: SurrenderMonkey ... There's an Amarr problem? Nothing that can't be solved by more Minmatar nerfs.
Vindarten	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:56:00 - [41] Anyone look at this and see it as a potential salvage boat? Sure its slow but once it warps to your bookmark its rare to find wrecks more than 70km out. Just a thought for us high-sec mission running carebears out there
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:34:00 - [42] Edited by: Joss Sparq on 28/10/2008 05:37:49 Originally by: Hung Wong This ship is gonna be the new ultimate carebear mission salvaging ship! I kid I kid... or am I It has, what, 3 highs? I don't care how long it can tractor beam, if you're planning to put a Salvager I in each of the other two high slots, then quite frankly I think you have more ISK than is safe for you to control. Originally by: Unity Love Now requires Mining Director I to fly according to CCP Chronotis. Step in the right direction in my opinion. Proof? Also, yuck. Meanwhile, a small and traitorous part of my mind wonders how long it'll be after release until I see them sitting alone in 1.0-0.9 space, AFK mining Veldspar, etc with mining drones and three of these things installed ... ...
Yvelle Mad Cow Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:57:00 - [43] hMm... no Advance Spaceship Command ? It be nice for the bonus.
Necrosmith Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.28 07:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Tiirae as far as I can tell, this ship is: - a giant jetcan for easier high-sec dual-box mining This is why I'll be getting one for my hauler alt.
Xynomorphine	Posted - 2008.10.28 09:00:00 - [45] Edited by: Xynomorphine on 28/10/2008 09:04:17 Guys if you read the link by ccp (http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=597) at the bottom it quotes, "When can I test it on Singularity? Very soon if not already by the time this blog is published, and we very much want your constructive feedback and testing of the Orca both here in the blog comments thread and on the test server. Remember, the stats above are not final and are subject to change! Ave - Chronotis" Unquote. As I have feel it needs to be more of a mining command ship not a glorified mini freighter. quote from Command Ship "Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously". And as for the High to Low slots their arnt enough for it to tank or even mend its self, should be 4 High, 5 Low, and 2 Low like the Hulk, well as I did read further up one of your toons will have to learn remote armour repair not my idea of a good time for that player having a slot taking up by a repper than say a mining laser.
Birkinz Caldari Mitsukashi Holdings Limited	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:21:00 - [46] I really wanted to be able to use it to move two rigged battleships around + mission loot and I can't see why they have stopped this. Sure I can use my freighter for this but it is slow and painful. I wanted to put nano on it and hyperspatial velocity rigs so I fly to differnet agents quickly and get certain LP offers that I may want. Cant see what the problem is with being able to do this and it would make the ship a lot more popular IMO. Larger ship maintainance bay would be great!

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