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Take Enemy BAD WOLF INC.	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:12:00 - [31] Originally by: Fifi LeFume Originally by: Take Enemy Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Sidus Isaacs What? They screw the Javs so much!? We already had to screfice much dps for that range. Way to make the only usefull T2 ammo usless :( I dunno I hear that scorch thing is pretty good @ OP: technically they did nerf Amarr too; the locus rig fix sort of sucks. Of course I think that hit Minmatar too so :p I missed something... What is the locus rig fix of which you speak? I would assume its properly stacking penalized now. penalized now. penalized. penal. Bummer, but fair enough. /quietly puts remaining Crusaders on the market, gets in Taranis... ***** <--ok I said it.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:27:00 - [32] Originally by: Stork DK Sweet =] Gallente whines, caldari whines AND minmatar whines! And all from one patch that hasnt even been deployed yet /emote trashes vaga & hugs geddon. /emote hugs Sacri, curse & zealot...
KayO Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Terianna Eri ... but it turns out dual-rep, drug-boosted, overheated zealots are pretty cool too. Dont worry im sure thats gona get nerfed the patch after
Durzel Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:36:00 - [34] Javelin got a 50% range boost didn't it, along with a 10% damage reduction - not sure where this "50% reduction in range" comes from?...
Kadoes Khan	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Durzel Javelin got a 50% range boost didn't it, along with a 10% damage reduction - not sure where this "50% reduction in range" comes from?... Javelins will now add 50% to your range, previously it seem they just added an arbitrary amount. This really doesn't effect torpedoes much but for rockets and HAMs it's a major change and one I think necessary. You have rockets that are small short range weapons that go 10km normally(most other weapons are <3km, rockets have **** damage though) now they'll go to 15(as opposed to other weapons which are <10KM), seems more balanced then firing rockets to 30KM like they did previously. Although it indirectly nerfs a few ships which were undervalued to begin with.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.10.24 23:59:00 - [36] Originally by: KingCappo Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 24/10/2008 12:46:37 Originally by: fkingfurious Javelins- Range bonus reduced to 50%. So Rockets and Ham's get like 3 and 6km more range respectively and torps are down to like 35km or something (start selling those torp Golems now boys and girls) Wonderful, that's about 1.2bil down the drain right there. Well, unless I sell it of course. On TQ, javelin torpedoes have a 50% range increase, so this is no different. However, they did boost the damage of javelin torpedoes. They also made rage torpedoes a viable option by replacing the huge drawback (cap recharge) with a minor drawback (sig radius) and boosting their damage to greater than faction. The only change to the Golem that is worrysome is the reduction in the explosion radius bonus, but only time will tell how big of an impact that is. Phew. Thanks. Guess I should go check on SiSi myself, to really see the new values and how they work.
Nexus Kinnon Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.25 00:44:00 - [37] Originally by: Fifi LeFume penal. tee hee
Taco Raptorian The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.10.25 12:40:00 - [38] BLAM BLAM BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM! The sound of the nerf cannon echoes in the halls. ____________________________ A smile reflected in endless space.
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.10.25 14:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Fifi LeFume penal. tee hee Aleus Stygian facepalms In other news, the Zealot and Sac will both be awesome still simply because of solid performance. The Cerberus will still be death to tiny ships. And the Drake will still be a vile and horrid coffee table with 400 hp/sec defense to its shield before invulnerability fields. You missile fggots have nothing to complain about the way ships look right now.
UrsaeMajoris	Posted - 2008.10.25 14:38:00 - [40] Edited by: UrsaeMajoris on 25/10/2008 14:39:35 Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: KingCappo Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 24/10/2008 12:46:37 Originally by: fkingfurious Javelins- Range bonus reduced to 50%. So Rockets and Ham's get like 3 and 6km more range respectively and torps are down to like 35km or something (start selling those torp Golems now boys and girls) Wonderful, that's about 1.2bil down the drain right there. Well, unless I sell it of course. On TQ, javelin torpedoes have a 50% range increase, so this is no different. However, they did boost the damage of javelin torpedoes. They also made rage torpedoes a viable option by replacing the huge drawback (cap recharge) with a minor drawback (sig radius) and boosting their damage to greater than faction. The only change to the Golem that is worrysome is the reduction in the explosion radius bonus, but only time will tell how big of an impact that is. Phew. Thanks. Guess I should go check on SiSi myself, to really see the new values and how they work. Rage torpedoes have always been viable and widely used contrary to what you might think on account of the always-gay cap recharge penalty. They are less viable now more than ever in the new patch because the explosion radius has increased from 540m to 650m. You will need 2 target painters on a torp raven/cnr/rattlesnake/widow or very good skills with a golem to hit battleships-sized targets for full rage torp damage. Their damage was increased by 6.67% but thats definitely not in scale with a 20% increase in explosion radius. This along with the web nerf would finally encourage proper use of the Hyena, Rapier and Huginn painting abilities but it kind of sucks when you think about it; that caldari torp pilots must rely on another race's support ships for help.
Jay T	Posted - 2008.10.25 14:57:00 - [41] Ive never used sisi, but are there any changes to web & target painting drones as it might be the only viable choice for a solo torp raven.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.25 16:00:00 - [42] Can someone post the exact changes in here that are currently on the test server? Not "they decreased blah blah" but rather in the format of: Tranquility Stats - - - Current Sisi Stats --- Put in space whales!
Raniss	Posted - 2008.10.25 16:04:00 - [43] All i have to say to y'all (just like everyone does against minnie/gallente players who come to the forums about broken stuff) HAHAHAHAHAHA ADAPT OR DIE CAREBEAR S****YOUR TEARS TASTE DELICIOUS.
SOLAR stone Gallente Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.25 19:47:00 - [44] Any changes to cruise missiles?
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.25 19:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Raniss All i have to say to y'all (just like everyone does against minnie/gallente players who come to the forums about broken stuff) HAHAHAHAHAHA ADAPT OR DIE CAREBEAR S****YOUR TEARS TASTE DELICIOUS. The irony here of course is Caldari have had very little time in the spotlight as a premier PVP race. The bigger irony is the changes won't make the problems with blasters or projectiles go away . Though, it DOES solve the troubling issue with the precision heavy missile. Now it appears all the precision missiles have the same odd drawbacks as the precision heavy.
Groknor	Posted - 2008.10.25 20:14:00 - [46] In my opinion, CCP's grand plan is to nerf everything, making battles longer, more tactical and more interesting.
Rita Zechs	Posted - 2008.10.27 22:46:00 - [47] Originally by: El Yatta I'm pretty sure Ifni (atropos?) is in QA, not balance/game design. In any case he was a pretty good blaster pilot too and they're getting face****d... Yeah somehow I registered him as CCP Nohz but if the bobbit outed him right in http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=776684 he's indeed Atropos. It's somehow comforting that it's not a player in good standing with the community responsible for ruining the game, even it really suck to see the efforts CCP will go to ruin the game. Everything I read since I quit comfort me in my decision, especially the battle report about last Shrike death. I so miss firing one shot every minute, that's great progress they made against lag right here...
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.27 23:22:00 - [48] Originally by: Brodde Dim Did you test them out together with all the other changes to velocity, signature radius, webbing etc. that are being planned? Or are you just getting hysterical over isolated changes in stats? Yup, people getting hysterical over changes without properly testing them. Combat on sisi is far different from on TQ, saying oh this ship got nerfed/buffed without taking into account all the numerous other changes is foolish. I also cannot remember a change on sisi that people didn't freak out about and ended up to be perfectly fine. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Rita Zechs	Posted - 2008.10.27 23:44:00 - [49] Originally by: Vaal Erit I also cannot remember a change on sisi that people didn't freak out about and ended up to be perfectly fine. Too young to remember the Nosferatu/nano BS era from when rigs where new? Everyone but the devs saw how stupid it was, yet it was released as is.

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