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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.27 11:25:00 -
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Will cyclone finally get some well deserverd (and needed) love?
It's BY FAR the most useless BC in game.
Since it's nopt a gank but tank BC, leave split weapon system, but please add more CPU and/or another med slot, to make it remotely useful.
At this moment it's nothing but a bait ship and lvl 2 mission runner.
Devs please respond, i love this ships beyond normality, and sadly i missed Zulupark's marathon :(
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2008.10.27 11:47:00 -
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It used to be good before the nos nerf. But now.. yes need some love.
But don't need to be much.. Give it a bit more cap and a tiny bit better fittings and it its back into the game.
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.27 11:50:00 -
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yes, just a little bit more.
Ferox got boostet, it's NOT a lolship anymore (despite waht lot of ppl think). But Cyclone just plainly suck.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Sumara Oooh
yes, just a little bit more.
Ferox got boostet, it's NOT a lolship anymore (despite waht lot of ppl think). But Prophecy just plainly suck.
fixed :)
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sumara Oooh on 27/10/2008 12:21:28
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Sumara Oooh
yes, just a little bit more.
Ferox got boostet, it's NOT a lolship anymore (despite waht lot of ppl think). But Prophecy just plainly suck.
fixed :)
sadly, can't fly amar, but if it's as bad as cyclone...
wait... it's AS bad as cyclone? |
Aya Vandenovich
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sumara Oooh
Edited by: Sumara Oooh on 27/10/2008 12:21:28
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Sumara Oooh
yes, just a little bit more.
Ferox got boostet, it's NOT a lolship anymore (despite waht lot of ppl think). But Prophecy just plainly suck.
fixed :)
sadly, can't fly amar, but if it's as bad as cyclone...
wait... it's AS bad as cyclone?
It can tank very well, but it's still not preferable to the Harbinger, except maybe in missions. I put up a question about changing the mass/speed/agility/sig radius of BCs (as the two of each race have identical stats), but there's been no definite answer yet. Hopefully it'll get a proper answer in the final version answers thread. |
Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aya Vandenovich
It can tank very well, but it's still not preferable to the Harbinger, except maybe in missions. I put up a question about changing the mass/speed/agility/sig radius of BCs (as the two of each race have identical stats), but there's been no definite answer yet. Hopefully it'll get a proper answer in the final version answers thread.
you asked.
i envy you.
Devs please, respond |
london
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:39:00 -
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I read the title as, "Will Cylon get some love".
Damn sleepy eyes.
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Aya Vandenovich
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Posted - 2008.10.27 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sumara Oooh
Originally by: Aya Vandenovich
It can tank very well, but it's still not preferable to the Harbinger, except maybe in missions. I put up a question about changing the mass/speed/agility/sig radius of BCs (as the two of each race have identical stats), but there's been no definite answer yet. Hopefully it'll get a proper answer in the final version answers thread.
you asked.
i envy you.
Devs please, respond
Oddly enough, I actually asked that question because of the Cyclone. To me it seems more in line with the Typhoon battleship, so it seems bizarre that it's not more agile than a hurricane.
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.27 17:37:00 -
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bump for Dev atention |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.27 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sumara Oooh
It's BY FAR the most useless BC in game.
By far? Are you kidding me? Atleast cyclone can be used to people that have no armor tank skills and want to shield tank their BC. Even if it's not THE best BC it has a role somewhere. The prophecy is THE BY FAR most useless BC in the game because its tier 2 version can do EVERYTHING better. There is no reason in hell to fly a prophecy at all.
On the other hand there is a reason to fly cyclone, brutix and ferox.
Prophecy is the most useless BC in game, don't try to make up things that are simply not true.
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[Video] The Cruise |
Vanthropy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.27 18:42:00 -
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Cyclone really ain't half bad. Mini sleipnir, tanks nicely, fast, fair dps.
here's some eft warrioring
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Co-Processor II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Invulnerability Field II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
[empty high slot]
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Projectile Ambit Extension I
Projectile Ambit Extension I
Projectile Ambit Extension I
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
"SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up" |
Tnam
Caldari
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tnam on 27/10/2008 19:16:19
Have to agree that Cyclone is a pointless ship and that Prophecy is too. Its got too many useless highs, without making it overpowered I would guess that the optimal change would be to:
give it 6 turret hardpoints instead of 5.
remove 1 high slot and add 1 low slot, thereby either letting people add module to aid with Cap, Grid or Damage to its lows, giving it an extra med would imo make it overpowered.
Edit:
Alternately, I see that cyclone has 1 more slot overall than any other tier 1 bc. So maybe the right thing to do would be just to give it 7 turret hard-points a little more grid and remove the last high slot, then it would be very equivalent to a Ferox exactly.
With that slot configuration it would be a somewhat interesting ship, different to a hurricane, not as good as a hurricane but comparable to a ferox or brutix. |
ZigZag Joe
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.27 19:20:00 -
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don't touch my cyclone kthxbai.
on the other hand, the proph does need some love.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.27 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tnam
Edited by: Tnam on 27/10/2008 19:16:19
Have to agree that Cyclone is a pointless ship and that Prophecy is too. Its got too many useless highs, without making it overpowered I would guess that the optimal change would be to:
give it 6 turret hardpoints instead of 5.
remove 1 high slot and add 1 low slot, thereby either letting people add module to aid with Cap, Grid or Damage to its lows, giving it an extra med would imo make it overpowered.
Edit:
Alternately, I see that cyclone has 1 more slot overall than any other tier 1 bc. So maybe the right thing to do would be just to give it 7 turret hard-points a little more grid and remove the last high slot, then it would be very equivalent to a Ferox exactly.
With that slot configuration it would be a somewhat interesting ship, different to a hurricane, not as good as a hurricane but comparable to a ferox or brutix.
it cannto get an extra low slot because cyclone already has more slots than othe tier 1 BC.
The cyclone issue if far from being lack of slots. It's mainly the fact that active shield boosting drinks a LOT of capacitor. And cycloen has far less capacitor then its counterparts. Also a bit to otight on CPU but not much. 5 more tf yes 5 more would make a hell lot of difference. That and 200 more base cap.
At test server sure the cycloen is great in an environment where everyone has crystal sets. I killed 3 mega 1 hyperion 1 geddon and 2 ravens today in a cyclone in sisi. But as i said that means NOTHIGN because there i can use strong blue pills at will and full grade crystal sets. Somethign far from realistic.
With the SISI status BCs are very powerful. So balancing them is quite important. But i must be fair and say, prphecy is still worse. Cycloen is ALMOST good. Prophecy is not. |
Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.27 22:31:00 -
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who died and made 3 month old players devs?
or has this game really spread the illution that it gives a hoot about tier 1 BCs.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.28 02:31:00 -
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Fastest BC.
4 Lows.
Never Primaried.
Large Drone bay.
Overheated Med booster t2.
Web Scram MWD LSE Med Booster Cap booster
220's and Ham's Full rack t2
Nano and damage control OR full nano.
This ship is quite good, it's damage isn't great but what minny ship is?
The ONLY thing is the lack of cap i'd say, I wish I didn't have to rig it or cap boost it to compete with a drake. |
Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.10.28 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
Web Scram MWD LSE Med Booster Cap booster
WTB 6 midslot Cyclone.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.28 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Web Scram MWD LSE Med Booster Cap booster
WTB 6 midslot Cyclone.
Yeah yeah yeah.
MWD, Scram, Web, Med booster, Cap booster.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.28 05:28:00 -
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tbh I think the cyclone is okay as it is, I love this ship tho so I would not object to a little bit of a boost for it, and for the proph aswell maybe
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Tnam
Caldari
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.10.28 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
tbh I think the cyclone is okay as it is, I love this ship tho so I would not object to a little bit of a boost for it, and for the proph aswell maybe
I'm so confused by this cyclone hugging... its a ship that does bad DPS compared with other BCs, is riddled with cap problems, has a useless tank and hardly any effective hp. It is completely owned in terms of speed, damage and tank by a rupture, why would you fly one? |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.28 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tnam
Originally by: Gneeznow
tbh I think the cyclone is okay as it is, I love this ship tho so I would not object to a little bit of a boost for it, and for the proph aswell maybe
I'm so confused by this cyclone hugging... its a ship that does bad DPS compared with other BCs, is riddled with cap problems, has a useless tank and hardly any effective hp. It is completely owned in terms of speed, damage and tank by a rupture, why would you fly one?
because it looks like a mutation between a train and a trout.
moare cap for the cylone! and 5 tf cpu more on top please :) The prophecy oh other hand needs a complete reengeneering |
siccari aleph
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:02:00 -
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atm the cyclone is rubbish, unless fitted for suiciding.
i honestly doubt ppl saying 'yeah cyclone is great' are actually flying them in pvp.
If they are, pleas epost some kb links.
Anyway, it needs 1 more med slot/more cap/more cpu/decreased speed and align time.
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:04:00 -
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i agree that ppl saying 'cyclone is awesome' dont' actually fly it in pvp. On TQ.
But i was asking Devs will it get looked at, at least a little bit.
Devs? Deeeevs?
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sumara Oooh on 28/10/2008 12:20:11
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Fastest BC.
lolwot?
exactly same stats as hurricane, both align time and speed
if there wasn't a nano nerf knocking, i'd just say 'lower the mass, up the speed and align time and it'be perfectly fine, there would be SOMETHING to make me take it before the 'cane'.
But now, it needs either moar tank or gank. Since 'cane is ganker, this one needs moar tank. SO. More pg/CPU/1 more medslot.
and i apologize to gneez, you really do fly them.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: siccari aleph
atm the cyclone is rubbish, unless fitted for suiciding.
i honestly doubt ppl saying 'yeah cyclone is great' are actually flying them in pvp.
If they are, pleas epost some kb links.
Anyway, it needs 1 more med slot/more cap/more cpu/decreased speed and align time.
just to be clear.. it does not need ALL of those. Those are some ideas of what could make it work better. More cap and Cpu is my opinion.
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If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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siccari aleph
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: siccari aleph
atm the cyclone is rubbish, unless fitted for suiciding.
i honestly doubt ppl saying 'yeah cyclone is great' are actually flying them in pvp.
If they are, pleas epost some kb links.
Anyway, it needs 1 more med slot/more cap/more cpu/decreased speed and align time.
just to be clear.. it does not need ALL of those. Those are some ideas of what could make it work better. More cap and Cpu is my opinion.
yes.
more cpu for more tankage, or more PG for some resemblance of gankage, or 1 more med slot to be able fit any kind of meaningful tank + full tackle gear. Any one of those things would make ME happy in the pants
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Tnam
Caldari
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:56:00 -
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I say again. Remove 1 high slot. Give it 7 turret hardpoints instead of 5, leave the rest the same, and you end up with something somewhat comparable to a brutix or ferox.
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Laari Neros
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Posted - 2008.10.28 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Laari Neros on 28/10/2008 12:59:38
yeah, make them good and make cyclone boom on market
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Sumara Oooh
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Posted - 2008.10.28 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sumara Oooh on 28/10/2008 13:02:59
Originally by: Tnam
I say again. Remove 1 high slot. Give it 7 turret hardpoints instead of 5, leave the rest the same, and you end up with something somewhat comparable to a brutix or ferox.
brutix is a true glass cannon. monstruous DPS and honor tank.
ferox is a really, really good all rounder, it can snipe, it can hit like a brick when blaster fitted, but it can pack a considerable buffer with its resistance bonuses.
To make Cyclone in line with them, one should do sometign with it's tank, since it's actively tanked. So, in that light, it should be given some kind of cap bonus or something. not more gun points.
edit: but thinking about it, it's so bad i'd be happy with ANY change
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