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TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:40:00 - [1] Man Gunned Down by Police in London... Unfortunatly it wasn't Russell Brand... Police are asking for tip off's to his location so that they might actually do the job right(Cos the PM wants him removed from public life). CCP made little baby jesus cry by nerfing ghost training
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:48:00 - [2] Linkage because the OP didn't provide one.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.10.29 23:20:00 - [3] At least it wasn't an innocent man on his way to work again.
xxShadexx Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.10.29 23:58:00 - [4] Meh Romford London/Essex. Hate driving through there. Apparently the clubs arn't too bad though as long as you don't get shot or stabbed! -----------------------------------------
Lazuran Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.30 00:36:00 - [5] The UK well on its way towards "Judge Dredd". I bet they are hoping for big savings when they no longer need to drag people to court. They can fire all the prosecutors too.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.30 00:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Lazuran The UK well on its way towards "Judge Dredd". I bet they are hoping for big savings when they no longer need to drag people to court. They can fire all the prosecutors too. The Onion: Supreme Court: Death Penalty Is 'Totally Badass ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
Epegi Givo Amarr Vengeance Imperium	Posted - 2008.10.30 01:01:00 - [7] is carrying a gun enough of a reason to be shot dead?
Zephyr Rengate Caldari dearg doom	Posted - 2008.10.30 01:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Epegi Givo is carrying a gun enough of a reason to be shot dead? Yes.
Moo Juice Minmatar Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.10.30 01:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Epegi Givo is carrying a gun enough of a reason to be shot dead? it is when you're one of them strange euros --- oh hi...
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.30 01:21:00 - [10] police were called to Honeysuckle Close..... no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.30 01:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Epegi Givo is carrying a gun enough of a reason to be shot dead? In a more serious answer. In Sweden it would depend on how you carry it. If you're acting threateningly while carrying a gun you're pretty ****ed. They're going to shoot to take you down, and often that means dead (although something similar to the Aftermath of the North Hollywood shootout, where it took about an hour for the neutralized and heavily injured suspect to receive medical aid, would never be allowed). ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.30 02:02:00 - [12] Would be cool to have unlimited ammo for a day , say for ur two fav guns of all time & a buddy to come with you. Four guns two guys unlimited ammo 24hrs how far would you get ? no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.10.30 02:04:00 - [13] But..but..there aren't any guns in the UK. Its against the law! /sarcasm
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.30 06:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Keorythe But..but..there aren't any guns in the UK. Its against the law! /sarcasm So is theft but the police are allowed to steal your car if you don't tax it. In a non gun culture country like this, overreaction is common. A case where someone called the police because they saw what appeared to be a rifle barrel poking out of someones box on a train. The train was stopped in the station and armed police went on board. So far it is understandable and reasonable under the circumstances. What happened next was totally unreasonable. The police took posession of the rifle and, even though the owner could no longer use it against them even if it were possible to use quickly without unpacking it, he was handcuffed and forcefully removed from the train. It turned out to be nothing more than a .22 air rifle that he'd bought from someone out of town and had put it in a box that wasn't quite long enough by about 2 inches. He had no ammo for it and rightfully thought that it was reasonable to presume that, since it was boxed, it was legal to transport it to his home. He was later charged with having a concealed weapon on board public transport. That was 2003 in Gillingham Station in Kent UK. The local East Kent Gazette newspaper may reveal a link to the story but I'm not going looking for it. I was working as a security guard in a Amusements establishment just a hundred yards from the station at the time it happened. So it is legal in the UK to buy an air rifle, legal to own one and legal to use one providing you're shooting at paper targets etc in a safe way. However, it's not legal to take one home on a train once you've bought it, even if you box it so that it makes it obvious that you don't intend to use it while in transit. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Dikanal	Posted - 2008.10.30 07:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Dantes Revenge So it is legal in the UK to buy an air rifle, legal to own one and legal to use one providing you're shooting at paper targets etc in a safe way. However, it's not legal to take one home on a train once you've bought it, even if you box it so that it makes it obvious that you don't intend to use it while in transit. iirc being boxed isn't enough the weapon has to be stripped down or unable to fired and locked in an approved container with any ammunition in a separate container pretty much the same law for the storage of shotguns and rifles.
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.30 08:34:00 - [16] Guns are illegal, so I support the police shooting someone carrying one in those circumstances. However can they please shot shooting to kill?
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.30 09:44:00 - [17] Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 30/10/2008 09:46:57 Unfortunately the UK is scared shftless of guns, so police are like OMG TOY GUN and the bullets start flying, the SAS is called in, they airstrike the area and use a tactical nuclear strike to ensure that ONE GUN isn't used to shoot ONE PERSON. Okay maybe not, but regardless... in the UK, if people see something gun shaped, they shft NUMEROUS bricks. So the police just shoot on sight now. Well, they should shout for you to drop it initially... Pff. Guns in the hands of the general, licensed public is just population control if they shoot eachother. The USA seems to be doing alright! Oh and the dude on the train with the .22 Caliber Air Rifle? Thats his own fault. There is a blatent legislation in place that any weapon must be carried, unloaded, in a bespoke firearms case when in transit. I think theres also a requirement for it to be locked.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.10.30 10:57:00 - [18] "carrying" in this case could be a classic example of BBC understatement. If they shot him, I suspect that "carrying" should be translated into "firing, aiming, yelling wildly, and threatening to blow the X away" where X = any one of a long, long list of epithets. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
SpaceSavage Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.30 10:58:00 - [19] I dont care about this threads content. I merely want to comment on OP's choice of Character name. Were you drunk at the time? _______________
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.10.30 11:14:00 - [20] come to think of it, why WOULD Russel Brand need shooting? He just caught an unfortunate case of foot-in-mouth disease. Last I checked, we don't put people down for that. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Lazuran Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.30 11:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 30/10/2008 09:46:57 Unfortunately the UK is scared shftless of guns, so police are like OMG TOY GUN and the bullets start flying, the SAS is called in, they airstrike the area and use a tactical nuclear strike to ensure that ONE GUN isn't used to shoot ONE PERSON. Okay maybe not, but regardless... in the UK, if people see something gun shaped, they shft NUMEROUS bricks. So the police just shoot on sight now. Well, they should shout for you to drop it initially... If I ever want to have someone killed in the UK, I'll just phone the police, tell them I saw him carrying a gun and let them sort it ...
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.10.30 12:20:00 - [22] I like the way police deal with guns in the UK. If you carry a gun, even a replica and wave it around you should be in no doubt the police will kill you. I would also be happy to extend this to people waving knives around in public in a menacing manner. It's illegal you're threatening with deadly force and should be met with deadly force. Prison is no deterrent in this country hoepfully death is. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.10.30 12:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Lazuran The UK well on its way towards "Judge Dredd". I bet they are hoping for big savings when they no longer need to drag people to court. They can fire all the prosecutors too. The Onion: Supreme Court: Death Penalty Is 'Totally Badass Funniest Video of the Day Award goes to Nomakai Delaterial for that ONN report. Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N	Posted - 2008.10.30 12:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Valan I like the way police deal with guns in the UK. If you carry a gun, even a replica and wave it around you should be in no doubt the police will kill you. I would also be happy to extend this to people waving knives around in public in a menacing manner. It's illegal you're threatening with deadly force and should be met with deadly force. Prison is no deterrent in this country hoepfully death is. They also shoot you if you look Arabic and are wearing a backpack! Now that is ****ING BADASS justice! /sarcasm
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.10.30 13:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: Valan I like the way police deal with guns in the UK. If you carry a gun, even a replica and wave it around you should be in no doubt the police will kill you. I would also be happy to extend this to people waving knives around in public in a menacing manner. It's illegal you're threatening with deadly force and should be met with deadly force. Prison is no deterrent in this country hoepfully death is. They also shoot you if you look Arabic and are wearing a backpack! Now that is ****ING BADASS justice! /sarcasm You don't even need both of those. Brazilian and a denim Jacket will do.
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.10.30 14:43:00 - [26] I believe that was a correct action by the guy who shot him. It was bad info and organisation he acted upon. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.10.30 14:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Valan I believe that was a correct action by the guy who shot him. It was bad info and organisation he acted upon. The organisation was definitely bad, but I think that he wasn't thinking and just blindly following orders (this is when accidents/tragedies really happen)
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.10.30 16:55:00 - [28] I would agree people need to think but in exceptional circumstances a police officer or soldier should revert to training thats why training has to be good quality. He was told to do his duty and he did it. If the intel was right he would be a hero now. In this case the Met as a whole and/or his senior officers are to blame. I'm sure he isn't happy about shooting the wrong guy in cold blood. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig

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