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Dalomar Avalhar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.03 14:38:00 - [1] - Quote I dont see the Muninn around anymore! Has it become obsulete after the Tier 3 BC came around? what are pilots using it for now - discuss
Meditril T.R.I.A.D Defiant Legacy 55	Posted - 2012.04.03 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote I confirm that, Muninn is an extincted species. Haven't seen one for months.
Dead Loss Sweet Capsuleer Tears 27	Posted - 2012.04.03 14:56:00 - [3] - Quote I use my munnin for pve and it works like crazy ... running angel plexes in a munnin is heaven.
Dalomar Avalhar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.03 15:01:00 - [4] - Quote Dead Loss wrote: I use my munnin for pve and it works like crazy ... running angel plexes in a munnin is heaven. yeah i was thinking pve aswell. But i run serp plexes in an ishtar though. Thing is corp mate has one he cant use an i can. but for pvp it seems best with artillery and the obivous good res makes a good tank, but wouldnt make that much dps as a tier 3 bc - im just guessing here as i have never flown it before.
Lady Ayeipsia Morskoj Industries 69	Posted - 2012.04.03 15:15:00 - [5] - Quote A couple of null corps use to run huge muninn alpha fleets. Maybe it was brick squad or black watch. As for if that were replaced with the tornado, I'm not sure. It's possible, but remember muninns are cruisers with t2 resists, that is a little better than t1 battlecruisers for survivability, plus muninns still have the drone bay. My guess, tornadoes may out dps the muninn (would also depend on Target size), but the muninn has better chance to fight longer, which means for a long nul roam, the muninn isn't bad.
Torothin Wrecking Shots Test Alliance Please Ignore 45	Posted - 2012.04.03 15:38:00 - [6] - Quote Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option.
Dead Loss Sweet Capsuleer Tears 27	Posted - 2012.04.03 16:16:00 - [7] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: A couple of null corps use to run huge muninn alpha fleets. Maybe it was brick squad or black watch. As for if that were replaced with the tornado, I'm not sure. It's possible, but remember muninns are cruisers with t2 resists, that is a little better than t1 battlecruisers for survivability, plus muninns still have the drone bay. My guess, tornadoes may out dps the muninn (would also depend on Target size), but the muninn has better chance to fight longer, which means for a long nul roam, the muninn isn't bad. I would honestly take Munnin slightly lower DPS and much higher tank vs paper thin high DPS tornado for small gangs. Fit the munnin nano and you can get a good enough agility and speed, and you can easily hit 50-60 k ehp with the right fit. It doesn't compare with the vaga but it's still a really good ship. We did a small roam in null sec the other day, and while my gang mates lost their smaller ships, I actually managed to tank and survive a 8 man gang, and evade them. Most likely they did a mistake and I wouldn't put it all on the ship, but it's a good ship. Like most forgotten ships, it turns out they are quite useful in the sense that most people don't suspect them anymore. Bit like the prophecy in a way...
Dalomar Avalhar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.03 16:45:00 - [8] - Quote Torothin wrote: Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option. I would also say their inherent number of low slots makes a good AHAC Thx for the input ppl, i think i will have a go at it - i like the rupture aswell so muninn would be good
Dead Loss Sweet Capsuleer Tears 27	Posted - 2012.04.03 17:31:00 - [9] - Quote Then again, if you have it trained, the Broadsword is a seriously sick ship. I mean, even if you don't use it for the warp bubble, just as a combat ship, you can tank it to 70-80k ehp with some decent DPS if you do it well. That one though is less agile.
Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 174	Posted - 2012.04.03 18:17:00 - [10] - Quote Torothin wrote: Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option. They're not. For AHACs a Fleet Stabber is better and cheaper if you can't fly anything other than minnie. Zealots of course make the Muninn look fairly useless - which it is unless you need specific damage types.
Rens Cheque Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2012.04.03 18:26:00 - [11] - Quote Black Legion runs large Munin fleets last I knew.
Lady Ayeipsia Morskoj Industries 70	Posted - 2012.04.03 18:36:00 - [12] - Quote Dead Loss wrote: Then again, if you have it trained, the Broadsword is a seriously sick ship. I mean, even if you don't use it for the warp bubble, just as a combat ship, you can tank it to 70-80k ehp with some decent DPS if you do it well. That one though is less agile. You can tank it higher, 100k or more dps. Also, please.... Please tell me you know about scripting your warp bubble. If you have a hic in high sec and are not using one or two scripted bubbles... Please, stop war deccing people and learn more about the game or you will be killed!
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 390	Posted - 2012.04.04 00:42:00 - [13] - Quote Dalomar Avalhar wrote: I dont see the Muninn around anymore! My alliance + GIANTSBANE. and maybe one or two others are the only ones who use Muninns as a regular fleet comp. Quote: Has it become obsulete after the Tier 3 BC came around? Nope. Quote: what are pilots using it for now - discuss Same stuff we used it for before Crucible, medium (30-70 man) gangs, fighting up to around 100-120 dudes.
Jack Miton Lapse Of Sanity Exhale. 170	Posted - 2012.04.04 02:35:00 - [14] - Quote lol, muninn.... forget balancing, ccp should just remove it from the game and put in a new ship that might actually be useful.
Alec Enderas 14th Legion Sanctuary Pact 5	Posted - 2012.04.04 09:08:00 - [15] - Quote you meant Munn ? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Munn
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 608	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:03:00 - [16] - Quote No no no! http://zettai-ryouiki.com/eve/warning_muninns.png
Dalomar Avalhar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:18:00 - [17] - Quote St Mio wrote: No no no! http://zettai-ryouiki.com/eve/warning_muninns.png
Unimaginative Guy Dutch Squad Chained Reactions 6	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:40:00 - [18] - Quote I dont like it because it has warped armor resisys(which it uses) and not enough mids for shields(unless you are running 0 tackle than MAYBE it will work)
Halete Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:48:00 - [19] - Quote St Mio wrote: No no no! http://zettai-ryouiki.com/eve/warning_muninns.png Most informative post on the forums right now, to be quite honest. Generic small-time hero-tackle pilot with no relevance.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 239	Posted - 2012.04.04 21:40:00 - [20] - Quote over priced ruptures with an extra turret...... need to say more? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 432	Posted - 2012.04.04 21:43:00 - [21] - Quote It's pretty great when you have to kill 15 guys in frigates by yourself.
Vordak Kallager Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 202	Posted - 2012.04.04 21:56:00 - [22] - Quote People ragging on the Muninn have clearly never heard of Black Legion. *Sa souvraya niende misain ye.*
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 391	Posted - 2012.04.05 02:18:00 - [23] - Quote doing drake week right now, get back to us in like 5 days or so
Dalomar Avalhar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.05 09:07:00 - [24] - Quote thx again for the replies, the usefull ones and the not so usefull ones
l0rd carlos Friends Of Harassment 21	Posted - 2012.04.06 21:52:00 - [25] - Quote In theory the Muninn does more DPS than a Hurricane in midrange fights (30km and more). (Damage graph; http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/06/plasma-desktopWr2291.jpg ) Both fits with 720mm artys. If you often fly in a skirmish/kiting gang that might be a usefull ship. I have not tried it myself, because i only got hac IV, but it is on my skill list :D o/ fly save, space cowboy.
Katja Faith Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2012.04.06 22:57:00 - [26] - Quote I'll probably be selling mine... Just don't use it as much as I thought I would on PVE...
Kahega Amielden Rifterlings 166	Posted - 2012.04.07 01:10:00 - [27] - Quote There's still a role for sniper HACs. The tracking on tier 3 BCs is utterly abysmal when fit for sniping. Even at long ranges they are not going to hit any nonstationary small ships.
Annie Anomie Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly 17	Posted - 2012.04.07 09:13:00 - [28] - Quote Seems obsolete compared to the nado. Similar speed / size profile but with 1400s instead of 720s.
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 393	Posted - 2012.04.07 17:42:00 - [29] - Quote Annie Anomie wrote: Seems obsolete compared to the nado. Similar speed / size profile but with 1400s instead of 720s. Tornadoes have problems with massed fast tackle. Muninns do not.
Katalci Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp 46	Posted - 2012.04.09 04:41:00 - [30] - Quote Torothin wrote: Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option. It has a terrible slot layout and resistance profile when fit as an AHAC. You only fly a Muninn in such a gang because you haven't finished training for the Zealot yet.

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