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Xenuria
Center Haus New Eden's Industrial Alliance
492
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Posted - 2012.04.04 00:36:00 -
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One of the things that frustrates me about this is that its isolated to only the hairstyles that are slicked back into a tail. The long wavvy hair parts in the middle like this one but does not have the gloss problem. The Future of GoonSwarm |
Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
8
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Posted - 2012.04.04 00:51:00 -
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Hayaishi wrote:I love your entry into the "computer" field. Just two lines, which gives no real information.
On a serious note, he's quite correct - it is a problem but it could be just as likely a problem with the Shader on your graphics card rather then a generic problem in EVE.
Identify your GPU, your Driver version and your OS as it's extremely relevant in this case. |
Xenuria
Center Haus New Eden's Industrial Alliance
492
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Posted - 2012.04.04 00:55:00 -
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Skogen Gump wrote:Hayaishi wrote:I love your entry into the "computer" field. Just two lines, which gives no real information. On a serious note, he's quite correct - it is a problem but it could be just as likely a problem with the Shader on your graphics card rather then a generic problem in EVE. Identify your GPU, your Driver version and your OS as it's extremely relevant in this case.
ARE YOU BLIND?
Portraits are NOT rendered client side, they are rendered server side. Take a look at the screen shots I posted. Take a look at my current avatar. The Future of GoonSwarm |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.04.04 00:58:00 -
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That's not gloss, that's grey hair from the stress induced from too much shiptoasting.
I suggest you cut back. |
Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
8
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:00:00 -
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Xenuria wrote: ARE YOU BLIND?
Portraits are NOT rendered client side, they are rendered server side. Take a look at the screen shots I posted. Take a look at my current avatar.
No need to be so hostile - The 3D environment when you're designing your look certainly isn't rendered server side. How do you know that the avatar profile isn't saved when you click the capture button ?
After all, they used to have massive problems with the whole portrait server ...
Anyway, just post the information in your bug report - it helps! No need to be passive aggressive. |
Xenuria
Center Haus New Eden's Industrial Alliance
492
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:03:00 -
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Skogen Gump wrote:Xenuria wrote:[quote=Skogen Gump] ARE YOU BLIND?
Portraits are NOT rendered client side, they are rendered server side. Take a look at the screen shots I posted. Take a look at my current avatar. No need to be so hostile - The 3D environment when you're designing your look certainly isn't rendered server side. How do you know that the avatar profile isn't saved when you click the capture button ? After all, they used to have massive problems with the whole portrait server ... Anyway, just post the information in your bug report - it helps! No need to be passive aggressive.
Sorry. I am just frustrated.
The End effect or portrait is rendered server side and yes they did have alot of problems in the past. They still do. They did fix the eye gloss and lipstick color bugs as far as I can tell but the hair is still a problem. The Future of GoonSwarm |
Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:07:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:
Sorry. I am just frustrated.
The End effect or portrait is rendered server side and yes they did have alot of problems in the past. They still do. They did fix the eye gloss and lipstick color bugs as far as I can tell but the hair is still a problem.
No worries; I can appreciate that it's annoying. It was really annoying when I couldn't copy my original avatars looks to the new system, after all with a name like 'Skogen Gump' there's only going to be certain look that works |
Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
9
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:22:00 -
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Just to qualify my last post:
http://www.eve-avatars.com/?Skogen%20Gump
Might help to know that Skogen Gump roughly translates as Forest Gump |
Ai Shun
576
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:25:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Portraits are NOT rendered client side, they are rendered server side. Take a look at the screen shots I posted. Take a look at my current avatar.
Have you tried this with other races? I know you said it affects Gallente - it was not clear if this is the case with other races as well. |
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
124
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Posted - 2012.04.04 02:44:00 -
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Confirming CCP does not care about bug reports. Which is why the thruster effects on the einherji are still broken and fighter pilots most likely spin without any control.
edit: Well all the fighters are graphically broken on second look. The stabaliser effect they used to have has been replaced with unbalanced constant thrust from the side of the fighter. |
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:12:00 -
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ah yes, a Xenuria post.
Xenuria, you seem to be a cool guy and all that, but sometimes I think you're OCD'ing a bit too much. dude, relax a bit! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Meita Way
My Hat is Made of LOVE
57
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:22:00 -
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Bored of trying to get 12 year olds to show you their dicks Xen? |
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
103
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:04:00 -
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Imagine if you will...a build that is not what is on Tranquility. But probably has much further along code for testing. Probably not even on SiSi. Where the bug is actually fixed. And where a developer will say 'fixed'.
But, you as a consumer, will not see this until say...Inferno possibly?
Your view of a 'fixed' bug is not the developers view of a 'fixed' bug.
The world does not rotate around your personal world view. You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
Ai Shun
579
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:26:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Xenuria wrote:Portraits are NOT rendered client side, they are rendered server side. Take a look at the screen shots I posted. Take a look at my current avatar. Have you tried this with other races? I know you said it affects Gallente - it was not clear if this is the case with other races as well.
Alright, I can replicate this with Gallente and Caldari. From what I can see it is a lighting effect, because if I change the angles, etc. and the light source the effect disappears. |
Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
210
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:40:00 -
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you do know what priority means, right?
As far as i can see, this is minor to the point of being invisible. It does not affect gameplay in any way.
But you clearly expect CCP to throw all of their resources at this and drop what they doing, just to fix this bug, because it was reported by you.
Deal wiz it. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Sarina Berghil
New Zion Judge Advocate
30
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Posted - 2012.04.04 09:52:00 -
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If it's working as intended, or it is unimportant how can it be 'fixed'?
Sometimes the bug handling is really bad. A few of my examples:
- Being told something is working as intended and the seeing a fix a few days later. - Bug being marked as 'fixed' with no apparent change at all. - Having several year old bugs replied to with a message "This was probably fixed at some point wasn't it?"
And of course my one year long attempt at reporting a game breaking bug in the old patcher.
It's ok that some bugs aren't as important as others. It's also ok that bug reports can be so bad that no fix can be made, I personally probably have made a few those. If the bug system could handle cases where a fix isn't immediately possible it would be less frustrating for users. It does seem like devs and bughunters feel pressured to handle all bugs, even if it isn't possible. But thats just the case with software bugs, some are not possible to fix right away or at all.
I know that the bughunters are unpaid and unappreciated sometimes. Poor guys. But it's not easy being a player spending a lot of time trying to report a bug either. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
57
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Posted - 2012.04.04 09:55:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFZh92MUOY
That is all. |
Xenuria
Center Haus New Eden's Industrial Alliance
493
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:37:00 -
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What upsets me is that though it "appears" to be a lighting effect it is unchanged by the angle of light in the portrait creator. I want my old avatar back. The one with jet black hair and a devious smile. The Future of GoonSwarm |
Xenuria
Center Haus New Eden's Industrial Alliance
493
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:38:00 -
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Zedrik Cayne wrote:Imagine if you will...a build that is not what is on Tranquility. But probably has much further along code for testing. Probably not even on SiSi. Where the bug is actually fixed. And where a developer will say 'fixed'.
But, you as a consumer, will not see this until say...Inferno possibly?
Your view of a 'fixed' bug is not the developers view of a 'fixed' bug.
The world does not rotate around your personal world view.
Once again shooting your mouth off without knowing all the facts.
The build this bug was supposedly fixed in was several builds ago. The Future of GoonSwarm |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1459
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:58:00 -
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If you would actually think about things, instead of just reacting to them ...
"Bug Reports Do Nothing" ... You have no evidence. You believe that because it happens to you, it's a general thing.
That's no evidence ! That's you believing the whole world operates exactly in the way that you see it operating. That's you selectively filtering out information, just because you're not really using your brain ... you're just behaving like a robot.
Get a life. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Neddy Fox
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.04.04 12:29:00 -
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I bugreported once an issue with building specific T2 ships in an upgraded Amarr OP. It was closed later with "fixed" but found out they forgot JF's :)
Repetitioned it (since people make mistakes) and the issue was resolved later.
tl;dr : Even devs can make errors, don't go running the ze forums with some generalisation, but be mature and reopen the case explaining the issue still exists.
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Grumpy Owly
584
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Posted - 2012.04.04 12:39:00 -
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Suggest Lavender bubble bath Xenuria, might help you sleep whilst CCP fix this game breaking issue for you. Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:57:00 -
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OK, so I've done some digging and for the sake of transparency here are my findings.
Firstly, the bug report was attached to a defect already. The fix for the initial problem was also the fix for the lipstick problem, and so it was attached to the defect concerning this. Now we hit an interesting situation - because your bug report was attached to a defect, when you reopened it it didn't re-enter our system. We have made quite a few changes to the bug reporting website recently and I feel like this might be because of one of these changes. Bugs on the bug reporting website making bugs not show up, how meta...
So, thanks for uncovering that there is an issue with the way our site handles bugs (even if that was in no way your initial intent), and as far as the issue you have reported goes - the team responsible will assess if it is a problem, and if they establish that it is, prioritise the fix as fits their schedule and goals.
For the others who are upset about bug reporting, please understand that we can't get it right 100% of the time. Our staff and our wonderful volunteers work very hard to process the bug reports effectively. Some slip through the cracks and for that we can only apologise and ask you to please try again. CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
101
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Posted - 2012.04.04 14:04:00 -
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Priority 4, cosmetic.
Xenuria is ugly. |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
642
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Posted - 2012.04.04 14:14:00 -
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I fixed the bug with the lipstick, and then I e-mailed some people to find out who would deal with the hair issue. Then I showed one of the character artists the issue on my computer and he took a better look at it, found what the issue was and we created a defect on it, using your screenshots. The defect is still open, but as of now it's set to be fixed for Inferno (but it might change if the technical artist runs out of time).
So please don't say bugreports do nothing, that just hurts my feelings CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
156
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Posted - 2012.04.04 14:30:00 -
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Got ourselves some first world problems here. **** is real. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
27
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:00:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:So please don't say bugreports do nothing, that just hurts my feelings The evidence seems to indicate that it was not the bug reports that caused your action, but this forum rant. If it quacks like a duck...
MDD
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Steelshine
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:01:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ScG8kUqrY |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
153
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:06:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP karkur wrote:So please don't say bugreports do nothing, that just hurts my feelings The evidence seems to indicate that it was not the bug reports that caused your action, but this forum rant. If it quacks like a duck... MDD
Actually the action karkur describes had been taken far in advance of the forum thread. CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
645
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:14:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP karkur wrote:So please don't say bugreports do nothing, that just hurts my feelings The evidence seems to indicate that it was not the bug reports that caused your action, but this forum rant. If it quacks like a duck... MDD Well, if they indicate that then either they are just bad evidence, or the person that is interpreting them is just not doing a good job. The lipstick issue was fixed February 2nd (and probably went out with Crucible 1.5), and the defect on the hair issue was created a few days later. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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