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Aalana
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:45:00 -
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A REAL nebula... vs. a nebula in EVE...
This makes me sad. CCP Please fix. :-)
And no you can't have my stuff.
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baltec1
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:48:00 -
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Probably because alot of peoples computers would eat themselves.
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Ghost hunter
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:49:00 -
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It's scheduled for the next phase of the Trinity project. May not look exact, but the rest of the universe is getting upgraded in terms of graphics.
Hello, delicious new mission looks. ______
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Gojyu
Ever Flow Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:49:00 -
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That looks horrible. You know nasa routinely photoshops their images to add in colour right?
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Finnroth
Caldari The Crimson Fraternity
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:50:00 -
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I can only speak for myself, but this much color would get me mad and my eyes blind - might look nice for the first look, but in terms of comfortability it's a pain in the ass imo.

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Aalana
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu That looks horrible. You know nasa routinely photoshops their images to add in colour right?
Open the REAL nebula link... u fail. :-)))
But, srsly not everyone agrees on art, so I accept your opinion that nature (or a colorized version of it) isn't very pretty. It doesn't change the fact that you're wrong though.
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Zycorax II
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:02:00 -
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Because; CCP > Nature
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DreadedHunter
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:04:00 -
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TBH I prefer the CCP piccie.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 30/10/2008 21:08:11 It would be much better if the backgrounds (and the bloody awful deadspace nebulae) were LESS bright!
As it is, they make it difficult at times to see whether a module is active or not.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Aalana
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: DreadedHunter TBH I prefer the CCP piccie.
And a burger is > than prime rib I suppose?
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: DreadedHunter TBH I prefer the CCP piccie.
Me too, just a bad example of a real nebula though, as in a good pic of a horrible nebula, I dont want my background a ultra high res shot of a puke colored nebula, ewwwy. And theres such a thing as too much detail
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dmian on 30/10/2008 21:23:29 First, as Ghost hunter said, the backgrounds will be updated:
Originally by: CCP Zulupark Nebula(e): Yes! You will be getting more pretty space
Nebula: We're working on making the nebulas much cooler and giving them real value dependent on where you are, we also have something about that at Fanfest
And second, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve the backgrounds. One of those things is making procedurally generated nebulae. Look here. But this has already been discussed in the forums, just do a search and you'll find several threads. Regards. ----
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Athanasios Anastasiou
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Athanasios Anastasiou on 30/10/2008 21:29:13 Like many NASA photos of outer space, your 'real' photo is artificially colored and is far from what an actual nebula looks like (at least in terms of color).
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:32:00 -
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BTW, the guy at Infinity have some interesting ideas. You should check their site. ----
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Krystal Demishy
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:35:00 -
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CCP one looks better tbh 
BTW things like these is what i'd like to see  http://www.thelightisgreen.com/Hubble-eagle-nebula-wide-field-04086y.jpg http://img1.jurko.net/wall/paper/nebula.jpg http://objsam.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nebula_rcw49_04lrg.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Triangulum.nebula.full.jpg Gallery
All in all: better backgrounds.
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tweaky boson
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:42:00 -
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IMO while pretty, EVE backgrounds are already way bright & colorful... besides not looking like space they chew up the HUD quite often (hey is that module ON?). I like rich deep dark colors mixed into the blackness of space. And although I realize systems are procedurally generated, it'd be nice if significant phenomena like nebulae would span multiple star systems with different sizes depending on how close the system is to it.
Then there's the whole issue of "feeling" 3D...
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:43:00 -
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in this thread: people who don't know what false color photography is --

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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aalana
Originally by: Gojyu That looks horrible. You know nasa routinely photoshops their images to add in colour right?
Open the REAL nebula link... u fail. :-)))
But, srsly not everyone agrees on art, so I accept your opinion that nature (or a colorized version of it) isn't very pretty. It doesn't change the fact that you're wrong though.
Wrong about what? the 'real' nebula picture would be terrible in eve. The existing skybox graphics in Eve make it a crapshoot whether you can actually see your hud, and specifically whether or not you modules are turned on. This 'real' one you linked would be much worse.
it's got nothing to do with art and there would be very few people who would actually want to play the game with that as a background.
Fail, thy name is Aalana.
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Nevenda'ar
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Posted - 2008.10.30 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Nevenda''ar on 30/10/2008 22:05:59 Nebulas only look like that from huge distances, but up close it's just a congregation of loose gas and dust particles, in some cases you woundl't be able to tell that you are inside a nebula in the first place. A typital nebula's particles are very far from one another, so far in fact that it looks nothing like a cloud if you come close to it is only because of the scale involved that the shapes become visible.
The nasa photos are a combination of multiple smaller 'eye view' shots and like a puzzle fit into a bigger picture - the nebular are so large that you wouldnt be able to possible see it from end to end with one glance ....or they are so far away from you that it will look more like another star then a nebula.
Another thing is that nebulas are rarely, if ever, have much of any color. Most of these nebulas are photographed in x-ray or infrared, or uv spectrum that human eye cant see. The only thing you will see is differences in the shades of gray to black - by the ammount of dust present. More often you wont see anything at all.
As far as i know, there are no real 'green goo' glowing nebulas - that is done by nasa and game designers to make things look pretty. but i'm not an astronomer, maybe there are some nebular that reflect starlight in some weird way and have some color because of that, or have heat from radioactivity or friction and 'glow' in infrared or gamma spetrum...
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.30 22:18:00 -
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in that image i can see a cormorant, an avatar, and a gallente star gate. ---------
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.10.30 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dmian on 30/10/2008 22:45:24
Originally by: Wikipedia Many nebulae form from the gravitational collapse of gas in the interstellar medium or ISM. As the material collapses under its own weight, massive stars may form in the center, and their ultraviolet radiation ionises the surrounding gas, making it visible at optical wavelengths. An example of this type of nebula is the Rosette Nebula or the Pelican Nebula. The size of these nebulae, known as HII regions, varies depending on the size of the original cloud of gas, and the number of stars formed can vary too.
You can see some nebulae with the naked eye. Those are called HII regions, or emission nebula.
Originally by: Wikipedia The nebula's color depends on its chemical composition and degree of ionization. Due to the prevalence of hydrogen in interstellar gas, and its relatively low energy of ionization, many emission nebulae appear red due to the strong emissions of the Balmer series. If more energy is available, other elements will be ionized and green and blue nebulae become possible. By examining the spectra of nebulae, astronomers deduce their chemical content. Most emission nebulae are about 90% hydrogen, with the remainder helium, oxygen, nitrogen, and other elements.
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baltec1
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker in that image i can see a cormorant, an avatar, and a gallente star gate.
I also spotted a melted punisher and a fish.
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:10:00 -
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I wish EVE had LESS nebula's.. as in, Hardly any at all. Space should be cold, hard, and BLACK.
If 4500 of the 5000 systems where like this, the existing in-game nebula's would be wayyyy more awesome and appreciated when you did find a system with one of them.
My favorite systems in EVE are the DARK, black with a dark blue or green nebula. I hate the stupid pink systems that look like a sunrise over the ocean. Its stupid and 9/10 constellations are way too damn bright and look like a 4 year old's Water Color Painting. __________________________________________________________
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:19:00 -
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The real nebula you reference doesn't look like that-- It's a composite image of different wavelengths of light.
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 30/10/2008 21:08:11 It would be much better if the backgrounds (and the bloody awful deadspace nebulae) were LESS bright!
As it is, they make it difficult at times to see whether a module is active or not.
True, I got sick of it and set EVE in widescreen. Lost some screenage but oh well.
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Leon vanUber
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:53:00 -
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with that background in a system you wouldnt see ****  It's nothing personal. I just want your stuff, and more importantly the fun of the fight. |

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.31 01:50:00 -
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They will be updated in the future as part of Trinity. Just like the rest of the graphics. They just haven't gotten to them yet. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Munio Veritas
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu That looks horrible. You know nasa routinely photoshops their images to add in colour right?
Dude, it's called false colour, and it's done using accurate methods based on what colour light the sources give off.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aalana
Originally by: Gojyu That looks horrible. You know nasa routinely photoshops their images to add in colour right?
Open the REAL nebula link... u fail. :-)))
But, srsly not everyone agrees on art, so I accept your opinion that nature (or a colorized version of it) isn't very pretty. It doesn't change the fact that you're wrong though.
NASA images are black and white for optimum contrast. All color seen in images has been added later for specific effect, in some cases to highlight detail, in others to identify specific compounds. Real nebulae clouds are as colorless as the clouds you see overhead.
tbqh, I'd just as soon have pure black space and stars as opposed to perpetual fog. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council
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Posted - 2008.10.31 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 30/10/2008 21:08:11 It would be much better if the backgrounds (and the bloody awful deadspace nebulae) were LESS bright!
As it is, they make it difficult at times to see whether a module is active or not.
and the mission areas wth the huge f'ing gas clouds of huge destroyed debris of a station also slow my computer down more than fleet battles, seriously
like the Last room of Massive attack (serpentis at least)
its so irritating, i mean, serisouly, why do the rats have ot hide in debris fields
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
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