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Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3241	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:05:00 - [31] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: Sentinel Smith wrote: Ptraci wrote: Kiandoshia wrote: I am not really impressed.. Going by these poasts, those are not permanent bans =/ You missed the bit where the botters log back in to wallets with iskies in the negative billions. Oh and have you ever tried to SELL something when your wallet is empty? The game code deducts the broker fee/taxes FIRST before crediting your account. So if you have zero isk and sell that 10M isk item, you won't be able to sell it because you can't afford the taxes/fees. Now imagine if you have -18 billion... Likewise with Contracts. Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet. Move or Upgrade clones.. etc.. Really? You can't station trade? That would mean the only way to fix a negative wallet is by shooting bounties or something. In that case the account is as good as banned. It's practically useless. Eh, not really. You can fly a ship to a safespot with an alt, eject it, then fly the main and board. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Sirinda Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire 65	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:08:00 - [32] - Quote Thanks for making my day. And I've just been awake for like 90 minutes.
Jonah Gravenstein 106	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:10:00 - [33] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: Really? You can't station trade? That would mean the only way to fix a negative wallet is by shooting bounties or something. In that case the account is as good as banned. It's practically useless. Working as intended, if someone is botting and ends up with a short term ban, negative wallet and a useless account then in my eyes it's all good, CCP and the general population don't want players who automate their gameplay, they ruin it for the people who are actually at their computer playing the game. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
gfldex 448	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:17:00 - [34] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. With infinite money supply, gaining money has to be boring or the money will be worth next to nothing. CCP Sreegs-á - biggest griefer in EVE!
Joran Dravius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:19:00 - [35] - Quote Virgil Travis wrote: I just thought I'd share this with those of you who haven't caught the other thread showing our appreciation for the new wave of unholy rage against the parasitic scum that have infested EVE for so very long. After the recent bannings for botting and RMT, The Nosy Gamer has been posting some of the tears from the little scum buckets using botting software and finding Sreeg and Stillman's team sending them packing with account bans. Enjoy Just for a little preview, I found this one particularly funny Quote: godless: banned 2 accounts. 1 only macroing. I am switching to another game after 7 years playing it. This game is for ******* ccp's friends. I don't have a public IP so it's kinda weird they banned me 2 accounts. Tears are always extra salty and delicious when they come from cheaters. Thanks for the laugh.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 499	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:20:00 - [36] - Quote Henry Haphorn wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. So is the gameplay of WoW, Guild Wars, and every MMO out there. All this means is that whenever the bots get persistent, we get persistent in killing them. At least here in Eve Online we get to kill our targets without needing their consent. This relying on stupidly boring grinding is what is making the whole MMO genre to slowly lose popularity. I never liked Korean super grinders but even the Western MMOs can be quite bad at it. Where's the feeling of "epicness" when all you do 90% of the time is farming boar intestines for some faceless NPC? I mean, you read a Tolkien book (or a Sci Fi magazine to stay in theme) where you see those Shiny Stainless Heroes hopping from epic deed to epic deed. You get sold the epic MMO title and then all you get is "Apprentice Wooden Sword", some rags and go to kill boars which WILL give you the required experience to kill those badass level 9000 dragons later. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Gevlin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 131	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:42:00 - [37] - Quote Yes sweet sweet Botting tears.... thank you for pointing to the Noisy Gamer post it was enjoyable read I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3243	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:55:00 - [38] - Quote gfldex wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. With infinite money supply, gaining money has to be boring or the money will be worth next to nothing. No it doesn't. It just has to be difficult and time-consuming. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
malaire 331	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:00:00 - [39] - Quote Sentinel Smith wrote: Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet. I'm not sure if that is intentional or not. I've tried to station trade few times with players who had negative wallet - once it failed but on other occasions it has worked. (I havn't tried this recently so I don't know how it works currently.) EDIT: And the reason for those trades: They had bought PLEX from CCP to get rid of negative wallet, but could not sell PLEX on market - so they wanted to station-trade the PLEX. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else
Virgil Travis GWA Corp 64	Posted - 2012.04.04 11:00:00 - [40] - Quote I think this is a good start to the Summer of Inferno, here's to many more botters tears. Roses are red. Bacon is also red. Poems are hard. Bacon.
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 284	Posted - 2012.04.04 13:19:00 - [41] - Quote malaire wrote: Sentinel Smith wrote: Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet. I'm not sure if that is intentional or not. I've tried to station trade few times with players who had negative wallet - once it failed but on other occasions it has worked. (I havn't tried this recently so I don't know how it works currently.) EDIT: And the reason for those trades: They had bought PLEX from CCP to get rid of negative wallet, but could not sell PLEX on market - so they wanted to station-trade the PLEX. Sounds like a recipe for a potential trade scam. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3642	Posted - 2012.04.04 13:51:00 - [42] - Quote not sure whats more delicous? bot tears or innocent victims tears. I say bot tears for the quality of tears. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Ugly Eric Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate 0	Posted - 2012.04.04 13:58:00 - [43] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. This! I myself have been funding my 0.0 PvP life for quite a long time with buying plexes. I am terrible at eve PvE, beacause it really is boring as hell. Same problem with oh'so many other MMO's. I also suck at PvP so much, I dont get my iskies from there. I only wish, some day the PvE content of EVE would be so interesting, that I actually could be arsed to do it. At this time having 4 accounts and 7 characters bound to pvp is relly heavy for my RL wallet :p And buying those plexes from CCP ofc.
Steel Wraith 4	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:10:00 - [44] - Quote I love the continued shock at having their accounts "that weren't even botting" also banned. One of them even renamed Eve Pilot to Notepad. I can't believe that didn't work!
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 577	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:35:00 - [45] - Quote oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: lol i love this one. Botting is over and now i have no gameplay? Quote: even though I have been with EVE since 1994... I find this impressive, he must have been in reynirs and hilmars bedrooms when they where planning everything. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Momoyo Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension 21	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:43:00 - [46] - Quote Ciar Meara wrote: oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: lol i love this one. Botting is over and now i have no gameplay? Quote: even though I have been with EVE since 1994... I find this impressive, he must have been in reynirs and hilmars bedrooms when they where planning everything. LOL I mean the PVE in eve isn't THAT bad. It just has to be done in groups. Solo PVE is boring as hell but doing missions or incursions with a bunch of corp mates on comms is generally entertaining since it distracts you from the tedium of what your doing. Maybe PVE will get a workover this winter.
Subdolus Venator State War Academy Caldari State 21	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:44:00 - [47] - Quote Henry Haphorn wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. So is the gameplay of WoW, Guild Wars, and every MMO out there. All this means is that whenever the bots get persistent, we get persistent in killing them. At least here in Eve Online we get to kill our targets without needing their consent. At least in EVE, you can kill them. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Bane Necran 246	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:48:00 - [48] - Quote oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: lol i love this one. Botting is over and now i have no gameplay? Quote: Now, without botting I have no other way to make isk and get plexes for all accounts even for my main. Someone should suggest he try sitting at the computer and actually playing the game himself. If all you're doing is botting, and using botting income to fund more bots, then the only one who really stops playing the game is the bots, not the players who turn them on in the morning, Good riddance to bad trash. And nice work, CCP. Keep the heads rolling and i may start mining again.
Subdolus Venator State War Academy Caldari State 21	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:49:00 - [49] - Quote Danfen Fenix wrote: Ptraci wrote: Kiandoshia wrote: I am not really impressed.. Going by these poasts, those are not permanent bans =/ You missed the bit where the botters log back in to wallets with iskies in the negative billions. Oh and have you ever tried to SELL something when your wallet is empty? The game code deducts the broker fee/taxes FIRST before crediting your account. So if you have zero isk and sell that 10M isk item, you won't be able to sell it because you can't afford the taxes/fees. Now imagine if you have -18 billion... So they're actually shut out from mining ? Lmao Well, there are probably legitimate ways to mine and grind your way up out of the hole* - but none of them look like anything even remotely resembling fun. In real effect, the accounts are dead unless they PLEX like mad on an Alt account *(Off the top of my head: Mine in an Alt- fleet, alts collect/refine/sell ore, gift back part of the proceeds. Definately sub-optimal) EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Zowie Powers Hole in the wall 69	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:20:00 - [50] - Quote This is good news indeed.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1387	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:20:00 - [51] - Quote This topic make me smile.
Spy 21 Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage 20	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:24:00 - [52] - Quote Good work to CCP. The mentality of these guys would be classified as insane if it weren't the same old entitlement mentality that seems to be prevalent everywhere these days. Makes me wanna throw up all over their ugly faces hehehahahahhaha... So what's up with only the 2 week ban... seems to me with as difficult as it appears to catch these losers the least would be a permanent ban for life... and If I could think of something more severe that would be legal, I would suggest that also. CCP does know that when these turds come back and get their characters unscrewed they will simply go back to the same activity right? S The proper use of dual monitors with the eve client. http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2821/img0275jr.jpg
Ravan Hekki Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow 16	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:40:00 - [53] - Quote Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 813	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:47:00 - [54] - Quote Given that many of the botters will have been using their ISK to buy PLEX to fund their botting accounts, it will be interesting to see the effect that this has on PLEX prices. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 374	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:49:00 - [55] - Quote Quote: desi0103a: No you are not allone i lost at this moment all my 11 acc that are not funny now i think the bot is not safe ;( no you arent safe Ravan Hekki wrote: Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears. should be a sig lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS
Rashmika Clavain Revelation Space 5	Posted - 2012.04.04 15:52:00 - [56] - Quote Potamus Jenkins wrote: Quote: I don't have a public IP so it's kinda weird they banned me 2 accounts. i dont think he has a solid understanding of the interwebz Hahah this. I don't have a public IP on a public network. Uhuh!
Karl Planck 158	Posted - 2012.04.04 16:10:00 - [57] - Quote Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following... Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. Point has been made a thousand times in other threads. Two things to consider. 1) The fact that you have to grind is part what makes taking other peoples stuff so rewarding. If pve was the **** in this game, then who would really case about inflicting losses? 2) Most important, it wouldn't matter if the game had the most engaging awesome PvE in all of gaming history, people would bot it. Lots of reasons but the result would be the same. Look at every other multiplayer game on a pc, any FPS, RTS, MMO. They all having botting problems. Ppl like to cheat =P If you don't like it, you should go and ride your Emo high-horse all the way back to WoW.
Bane Necran 246	Posted - 2012.04.04 16:15:00 - [58] - Quote Karl Planck wrote: Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following... Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. Point has been made a thousand times in other threads. Another thing to consider is that the big reason mining has such a poor isk/hour ratio is because of the botters. To hear them saying the reason they have to bot is because of problems they themselves created is amusing, to say the least.
Nalia White Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2012.04.04 16:18:00 - [59] - Quote good thread. my favourite: Quote: Gregar: I have yet to be banned and have been using the BOT on 2 accounts - I think I might have got lucky though as I stopped playing for about a month when everyone was getting banned and I had a day off when the next lot of people started getting banned... insert happy smiley here EDIT - Both accounts just got banned.. XD
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1387	Posted - 2012.04.04 16:26:00 - [60] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: Karl Planck wrote: Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following... Tarsus Zateki wrote: While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away. Point has been made a thousand times in other threads. Another thing to consider is that the big reason mining has such a poor isk/hour ratio is because of the botters. To hear them saying the reason they have to bot is because of problems they themselves created is amusing, to say the least. I have noticed that simple modules, basic crap dropped by rats, actually have normal prices. Usually the only way to get ISK from them was to reprocess, like everything you try to sell is 1000 percent below regional average. Now a module that is worth say 20000 ISK actually sells for that give or take a few thousands. All we need is a scarlet letter program to put the cherry on the cake.

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