godless: banned 2 accounts. 1 only macroing.
I am switching to another game after 7 years playing it. This game is for ******* ccp's friends. I don't have a public IP so it's kinda weird they banned me 2 accounts.

I don't have a public IP so it's kinda weird they banned me 2 accounts.

Having a game where a lot of people need to play multiple instances of the game just to get enough stimulation to enjoy it is getting close to being too much.

When people need to bot in a game just to enjoy it? They needed to find a new game a LONG time ago...

Having a game where a lot of people need to play multiple instances of the game just to get enough stimulation to enjoy it is getting close to being too much.

When people need to bot in a game just to enjoy it? They needed to find a new game a LONG time ago...

rider23: I was botting 20hrs/day, on 4 accounts, all banned (+1 extra!) for 2 weeks. 2 remain. Now, without botting I have no other way to make isk and get plexes for all accounts even for my main. So there is no way to play for FREE. FREE? Hmm, seems that CCP have problems with their funding to support company, servers, etc.

**** them I say (sorry, but I had to say that) and I finally understood that I have no true need to play their game (or are they who play with us?),even though I have been with EVE since 1994...

So, I will let them eat my s**t, and on my 2 remaining unblocked accounts I have started the process to return all characters to the virtual biomass, where they virtually came from. Subscriptions already canceled.

It was one of the best games I've played but now I regret for the real money and the effort I have spent to this game. All the dedication I've given to this game could be a type of mental slavery. And I do believe that it is not worth investing money to any game unless we learn something from it. I have only learned a lot of useless crap for this game.

lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

I'm sure he learned so much from just setting up his bot each day. Cretin.

fartovii: In general, I cannot understand the logic of CCP. The fight with bots? So bots, in my opinion, about 20% of active accounts in Eve. And what's the point in this "fight"?

While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

17 March:

Gregar: I have yet to be banned and have been using the BOT on 2 accounts - I think I might have got lucky though as I stopped playing for about a month when everyone was getting banned and I had a day off when the next lot of people started getting banned...

EDIT - Both accounts just got banned..

I am not really impressed.. Going by these poasts, those are not permanent bans =/

You missed the bit where the botters log back in to wallets with iskies in the negative billions. Oh and have you ever tried to SELL something when your wallet is empty? The game code deducts the broker fee/taxes FIRST before crediting your account. So if you have zero isk and sell that 10M isk item, you won't be able to sell it because you can't afford the taxes/fees. Now imagine if you have -18 billion...

You missed the bit where the botters log back in to wallets with iskies in the negative billions. Oh and have you ever tried to SELL something when your wallet is empty? The game code deducts the broker fee/taxes FIRST before crediting your account. So if you have zero isk and sell that 10M isk item, you won't be able to sell it because you can't afford the taxes/fees. Now imagine if you have -18 billion...

Likewise with Contracts.
Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet.
Move or Upgrade clones.. etc..

here's what I understood from those quoted posts:

"OMFG THEY ARE BANNING ME FOR CHEATING! THE ******* LOSERS!"

Really? You can't station trade?

That would mean the only way to fix a negative wallet is by shooting bounties or something. In that case the account is as good as banned. It's practically useless.

Really? You can't station trade?

That would mean the only way to fix a negative wallet is by shooting bounties or something. In that case the account is as good as banned. It's practically useless.

The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

I just thought I'd share this with those of you who haven't caught the other thread showing our appreciation for the new wave of unholy rage against the parasitic scum that have infested EVE for so very long.

After the recent bannings for botting and RMT, The Nosy Gamer has been posting some of the tears from the little scum buckets using botting software and finding Sreeg and Stillman's team sending them packing with account bans.

Enjoy

Just for a little preview, I found this one particularly funny

So is the gameplay of WoW, Guild Wars, and every MMO out there. All this means is that whenever the bots get persistent, we get persistent in killing them. At least here in Eve Online we get to kill our targets without needing their consent.

With infinite money supply, gaining money has to be boring or the money will be worth next to nothing.

Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet.

I'm not sure if that is intentional or not.

I've tried to station trade few times with players who had negative wallet - once it failed but on other occasions it has worked. (I havn't tried this recently so I don't know how it works currently.)

EDIT: And the reason for those trades: They had bought PLEX from CCP to get rid of negative wallet, but could not sell PLEX on market - so they wanted to station-trade the PLEX.

While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

I find this impressive, he must have been in reynirs and hilmars bedrooms when they where planning everything.

So is the gameplay of WoW, Guild Wars, and every MMO out there. All this means is that whenever the bots get persistent, we get persistent in killing them. At least here in Eve Online we get to kill our targets without needing their consent.

lol i love this one.
Botting is over and now i have no gameplay?

So they're actually shut out from mining ?

Lmao

desi0103a: No you are not allone i lost at this moment all my 11 acc that are not funny now i think the bot is not safe ;(

Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears.

i dont think he has a solid understanding of the interwebz

While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

Ahh I am going to have to go through this later. Good times. In regard to the following...




Point has been made a thousand times in other threads.

Gregar: I have yet to be banned and have been using the BOT on 2 accounts - I think I might have got lucky though as I stopped playing for about a month when everyone was getting banned and I had a day off when the next lot of people started getting banned... *insert happy smiley here*

EDIT - Both accounts just got banned..

Another thing to consider is that the big reason mining has such a poor isk/hour ratio is because of the botters.

To hear them saying the reason they have to bot is because of problems they themselves created is amusing, to say the least.

Likewise with Contracts.
Also you can't station trade with a negative wallet.
Move or Upgrade clones.. etc..

I have noticed that simple modules, basic crap dropped by rats, actually have normal prices.

I have been noticing a general price increase across several module groups, but I'm not sure if it is related to bot bannings or a general long-term trend. It would be EXCELLENT to see some numbers on module drops before and after mass bannings of bots, as well as county collection, etc.

Yeah, this may mean that some meta-4 stuff that we take for granted may be a luxury in the future, but you know what? That's okay. I'm totally cool with that.

Additionally, with bots removed from the game, I expect PLEX demand to drop somewhat. That is good for those of us who remember PLEX for 150m a piece, long ago...

I have been noticing a general price increase across several module groups, but I'm not sure if it is related to bot bannings or a general long-term trend. It would be EXCELLENT to see some numbers on module drops before and after mass bannings of bots, as well as county collection, etc.

Most of that is because the lower-priced modules are being bought up and reprocessed into minerals. Especially modules which have a lot of Nocx/Zyd as the 50-75% jump in price in a short time put most of those sell orders below their reproc value.

You know what would make that even more painful? A 0.01isk charge to jettison a can.

Hahah this. I don't have a public IP on a public network.

Uhuh!

Having a game where a lot of people need to play multiple instances of the game just to get enough stimulation to enjoy it is getting close to being too much.

When people need to bot in a game just to enjoy it? They needed to find a new game a LONG time ago...

I think those actually caught botting should receive perma bans. Leave the two week stuff for that committed the smaller crimes, whatever they may be.

While I appreciate everything Stoffer and his team are doing they have an uphill battle. The fundamental problem is that Eve's PvE game play is boring as hell, which will always lead to people finding ways to automate the boring parts away.

Sreegs is Khorne now.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

You really think CCP can afford a 20% hit in subscriptions?

We can has thier stuffs?

Why yes! Yes we can

CCP is NOT taking a 20% subscriber hit. The botters live off Plex....people are buying and hoarding more Plex than are used already, so CCP is making their money regardless.

not sure whats more delicous? bot tears or innocent victims tears. I say bot tears for the quality of tears.

I think both of you are missing the fact that this "20%" figure is something made up on the spot by a botter trying to defend his own actions, with no evidence to support it.

20% is a lot. It's 1-in-5. Do you really think 1-in-5 people who play this game bot? If there are more than 4 people in your corp, I'd be concerned if I were you...

Your not looking at it correctly....

Perhaps the actual number of people might be 5%. But most botters I've seen or heard of don't limit themselves to one bot. They have 5 or 10, or 50. So you can take that 5%, which is probably low and multiple it by 10 accounts on average.....

Is CCP losing some money in the process of banning accounts? Probably, yeah. I'm sure it's nowhere near 20% though. I think the main point in botting to begin with is to purchase PLEXes, which eliminates some of CCP's income anyway. In total, I bet it's costing them more in man-hours to employ Team Security than they're losing in lost subscription fees.

Highlighted the appropriate point.

PLEX is a Zero Sum game as far as CCP is concerned. For every PLEX a botter buys to continue botting, a player forked over cash for. Whether or not they did a 2/4/6 PLEX doesn't matter, those are the buying options given to all subscribers. The only difference to CCP is the name of the person footing the bill for playing the game that month. CCP is losing no revenue due to the PLEX system, and IMHO is why PLEX is genius.

However, PLEXing is supposed to be a reward for players with the skills, time, or ingenuity to make enough fake money to pay another player ISK for their real world cash. I would love to have all the 'free' stuff too, but somehow working on enough ISK to buy that new T2 BS makes it all the more special, both to me and to the bastard who is going to blow it up.